LOL Oh lordy you do find interesting tidbits don't you LOL Eliz On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto@earthlink.net> wrote: > Eliz > > Glad you enjoyed it. I sure did. > > I never met the old ladies. I didn't put this in the story, but when > driving their yard I asked Lucia just who these "old ladies" were. > She said they were four old ladies, now down to three. I asked, "Are > they sisters?" She said, "Oh, no." I asked, "What do you mean?" > She said, "I never asked, and they never told. If you get my drift." > > HA HA HA > > Craig > > On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote: > >> What a wonderful tale, I sure wish I had been there to see it <G> and >> to see what the old ladies thought of the convoy <G> >> >> >> >> Eliz >> >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Craig Kilby >> <persisto@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> Dear Listers: >>> >>> In the many years I have been doing genealogical research, today must >>> rank among one of the most memorable ever. Not all things have to do >>> with court houses. They sometimes have to do with cemeteries, and on >>> very special occasions, they have to do with ceremonies for soldiers >>> past. Since getting there is half the fun, please allow me to share >>> a most enjoyable day. >>> >>> It all started over a year ago, when Mike Lyman, a fellow SAR >>> compatriot of the Richard Henry Lee Chapter in Lancaster County, >>> Virginia, and past President of the Virginia Society War of 1812 >>> Virginia, came into the Mary Ball Museum & Library to donate his >>> latest work, "Location of War of 1812 Veteran Graves in Virginia" I >>> told him I knew of a grave I bet he didn't. He was all ears. I told >>> him about the Kilby family grave yard at Slate Mills in Rappahannock >>> County, where lies Private Leroy Kilby (1785-1859). >>> >>> Fast forward to today. I drove up yesterday (Friday) to do some >>> research for a client at the Culpeper Court House. (If anybody knows >>> where the MISSING "Foushee vs. Foushee's Executor" chancery suit, >>> settled in 1845, has gone to, please let me know. It contains the >>> will of one Thornton Foushee whose will was recorded in MISSING Will >>> Book "M".) >>> >>> I had not been to Culpeper for any length of time in at last ten >>> years. I must say, the downtown is quite a hopping little place for >>> night life. I had a wonderful mug of "Crab Swiss Fondue" soup at >>> "The Pub" on East Davis, which is in a basement off of an alley, and >>> is the site of the old Culpeper County jail, where my poor old great- >>> great uncle Joseph Kilby died while there in 1845. He was >>> incarcerated for bad debts relating to questionable horse dealing. I >>> toasted him in front of the roaring wood burning fireplace. I'm sure >>> it was all just a minor misunderstanding. (When I relayed this story >>> to the staff, I was informed the place is very much haunted.) >>> >>> But the thrust of this trip was all about today. >>> >>> Today began with intermitment rains, and did not bode well for any >>> outdoor activities. To start the day, however, was an in-door >>> meeting of the Culpeper Minutemen Chapter of the SAR here at the Best >>> Western Hotel where I am staying and from which I write this account. >>> >>> My local SAR chapter apparently does nothing by the rule book. We >>> are simply a social organization that meets for cocktails at 11:30 >>> a.m., have a nice lunch and a good speaker, and go home. Always a >>> good crowd, and that is all I thought it was supposed to be. >>> >>> Let me tell, when I walked in I saw half of the people there in >>> period costume, including Mike Lyman, who had told me in advance that >>> I would learn what a "real" SAR meeting is all about, I knew I was in >>> for something quite different. I'll skip all the formalities here. >>> As people introduced themselves, I learned that our featured speaker >>> today was none other than Marc Wheat, President of the Germanna >>> Memorial Foundation. Now this came as quite a shock as just this >>> very morning I had been exchanging emails with John Blankenbaker >>> about the origins of the First Colony. >>> >>> A huge pang of guilt also hit me, as I had not renewed my membership >>> to Germanna in some years. I rectified that immediately! I had >>> never met Marc in person, and I knew nothing of his professional >>> background (very impressive), and I was quite eager to hear his >>> presentation. Unfortunately, most of it was drowned out by a live >>> band at a birthday party in the next room, and an Evangelical choir >>> group across the hall. Bad planning on the part of the Best >>> Western. Marc did a good job of going with the flow, even dancing to >>> the music at one point. >>> >>> These "real" SAR meetings really drag on. Everybody gets an award >>> for something. >>> >>> But, dear reader, if you have stayed with me this far, we get to the >>> really good part of the day. >>> >>> The Society for the War of 1812, under Mike Lyman diligent pursuit of >>> making this happen, was scheduled for 3:00 at the Kilby Family >>> Cemetery at Slate Mills. I must here mention my dear cousin Lucia >>> Kilby of Sperryville who coordinated this with Mike Lyman. >>> >>> Now, as I said at the beginning, getting there is half the fun. >>> Today, it was nearly all of the fun. Remember, it had been raining >>> most of the day, and most of the previous two days before. >>> >>> The Kilby cemetery is not exactly anywhere anyone would ever find >>> it. In fact, it is no where anyone would ever find it. Knowing >>> this, Lucia Kilby had arranged for us all to meet at the Slate Mills >>> Baptist Church. Finding even that is not an easy task, but we all >>> had good directions. >>> >>> Driving from Culpeper to Slate Mills in a driving rain, not even >>> knowing if Lucia would show up or not (the dear lady is in her 80s), >>> I arrived ahead of most of the group (nearly all from the local SAR >>> chapter, but some from as far away as Fairfax County), and there were >>> a few already assembled. To my surprise and delight, this group >>> included Dr. Walter B. Kilby, a direct descendant of Leroy Kilby, and >>> Lucia's nephew. (Lucia's own children could care less about these >>> things, it being deer season.) >>> >>> The only person who knew how to get to the grave site was Lucia >>> Kilby. It's a good thing I have a jeep. >>> >>> She explained that this grave yard was on private property, and that >>> we had to go through several gates and up a hill which has no road to >>> get to it. That was an understatement. >>> >>> Thankfully, it had quit raining. >>> >>> Since we were still waiting for others, It was decided to take an >>> advance convoy of three vehicles, including Mike Lyman's van with all >>> of the appurtenances for the ceremoney, and come back for the others >>> later. >>> >>> With Craig and Lucia in the lead, in my jeep, we wound our way >>> through some back roads, arrived at the farm in question, and >>> proceeded along. At this point, Lucia's memory got a little foggy on >>> just where the grave yard was. Not where it was, but how to get to >>> it. She hadn't been there in years. (She, in fact, is the one who >>> discovered it umpteen years ago.) >>> >>> So, not seeing any viable way to get up that hill, she said we should >>> just drive through the ladies' yard and go around it, and then up the >>> hill. Which, after another gate, we did. >>> >>> Definitely time to put the jeep in 4-wheel drive mode. >>> >>> To my surprise, Mike Lyman's van actually made it up that mud, >>> slippery hill. But there was one more hill to go, and poor Mike's >>> van just didn't make it that far. Lucia and I proceeded and finally >>> spotted the serene, hill top, iron fenced graveyard. >>> >>> There, we were first greet by two donkeys, followed very shortly >>> afterwards by about 20 wet and very curious horses, ponies and >>> colts. Did we bring food? >>> >>> The third vehicle in the caravan, also a jeep, came up a bit later, >>> informing us that the old ladies who lived there did NOT appreciate >>> our driving through their yard. Didn't we see the gate we had passed >>> to be used for that purpose? (Obviously, we did not.) >>> >>> Alright, after much shuttling back and forth, about 20 people and 20 >>> equines gathered around the grave of Leroy Kilby for a very elaborate >>> ceremony to mark the grave of Private Leroy Kilby, who spent all of >>> six weeks at Camp Selden. (We are not sure where that was, but it >>> was probably on the Potomac River to guard against British man-o-wars >>> coming upstream to burn down Washington and Baltimore. As we all >>> know, that was not a success.) >>> >>> And, I must add, just as the ceremony began, the sun came out in >>> brilliant display. Dr. Kilby unveiled the marker, taps was played, >>> prayers were said, and, well, it was just a most remarkable day for >>> one and all. >>> >>> So, here ends my brief story of one day in the Piedmont of Virginia. >>> >>> Who says genealogy is dull? >>> >>> Yours in History, >>> Craig Kilby >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Still looking for the family of Champ Stanton, I believe that Champ was born in Culpepper 1783. He married in Madison County to Sarah Llindsey 1809 and was living in Madison Co in 1810 Census. I found that him listed in the DAR library of Chapter Kate Waller Barrett Chapter DAR, with the Wills of Madison county VA.,  of 1793-1820, Virginia DAR GROC report; s1 v074 : wills of Madison co., VA. 1793-1820   I have joined the Madison Co rootsweb and hoping to find more information on this family ........ Another thing I am not aware of is that just because he is listed at the DAR library he would not necessarily have been in a family that had a Revolutionary War ancestor.??  Any help needed.   joyce  

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deborahlewis1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.culpeper/4551.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tana, I'd like to establish a dialog with you about our common ancestor, John and Ann Merry Wallis Lewis. My great grandfather, John Merry Lewis, was a ounger brother of Alfred Brown Lewis. John Merry married Margaret Irene Covington in 1852 and had 4 daughters and 4 sons. John Merry served in company B 13th Virginia Infantry and was killed April 9th, 1865 in the retreat from Petersburg. He was the only Lewis who did not survive the war. All 4 of John Merry's daughters survived to adulthodd, and two of the 4 sons survived to adulthood. My grandfather, Henry Wayne Lewis, was the oldest surviving son and he was born in December 1857. John Merry and Alfred Brown had a brother, Abram/Abraham Henry who married Geraldine Covington a sister or Margaret Irene Covington. They moved to Bates County Missouri, where Abram/Abraham was a farmer and a Baptist Minister. He also served in the Confederate Army in the Missouri State Guard. Another brother, Robert Strother, served as am Assistant Surgeon in the Confederate Army. I grew up in Culpeper and now live in a Washington DC subub, Wooodbridge Va. My sister lives in Culpeper and her younger daughter also lives there. I've some information about the family as well as access to some sources because of where I live. My sister has the family bible started by John Merry Lewis with all 8 children's births, marriages, and deaths. Henry Wayne's descendents are also listed. My email is deborahlewis@erols.com for anyone interested in direct contact. Thanks. Deb Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

