I am guessing that Craig is teasing....surely?? If not, as an example of my lines, they are all in New England and they kept excellent records in New England from the day the Mayflower landed to me. I have 17 proven lines of descent from the Mayflower. I had to prove WITH DOCUMENTATION all of these lines, and they were approved by the Mayflower Society. On another of my proven lines going back to 1600s there are several books such as "Ancestral Roots", and "The Magna Charta Sureties 1215", and "Charlemagnes Descendants" that are used. I found that ancestor in one of the books, and from there the lines connect further and further back. In those books, the best and most professional genealogists and researchers in the world put together the proven lineages using all of the old records of England, France, and many countries. I would venture to guess that most of us have at least one or two lines in those books. The hard part sometimes is getting that far back (about 1600s). I have worked on my husbands lines which are all southern. Unfortunately I can't get any further back than about 1795 on most of his. I know it is frustrating, but you can't say that others lines are not true simply because you can not find one yet. Just keep digging and maybe a line will open up for you also. Kathy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Kilby" <persisto@earthlink.net> To: <mdillow31@verizon.net>; <vaculpep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] It's all relative > I'm from Missouri, so you will have to show me your documentation and > how you have proved all of this. Your move. > > On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:15 AM, marianne dillow wrote: > >> Hi Craig, >> >> It is proven all the way from me through my Mother's lines by >> wills and other records. That is all that is required... records,.. >> wills, etc. I have a will on each generation etc. That is called >> genealogy and research. Have a good day :) >> >> Marianne Dillow >> >> >> --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Craig Kilby <persisto@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> From: Craig Kilby <persisto@earthlink.net> >> Subject: It's all relative >> To: mdillow31@verizon.net, vaculpep@rootsweb.com >> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 12:11 AM >> >> >> I think this was the whole point. I could go to Walmart and run >> into a ninth cousin without either of us even knowing it. All this >> talk about being descendants of King so-and-so or Adam and Eve is >> just so much talk. As my favorite researcher likes to say: >> >> >> PROVE IT >> >> >> Craig Kilby >> >> >> >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:55 AM, marianne dillow wrote: >> >> >> I am the one who posted about Barack Obama and myself being 9th >> cousins through Conway, Eltonhead, Thacker grandparents in Virginia. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message