Herein lies the mystery... Ive seen this, as well as near identical genealogies which show that Thomas Piner's wife was not Elizabeth Swindler daugher of John Swindler of this line but rather Elizabeth Swindler daughter of Germanna colonist Hannah Weaver and John Swindle (half English colonial, half Germanna colonial). Thomas Piner lived and married in Culpeper. John and Hannah and their daughter Elizabeth Swindle also lived in Culpeper. John Swindler and his daughter Elizabeth lived in Fairfax... not TOO far (a little over an hour by car today, so, a few days ride by horse). The Swindlers did move from Fairfax, Ohio, Rappahanock, and even Culpeper, so it is possible. Given how often names were spelled variantly, and given that secondary sources indicating it was E. Swindle of Culpeper far outnumber the sources indicating E. Swinder of Fairfax... I kind of wonder if she may be the proper one. Also, there is no record of the Germanna Elizabeth Swindle ever marrying. There's lots of documentation on the other Swindle kids marrying off, but Elizabeth sort of drops off the map in the Germanna records I've seen. The dates are pretty well matched too. Thomas Piner lived 1773-1829. Elizabeth Swindle lived 1774 to an unknown date. Thomas and Elizabeth married 22 Dec 1791. Also, consider that the family moved westward to Kentucky, and I've turned up the following... They had Children: Presley, about 1794; Richardson Owen, 1806; John Evans, 1809; Margaret M., unknown; James G., unknown; William C., unknown; Thomas A., unknown. 1820 census shows a Thomas Piner in Boone County, KY, as head of a household with 3 males under 10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 16-18, 2 males 18-25, 1 male 45+, 2 females 45+, and one male slave under 14 years old. It also indicates that 4 males in the home were in the agriculture business. The 1830 census no longer has Thomas Piner, but has an Elizabeth Piner who was probably his widow (note the similar family make-up: 3 males under 5, 2 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 2 females 20-30, 1 female 50-60, 1 female 80-90, 1 males slave 24-36; 1 person deaf & dumb over age 25). Related Germanna families ended up in the same area of Boone KY and show up on the same census pages. The genealogy below doesnt match. It lists Thomas Piner as being born 1771, but dying in 1811. It lists Elizabeth Swindler as 1771-1808. This would have Elizabeth dead a year before her 3rd son's birth. I can think of a few possibilities... 1) The Thomas Piner I descend from married Elizabeth Swindle, daughter of Hannah Weaver and John Swindle, and the court record just added an R to her name. The Elizabeth Swindler in the genealogy either married a different Thomas Piner or else the genealogies just somehow got confused by the single marriage record I've heard of, which indicates a Thomas Piner and Elizabeth Swindler (with R) marrying on 22 Dec. 1791 in Culpeper. This is my preferred theory at the moment 2) The genealogy below is correct and Thomas Piner married Elizabeth Swindler (who at some point moved from Fairfax to Culpeper - seems some of her family did, so that's not absurd), but the death dates given are wrong or else the census data indicating a longer life and my records of more children are wrong. I'd need to find more information to see if this couple had children and could be my ancestors 3) The Thomas Piner and Elizabeth Swindler in the genealogy below are two different people who were born with similar names around the similar time and ended up marrying at some point, making for a two very similar couples in one town... somewhat odd. A few other interpretations as well, of course. I think the key here is to find out more about the Elizabeth Swindle from Culpeper and the Elizabeth Swindler from Fairfax. Thomas Piner (from Culpeper) was the son of an indentured servant (probably English) who was living in Culpeper at least as of 1764. Thomas was born 1773. Elizabeth Swindle descended