If anyone wants photos from today's event, Mike Lyman has already sent the important one by email. I'm afraid I was the designated photographer on most of them, but they are still very telling. Send me an email off list and I'll forward Mike's email to me with the photos. Again, the "Culpeper Minutemen" Chapter of SAR really made this day (along of course with Lucia Kilby, Dr. Walter Kilby, and others). What an adventure. If nothing else, these photos give an idea of the landscape of the Culpeper/Rappahannock/Madison County border and the Piedmont. (Slate Mills is right where those 3 counties converve. We crossed the Culpeper/Rappahannock County border at least twice on this trip, and when asked where James Kilby, father of Leroy, was buried, we just pointed across the hill.) Craig On Nov 15, 2008, at 10:36 PM, RockCatt@aol.com wrote: > What a great day, Craig! Thank you also for your kind words > regarding Marc > Wheat, the President of the Germanna Foundation. It's good to > know that he > also dances while discussing Germanna! > > Barb Price > > > In a message dated 11/15/2008 15:56:08 Pacific Standard Time, > persisto@earthlink.net writes: > > Dear Listers: > > In the many years I have been doing genealogical research, today must > rank among one of the most memorable ever. Not all things have to do > with court houses. They sometimes have to do with cemeteries, and on > very special occasions, they have to do with ceremonies for soldiers > past. Since getting there is half the fun, please allow me to share > a most enjoyable day. > > It all started over a year ago, when Mike Lyman, a fellow SAR > compatriot of the Richard Henry Lee Chapter in Lancaster County, > Virginia, and past President of the Virginia Society War of 1812 > Virginia, came into the Mary Ball Museum & Library to donate his > latest work, "Location of War of 1812 Veteran Graves in Virginia" I > told him I knew of a grave I bet he didn't. He was all ears. I told > him about the Kilby family grave yard at Slate Mills in Rappahannock > County, where lies Private Leroy Kilby (1785-1859). > > Fast forward to today. I drove up yesterday (Friday) to do some > research for a client at the Culpeper Court House. (If anybody knows > where the MISSING "Foushee vs. Foushee's Executor" chancery suit, > settled in 1845, has gone to, please let me know. It contains the > will of one Thornton Foushee whose will was recorded in MISSING Will > Book "M".) > > I had not been to Culpeper for any length of time in at last ten > years. I must say, the downtown is quite a hopping little place for > night life. I had a wonderful mug of "Crab Swiss Fondue" soup at > "The Pub" on East Davis, which is in a basement off of an alley, and > is the site of the old Culpeper County jail, where my poor old great- > great uncle Joseph Kilby died while there in 1845. He was > incarcerated for bad debts relating to questionable horse dealing. I > toasted him in front of the roaring wood burning fireplace. I'm sure > it was all just a minor misunderstanding. (When I relayed this story > to the staff, I was informed the place is very much haunted.) > > But the thrust of this trip was all about today. > > Today began with intermitment rains, and did not bode well for any > outdoor activities. To start the day, however, was an in-door > meeting of the Culpeper Minutemen Chapter of the SAR here at the Best > Western Hotel where I am staying and from which I write this account. > > My local SAR chapter apparently does nothing by the rule book. We > are simply a social organization that meets for cocktails at 11:30 > a.m., have a nice lunch and a good speaker, and go home. Always a > good crowd, and that is all I thought it was supposed to be. > > Let me tell, when I walked in I saw half of the people there in > period costume, including Mike Lyman, who had told me in advance that > I would learn what a "real" SAR meeting is all about, I knew I was in > for something quite different. I'll skip all the formalities here. > As people introduced themselves, I learned that our featured speaker > today was none other than Marc Wheat, President of the Germanna > Memorial Foundation. Now this came as quite a shock as just this > very morning I had been exchanging emails with John Blankenbaker > about the origins of the First Colony. > > A huge pang of guilt also hit me, as I had not renewed my membership > to Germanna in some years. I rectified that immediately! I had > never met Marc in person, and I knew nothing of his professional > background (very impressive), and I was quite eager to hear his > presentation. Unfortunately, most of it was drowned out by a live > band at a birthday party in the next room, and an Evangelical choir > group across the hall. Bad planning on the part of the Best > Western. Marc did a good job of going with the flow, even dancing to > the music at one point. > > These "real" SAR meetings really drag on. Everybody gets an award > for something. > > But, dear reader, if you have stayed with me this far, we get to the > really good part of the day. > > The Society for the War of 1812, under Mike Lyman diligent pursuit of > making this happen, was scheduled for 3:00 at the Kilby Family > Cemetery at Slate Mills. I must here mention my dear cousin Lucia > Kilby of Sperryville who coordinated this with Mike Lyman. > > Now, as I said at the beginning, getting there is half the fun. > Today, it was nearly all of the fun. Remember, it had been raining > most of the day, and most of the previous two days before. > > The Kilby cemetery is not exactly anywhere anyone would ever find > it. In fact, it is no where anyone would ever find it. Knowing > this, Lucia Kilby had arranged for us all to meet at the Slate Mills > Baptist Church. Finding even that is not an easy task, but we all > had good directions. > > Driving from Culpeper to Slate Mills in a driving rain, not even > knowing if Lucia would show up or not (the dear lady is in her 80s), > I arrived ahead of most of the group (nearly all from the local SAR > chapter, but some from as far away as Fairfax County), and there were > a few already assembled. To my surprise and delight, this group > included Dr. Walter B. Kilby, a direct descendant of Leroy Kilby, and > Lucia's nephew. (Lucia's own children could care less about these > things, it being deer season.) > > The only person who knew how to get to the grave site was Lucia > Kilby. It's a good thing I have a jeep. > > She explained that this grave yard was on private property, and that > we had to go through several gates and up a hill which has no road to > get to it. That was an understatement. > > Thankfully, it had quit raining. > > Since we were still waiting for others, It was decided to take an > advance convoy of three vehicles, including Mike Lyman's van with all > of the appurtenances for the ceremoney, and come back for the others > later. > > With Craig and Lucia in the lead, in my jeep, we wound our way > through some back roads, arrived at the farm in question, and > proceeded along. At this point, Lucia's memory got a little foggy on > just where the grave yard was. Not where it was, but how to get to > it. She hadn't been there in years. (She, in fact, is the one who > discovered it umpteen years ago.) > > So, not seeing any viable way to get up that hill, she said we should > just drive through the ladies' yard and go around it, and then up the > hill. Which, after another gate, we did. > > Definitely time to put the jeep in 4-wheel drive mode. > > To my surprise, Mike Lyman's van actually made it up that mud, > slippery hill. But there was one more hill to go, and poor Mike's > van just didn't make it that far. Lucia and I proceeded and finally > spotted the serene, hill top, iron fenced graveyard. > > There, we were first greet by two donkeys, followed very shortly > afterwards by about 20 wet and very curious horses, ponies and > colts. Did we bring food? > > The third vehicle in the caravan, also a jeep, came up a bit later, > informing us that the old ladies who lived there did NOT appreciate > our driving through their yard. Didn't we see the gate we had passed > to be used for that purpose? (Obviously, we did not.) > > Alright, after much shuttling back and forth, about 20 people and 20 > equines gathered around the grave of Leroy Kilby for a very elaborate > ceremony to mark the grave of Private Leroy Kilby, who spent all of > six weeks at Camp Selden. (We are not sure where that was, but it > was probably on the Potomac River to guard against British man-o-wars > coming upstream to burn down Washington and Baltimore. As we all > know, that was not a success.) > > And, I must add, just as the ceremony began, the sun came out in > brilliant display. Dr. Kilby unveiled the marker, taps was played, > prayers were said, and, well, it was just a most remarkable day for > one and all. > > So, here ends my brief story of one day in the Piedmont of Virginia. > > Who says genealogy is dull? > > Yours in History, > Craig Kilby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie > news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/ > aol?redir=htt > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

What a great day, Craig! Thank you also for your kind words regarding Marc Wheat, the President of the Germanna Foundation. It's good to know that he also dances while discussing Germanna! Barb Price In a message dated 11/15/2008 15:56:08 Pacific Standard Time, persisto@earthlink.net writes: Dear Listers: In the many years I have been doing genealogical research, today must rank among one of the most memorable ever. Not all things have to do with court houses. They sometimes have to do with cemeteries, and on very special occasions, they have to do with ceremonies for soldiers past. Since getting there is half the fun, please allow me to share a most enjoyable day. It all started over a year ago, when Mike Lyman, a fellow SAR compatriot of the Richard Henry Lee Chapter in Lancaster County, Virginia, and past President of the Virginia Society War of 1812 Virginia, came into the Mary Ball Museum & Library to donate his latest work, "Location of War of 1812 Veteran Graves in Virginia" I told him I knew of a grave I bet he didn't. He was all ears. I told him about the Kilby family grave yard at Slate Mills in Rappahannock County, where lies Private Leroy Kilby (1785-1859). Fast forward to today. I drove up yesterday (Friday) to do some research for a client at the Culpeper Court House. (If anybody knows where the MISSING "Foushee vs. Foushee's Executor" chancery suit, settled in 1845, has gone to, please let me know. It contains the will of one Thornton Foushee whose will was recorded in MISSING Will Book "M".) I had not been to Culpeper for any length of time in at last ten years. I must say, the downtown is quite a hopping little place for night life. I had a wonderful mug of "Crab Swiss Fondue" soup at "The Pub" on East Davis, which is in a basement off of an alley, and is the site of the old Culpeper County jail, where my poor old great- great uncle Joseph Kilby died while there in 1845. He was incarcerated for bad debts relating to questionable horse dealing. I toasted him in front of the roaring wood burning fireplace. I'm sure it was all just a minor misunderstanding. (When I relayed this story to the staff, I was informed the place is very much haunted.) But the thrust of this trip was all about today. Today began with intermitment rains, and did not bode well for any outdoor activities. To start the day, however, was an in-door meeting of the Culpeper Minutemen Chapter of the SAR here at the Best Western Hotel where I am staying and from which I write this account. My local SAR chapter apparently does nothing by the rule book. We are simply a social organization that meets for cocktails at 11:30 a.m., have a nice lunch and a good speaker, and go home. Always a good crowd, and that is all I thought it was supposed to be. Let me tell, when I walked in I saw half of the people there in period costume, including Mike Lyman, who had told me in advance that I would learn what a "real" SAR meeting is all about, I knew I was in for something quite different. I'll skip all the formalities here. As people introduced themselves, I learned that our featured speaker today was none other than Marc Wheat, President of the Germanna Memorial Foundation. Now this came as quite a shock as just this very morning I had been exchanging emails with John Blankenbaker about the origins of the First Colony. A huge pang of guilt also hit me, as I had not renewed my membership to Germanna in some years. I rectified that immediately! I had never met Marc in person, and I knew nothing of his professional background (very impressive), and I was quite eager to hear his presentation. Unfortunately, most of it was drowned out by a live band at a birthday party in the next room, and an Evangelical choir group across the hall. Bad planning on the part of the Best Western. Marc did a good job of going with the flow, even dancing to the