All I ever asked or said was PROVE IT That is not being disagreeable. Regarding the the post about Mayflower descendancy. There are probably about 25 million US citizens, many on this board, who have descent from this group. And it can be proved, just as the poster explained. And also as the poster explained, she had to document each and every step along the way. She did. One does not prove an argument simply by saying "it is in a book." That was, is and always be my whole point. That is not being disagreeable. If you are familiar with TV show "HOUSE", I am HOUSE. I do not suffer fools gladly, and fools by no means suffer me.

I am glad to hear that. I thought you were seriously saying that she/anyone couldn't really prove their lineage. I do also understand that books such as the Mayflower books, and the other books I listed, have had errors. Usually they come out with books showing the corrections. New material is still found continuously. So, I guess seriously that DNA is probably the most reliable source there can be. Glad that we can agree to be agreeable ;~) Kathy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Kilby" <persisto@earthlink.net> To: <vaculpep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:31 AM Subject: [VACULPEP] Prove It > All I ever asked or said was > > PROVE IT > > That is not being disagreeable. > > Regarding the the post about Mayflower descendancy. There are > probably about 25 million US citizens, many on this board, who have > descent from this group. And it can be proved, just as the poster > explained. And also as the poster explained, she had to document > each and every step along the way. She did. > > One does not prove an argument simply by saying "it is in a book." > > That was, is and always be my whole point. That is not being > disagreeable. > > If you are familiar with TV show "HOUSE", I am HOUSE. > > I do not suffer fools gladly, and fools by no means suffer me. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathy, No, I never meant to say that the person in question could not prove her lineage. I only asked her to PROVE her lineage back to William the Conquorer, Charlemagne and the person known as Jesus. That's quite a feat. And she can't PROVE anything. Just because is it in some book is not proof. Call me a skeptic. In reality, almost of us will be quite lucky to get back to the 1500s, when records for the masses began. All this tripe about anything before that time is what I suppose really galls me, especially when accompanied with no documentation other than "it is in a book." Guess what? I can write a book too. Does that mean it's true? Of course not. Therein is my whole point. On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:20 PM, <rebeltrumpet@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I am glad to hear that. I thought you were seriously saying > that she/anyone couldn't really prove their lineage. I do also > understand > that books such as the Mayflower books, and the other books I > listed, have > had errors. Usually they come out with books showing the > corrections. > New > material is still found continuously. So, I guess seriously that > DNA is > probably > the most reliable source there can be. > Glad that we can agree to be agreeable ;~) > Kathy. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Kilby" <persisto@earthlink.net> > To: <vaculpep@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:31 AM > Subject: [VACULPEP] Prove It > > >> All I ever asked or said was >> >> PROVE IT >> >> That is not being disagreeable. >> >> Regarding the the post about Mayflower descendancy. There are >> probably about 25 million US citizens, many on this board, who have >> descent from this group. And it can be proved, just as the poster >> explained. And also as the poster explained, she had to document >> each and every step along the way. She did. >> >> One does not prove an argument simply by saying "it is in a book." >> >> That was, is and always be my whole point. That is not being >> disagreeable. >> >> If you are familiar with TV show "HOUSE", I am HOUSE. >> >> I do not suffer fools gladly, and fools by no means suffer me. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Craig,    You still don't get it. The royal stuff is done by research  by Gary Boyd Roberts and William Addams Reitwiesner that does genealogy on all Presidents and Vice Presidents. Have you read any of Gary Boyd Roberts work ?  He has also researched the early colonists of New England and Virginia.  It  is called research  just as  you would do only the research is put in a book.   As far as Jesus I am His child and He is my Heavenly Father. And I certainly am glad to have that.   Marianne Dillow     n Tue, 1/6/09, Craig Kilby <persisto@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Craig Kilby <persisto@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Prove It To: vaculpep@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 11:36 AM Kathy, No, I never meant to say that the person in question could not prove her lineage. I only asked her to PROVE her lineage back to William the Conquorer, Charlemagne and the person known as Jesus. That's quite a feat. And she can't PROVE anything. Just because is it in some book is not proof. Call me a skeptic. In reality, almost of us will be quite lucky to get back to the 1500s, when records for the masses began. All this tripe about anything before that time is what I suppose really galls me, especially when accompanied with no documentation other than "it is in a book." Guess what? I can write a book too. Does that mean it's true? Of course not. Therein is my whole point. On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:20 PM, <rebeltrumpet@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I am glad to hear that. I thought you were seriously saying > that she/anyone couldn't really prove their lineage. I do also > understand > that books such as the Mayflower books, and the other books I > listed, have > had errors. Usually they come out with books showing the > corrections. > New > material is still found continuously. So, I guess seriously that > DNA is > probably > the most reliable source there can be. > Glad that we can agree to be agreeable ;~) > Kathy. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Kilby" <persisto@earthlink.net> > To: vaculpep@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:31 AM > Subject: [VACULPEP] Prove It > > >> All I ever asked or said was >> >> PROVE IT >> >> That is not being disagreeable. >> >> Regarding the the post about Mayflower descendancy. There are >> probably about 25 million US citizens, many on this board, who have >> descent from this group. And it can be proved, just as the poster >> explained. And also as the poster explained, she had to document >> each and every step along the way. She did. >> >> One does not prove an argument simply by saying "it is in a book." >> >> That was, is and always be my whole point. That is not being >> disagreeable. >> >> If you are familiar with TV show "HOUSE", I am HOUSE. >> >> I do not suffer fools gladly, and fools by no means suffer me. >> >> -------------------------------