from a long line of Swindle, Swindell, etc ancestors who were indentured servants in Jamestown who migrated towards the Culpeper frontier and married into at least 2 Germanna families (the Crees/Greys and Weavers/Webers). The Elizabeth Swindler below was daughter of a John Swindler (doesnt help the confusion much that both Elizabeths had fathers named John). Elizabeth was born in the pretty old and ritzy town of Fairfax, a far cry from the frontier farmland of Culpeper. John Swindler came from New Jersey, and I don't know anything much else about him. It seems to me like the Fairfax Swinders could be from somewhat higher social classes than the frontier farmers the Swindles and Piners... which may not have had an impact on which of the two Thomas was more likely to have met and married. Hard to say without finding out more on all three (four?) individials. Fortunately I am in driving distance of Fairfax and Culpeper. Anyone know how I might go about looking for old records in these areas? On 16-Jul-2003 RRG410@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > I previously posted information that my husband's line (GAUNT/CORBIN) shows > a > SWINDLER/PINER connection. > > Here's the information that I have: > > Descendants of Henry Swindler > > 1 Henry Swindler > .. +Mary Clayton > ....... 2 John Swindler 1747 - 1803 b: Abt. 1747 in Cranbury, NJ > d: Abt. 1803 in Culpeper Co, VA > ........... +Chloe Turley 1747 - 1804 b: Abt. 1747 in Fairfax Co., > Virginia m: Abt. 1768 in Frederick Co., VA d: Aft. 1804 in > Culpeper Co, VA > ................ 3 [2] Henry Boston Swindler 1769 - 1850 b: October > 22, 1769 in Fairfax Co., Virginia d: Bef. April 27, > 1850 in > Rappahannock Co., VA > .................... +Ellen Gaunt 1795 - 1877 b: 1795 in Culpeper > Co., VA Father: Andrew Gaunt Mother: Catherine Corbin d: > 1877 in Rappahannock Co., VA > .......................... 4 Eliza C. Swindler 1829 - b: Abt. 1829 in > Rappahannock Co., VA > .............................. +Horace N. Compton 1824 - b: Abt. 1824 > in Virginia m: November 16, 1854 in Rappahannock Co., VA > > .......................... 4 Albert Clayton Swindler 1831 - 1899 b: > September 04, 1831 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: A. C. > Swindler d: > 1899 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: A. C. Swindler > .............................. +Margaret Ann Burke 1832 - b: Bet. 1832 > - 1834 in Virginia m: November 25, 1858 in Rappahannock Co., VA > > .......................... 4 Aylette Elliott Swindler 1833 - 1894 b: > August 26, 1833 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: Elliott > d: > September 29, 1894 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: Elliott > .............................. +Mary A. Hamrick 1838 - 1915 b: > November 30, 1838 in Virginia m: February 13, 1855 in Rappahannock Co., VA > aka: Hambrick d: November 27, 1915 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: > Hambrick > .......................... 4 Mary Ann Swindler 1835 - b: 1835 in > Rappahannock Co., VA > .............................. +Major Dillard Racer 1830 - b: Abt. > 1830 m: September 14, 1854 in Rappahannock Co., VA Father: John Racer > Mother: Martha Patsey Sims > .......................... 4 [1] James William Swindler 1827 - 1905 b: > April 14, 1827 in Culpeper Co, VA aka: Swinler d: > February > 23, 1905 in Greene Co., Ohio aka: Swinler > .............................. +Lucy Catherine Johnson 1826 - 1882 b: > Abt. 1826 in Rappahannock Co., VA m: June 19, 1845 in Rappahannock Co., VA > d: July 08, 1882 in Greene Co., Ohio > .......................... *2nd Wife of [1] James William Swindler: > > .............................. +Sarah Anne Shane 1850 - 1892 b: Abt. > 1850 in Greene Co., Ohio m: Abt. 1883 in Greene Co., Ohio > d: August 06, 1892 in Greene Co., Ohio > .......................... 4 Sarah Elizabeth Swindler 1836 - 1853 b: > September 29, 1836 in Rappahannock Co., VA d: August 23, > 1853 in Rappahannock Co., VA > ................ *2nd Wife of [2] Henry Boston Swindler: > > .................... +Peggy Boston m: October 26, 1796 in > Culpeper Co., VA > .......................... 4 Ruben Swindler > > .......................... 4 Henry Swindler > > .......................... 4 Lucy Swindler > > .............................. +Matthews > > .......................... 4 Henritta x Swindler > > .............................. +Benjamin x Peyton m: March 16, > 1815 > .......................... 4 Chloe Swindler 1812 - b: Abt. 1812 in > Virginia > .......................... 4 Ellen Swindler - 1850 > d: Bef. 1850 > .............................. +Henry S. Menefee 1803 - b: Abt. 1803 > in Virginia Father: Henry Menefee > .......................... 4 Maria Swindler > > .............................. +Martin Porter > > ................ 3 Chloe Swindler 1771 - b: Abt. 1771 in Fairfax Co., > Virginia > .................... +Elias Campbell m: March 10, 1796 in > Culpeper Co., VA > .......................... 4 Cassey Campbell 1813 - b: Abt. 1813 in > Madison Co., VA > .............................. +George Campbell > > ................ 3 Elizabeth Swindler 1771 - 1808 b: Abt. 1771 in > Fairfax Co., Virginia d: 1808 > .................... +Thomas Piner 1777 - 1811 b: 1777 > d: 1811 > ................ 3 Anne Swindler 1773 - b: Abt. 1773 in Fairfax Co., > Virginia > .................... +John Barger 1772 - b: Abt. 1772 in Culpeper > Co, VA m: August 03, 1793 in Culpeper Co., VA > ................ 3 John Swindler 1776 - b: Abt. 1776 in Botetourt > Co., VA > .................... +Rachael Fryer 1776 - 1832 b: 1776 > d: 1832 > ................ 3 Jesse Swindler 1782 - b: Abt. 1782 in Culpeper Co, > VA > .................... +Ammy Lewis > ................ 3 [3] James T. Swindler 1786 - 1848 b: February 10, > 1786 in Culpeper Co, VA d: 1848 > .................... +Caty M. Estey 1787 - 1849 b: 1787 > d: 1849 > ................ *2nd Wife of [3] James T. Swindler: > > .................... +Eliza C. Vincent 1786 - 1802 b: 1786 > d: 1802 > ................ *3rd Wife of [3] James T. Swindler: > > .................... +Lucy J. Mathews 1786 - 1802 b: 1786 > d: 1802 > ................ 3 Clayton T. Swindler 1792 - 1823 b: Abt. 1792 in > Culpeper Co, VA d: 1823 > .................... +Sarah Ann Bryant 1786 - 1822 b: 1786 > d: 1822 > ................ 3 Henritta Swindler 1790 - 1820 b: 1790 > d: 1820 > .................... +Benjamin Peyton 1768 - 1820 b: 1768 m: 1815 > in Culpeper Co., VA d: 1820 > ....... 2 Henry Swindler > ....... 2 Samuel Swindler > ....... 2 Elisha Swindler > ....... 2 Joseph Swindler > ....... 2 Mary Swindler > ....... 2 David Swindler > ....... 2 Jonathan Swindler > > Sources: > > Henry Swindler/Mary Clayton; > > Probate: 21 DEC 1792 Loudoun Co. VA, Will Books D&E, pp.334-5 pp.38-9 > > Rev. Frank R. Symmes, compiler, History of Old Tennent Church, > 2nd ed. (Cranbury, N.j..: George W. Burroughs, Printer, 1904), pp. > 178-181, lists subscribers. Located Monmouth County Historical Society > Library, Freehold, NJ. Author. (information given to me by another Swindler > Researcher, James Wichman) > > Henry Boston Swindler; > > Allied Families of Read, Corbin, Luttrell, and Bywaters pg 132 > date of birth > > DEEDS - Rappahannock County, Virginia > > WILL INDEX - Rappahannock County, Virginia > Henry Boston Swindler - appraised 27 Apr 1850 Book C, pp 99, 132, 271 > > Rappahannock County Historical Society >#406 Chancery: Menefee vs Swindler 1850-1877 > Henry S. Menefee & wife Ellen > Henry Swindler d. early 1850 interstate, 2 tracts of land, 180 acres & > 6 3/4 acres, Considerable personal estate to pay debts. > widow Ellen (second wife) > Children: James W., Albert G., Elliot (Aylette), Eliza, Mary, > Elizabeth, all under 21 years of age. > > Children by first wife: Ruben - Putnam Co. Va., Henry Jr.