music at one point. These "real" SAR meetings really drag on. Everybody gets an award for something. But, dear reader, if you have stayed with me this far, we get to the really good part of the day. The Society for the War of 1812, under Mike Lyman diligent pursuit of making this happen, was scheduled for 3:00 at the Kilby Family Cemetery at Slate Mills. I must here mention my dear cousin Lucia Kilby of Sperryville who coordinated this with Mike Lyman. Now, as I said at the beginning, getting there is half the fun. Today, it was nearly all of the fun. Remember, it had been raining most of the day, and most of the previous two days before. The Kilby cemetery is not exactly anywhere anyone would ever find it. In fact, it is no where anyone would ever find it. Knowing this, Lucia Kilby had arranged for us all to meet at the Slate Mills Baptist Church. Finding even that is not an easy task, but we all had good directions. Driving from Culpeper to Slate Mills in a driving rain, not even knowing if Lucia would show up or not (the dear lady is in her 80s), I arrived ahead of most of the group (nearly all from the local SAR chapter, but some from as far away as Fairfax County), and there were a few already assembled. To my surprise and delight, this group included Dr. Walter B. Kilby, a direct descendant of Leroy Kilby, and Lucia's nephew. (Lucia's own children could care less about these things, it being deer season.) The only person who knew how to get to the grave site was Lucia Kilby. It's a good thing I have a jeep. She explained that this grave yard was on private property, and that we had to go through several gates and up a hill which has no road to get to it. That was an understatement. Thankfully, it had quit raining. Since we were still waiting for others, It was decided to take an advance convoy of three vehicles, including Mike Lyman's van with all of the appurtenances for the ceremoney, and come back for the others later. With Craig and Lucia in the lead, in my jeep, we wound our way through some back roads, arrived at the farm in question, and proceeded along. At this point, Lucia's memory got a little foggy on just where the grave yard was. Not where it was, but how to get to it. She hadn't been there in years. (She, in fact, is the one who discovered it umpteen years ago.) So, not seeing any viable way to get up that hill, she said we should just drive through the ladies' yard and go around it, and then up the hill. Which, after another gate, we did. Definitely time to put the jeep in 4-wheel drive mode. To my surprise, Mike Lyman's van actually made it up that mud, slippery hill. But there was one more hill to go, and poor Mike's van just didn't make it that far. Lucia and I proceeded and finally spotted the serene, hill top, iron fenced graveyard. There, we were first greet by two donkeys, followed very shortly afterwards by about 20 wet and very curious horses, ponies and colts. Did we bring food? The third vehicle in the caravan, also a jeep, came up a bit later, informing us that the old ladies who lived there did NOT appreciate our driving through their yard. Didn't we see the gate we had passed to be used for that purpose? (Obviously, we did not.) Alright, after much shuttling back and forth, about 20 people and 20 equines gathered around the grave of Leroy Kilby for a very elaborate ceremony to mark the grave of Private Leroy Kilby, who spent all of six weeks at Camp Selden. (We are not sure where that was, but it was probably on the Potomac River to guard against British man-o-wars coming upstream to burn down Washington and Baltimore. As we all know, that was not a success.) And, I must add, just as the ceremony began, the sun came out in brilliant display. Dr. Kilby unveiled the marker, taps was played, prayers were said, and, well, it was just a most remarkable day for one and all. So, here ends my brief story of one day in the Piedmont of Virginia. Who says genealogy is dull? Yours in History, Craig Kilby ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

Kathleen: This is not my understanding of the state affairs at all from the Culpeper Circuit Clerk's Office. In fact, I specifically asked about this. The status is this: The LVA has sent people up from Richmond to put the files in "flat files"...all still at the court house. There are no plans to send them to LVA for scanning at this time. Budget cuts have ended that for now, except for what was already in process. The Culpeper chancery suits are not yet index on the LVA web site. The original remain at Culpeper Circuit Clerk's Office. The Foushee file I was seeking is GONE. GONE GONE GONE. Someone, days long ago, lifted it. It is in the orginal index but not on the newly created index which tells us it was stolen. My question is to anyone out there who just may "have" it. Craig On Nov 15, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Kathleen B. Simons wrote: > Thanks for sharing this journey, Craig. > > Regarding the chancery record - my understanding is all of them > have been > sent to Library of VA to be scanned. Donna Boyd, the president of the > Culpeper Genealogy Society coordinated it. It took months upon > months for > her and other volunteers to open them, place all sheets in order > and to go > through and index names involved. I did some of them when I stayed > with > Donna the year before last (or was it the year prior to that? > Hmmm) when I > was in Culpeper for the Germanna Reunion. The completed project has > been at > LVA for a longgg time. Once they are all scanned, I would think the > originals would d be returned to Culpeper but am not sure. > > I will call Donna tomorrow to see if I can get some details and a > status. > > Kathleen > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Craig Kilby > <persisto@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Dear Listers: >> >> In the many years I have been doing genealogical research, today must >> rank among one of the most memorable ever. Not all things have to do >> with court houses. They sometimes have to do with cemeteries, and on >> very special occasions, they have to do with ceremonies for soldiers >> past. Since getting there is half the fun, please allow me to share >> a most enjoyable day. >> >> It all started over a year ago, when Mike Lyman, a fellow SAR >> compatriot of the Richard Henry Lee Chapter in Lancaster County, >> Virginia, and past President of the Virginia Society War of 1812 >> Virginia, came into the Mary Ball Museum & Library to donate his >> latest work, "Location of War of 1812 Veteran Graves in Virginia" I >> told him I knew of a grave I bet he didn't. He was all ears. I told >> him about the Kilby family grave yard at Slate Mills in Rappahannock >> County, where lies Private Leroy Kilby (1785-1859). >> >> Fast forward to today. I drove up yesterday (Friday) to do some >> research for a client at the Culpeper Court House. (If anybody knows >> where the MISSING "Foushee vs. Foushee's Executor" chancery suit, >> settled in 1845, has gone to, please let me know. It contains the >> will of one Thornton Foushee whose will was recorded in MISSING Will >> Book "M".) >> >> I had not been to Culpeper for any length of time in at last ten >> years. I must say, the downtown is quite a hopping little place for >> night life. I had a wonderful mug of "Crab Swiss Fondue" soup at >> "The Pub" on East Davis, which is in a basement off of an alley, and >> is the site of the old Culpeper County jail, where my poor old great- >> great uncle Joseph Kilby died while there in 1845. He was >> incarcerated for bad debts relating to questionable horse dealing. I >> toasted him in front of the roaring wood burning fireplace. I'm sure >> it was all just a minor misunderstanding. (When I relayed this story >> to the staff, I was informed the place is very much haunted.) >> >> But the thrust of this trip was all about today. >> >> Today began with intermitment rains, and did not bode well for any >> outdoor activities. To start the day, however, was an in-door >> meeting of the Culpeper Minutemen Chapter of the SAR here at the Best >> Western Hotel where I am staying and from which I write this account. >> >> My local SAR chapter apparently does nothing by the rule book. We >> are simply a social organization that meets for cocktails at 11:30 >> a.m., have a nice lunch and a good speaker, and go home. Always a >> good crowd, and that is all I thought it was supposed to be. >> >> Let me tell, when I walked in I saw half of the people there in >> period costume, including Mike Lyman, who had told me in advance that >> I would learn what a "real" SAR meeting is all about, I knew I was in >> for something quite different. I'll skip all the formalities here. >> As people introduced themselves, I learned that our featured speaker >> today was none other than Marc Wheat, President of the Germanna >> Memorial Foundation. Now this came as quite a shock as just this >> very morning I had been exchanging emails with John Blankenbaker >> about the origins of the First Colony. >> >> A huge pang of guilt also hit me, as I had not renewed my membership >> to Germanna in some years. I rectified that immediately! I had >> never met Marc in person, and I knew nothing of his professional >> background (very impressive), and I was quite eager to hear his >> presentation. Unfortunately, most of it was drowned out by a live >> band at a birthday party in the next room, and an Evangelical choir >> group across the hall. Bad planning on the part of the Best >> Western. Marc did a good job of going with the flow, even dancing to >> the music at one point. >> >> These "real" SAR meetings really drag on. Everybody gets an award >> for something. >> >> But, dear reader, if you have stayed with me this far, we get to the >> really good part of the day. >> >> The Society for the War of 1812, under Mike Lyman diligent pursuit of >> making this happen, was scheduled for 3:00 at the Kilby Family >> Cemetery at Slate Mills. I must here mention my dear cousin Lucia >> Kilby of Sperryville who coordinated this with Mike Lyman. >> >> Now, as I said at the beginning, getting there is half the fun. >> Today, it was nearly all of the fun. Remember, it had been raining >> most of the day, and most of the previous two days before. >> >> The Kilby cemetery is not exactly anywhere anyone would ever find >> it. In fact, it is no where anyone would ever find it. Knowing >> this, Lucia Kilby had arranged for us all to meet at the Slate Mills >> Baptist Church. Finding even that is not an easy task, but we all >> had good directions. >> >> Driving from Culpeper to Slate Mills in a driving rain, not even >> knowing if Lucia would show up or not (the dear lady is in her 80s), >> I arrived ahead of most of the group (nearly all from the local SAR >> chapter, but some from as far away as Fairfax County), and there were >> a few already assembled. To my surprise and delight, this group >> included Dr. Walter B. Kilby, a direct descendant of Leroy Kilby, and >> Lucia's nephew. (Lucia's own children could care less about these >> things, it being deer season.) >> >> The only person who knew how to get to the grave site was Lucia >> Kilby. It's a good thing I have a jeep. >> >> She explained that this grave yard was on private property, and that >> we had to go through several gates and up a hill which has no road to >> get to it. That was an understatement. >> >> Thankfully, it had quit raining. >> >> Since we were still waiting for others, It was decided to take an >> advance convoy of three vehicles, including Mike Lyman's van with all >> of the appurtenances for the ceremoney, and come back for the others >> later. >> >> With Craig and Lucia in the lead, in my jeep, we wound our way >> through some back roads, arrived at the farm in question, and >> proceeded along. At this point, Lucia's memory got a little foggy on >> just where the grave yard was. Not where it was, but how to get to >> it. She hadn't been there in years. (She, in fact, is the one who >> discovered it umpteen years ago.) >> >> So, not seeing any viable way to get up that hill, she said we should >> just drive through the ladies' yard and go around it, and then up the >> hill. Which, after another gate, we did. >> >> Definitely time to put the jeep in 4-wheel drive