Rick: For right now, I can only give you thumbnail sketch of Leroy's service. The copies of his military service record and his (and his wife's) pensioner files are not readily available to me (that room was just recarpeted today and the whole house is a giant mess.) And yes, it now my duty to write a bio on him and his service for the ceremony, so I will post that to this list when it is completed. The following comes from genie data base program under his notes: "His widow Sarah applied for widow's pension for his service in War of 1812, as a private under Capt. Menifee's Company (Application #WC-15613)." Ironically, Leroy had several other brothers, one whom (Thomas Kilby who married Malinda Hawkins in 1817) has no service record. Another brother, Henry (who married Susannah B. Brown in 1825), may or may not have served. His widow applied for pension and was denied. Those files contain mountains of correspondence. The ironic part is that she really did need the money, whereas Leroy's widow did not. When I get the house put back together, I'll pull his file and send you a more complete report on Leroy Kilby's military service. I did want to comment on your statement that your Reuben Garnett Waggener was "drafted." I doubt that. I don't think there was a draft for that war, or any war until the civil war (and even then, the CSA only instituted a draft at the very end.) So, that is something you might want to check out. Now, more broadly, a very distant cousin and also a business associate of mine lives in Northern Virginia, and she specializes in NARA records. Unlike me, she is certified by the Board for the Certification of Genealogists (BCG). She has a pretty heavy client load, but if you need a good researcher on these types of records, her contact information is: Nicki Birch LNPBIRCH@verizon.net Craig Kilby On Oct 23, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Rick Waggener wrote: > Craig- > This sounds quite interesting. I was wondering if you knew anything > about the actual service of Leroy. My ancestor Reuben Garnett > Waggener also served in the War of 1812, but I can't seem to find > much about his actual service. Since he was also in Culpeper County > at the time perhaps there are some common elements. Here's what I > know about Reuben's War of 1812 service: > > He was reportedly drafted to serve in Ballowe's 2nd Regiment of > Captain John Thom's Company, of the Virginia Militia. He entered > the service at the age of 17, on August 6, 1814 and was honorably > discharged 6 months later on February 14, 1815, at Camp Holly > Springs, Virginia. I have obtained a copy of Reuben's military > pension file. He received a pension of $8 a month, from 1871 until > his death in 1884. I also received copies of pay and muster rolls > for the periods of his service. He was paid $8/ month for the > service in 1814-5. This seems to show he was based at Camp Holly > the entire 6 months. This was located about 12 miles south of > Richmond in Henrico County. His son James Henry Waggener reported > later that Reuben was in one or two battles and several skirmishes, > and that in one of these he was wounded in the foot with a musket > ball. In the Cemetery Transcription for Reuben, he is described as > a "War of 1812 prisoner." I have yet to verify either of > these other reports. > > I would be interested if there are any common elements here with > Leroy, or if you or anyone else knows anything about this regiment > or company or Camp Holly. > > Rick Waggener > Walnut Creek, California > sequoia@pacbell.net > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Craig Kilby <persisto@earthlink.net> > To: Culpeper List <vaculpep@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:58:40 AM > Subject: [VACULPEP] War of 1812 Grave Marking Ceremony on November > 15th > > Hello listers: > > This is to let you know that the Virginia Society of the War of 1812 > will be placing a bronze marker at the grave of Leroy Kilby near > Slate Mills Rappahannock County on November 15th at 3:00 p.m. This > came about from initial efforts a year ago, when I met Mike Lyman, > president of the Virginia Chapter, who lives here in Lancaster where > I do. The state group was (and is) working on a statewide index of > grave sites for War of 1812 Veterans, and I mentioned to him there > was a grave for Leroy Kilby who served in that war, and whose wife > was a pensioner from that service. > > Lucia Kilby, widow of Dr. Irving Kilby, has made the arrangements > with Mike Lyman for the ceremony. > > Leroy Kilby (1785 - 1859) was the son of James Kilby (d. 1829) and > his first wife Lucy Sparks. He was twice married. First, to Eleanor > Mayre, daughter of Rev. Peter Mayre of Orange County and Eleanor > Coleman Green. By this wife he had one son, James O. Kilby who > married Sarah W. Gaines and who moved to Missouri (no known > children). His 2nd wife was Sarah Lee Hill, by whom he had 10 > children. > > The War of 1812 is called by some other name in Great Britain. It > started over British seizure of American shipping during one of the > Napoleanic Wars. To them, the American problem was a minor skirmish, > but not so minor that they didn't send gun boats up the Chesapeake > Bay, burn down the White House and bombard Baltimore, witnessed by a > young attorney named Francis Scott Key who set the episode to poem, > which is now known as the American National Anthem. > > The War was basically a "draw" and the end result was the abandonment > of American attempts to take over Canada, the British ceding the > Northwest Territory to the U.S., and a final and permanent boundary > between the US and Canada (which was at that time still a British > colony.) Though peace had been concluded, the news did not reach > British or American troops in New Orleans and the famous and fatal > (for the Brits) "Battle of New Orleans" of song fame resulted. > > One major impact of the War of 1812 was that, after it was over, > resulted in a huge wave of "Anglo-Southern" migration to Missouri, > which became a state in 1821 as part of the Missouri Compromise, > which admitted Maine (formerly a part of Masschussetts) as a free > state, and Missouri as a slave state. > > If any of you are interested in attending the ceremony, please let > contact me off list. > > Craig > > . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message