I think it would be well worth your while to plug into the Germanna Colonies, you might want to search through the daily notes that John Blankenbaker publishes as he has quite a bit of info about these particular families. There Germanna Foundation site is: _www.germanna.org_ (http://www.germanna.org) and John's page is at: _www.germanna.com_ (http://www.germanna.com) Barb Price Researching: Holtzclaw/Otterbach/Fishback/Heimbach/Burnes/Hardy/Graham/Hardin....