mode. >> >> To my surprise, Mike Lyman's van actually made it up that mud, >> slippery hill. But there was one more hill to go, and poor Mike's >> van just didn't make it that far. Lucia and I proceeded and finally >> spotted the serene, hill top, iron fenced graveyard. >> >> There, we were first greet by two donkeys, followed very shortly >> afterwards by about 20 wet and very curious horses, ponies and >> colts. Did we bring food? >> >> The third vehicle in the caravan, also a jeep, came up a bit later, >> informing us that the old ladies who lived there did NOT appreciate >> our driving through their yard. Didn't we see the gate we had passed >> to be used for that purpose? (Obviously, we did not.) >> >> Alright, after much shuttling back and forth, about 20 people and 20 >> equines gathered around the grave of Leroy Kilby for a very elaborate >> ceremony to mark the grave of Private Leroy Kilby, who spent all of >> six weeks at Camp Selden. (We are not sure where that was, but it >> was probably on the Potomac River to guard against British man-o-wars >> coming upstream to burn down Washington and Baltimore. As we all >> know, that was not a success.) >> >> And, I must add, just as the ceremony began, the sun came out in >> brilliant display. Dr. Kilby unveiled the marker, taps was played, >> prayers were said, and, well, it was just a most remarkable day for >> one and all. >> >> So, here ends my brief story of one day in the Piedmont of Virginia. >> >> Who says genealogy is dull? >> >> Yours in History, >> Craig Kilby >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Kathleen Bowen Simons > Falls Church, Virginia > > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. > Community. Service. > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > messages!) > > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick > C. 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Thanks for sharing this journey, Craig. Regarding the chancery record - my understanding is all of them have been sent to Library of VA to be scanned. Donna Boyd, the president of the Culpeper Genealogy Society coordinated it. It took months upon months for her and other volunteers to open them, place all sheets in order and to go through and index names involved. I did some of them when I stayed with Donna the year before last (or was it the year prior to that? Hmmm) when I was in Culpeper for the Germanna Reunion. The completed project has been at LVA for a longgg time. Once they are all scanned, I would think the originals would d be returned to Culpeper but am not sure. I will call Donna tomorrow to see if I can get some details and a status. Kathleen On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto@earthlink.net> wrote: > Dear Listers: > > In the many years I have been doing genealogical research, today must > rank among one of the most memorable ever. Not all things have to do > with court houses. They sometimes have to do with cemeteries, and on > very special occasions, they have to do with ceremonies for soldiers > past. Since getting there is half the fun, please allow me to share > a most enjoyable day. > > It all started over a year ago, when Mike Lyman, a fellow SAR > compatriot of the Richard Henry Lee Chapter in Lancaster County, > Virginia, and past President of the Virginia Society War of 1812 > Virginia, came into the Mary Ball Museum & Library to donate his > latest work, "Location of War of 1812 Veteran Graves in Virginia" I > told him I knew of a grave I bet he didn't. He was all ears. I told > him about the Kilby family grave yard at Slate Mills in Rappahannock > County, where lies Private Leroy Kilby (1785-1859). > > Fast forward to today. I drove up yesterday (Friday) to do some > research for a client at the Culpeper Court House. (If anybody knows > where the MISSING "Foushee vs. Foushee's Executor" chancery suit, > settled in 1845, has gone to, please let me know. It contains the > will of one Thornton Foushee whose will was recorded in MISSING Will > Book "M".) > > I had not been to Culpeper for any length of time in at last ten > years. I must say, the downtown is quite a hopping little place for > night life. I had a wonderful mug of "Crab Swiss Fondue" soup at > "The Pub" on East Davis, which is in a basement off of an alley, and > is the site of the old Culpeper County jail, where my poor old great- > great uncle Joseph Kilby died while there in 1845. He was > incarcerated for bad debts relating to questionable horse dealing. I > toasted him in front of the roaring wood burning fireplace. I'm sure > it was all just a minor misunderstanding. (When I relayed this story > to the staff, I was informed the place is very much haunted.) > > But the thrust of this trip was all about today. > > Today began with intermitment rains, and did not bode well for any > outdoor activities. To start the day, however, was an in-door > meeting of the Culpeper Minutemen Chapter of the SAR here at the Best > Western Hotel where I am staying and from which I write this account. > > My local SAR chapter apparently does nothing by the rule book. We > are simply a social organization that meets for cocktails at 11:30 > a.m., have a nice lunch and a good speaker, and go home. Always a > good crowd, and that is all I thought it was supposed to be. > > Let me tell, when I walked in I saw half of the people there in > period costume, including Mike Lyman, who had told me in advance that > I would learn what a "real" SAR meeting is all about, I knew I was in > for something quite different. I'll skip all the formalities here. > As people introduced themselves, I learned that our featured speaker > today was none other than Marc Wheat, President of the Germanna > Memorial Foundation. Now this came as quite a shock as just this > very morning I had been exchanging emails with John Blankenbaker > about the origins of the First Colony. > > A huge pang of guilt also hit me, as I had not renewed my membership > to Germanna in some years. I rectified that immediately! I had > never met Marc in person, and I knew nothing of his professional > background (very impressive), and I was quite eager to hear his > presentation. Unfortunately, most of it was drowned out by a live > band at a birthday party in the next room, and an Evangelical choir > group across the hall. Bad planning on the part of the Best > Western. Marc did a good job of going with the flow, even dancing to > the music at one point. > > These "real" SAR meetings really drag on. Everybody gets an award > for something. > > But, dear reader, if you have stayed with me this far, we get to the > really good part of the day. > > The Society for the War of 1812, under Mike Lyman diligent pursuit of > making this happen, was scheduled for 3:00 at the Kilby Family > Cemetery at Slate Mills. I must here mention my dear cousin Lucia > Kilby of Sperryville who coordinated this with Mike Lyman. > > Now, as I said at the beginning, getting there is half the fun. > Today, it was nearly all of the fun. Remember, it had been raining > most of the day, and most of the previous two days before. > > The Kilby cemetery is not exactly anywhere anyone would ever find > it. In fact, it is no where anyone would ever find it. Knowing > this, Lucia Kilby had arranged for us all to meet at the Slate Mills > Baptist Church. Finding even that is not an easy task, but we all > had good directions. > > Driving from Culpeper to Slate Mills in a driving rain, not even > knowing if Lucia would show up or not (the dear lady is in her 80s), > I arrived ahead of most of the group (nearly all from the local SAR > chapter, but some from as far away as Fairfax County), and there were > a few already assembled. To my surprise and delight, this group > included Dr. Walter B. Kilby, a direct descendant of Leroy Kilby, and > Lucia's nephew. (Lucia's own children could care less about these > things, it being deer season.) > > The only person who knew how to get to the grave site was Lucia > Kilby. It's a good thing I have a jeep. > > She explained that this grave yard was on private property, and that > we had to go through several gates and up a hill which has no road to > get to it. That was an understatement. > > Thankfully, it had quit raining. > > Since we were still waiting for others, It was decided to take an > advance convoy of three vehicles, including Mike Lyman's van with all > of the appurtenances for the ceremoney, and come back for the others > later. > > With Craig and Lucia in the lead, in my jeep, we wound our way > through some back roads, arrived at the farm in question, and > proceeded along. At this point, Lucia's memory got a little foggy on > just where the grave yard was. Not where it was, but how to get to > it. She hadn't been there in years. (She, in fact, is the one who > discovered it umpteen years ago.) > > So, not seeing any viable way to get up that hill, she said we should > just drive through the ladies' yard and go around it, and then up the > hill. Which, after another gate, we did. > > Definitely time to put the jeep in 4-wheel drive mode. > > To my surprise, Mike Lyman's van actually made it up that mud, > slippery hill. But there was one more hill to go, and poor Mike's > van just didn't make it that far. Lucia and I proceeded and finally > spotted the serene, hill top, iron fenced graveyard. > > There, we were first greet by two donkeys, followed very shortly > afterwards by about 20 wet and very curious horses, ponies and > colts. Did we bring food? > > The third vehicle in the caravan, also a jeep, came up a bit later, > informing us that the old ladies who lived there did NOT appreciate > our driving through their yard. Didn't we see the gate we had passed > to be used for that purpose? (Obviously, we did not.) > > Alright, after much shuttling back and forth, about 20 people and 20 > equines gathered around the grave of Leroy Kilby for a very elaborate > ceremony to mark the grave of Private Leroy Kilby, who spent all of > six weeks at Camp Selden. (We are not sure where that was, but it > was probably on the Potomac River to guard against British man-o-wars > coming upstream to burn down Washington and Baltimore. As we all > know, that was not a success.) > > And, I must add, just as the ceremony began, the sun came out in > brilliant display. Dr. Kilby unveiled the marker, taps was played, > prayers were said, and, well, it was just a most remarkable day for > one and all. > > So, here ends my brief story of one day in the Piedmont of Virginia. > > Who says genealogy is dull? > > Yours in History, > Craig Kilby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathleen Bowen Simons Falls Church, Virginia IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. Community. Service. www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' messages!) Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. Simons: http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons

Spinster ladies. I grew up next door to three. Miss Anne, Miss Emma and Miss Ida [names changed to protect the innocent]. Very nice ladies, they'd give us three kids special treats, I have no idea if they were related. Their house was dripping with antiques, tho. Even at my young age it made me drool. Is this a southern thing, or a late- Victorian holdover? Single gentlemen and spinster ladies were quite common back then. Nancy ------- I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. --Daniel Boone On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:45 PM, Craig Kilby wrote: > Eliz > > Glad you enjoyed it. I sure did. > > I never met the old ladies. I didn't put this in the story, but when > driving their yard I asked Lucia just who these "old ladies" were. > She said they were four old ladies, now down to three. I asked, "Are > they sisters?" She said, "Oh, no." I asked, "What do you mean?" > She said, "I never asked, and they never told. If you get my drift." > > HA HA HA > > Craig > > On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote: > >> What a wonderful tale, I sure wish I had been there to see it <G> and >> to see what the old ladies thought of the convoy <G> >> >> >> >> Eliz >> >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Craig Kilby >> <persisto@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> Dear Listers: >>> >>> In the many years I have been doing genealogical research, today >>> must >>> rank among one of the most memorable ever. Not all things have >>> to do >>> with court houses. They sometimes have to do with cemeteries, >>> and on >>> very special occasions, they have to do with ceremonies for soldiers >>> past. Since getting there is half the fun, please allow me to >>> share >>> a most enjoyable day. >>> >>> It all started over a year ago, when Mike Lyman, a fellow SAR >>> compatriot of the Richard Henry Lee Chapter in Lancaster County, >>> Virginia, and past President of the Virginia Society War of 1812 >>> Virginia, came into the Mary Ball Museum & Library to donate his >>> latest work, "Location of War of 1812 Veteran Graves in Virginia" I >>> told him I knew of a grave I bet he didn't. He was all ears. I >>> told >>> him about the Kilby family grave yard at Slate Mills in Rappahannock >>> County, where lies Private Leroy Kilby (1785-1859). >>> >>> Fast forward to today. I drove up yesterday (Friday) to do some >>> research for a client at the Culpeper Court House. (If anybody >>> knows >>> where the MISSING "Foushee vs. Foushee's Executor" chancery suit, >>> settled in 1845, has gone to, please let me know. It contains the >>> will of one Thornton Foushee whose will was recorded in MISSING Will >>> Book "M".) >>> >>> I had not been to Culpeper for any length of time in at last ten >>> years. I must say, the downtown is quite a hopping little place for >>> night life. I had a wonderful mug of "Crab Swiss Fondue" soup at >>> "The Pub" on East Davis, which is in a basement off of an alley, and >>> is the site of the old Culpeper County jail, where my poor old >>> great- >>> great uncle Joseph Kilby died while there in 1845. He was >>> incarcerated for bad debts relating to questionable horse >>> dealing. I >>> toasted him in front of the roaring wood burning fireplace. I'm >>> sure >>> it was all just a minor misunderstanding. (When I relayed this >>> story >>> to the staff, I was informed the place is very much haunted.) >>> >>> But the thrust of this trip was all about today. >>> >>> Today began with intermitment rains, and did not bode well for any >>> outdoor activities. To start the day, however, was an in-door >>> meeting of the Culpeper Minutemen Chapter of the SAR here at the >>> Best >>> Western Hotel where I am staying and from which I write this >>> account. >>> >>> My local SAR chapter apparently does nothing by the rule book. We >>> are simply a social organization that meets for cocktails at 11:30 >>> a.m., have a nice lunch and a good speaker, and go home. Always a >>> good crowd, and that is all I thought it was supposed to be. >>> >>> Let me tell, when I walked in I saw half of the people there in >>> period costume, including Mike Lyman, who had told me in advance >>> that >>> I would learn what a "real" SAR meeting is all about, I knew I >>> was in >>> for something quite different. I'll skip all the formalities here. >>> As people introduced themselves, I learned that our featured speaker >>> today was none other than Marc Wheat, President of the Germanna >>> Memorial Foundation. Now this came as quite a shock as just this >>> very morning I had been exchanging emails with John Blankenbaker >>> about the origins of the First Colony. >>> >>> A huge pang of guilt also hit me, as I had not renewed my membership >>> to Germanna in some years. I rectified that immediately! I had >>> never met Marc in person, and I knew nothing of his professional >>> background (very impressive), and I was quite eager to hear his >>> presentation. Unfortunately, most of it was drowned out by a live >>> band at a birthday party in the next room, and an Evangelical choir >>> group across the hall. Bad planning on the part of the Best >>> Western. Marc did a good job of going with the flow, even >>> dancing to >>> the music at one point. >>> >>> These "real" SAR meetings really drag on. Everybody gets an award >>> for something. >>> >>> But, dear reader, if you have stayed with me this far, we get to the >>> really good part of the day. >>> >>> The Society for the War of 1812, under Mike Lyman diligent >>> pursuit of >>> making this happen, was scheduled for 3:00 at the Kilby Family >>> Cemetery at Slate Mills. I must here mention my dear cousin Lucia >>> Kilby of Sperryville who coordinated this with Mike Lyman. >>> >>> Now, as I said at the beginning, getting there is half the fun. >>> Today, it was nearly all of the fun. Remember, it had been raining >>> most of the day, and most of the previous two days before. >>> >>> The Kilby cemetery is not exactly anywhere anyone would ever find >>> it. In fact, it is no where anyone would ever find it. Knowing >>> this, Lucia Kilby had arranged for us all to meet at the Slate Mills >>> Baptist Church. Finding even that is not an easy task, but we all >>> had good directions. >>> >>> Driving from Culpeper to Slate Mills in a driving rain, not even >>> knowing if Lucia would show up or not (the dear lady is in her 80s), >>> I arrived ahead of most of the group (nearly all from the local SAR >>> chapter, but some from as far away as Fairfax County), and there >>> were >>> a few already assembled. To my surprise and delight, this group >>> included Dr. Walter B. Kilby, a direct descendant of Leroy Kilby, >>> and >>> Lucia's nephew. (Lucia's own children could care less about these >>> things, it being deer season.) >>> >>> The only person who knew how to get to the grave site was Lucia >>> Kilby. It's a good thing I have a jeep. >>> >>> She explained that this grave yard was on private property, and that >>> we had to go through several gates and up a hill which has no >>> road to >>> get to it. That was an understatement. >>> >>> Thankfully, it had quit raining. >>> >>> Since we were still waiting for others, It was decided to take an >>> advance convoy of three vehicles, including Mike Lyman's van with >>> all >>> of the appurtenances for the ceremoney, and come back for the others >>> later. >>> >>> With Craig and Lucia in the lead, in my jeep, we wound our way >>> through some back roads, arrived at the farm in question, and >>> proceeded along. At this point, Lucia's memory got a little >>> foggy on >>> just where the grave yard was. Not where it was, but how to get to >>> it. She hadn't been there in years. (She, in fact, is the one who >>> discovered it umpteen years ago.) >>> >>> So, not seeing any viable way to get up that hill, she said we >>> should >>> just drive through the ladies' yard and go around it, and then up >>> the >>> hill. Which, after another gate, we did. >>> >>> Definitely time to put the jeep in 4-wheel drive mode. >>> >>> To my surprise, Mike Lyman's van actually made it up that mud, >>> slippery hill. But there was one more hill to go, and poor Mike's >>> van just didn't make it that far. Lucia and I proceeded and finally >>> spotted the serene, hill top, iron fenced graveyard. >>> >>> There, we were first greet by two donkeys, followed very shortly >>> afterwards by about 20 wet and very curious horses, ponies and >>> colts. Did we bring food? >>> >>> The third vehicle in the caravan, also a jeep, came up a bit later, >>> informing us that the old ladies who lived there did NOT appreciate >>> our driving through their yard. Didn't we see the gate we had >>> passed >>> to be used for that purpose? (Obviously, we did not.) >>> >>> Alright, after much shuttling back and forth, about 20 people and 20 >>> equines gathered around the grave of Leroy Kilby for a very >>> elaborate >>> ceremony to mark the grave of Private Leroy Kilby, who spent all of >>> six weeks at Camp Selden. (We are not sure where that was, but it >>> was probably on the Potomac River to guard against British man-o- >>> wars >>> coming upstream to burn down Washington and Baltimore. As we all >>> know, that was not a success.) >>> >>> And, I must add, just as the ceremony began, the sun came out in >>> brilliant display. Dr. Kilby unveiled the marker, taps was played, >>> prayers were said, and, well, it was just a most remarkable day for >>> one and all. >>> >>> So, here ends my brief story of one day in the Piedmont of Virginia. >>> >>> Who says genealogy is dull? >>> >>> Yours in History, >>> Craig Kilby >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Eliz Glad you enjoyed it. I sure did. I never met the old ladies. I didn't put this in the story, but when driving their yard I asked Lucia just who these "old ladies" were. She said they were four old ladies, now down to three. I asked, "Are they sisters?" She said, "Oh, no." I asked, "What do you mean?" She said, "I never asked, and they never told. If you get my drift." HA HA HA Craig On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote: > What a wonderful tale, I sure wish I had been there to see it <G> and > to see what the old ladies thought of the convoy <G> > > > > Eliz > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Craig Kilby > <persisto@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Dear Listers: >> >> In the many years I have been doing genealogical research, today must >> rank among one of the most memorable ever. Not all things have to do >> with court houses. They sometimes have to do with cemeteries, and on >> very special occasions, they have to do with ceremonies for soldiers >> past. Since getting there is half the fun, please allow me to share >> a most enjoyable day. >> >> It all started over a year ago, when Mike Lyman, a fellow SAR >> compatriot of the Richard Henry Lee Chapter in Lancaster County, >> Virginia, and past President of the Virginia Society War of 1812 >> Virginia, came into the Mary Ball Museum & Library to donate his >> latest work, "Location of War of 1812 Veteran Graves in Virginia" I >> told him I knew of a grave I bet he didn't. He was all ears. I told >> him about the Kilby family grave yard at Slate Mills in Rappahannock >> County, where lies Private Leroy Kilby (1785-1859). >> >> Fast forward to today. I drove up yesterday (Friday) to do some >> research for a client at the Culpeper Court House. (If anybody knows >> where the MISSING "Foushee vs. Foushee's Executor" chancery suit, >> settled in 1845, has gone to, please let me know. It contains the >> will of one Thornton Foushee whose will was recorded in MISSING Will >> Book "M".) >> >> I had not been to Culpeper for any length of time in at last ten >> years. I must say, the downtown is quite a hopping little place for >> night life. I had a wonderful mug of "Crab Swiss Fondue" soup at >> "The Pub" on East Davis, which is in a basement off of an alley, and >> is the site of the old Culpeper County jail, where my poor old great- >> great uncle Joseph Kilby died while there in 1845. He was >> incarcerated for bad debts relating to questionable horse dealing. I >> toasted him in front of the roaring wood burning fireplace. I'm sure >> it was all just a minor misunderstanding. (When I relayed this story >> to the staff, I was informed the place is very much haunted.) >> >> But the thrust of this trip was all about today. >> >> Today began with intermitment rains, and did not bode well for any >> outdoor activities. To start the day, however, was an in-door >> meeting of the Culpeper Minutemen Chapter of the SAR here at the Best >> Western Hotel where I am staying and from which I write this account. >> >> My local SAR chapter apparently does nothing by the rule book. We >> are simply a social organization that meets for cocktails at 11:30 >> a.m., have a nice lunch and a good speaker, and go home. Always a >> good crowd, and that is all I thought it was supposed to be. >> >> Let me tell, when I walked in I saw half of the people there in >> period costume, including Mike Lyman, who had told me in advance that >> I would learn what a "real" SAR meeting is all about, I knew I was in >> for something quite different. I'll skip all the formalities here. >> As people introduced themselves, I learned that our featured speaker >> today was none other than Marc Wheat, President of the Germanna >> Memorial Foundation. Now this came as quite a shock as just this >> very morning I had been exchanging emails with John Blankenbaker >> about the origins of the First Colony. >> >> A huge pang of guilt also hit me, as I had not renewed