Thanks Charlene,   No, Craig has not told me he has a Graves line.  Isn't that weird ?  LOL !  Maybe he just got his line destroyed by DNA as well as mine did by DNA testing. Mine does not go back to Capt. Thomas Graves who helped establish parts of Va.   And my  last Graves in Culpeper is James Graves who married Sarah unknown and whose will is at the courthouse in 1781.  And yes they had a daughter named Jael which is a name I am not familiar with. I often have wondered where they got the name from.   . I descend from their daughter  Mary Graves who married Richard Parks and whose will is dated 17 Sep 1817 in Culpeper. James Graves parents are John Graves, Jr. and Frances unknown.   I also have posted besides Graves Parks, Pulliam, Holladay, Boswell in Culpeper, Orange and Spotsylv nia if anyone is interested.  Also Vivion, and Daniel, Thacker, Conway and Eltonhead, Dale and others in Lancscaster, Middlesex counties also if anyone one is interested in exchanging any info.   And you and I have the Eltonhead line. LOL !   Best Wishes, Marianne Dillow     --- On Tue, 1/6/09, TEbel2888@aol.com <TEbel2888@aol.com> wrote: From: TEbel2888@aol.com <TEbel2888@aol.com> Subject: [VACULPEP] GRAVES To: vaculpep@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 2:53 PM I was just chuckling to myself that through all the bickering Craig and Marianne are cousins through GRAVES. Has anyone found the surname of Jael GRAVES' mother, Sarah? There are very few 17th and 18th women with the given name "Jael" to whom I am not related. Charlene REEDS-EBELING Genealogical Direct Lines: DAD'S SIDE: REEDS, PORTER, WEAVER(Tilman), RICHARDSON, BOWLING (Group 7), WOOD, ISRAEL, CRAIG, LAIRD, HACKLEY, BALL, CORBIN, ELTONHEAD, TAYLOE, WILLIAMSON, UNDERWOOD, KEENE, WITHERS, MAUZY, CONYERS, WITHERS, KEENE, DUNCAN (Joseph and Lydia-VA), SHIPPEY, MOTT, PIGG, BELL (Stone Church and Roger-Orange Co., Va), BEARD/BAIRD, CARTER (Giles and Theodorick line), WEBB, WADDILL, MICHAUX, CUNNINGHAM---VA --Plus WHITE, HAGERTY, FLATLEY--Green Bay MOMS SIDE: CORNWELL (NY), ANSCHICKS, BECKER, STEDMAN, REITZ, BUTZ, KNAUSS, DIEHL, PATTERMAN, THULL, MEHAN, ROMIG, CARL, SIEGFRIED **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)