- not in Va., > Lucy Matthew's widow, Henrietta wife of Benjamin Peyton, Chloe, Ellen wife > of > Henry S. Menefee > > Children of dec'd. dau Maria who m. Martin Porter, also dead: Thomas > Porter, William Porter, Missouri Porter, Martinette Porter. > > Admin. James W. Swindler > each heir entitled to 1/13 - impossible to divide land, asks immediate > assignment of dower to widow, then sale of remainder & division of proceeds. > > Ellen Swindler/Thomas Piner; > > ID: I0652 > Name: Elizabeth Swindler > Sex: F > Birth: ABT. 1771 in Fairfax Co. VA > Reference Number: 129 > Note: > Reference "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper County, VA. > Embracing a Revised and Enlarged Edition of Dr. Philip Slaughter's > History of St Mark's Parish, by Raleeigh Travers Green (1900) page 51. > > > Father: Rev. John Swindler b: ABT. 1747 in Cranbury, NJ > Mother: Chloe Turley b: ABT. 1747 in Fairfax Co. VA > > Marriage 1 Thomas Piner b: 10 MAR 1743/44 in Culpeper Co. VA > Married: 22 DEC 1791 in Culpeper Co. VA > Note: > "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper Co. VA" Embracing a > Revised and Enlarged Edition of Dr. Philip Slaughter's History of St. > Mark's Parish by Raleigh Travers Green, 1900, p. 51. > > I have not personally verified all of these facts. > > Hopes this gives you some help, > Linda Cashen Gaunt > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are > on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Craig, >Thomas Piner (from Culpeper)was the son of an indentured servant (probably >English) who was living in Culpeper at least as of 1764. What is your source for this information? I'd like to look it up and see if I can use it as a starting place to see if there is a connection between your Thomas (and his father) to my Susanna(h) PINER. Thanks! :) Diana -- TheCalmOne@kconline.com **************************** One day I shall burst my buds of calm and *blossom* into full hysteria **************************** http://members.tripod.com/~TheCalmOne/ Craig Schenk said: > Herein lies the mystery... > > Ive seen this, as well as near identical genealogies which show that > Thomas > Piner's wife was not Elizabeth Swindler daugher of John Swindler of this > line > but rather Elizabeth Swindler daughter of Germanna colonist Hannah Weaver > and > John Swindle (half English colonial, half Germanna colonial). > > Thomas Piner lived and married in Culpeper. John and Hannah and their > daughter > Elizabeth Swindle also lived in Culpeper. John Swindler and his daughter > Elizabeth lived in Fairfax... not TOO far (a little over an hour by car > today, > so, a few days ride by horse). The Swindlers did move from Fairfax, Ohio, > Rappahanock, and even Culpeper, so it is possible. > > Given how often names were spelled variantly, and given that secondary > sources indicating it was E. Swindle of Culpeper far outnumber the sources > indicating E. Swinder of Fairfax... I kind of wonder if she may be the > proper > one. > > Also, there is no record of the Germanna Elizabeth Swindle ever marrying. > There's lots of documentation on the other Swindle kids marrying off, but > Elizabeth sort of drops off the map in the Germanna records I've seen. The > dates are pretty well matched too. Thomas Piner lived 1773-1829. Elizabeth > Swindle lived 1774 to an unknown date. Thomas and Elizabeth married 22 Dec > 1791. > > Also, consider that the family moved westward to Kentucky, and I've turned > up > the following... They had Children: Presley, about 1794; Richardson Owen, > 1806; John Evans, 1809; Margaret M., unknown; James G., unknown; William > C., > unknown; Thomas A., unknown. 