my membership >> to Germanna in some years. I rectified that immediately! I had >> never met Marc in person, and I knew nothing of his professional >> background (very impressive), and I was quite eager to hear his >> presentation. Unfortunately, most of it was drowned out by a live >> band at a birthday party in the next room, and an Evangelical choir >> group across the hall. Bad planning on the part of the Best >> Western. Marc did a good job of going with the flow, even dancing to >> the music at one point. >> >> These "real" SAR meetings really drag on. Everybody gets an award >> for something. >> >> But, dear reader, if you have stayed with me this far, we get to the >> really good part of the day. >> >> The Society for the War of 1812, under Mike Lyman diligent pursuit of >> making this happen, was scheduled for 3:00 at the Kilby Family >> Cemetery at Slate Mills. I must here mention my dear cousin Lucia >> Kilby of Sperryville who coordinated this with Mike Lyman. >> >> Now, as I said at the beginning, getting there is half the fun. >> Today, it was nearly all of the fun. Remember, it had been raining >> most of the day, and most of the previous two days before. >> >> The Kilby cemetery is not exactly anywhere anyone would ever find >> it. In fact, it is no where anyone would ever find it. Knowing >> this, Lucia Kilby had arranged for us all to meet at the Slate Mills >> Baptist Church. Finding even that is not an easy task, but we all >> had good directions. >> >> Driving from Culpeper to Slate Mills in a driving rain, not even >> knowing if Lucia would show up or not (the dear lady is in her 80s), >> I arrived ahead of most of the group (nearly all from the local SAR >> chapter, but some from as far away as Fairfax County), and there were >> a few already assembled. To my surprise and delight, this group >> included Dr. Walter B. Kilby, a direct descendant of Leroy Kilby, and >> Lucia's nephew. (Lucia's own children could care less about these >> things, it being deer season.) >> >> The only person who knew how to get to the grave site was Lucia >> Kilby. It's a good thing I have a jeep. >> >> She explained that this grave yard was on private property, and that >> we had to go through several gates and up a hill which has no road to >> get to it. That was an understatement. >> >> Thankfully, it had quit raining. >> >> Since we were still waiting for others, It was decided to take an >> advance convoy of three vehicles, including Mike Lyman's van with all >> of the appurtenances for the ceremoney, and come back for the others >> later. >> >> With Craig and Lucia in the lead, in my jeep, we wound our way >> through some back roads, arrived at the farm in question, and >> proceeded along. At this point, Lucia's memory got a little foggy on >> just where the grave yard was. Not where it was, but how to get to >> it. She hadn't been there in years. (She, in fact, is the one who >> discovered it umpteen years ago.) >> >> So, not seeing any viable way to get up that hill, she said we should >> just drive through the ladies' yard and go around it, and then up the >> hill. Which, after another gate, we did. >> >> Definitely time to put the jeep in 4-wheel drive mode. >> >> To my surprise, Mike Lyman's van actually made it up that mud, >> slippery hill. But there was one more hill to go, and poor Mike's >> van just didn't make it that far. Lucia and I proceeded and finally >> spotted the serene, hill top, iron fenced graveyard. >> >> There, we were first greet by two donkeys, followed very shortly >> afterwards by about 20 wet and very curious horses, ponies and >> colts. Did we bring food? >> >> The third vehicle in the caravan, also a jeep, came up a bit later, >> informing us that the old ladies who lived there did NOT appreciate >> our driving through their yard. Didn't we see the gate we had passed >> to be used for that purpose? (Obviously, we did not.) >> >> Alright, after much shuttling back and forth, about 20 people and 20 >> equines gathered around the grave of Leroy Kilby for a very elaborate >> ceremony to mark the grave of Private Leroy Kilby, who spent all of >> six weeks at Camp Selden. (We are not sure where that was, but it >> was probably on the Potomac River to guard against British man-o-wars >> coming upstream to burn down Washington and Baltimore. As we all >> know, that was not a success.) >> >> And, I must add, just as the ceremony began, the sun came out in >> brilliant display. Dr. Kilby unveiled the marker, taps was played, >> prayers were said, and, well, it was just a most remarkable day for >> one and all. >> >> So, here ends my brief story of one day in the Piedmont of Virginia. >> >> Who says genealogy is dull? >> >> Yours in History, >> Craig Kilby >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

What a wonderful tale, I sure wish I had been there to see it <G> and to see what the old ladies thought of the convoy <G> Eliz On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto@earthlink.net> wrote: > Dear Listers: > > In the many years I have been doing genealogical research, today must > rank among one of the most memorable ever. Not all things have to do > with court houses. They sometimes have to do with cemeteries, and on > very special occasions, they have to do with ceremonies for soldiers > past. Since getting there is half the fun, please allow me to share > a most enjoyable day. > > It all started over a year ago, when Mike Lyman, a fellow SAR > compatriot of the Richard Henry Lee Chapter in Lancaster County, > Virginia, and past President of the Virginia Society War of 1812 > Virginia, came into the Mary Ball Museum & Library to donate his > latest work, "Location of War of 1812 Veteran Graves in Virginia" I > told him I knew of a grave I bet he didn't. He was all ears. I told > him about the Kilby family grave yard at Slate Mills in Rappahannock > County, where lies Private Leroy Kilby (1785-1859). > > Fast forward to today. I drove up yesterday (Friday) to do some > research for a client at the Culpeper Court House. (If anybody knows > where the MISSING "Foushee vs. Foushee's Executor" chancery suit, > settled in 1845, has gone to, please let me know. It contains the > will of one Thornton Foushee whose will was recorded in MISSING Will > Book "M".) > > I had not been to Culpeper for any length of time in at last ten > years. I must say, the downtown is quite a hopping little place for > night life. I had a wonderful mug of "Crab Swiss Fondue" soup at > "The Pub" on East Davis, which is in a basement off of an alley, and > is the site of the old Culpeper County jail, where my poor old great- > great uncle Joseph Kilby died while there in 1845. He was > incarcerated for bad debts relating to questionable horse dealing. I > toasted him in front of the roaring wood burning fireplace. I'm sure > it was all just a minor misunderstanding. (When I relayed this story > to the staff, I was informed the place is very much haunted.) > > But the thrust of this trip was all about today. > > Today began with intermitment rains, and did not bode well for any > outdoor activities. To start the day, however, was an in-door > meeting of the Culpeper Minutemen Chapter of the SAR here at the Best > Western Hotel where I am staying and from which I write this account. > > My local SAR chapter apparently does nothing by the rule book. We > are simply a social organization that meets for cocktails at 11:30 > a.m., have a nice lunch and a good speaker, and go home. Always a > good crowd, and that is all I thought it was supposed to be. > > Let me tell, when I walked in I saw half of the people there in > period costume, including Mike Lyman, who had told me in advance that > I would learn what a "real" SAR meeting is all about, I knew I was in > for something quite different. I'll skip all the formalities here. > As people introduced themselves, I learned that our featured speaker > today was none other than Marc Wheat, President of the Germanna > Memorial Foundation. Now this came as quite a shock as just this > very morning I had been exchanging emails with John Blankenbaker > about the origins of the First Colony. > > A huge pang of guilt also hit me, as I had not renewed my membership > to Germanna in some years. I rectified that immediately! I had > never met Marc in person, and I knew nothing of his professional > background (very impressive), and I was quite eager to hear his > presentation. Unfortunately, most of it was drowned out by a live > band at a birthday party in the next room, and an Evangelical choir > group across the hall. Bad planning on the part of the Best > Western. Marc did a good job of going with the flow, even dancing to > the music at one point. > > These "real" SAR meetings really drag on. Everybody gets an award > for something. > > But, dear reader, if you have stayed with me this far, we get to the > really good part of the day. > > The Society for the War of 1812, under Mike Lyman diligent pursuit of > making this happen, was scheduled for 3:00 at the Kilby Family > Cemetery at Slate Mills. I must here mention my dear cousin Lucia > Kilby of Sperryville who coordinated this with Mike Lyman. > > Now, as I said at the beginning, getting there is half the fun. > Today, it was nearly all of the fun. Remember, it had been raining > most of the day, and most of the previous two days before. > > The Kilby cemetery is not exactly anywhere anyone would ever find > it. In fact, it is no where anyone would ever find it. Knowing > this, Lucia Kilby had arranged for us all to meet at the Slate Mills > Baptist Church. Finding even that is not an easy task, but we all > had good directions. > > Driving from Culpeper to Slate Mills in a driving rain, not even > knowing if Lucia would show up or not (the dear lady is in her 80s), > I arrived ahead of most of the group (nearly all from the local SAR > chapter, but some from as far away as Fairfax County), and there were > a few already assembled. To my surprise and delight, this group > included Dr. Walter B. Kilby, a direct descendant of Leroy Kilby, and > Lucia's nephew. (Lucia's own children could care less about these > things, it being deer season.) > > The only person who knew how to get to the grave site was Lucia > Kilby. It's a good thing I have a jeep. > > She explained that this grave yard was on private property, and that > we had to go through several gates and up a hill which has no road to > get to it. That was an understatement. > > Thankfully, it had quit raining. > > Since we were still waiting for others, It was decided to take an > advance convoy of three vehicles, including Mike Lyman's van with all > of the appurtenances for the ceremoney, and come back for the others > later. > > With Craig and Lucia in the lead, in my jeep, we wound our way > through some back roads, arrived at the farm in question, and > proceeded along. At this point, Lucia's memory got a little foggy on > just where the grave yard was. Not where it was, but how to get to > it. She hadn't been there in years. (She, in fact, is the one who > discovered it umpteen years ago.) > > So, not seeing any viable way to get up that hill, she said we should > just drive through the ladies' yard and go around it, and then up the > hill. Which, after another gate, we did. > > Definitely time to put the jeep in 4-wheel drive mode. > > To my surprise, Mike Lyman's van actually made it up that mud, > slippery hill. But there was one more hill to go, and poor Mike's > van just didn't make it that far. Lucia and I proceeded and finally > spotted the serene, hill top, iron fenced graveyard. > > There, we were first greet by two donkeys, followed very shortly > afterwards by about 20 wet and very curious horses, ponies and > colts. Did we bring food? > > The third vehicle in the caravan, also a jeep, came up a bit later, > informing us that the old ladies who lived there did NOT appreciate > our driving through their yard. Didn't we see the gate we had passed > to be used for that purpose? (Obviously, we did not.) > > Alright, after much shuttling back and forth, about 20 people and 20 > equines gathered around the grave of Leroy Kilby for a very elaborate > ceremony to mark the grave of Private Leroy Kilby, who spent all of > six weeks at Camp Selden. (We are not sure where