I don't care if you or I descend from Obama or Joe Blow. What offends me is the fact that things are posted without sources or documentation and presented and accepted as fact. If someone is going to copy and paste and use other's work as their own or as fact, they shouldn't be doing genealogy. I have been doing genealogy for 30 years, and I can't tell you the amount of erroneous information that people swear is fact. PS-I have been searching someone going back to President Truman. They barely touch on it in his genealogy on the Truman Library site. I asked a question of them: Whether the date used was the date of a will or recording of the will. They couldn't answer. You would think they the reference person could check the documents presented to them by the genealogist who did the research. But I guess that brings up another question---did this person present them with the documentation? All I'm saying is BEWARE what you accept as fact. -----Original Message----- >From: "Haynes, Patricia A." <phaynes@fulbright.com> >Sent: Dec 23, 2008 5:01 PM >To: mdillow31@verizon.net, VACULPEP@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Barack Obama Descends From Eltonhead Line > >You have not offended me and you were not the one posting politics. Please look at the first e-mail I sent. It was not directed towards you. It was directed at Fern's e-mail which was responding to your first e-mail. I found all the info from your post and that of others quite interesting even if it isn't my line. Keep up the good work. > >________________________________ > >From: marianne dillow [mailto:mdillow31@verizon.net] >Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:58 PM >To: VACULPEP@rootsweb.com >Cc: Haynes, Patricia A. >Subject: RE: [VACULPEP] Barack Obama Descends From Eltonhead Line > > >I'm sorry if you are offended but I have received many emails that descend from these lineages that do appreciate the information. I am not talking about politics only genealogy. There are sources on this as William Addams Reitwiesner and Gary Boyd Roberts does genealogy on all of the Presidents and Vice-Presidents. They are people too with family and lineages just as well as everyone else does. That is because we all are human beings and genealogy belongs to all of us. . I posted this as genealogy not politics. I repeat, this has nothing to do with politics but genealogy only. And there are many desecendants throughout Virginia and Maryland that descends from the Eltonhead, Sutton, Thacker lines that I mentioned including myself. If we share a grandparent with someone in politics it is called genealogy not politics. > >I talk about genealogy period as I have been involved since 1982 on both my Mother and Father's lines and this one is my Mother''s in VA. I also have other lines in Culpeper of Graves, Parks, Pulliam and before that these lines were is Orange and Spotsylvania of Pulliam and Holladay, etc. > >Marianne Dillow > > >--- On Tue, 12/23/08, Haynes, Patricia A. <phaynes@fulbright.com> wrote: > > > From: Haynes, Patricia A. <phaynes@fulbright.com> > Subject: RE: [VACULPEP] Barack Obama Descends From Eltonhead Line > To: vaculpep@rootsweb.com, mdillow31@verizon.net > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 11:19 AM > > > Excuse me, but please keep your political views to yourself. While there are no > sources for this, it is entirely possible it is true, and if you are an > Eltonhead descendent you might be interested. I've seen other Obama > genealogies, and in fact, it has been reported on the news (don't know who > did the research) that Obama and Cheney are distantly related. > > Genealogy is what it is, regardless of whether or not we like it. I do not > intend to get into an e-mail dispute over this, but do feel that your comments > are not warranted. Have a great holiday season! > > Patricia Haynes > > -----Original Message----- > From: vaculpep-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vaculpep-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Fern > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:31 AM > To: mdillow31@verizon.net; vaculpep@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Barack Obama Descends From Eltonhead Line > > This is a ridiculous bunch of trash and doesn't belong on this list or any > other list - We all know where and how we got this man so let's not make up > stupid stories.... > fern > ----- Original Message ----- > From: marianne dillow > To: VACULPEP@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:40 PM > Subject: [VACULPEP] Barack Obama Descends From Eltonhead Line > > > Barack Obama also descends from Richard Eltonhead and Anne Sutton through > Martha Eltonhead and Edwin Conway, Sr. through their daughter Eltonhead > Conway > and Henry Thacker, Sr. He descends from Martha Thacker that married Thomas > Hickman. Martha is a sister to my Henry Thacker, Jr who married Elizabeth > Payne. > > > This is written by Gary Boyd Roberts from NEGHS Articles : > > "The best royal descent for Edward FitzRandolph is from William the > Lion, > King of Scotland, who died in 1214, via an illegitimate daughter, Isabel of > Scotland, who married Magna Charta Surety Robert de Ros. The male line of the > FitzRandolph/FitzRandall/ FitzRanulph/FitzRalph family is one of the very few > that can be traced before the Norman conquest of 1066. The best royal descent > of > Martha Eltonhead Conway is almost certainly from Edward I, King of England > (died > 1307) through the Bohun, FitzAlan, Goushill, Stanley, Savage, Bold, Gerard, > and > Eltonhead families of medieval and early modern England." > > "As some of the above connections make clear, Senator Obama has a large > number of distant notable cousins. The easiest to trace are the FitzRandolph, > Duvall, and Eltonhead descendants. " > > "Eltonhead descendants include Richard Henry Lee and Francis Lightfoot > Lee, signers of the Declaration of Independence, Continental Congress > President > Cyrus Griffin, Supreme Court Chief Justice Edward Douglass White, Jr., > novelist > John Dos Passos, Secretary of State Edward Riley Stettinus, Jr., and the > wives > of Revolutionary statesman Gouverneur Morris, Francis Scott Key, Edwin > McMasters > Stanton (Lincoln’s Secretary of War), and Senator Harry Flood Byrd. > Kinships > to living notables are now being traced. Tantalizing possibilities we wish to > confirm further include astronaut John Glenn, actor Brad Pitt, filmmaker John > Waters, and musicians Justin Timberlake and Loudon and Rufus > Wainwright." > > Written by Gary Boyd Roberts > > Marianne Dillow > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message