1820 census shows a Thomas Piner in Boone > County, > KY, as head of a household with 3 males under 10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male > 16-18, > 2 males 18-25, 1 male 45+, 2 females 45+, and one male slave under 14 > years > old. It also indicates that 4 males in the home were in the agriculture > business. The 1830 census no longer has Thomas Piner, but has an Elizabeth > Piner who was probably his widow (note the similar family make-up: 3 males > under 5, 2 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 2 females 20-30, 1 female 50-60, 1 > female > 80-90, 1 males slave 24-36; 1 person deaf & dumb over age 25). Related > Germanna families ended up in the same area of Boone KY and show up on the > same census pages. > > The genealogy below doesnt match. It lists Thomas Piner as being born > 1771, > but dying in 1811. It lists Elizabeth Swindler as 1771-1808. This would > have > Elizabeth dead a year before her 3rd son's birth. I can think of a few > possibilities... > > 1) The Thomas Piner I descend from married Elizabeth Swindle, daughter of > Hannah Weaver and John Swindle, and the court record just added an R to > her > name. The Elizabeth Swindler in the genealogy either married a different > Thomas Piner or else the genealogies just somehow got confused by the > single > marriage record I've heard of, which indicates a Thomas Piner and > Elizabeth > Swindler (with R) marrying on 22 Dec. 1791 in Culpeper. This is my > preferred > theory at the moment > > 2) The genealogy below is correct and Thomas Piner married Elizabeth > Swindler > (who at some point moved from Fairfax to Culpeper - seems some of her > family > did, so that's not absurd), but the death dates given are wrong or else > the > census data indicating a longer life and my records of more children are > wrong. I'd need to find more information to see if this couple had > children > and could be my ancestors > > 3) The Thomas Piner and Elizabeth Swindler in the genealogy below are two > different people who were born with similar names around the similar time > and > ended up marrying at some point, making for a two very similar couples in > one > town... somewhat odd. > > A few other interpretations as well, of course. > > I think the key here is to find out more about the Elizabeth Swindle from > Culpeper and the Elizabeth Swindler from Fairfax. Thomas Piner (from > Culpeper) > was the son of an indentured servant (probably English) who was living in > Culpeper at least as of 1764. Thomas was born 1773. Elizabeth Swindle > descended > from a long line of Swindle, Swindell, etc ancestors who were indentured > servants in Jamestown who migrated towards the Culpeper frontier and > married > into at least 2 Germanna families (the Crees/Greys and Weavers/Webers). > The > Elizabeth Swindler below was daughter of a John Swindler (doesnt help the > confusion much that both Elizabeths had fathers named John). Elizabeth was > born in the pretty old and ritzy town of Fairfax, a far cry from the > frontier > farmland of Culpeper. John Swindler came from New Jersey, and I don't know > anything much else about him. It seems to me like the Fairfax Swinders > could be > from somewhat higher social classes than the frontier farmers the Swindles > and > Piners... which may not have had an impact on which of the two Thomas was > more > likely to have met and married. Hard to say without finding out more on > all > three (four?) individials. > > Fortunately I am in driving distance of Fairfax and Culpeper. Anyone know > how > I might go about looking for old records in these areas? > > > > > On 16-Jul-2003 RRG410@aol.com wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I previously posted information that my husband's line (GAUNT/CORBIN) >> shows >> a >> SWINDLER/PINER connection. >> >> Here's the information that I have: >> >> Descendants of Henry Swindler >> >> 1 Henry Swindler >> .. +Mary Clayton >> ....... 2 John Swindler 1747 - 1803 b: Abt. 1747 in Cranbury, NJ >> d: Abt. 1803 in Culpeper Co, VA >> ........... +Chloe Turley 1747 - 1804 b: Abt. 1747 in Fairfax Co., >> Virginia m: Abt. 1768 in Frederick Co., VA d: Aft. >> 1804 in >> Culpeper Co, VA >> ................ 3 [2] Henry Boston Swindler 1769 - 1850 b: >> October >> 22, 1769 in Fairfax Co., Virginia d: Bef. April 27, >> 1850 in >> Rappahannock Co., VA >> .................... +Ellen Gaunt 1795 - 1877 b: 1795 in >> Culpeper >> Co., VA Father: Andrew Gaunt Mother: Catherine Corbin >> d: >> 1877 in Rappahannock Co., VA >> .......................... 