that was, but it > was probably on the Potomac River to guard against British man-o-wars > coming upstream to burn down Washington and Baltimore. As we all > know, that was not a success.) > > And, I must add, just as the ceremony began, the sun came out in > brilliant display. Dr. Kilby unveiled the marker, taps was played, > prayers were said, and, well, it was just a most remarkable day for > one and all. > > So, here ends my brief story of one day in the Piedmont of Virginia. > > Who says genealogy is dull? > > Yours in History, > Craig Kilby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers: In the many years I have been doing genealogical research, today must rank among one of the most memorable ever. Not all things have to do with court houses. They sometimes have to do with cemeteries, and on very special occasions, they have to do with ceremonies for soldiers past. Since getting there is half the fun, please allow me to share a most enjoyable day. It all started over a year ago, when Mike Lyman, a fellow SAR compatriot of the Richard Henry Lee Chapter in Lancaster County, Virginia, and past President of the Virginia Society War of 1812 Virginia, came into the Mary Ball Museum & Library to donate his latest work, "Location of War of 1812 Veteran Graves in Virginia" I told him I knew of a grave I bet he didn't. He was all ears. I told him about the Kilby family grave yard at Slate Mills in Rappahannock County, where lies Private Leroy Kilby (1785-1859). Fast forward to today. I drove up yesterday (Friday) to do some research for a client at the Culpeper Court House. (If anybody knows where the MISSING "Foushee vs. Foushee's Executor" chancery suit, settled in 1845, has gone to, please let me know. It contains the will of one Thornton Foushee whose will was recorded in MISSING Will Book "M".) I had not been to Culpeper for any length of time in at last ten years. I must say, the downtown is quite a hopping little place for night life. I had a wonderful mug of "Crab Swiss Fondue" soup at "The Pub" on East Davis, which is in a basement off of an alley, and is the site of the old Culpeper County jail, where my poor old great- great uncle Joseph Kilby died while there in 1845. He was incarcerated for bad debts relating to questionable horse dealing. I toasted him in front of the roaring wood burning fireplace. I'm sure it was all just a minor misunderstanding. (When I relayed this story to the staff, I was informed the place is very much haunted.) But the thrust of this trip was all about today. Today began with intermitment rains, and did not bode well for any outdoor activities. To start the day, however, was an in-door meeting of the Culpeper Minutemen Chapter of the SAR here at the Best Western Hotel where I am staying and from which I write this account. My local SAR chapter apparently does nothing by the rule book. We are simply a social organization that meets for cocktails at 11:30 a.m., have a nice lunch and a good speaker, and go home. Always a good crowd, and that is all I thought it was supposed to be. Let me tell, when I walked in I saw half of the people there in period costume, including Mike Lyman, who had told me in advance that I would learn what a "real" SAR meeting is all about, I knew I was in for something quite different. I'll skip all the formalities here. As people introduced themselves, I learned that our featured speaker today was none other than Marc Wheat, President of the Germanna Memorial Foundation. Now this came as quite a shock as just this very morning I had been exchanging emails with John Blankenbaker about the origins of the First Colony. A huge pang of guilt also hit me, as I had not renewed my membership to Germanna in some years. I rectified that immediately! I had never met Marc in person, and I knew nothing of his professional background (very impressive), and I was quite eager to hear his presentation. Unfortunately, most of it was drowned out by a live band at a birthday party in the next room, and an Evangelical choir group across the hall. Bad planning on the part of the Best Western. Marc did a good job of going with the flow, even dancing to the music at one point. These "real" SAR meetings really drag on. Everybody gets an award for something. But, dear reader, if you have stayed with me this far, we get to the really good part of the day. The Society for the War of 1812, under Mike Lyman diligent pursuit of making this happen, was scheduled for 3:00 at the Kilby Family Cemetery at Slate Mills. I must here mention my dear cousin Lucia Kilby of Sperryville who coordinated this with Mike Lyman. Now, as I said at the beginning, getting there is half the fun. Today, it was nearly all of the fun. Remember, it had been raining most of the day, and most of the previous two days before. The Kilby cemetery is not exactly anywhere anyone would ever find it. In fact, it is no where anyone would ever find it. Knowing this, Lucia Kilby had arranged for us all to meet at the Slate Mills Baptist Church. Finding even that is not an easy task, but we all had good directions. Driving from Culpeper to Slate Mills in a driving rain, not even knowing if Lucia would show up or not (the dear lady is in her 80s), I arrived ahead of most of the group (nearly all from the local SAR chapter, but some from as far away as Fairfax County), and there were a few already assembled. To my surprise and delight, this group included Dr. Walter B. Kilby, a direct descendant of Leroy Kilby, and Lucia's nephew. (Lucia's own children could care less about these things, it being deer season.) The only person who knew how to get to the grave site was Lucia Kilby. It's a good thing I have a jeep. She explained that this grave yard was on private property, and that we had to go through several gates and up a hill which has no road to get to it. That was an understatement. Thankfully, it had quit raining. Since we were still waiting for others, It was decided to take an advance convoy of three vehicles, including Mike Lyman's van with all of the appurtenances for the ceremoney, and come back for the others later. With Craig and Lucia in the lead, in my jeep, we wound our way through some back roads, arrived at the farm in question, and proceeded along. At this point, Lucia's memory got a little foggy on just where the grave yard was. Not where it was, but how to get to it. She hadn't been there in years. (She, in fact, is the one who discovered it umpteen years ago.) So, not seeing any viable way to get up that hill, she said we should just drive through the ladies' yard and go around it, and then up the hill. Which, after another gate, we did. Definitely time to put the jeep in 4-wheel drive mode. To my surprise, Mike Lyman's van actually made it up that mud, slippery hill. But there was one more hill to go, and poor Mike's van just didn't make it that far. Lucia and I proceeded and finally spotted the serene, hill top, iron fenced graveyard. There, we were first greet by two donkeys, followed very shortly afterwards by about 20 wet and very curious horses, ponies and colts. Did we bring food? The third vehicle in the caravan, also a jeep, came up a bit later, informing us that the old ladies who lived there did NOT appreciate our driving through their yard. Didn't we see the gate we had passed to be used for that purpose? (Obviously, we did not.) Alright, after much shuttling back and forth, about 20 people and 20 equines gathered around the grave of Leroy Kilby for a very elaborate ceremony to mark the grave of Private Leroy Kilby, who spent all of six weeks at Camp Selden. (We are not sure where that was, but it was probably on the Potomac River to guard against British man-o-wars coming upstream to burn down Washington and Baltimore. As we all know, that was not a success.) And, I must add, just as the ceremony began, the sun came out in brilliant display. Dr. Kilby unveiled the marker, taps was played, prayers were said, and, well, it was just a most remarkable day for one and all. So, here ends my brief story of one day in the Piedmont of Virginia. Who says genealogy is dull? Yours in History, Craig Kilby

If anyone is interested in the Eltonhead lineage of the five Eltonhead sisters who came to Maryand and Virginia with associated lines and their children and their generations including Fenwick, Conway, Corbin, Lee, Washington, Carter, Taylor, Wormeley, Lee,  Madison, etc  and many others, I can give you an attachment off list if you contact me personally. The volume consists of 559 pages. It is  very good with many extending lines. I descend from Richard Eltonhead and Anne Sutton's daughter Martha Eltonhead that married Edwin Conway. Marianne Dillow

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deejohnson555 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.culpeper/2761.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Colleen, Boy, it's been years since I first contacted you! That explains why Thomas talked about Mary taking care of his son, William in his will. He was blind. Now, I know he wasn't her son. Hope you find the mother of George. If I run across anything I'll let you know. Take care, Denise Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: schneiderhome Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.culpeper/2761.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for clearing some of this up...from your information Mary Kelly must be the second wife also of Thomas Kelly, because some of the children were born before the marriage date...in fact Thomas' son George married Jane Field in 1803. I think I am going to have to start over with a fresh eye! Thanks for the maiden name of Mary Kelly, but now I know she can't be the mother of my George. Colleen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deejohnson555 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.culpeper/2761.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Colleen, Someone on Ancestry who is researching the Emmons family indicated James and Mary were married March, 1833 but, they didn't cite their source. She married Thomas Kelly April 28, 1818 and her maiden name was Sisson. His will was probated August 25, 1823. This is definitely the same Mary who married James because the same slaves are named in Thomas' will and in James' 1839 will. The 1850 census shows her as Mary EMMONS and William Kelly (36 and blind) is living with her. What puzzles me is her age is listed as 100! Now, she is listed as "insane" so maybe she gave the wrong age. Otherwise, that would mean she married my gggggrandfather, James when she was 83 and she would have been about 68 when she married Thomas. Strange, huh? I also noticed Thomas mentioned his son George. Was this Jane's husband? Denise Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Jane Field married George Kelly 2/17/1803 minister Frederick Kabler? Culpeper Co James Kelly married Frances Wright 2/17/1805 minister Isham Tatum?? Culpeper Co Thomas Kelly married Kesiah Norman? 2/6/1806? minister William Mason [Baptist] source: Culpeper Co Marriages? 1780-1853? by John Vogt -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 4:11 am Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Jane Field/George Kelly This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: schneiderhome Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.culpeper/2761.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Denise, Was a marriage date ever determined for Mary Kelly and James? All of a sudden Mary Kelly is driving me crazy...I believe she married James after Thomas Kelly died, therefore having the name Mary Kelly, but then did she revert back to the name Mary Kelly after James Emmons died, would that explain her being listed as Mary Kelly on the 1850 census? Just wondering if you can help me out some. Thanks! Colleen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: schneiderhome Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.culpeper/2761.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Denise, Was a marriage date ever determined for Mary Kelly and James? All of a sudden Mary Kelly is driving me crazy...I believe she married James after Thomas Kelly died, therefore having the name Mary Kelly, but then did she revert back to the name Mary Kelly after James Emmons died, would that explain her being listed as Mary Kelly on the 1850 census? Just wondering if you can help me out some. Thanks! Colleen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