4 Eliza C. Swindler 1829 - b: Abt. 1829 >> in >> Rappahannock Co., VA >> .............................. +Horace N. Compton 1824 - b: Abt. >> 1824 >> in Virginia m: November 16, 1854 in Rappahannock Co., VA >> >> .......................... 4 Albert Clayton Swindler 1831 - 1899 b: >> September 04, 1831 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: A. C. >> Swindler d: >> 1899 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: A. C. Swindler >> .............................. +Margaret Ann Burke 1832 - b: Bet. >> 1832 >> - 1834 in Virginia m: November 25, 1858 in Rappahannock Co., VA >> >> .......................... 4 Aylette Elliott Swindler 1833 - 1894 >> b: >> August 26, 1833 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: Elliott >> d: >> September 29, 1894 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: Elliott >> .............................. +Mary A. Hamrick 1838 - 1915 b: >> November 30, 1838 in Virginia m: February 13, 1855 in Rappahannock Co., >> VA >> aka: Hambrick d: November 27, 1915 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: >> Hambrick >> .......................... 4 Mary Ann Swindler 1835 - b: 1835 in >> Rappahannock Co., VA >> .............................. +Major Dillard Racer 1830 - b: >> Abt. >> 1830 m: September 14, 1854 in Rappahannock Co., VA Father: John >> Racer >> Mother: Martha Patsey Sims >> .......................... 4 [1] James William Swindler 1827 - 1905 >> b: >> April 14, 1827 in Culpeper Co, VA aka: Swinler d: >> February >> 23, 1905 in Greene Co., Ohio aka: Swinler >> .............................. +Lucy Catherine Johnson 1826 - 1882 >> b: >> Abt. 1826 in Rappahannock Co., VA m: June 19, 1845 in Rappahannock Co., >> VA >> d: July 08, 1882 in Greene Co., Ohio >> .......................... *2nd Wife of [1] James William Swindler: >> >> .............................. +Sarah Anne Shane 1850 - 1892 b: >> Abt. >> 1850 in Greene Co., Ohio m: Abt. 1883 in Greene Co., Ohio >> d: August 06, 1892 in Greene Co., Ohio >> .......................... 4 Sarah Elizabeth Swindler 1836 - 1853 >> b: >> September 29, 1836 in Rappahannock Co., VA d: August >> 23, >> 1853 in Rappahannock Co., VA >> ................ *2nd Wife of [2] Henry Boston Swindler: >> >> .................... +Peggy Boston m: October 26, 1796 >> in >> Culpeper Co., VA >> .......................... 4 Ruben Swindler >> >> .......................... 4 Henry Swindler >> >> .......................... 4 Lucy Swindler >> >> .............................. +Matthews >> >> .......................... 4 Henritta x Swindler >> >> .............................. +Benjamin x Peyton m: March >> 16, >> 1815 >> .......................... 4 Chloe Swindler 1812 - b: Abt. 1812 in >> Virginia >> .......................... 4 Ellen Swindler - 1850 >> d: Bef. 1850 >> .............................. +Henry S. Menefee 1803 - b: Abt. >> 1803 >> in Virginia Father: Henry Menefee >> .......................... 4 Maria Swindler >> >> .............................. +Martin Porter >> >> ................ 3 Chloe Swindler 1771 - b: Abt. 1771 in Fairfax >> Co., >> Virginia >> .................... +Elias Campbell m: March 10, 1796 in >> Culpeper Co., VA >> .......................... 4 Cassey Campbell 1813 - b: Abt. 1813 in >> Madison Co., VA >> .............................. +George Campbell >> >> ................ 3 Elizabeth Swindler 1771 - 1808 b: Abt. 1771 in >> Fairfax Co., Virginia d: 1808 >> .................... +Thomas Piner 1777 - 1811 b: 1777 >> d: 1811 >> ................ 3 Anne Swindler 1773 - b: Abt. 1773 in Fairfax >> Co., >> Virginia >> .................... +John Barger 1772 - b: Abt. 1772 in >> Culpeper >> Co, VA m: August 03, 1793 in Culpeper Co., VA >> ................ 3 John Swindler 1776 - b: Abt. 1776 in >> Botetourt >> Co., VA >> .................... +Rachael Fryer 1776 - 1832 b: 1776 >> d: 1832 >> ................ 3 Jesse Swindler 1782 - b: Abt. 1782 in Culpeper >> Co, >> VA >> .................... +Ammy Lewis >> ................ 3 [3] James T. Swindler 1786 - 1848 b: February >> 10, >> 1786 in Culpeper Co, VA d: 1848 >> .................... +Caty M. Estey 1787 - 1849 b: 1787 >> d: 1849 >> ................ *2nd Wife of [3] James T. Swindler: >> >> .................... +Eliza C. Vincent 1786 - 1802 b: 1786 >> d: 1802 >> ................ *3rd Wife of [3] James T. Swindler: >> >> .................... +Lucy J. Mathews 1786 - 1802 b: 1786 >> d: 1802 >> ................ 3 Clayton T. Swindler 1792 - 1823 b: Abt. 1792 in >> Culpeper Co, VA d: 1823 >> .................... +Sarah Ann Bryant 1786 - 1822 b: 1786 >> d: 1822 >> ................ 3 Henritta Swindler 1790 - 1820 b: 1790 >> d: 1820 >> .................... +Benjamin Peyton 1768 - 1820 b: 1768 m: >> 1815 >> in Culpeper Co., VA d: 1820 >> ....... 2 Henry Swindler >> ....... 2 Samuel Swindler >> ....... 2 Elisha Swindler >> ....... 2 Joseph Swindler >> ....... 2 Mary Swindler >> ....... 2 David Swindler >> ....... 2 Jonathan Swindler >> >> Sources: >> >> Henry Swindler/Mary Clayton; >> >> Probate: 21 DEC 1792 Loudoun Co. VA, Will Books D&E, pp.334-5 pp.38-9 >> >> Rev. Frank R. Symmes, compiler, History of Old Tennent Church, >> 2nd ed. (Cranbury, N.j..: George W. Burroughs, Printer, 1904), pp. >> 178-181, lists subscribers. Located Monmouth County Historical Society >> Library, Freehold, NJ. Author. (information given to me by another >> Swindler >> Researcher, James Wichman) >> >> Henry Boston Swindler; >> >> Allied Families of Read, Corbin, Luttrell, and Bywaters pg 132 >> date of birth >> >> DEEDS - Rappahannock County, Virginia >> >> WILL INDEX - Rappahannock County, Virginia >> Henry Boston Swindler - appraised 27 Apr 1850 Book C, pp 99, 132, 271 >> >> Rappahannock County Historical Society >>#406 Chancery: Menefee vs Swindler 1850-1877 >> Henry S. Menefee & wife Ellen >> Henry Swindler d. early 1850 interstate, 2 tracts of land, 180 >> acres & >> 6 3/4 acres, Considerable personal estate to pay debts. >> widow Ellen (second wife) >> Children: James W., Albert G., Elliot (Aylette), Eliza, Mary, >> Elizabeth, all under 21 years of age. >> >> Children by first wife: Ruben - Putnam Co. Va., Henry Jr.- not in >> Va., >> Lucy Matthew's widow, Henrietta wife of Benjamin Peyton, Chloe, Ellen >> wife >> of >> Henry S. Menefee >> >> Children of dec'd. dau Maria who m. Martin Porter, also dead: >> Thomas >> Porter, William Porter, Missouri Porter, Martinette Porter. >> >> Admin. James W. Swindler >> each heir entitled to 1/13 - impossible to divide land, asks >> immediate >> assignment of dower to widow, then sale of remainder & division of >> proceeds. >> >> Ellen Swindler/Thomas Piner; >> >> ID: I0652 >> Name: Elizabeth Swindler >> Sex: F >> Birth: ABT. 1771 in Fairfax Co. VA >> Reference Number: 129 >> Note: >> Reference "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper County, VA. >> Embracing a Revised and Enlarged Edition of Dr. Philip Slaughter's >> History of St Mark's Parish, by Raleeigh Travers Green (1900) page 51. >> >> >> Father: Rev. John Swindler b: ABT. 1747 in Cranbury, NJ >> Mother: Chloe Turley b: ABT. 1747 in Fairfax Co. VA >> >> Marriage 1 Thomas Piner b: 10 MAR 1743/44 in Culpeper Co. VA >> Married: 22 DEC 1791 in Culpeper Co. VA >> Note: >> "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper Co. VA" Embracing a >> Revised and Enlarged Edition of Dr. Philip Slaughter's History of St. >> Mark's Parish by Raleigh Travers Green, 1900, p. 51. >> >> I have not personally verified all of these facts. >> >> Hopes this gives you some help, >> Linda Cashen Gaunt >> >> >> ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== >> If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send >> only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you >> are >> on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> records, go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ______________________________