=============================================================== The Virginia Herald October 14, 1800 4:2 TO BE RENTED, For a term of ten years or longer, Seven hundred acres of land lying on Flat Run, in the county of Culpeper. Between 2 and 300 are cleared & enclosed, and 10 or 15 acres in timothy meadow. 100 acres of first rate grass land may be converted into as fine meadow as any in the county. The arable land is in good order for wheat, corn, &c. The advantageous situation of this Tract of land to markets is great: Alexandria, City of Washington, Dumfries, and Fredericksburg, are but a short distance off.-If the tenant should prefer grazing the whole tract, it will meet his wishes, as it spontaneously yields abundant pasturage.- It is situated in a healthy and genteel neighborhood, and convenient to several merchant and saw mills. The improvements in buildings being small, any extraordinary expenses in the erection of house accommodations, will be deducted from the rent or paid at the expiration of the term. The subscriber has the reversion of 300 acres of land, adjoining ! the said 700 acres. The Building Improvements on the small tract are extensive, and in good repair.-The two Tracts will be sold on a long credit, for the greater part of the purchase money. If no person should rent or purchase the said lands prior to the 1st day of October ensuing, the subscriber will give liberal wages to an overseer, who can come well recommended for his knowledge in farming and grazing: Or the said land will be given up to the management of a good farmer, on his advancing a proportional capital to carry on the farm in copartnership with the subscriber. For further particulars apply to Mr. Edward Vofs or Mr. Robert Vofs, who live contiguous to the aforesaid lands, or the subscriber in the City of Washington. NICHOLAS VOFS. Sept. 3, 1800 ============================================================== Virginia Herald October 21, 1800 3:2 The Subscriber will SELL, on reasonable terms, A farm eligibly situated in the county of Culpeper. It contains 485 acres, and adjoining land of Mr. Strode & Mrs. Lewis. The improvements are almost new, and consist of good buildings sufficient for the accommodations of a small family; an excellent large stone barn, orchards, meadows, &c. -The situation is beautiful and healthy, the neighborhood agreeable, and the Farm profitable. It is under good enclosures, and a large quantity of wheat is already sown in excellent corn ground. The purchaser may be accommodated with corn and stock of all kinds, with the farm. PHILIP R. THOMPSON October 20,1800 ============================================================= Virginia Herald August 6, 1802 3:3 FOR SALE The subscriber will sell the plantation whereon he now resides containing 700 acres, well adapted to farming on which is a commodious brick dwelling house with all conveniences out houses, barns &c, 150 acres of the tract is good meadow land. Any person may ?? privately for the above land previous to the 29th of ??. If not sold before that day of which public notice will be given it will then be sold at public sale to the highest bidder. --two thirds of the purchase money will be required on the day of sale; on the remaining third a credit of 2 or 3 years will be given at the same time will be offered at public sale at the subscriber's dwelling house, all his stock of horses, cattle, and sheep, 4 yoke of work steers, 3 waggons, a quantity of hay, plantation utensils, sundry articles of household furniture &c. part of the ?? mentioned property will be sold on a credit of four months. I will also sell at private bargain, four valuable young negro men and a young woman! for cash. Mordecai Barbour Culpeper, August 1st, 1802 ===============================================================Virginia Herald Extraordinary. Wednesday, Oct. 26, 1803 2:1 To Merchants!! I will RENT for one year, or during my Life, A House and Lot in the town of Stevensburg. There is a Store Room in the house well fitted for the reception of Goods, a Compting Room adjoining the store, a large dining room and chamber, with two fire places below stairs, four lodging rooms, and a passage with two fire places above stairs; a large garret and two large dry cellars; a large Granary, Kitchen, Stable, Smoke House, and a handsome falling Garden. I have likewise two Lots well enclosed in said town, and some vacant lots, which I will Rent with or separate from the above described Lot.- The stand for business is inferior to none in this place.- the situation is high and remarkably healthy, and commands a fine prospect of the adjacent country, and an extensive view of the mountains. ELIZABETH TALIAFERRO. Stevensburg, Culpeper County, Oct. 20 =============================================================== Virginia Herald Fredericksburg August 24, 1804 1:2 Will be Sold, At Public Auction on Tuesday the 11th of September next, the TRACT OF LAND, consisting of 200 acres, belonging to Nathan Posy, deceased. The Land - adjoining Jonathan Bishop, Russell Vaughan, and Benjamin Gwinn, and is favorably situated for farming, as it is quite level; one third of the tract is under cultivation, is well watered and in good repair. The uncleared part of the Land lies convenient to the farm, and is well qualified to afford a competent supply of good timber either for a tradesman or farmer. There is on the premises, a good Dwelling Kitchen and Barn; with a variety of other convenient Buildings, too tedious to mention. Twelve months credit will be given to the purchaser, from the day of sale. Bond and approved security will be required. For further information, enquire of Jonathan Bishop. Levi Lukins, Jonathan Bishop, Commissioners. Culpeper county, Virginia August 13, 1804 ============================================================== Virginia Herald Fredericksburg March 12, 1805 1:1 Land For Sale. Four-Hundred and sixteen acres of land, in Culpeper county, 8 miles above the Courthouse, on the main road leading from thence over Chester's gap. On this land is a Dwelling House, with two rooms and a passage below, and the same above stairs; with out houses, that are sufficient to accommodate a large family. The land abounds with fine Springs, and has two streams running through it that are sufficient for Saw Mills. On these streams there is a plenty of meadow ground, some of which is now in timothy, the growth is oak and pine.-The pine timber is tall and large, proper for making plank and scantling, situated very near to Grist and Saw Mills. This land is divided into two tracts, and will be sold separate or together as may suit the purchaser. Cash or Negroes will be received in payment; and for a part of the purchase, lands will be taken. For further particulars apply to the subscriber on the premises. ROBERT COWNE February 15, 1805 =============================================================== Virginia Herald Fredericksburg August 20, 1805 3:4 For Sale, A valuable Tract of Land, Lying on the main road leading from Charlottesville to Washington city, and six miles from Culpeper courthouse, containing 868 acres, convenient to a number of fine merchant and saw Mills, the situation pleasant and remarkably healthy, the land level, fertile and well adapted to the production of Indian corn, tobacco, wheat, and other small grain, and is uncommonly well watered, having the north fork of Cedar-run, passing through the center of it, and sixteen bold and never failing springs on it. There is 140 acres of timothy meadow, all of which may be put into nice repair at a very small expense, and a super abundance of large and lofty timber. The improvements are, a dwelling house, three rooms on a floor, a good kitchen, a large barn, two stories high, and other out houses sufficient which are strong and well built. 2200 bearing fruit trees, principally apple; together with all kinds of seed and stone fruits. It is so situated as to ad! mit of being divided onto two convenient and profitable farms, I will sell it entire, or divide it as may be found most convenient and give immediate possession. There is a good chance to seed a large crop of grain on it this fall. I will take Negroes for the full amount of the above land, or to any amount thereof that may suit a purchaser. If the land is not sold by the 20th of October next, it will then be offered to the highest bidder, the sale to take place on the premises. Morton Pannill. Culpeper, August 19, 1805 ============================================================== Virginia Herald Fredericksburg September 6, 1805 1:1 Being about to move to the state of Kentucky, I wish to sell my LEASE, For two lives, in the TAVERN, where I now live and about 180 acres of Land, adjoining; Being on the main road from Culpeper Courthouse to Orange Courthouse, about eight miles from the former, and twelve miles from the latter; near a valuable merchant mill, belonging to John Thom & Co. the place is well calculated for a public house. There is a good Store house, Blacksmith's shop, and Dwelling house for a Smith's family; also, a good House, occupied at present by a shoemaker. Nearly one half of the land is cleared and in good order for farming. A good bargain may be had, and the payment made to suit the purchaser. Reuben Waggoner. Culpeper, August 28th, 1805 ============================================================== Herald Fredericksburg September 10, 1805 1:4 On Monday the 16th of September next, will be offered at Public Sale on the premises, A Valuable Lot, In the town of Georgetown, and county of Culpeper, containing one acre, on which the following improvements -a Dwelling House with two rooms, and a passage below stairs, and three rooms above, a store and counting room annexed; Kitchen and Smoke house. This property will be shewn by Mr. Reuben Pierce of Georgetown, to any person desirous of purchasing it, and will be sold on a credit of seven annual payments from the day of sale. Bonds with good security will be required for the payments, and an undoubted title will be made to the property by Elizabeth Waddell. Germanna, August 2, 1805 ============================================================= Virginia Herald June 17, 1806 3:3 The subscriber offers for sale, the tract of land, whereon he now lives, lying in Culpeper county, within 2 miles of Stevensburg, consisting of 180 acres- 100 acres of said tract is cleared, all the fencing is new, and the whole plantation in good repair and the order immediate for farming. The remainder of the tract is in timber and lies convenient to the farm, and is in every way calculated to suit a tradesman or farmer. The buildings on the premises are all new, consisting of a convenient dwelling house and kitchen, both with stone chimneys: -Also smoke house and barn, with a variety of other convenient buildings too tedious to mention; there is also an orchard of several hundred fruit trees, all grafts of the best kind, quite young and advancing to the highest perfection. Any further description of the place is unnecessary, as no person I suppose will purchase without first viewing the place. Terms of purchasing may be known by applying to the subscriber. Frederick Kobler. June 11th, 1806 =============================================================== Virginia Herald Fredericksburg June 20, 1806 1:1 FOR SALE, A Tract of Land, lying in the county of Culpeper, eight miles above the Courthouse, on the great road leading from Thornton's Gap to Fredericksburg, containing 145 acres; between 50 and 60 of which is cleared and under a good fence, watered with a number of never failing springs of excellent water. This Land is well adapted to the culture of grain of all kinds, and about 3 or 4 acres of excellent meadow might be made with little trouble, the buildings are moderate, consisting of two small dwelling houses in the same yard, with other out houses, stables, &c. About 150 bearing apple trees very thrifty and in nice order, between 5 and 600 peach trees, planted within three years' just beginning to bear, the whole enclosed under a good fence, together with the best collection of fruits in the county, consisting of pears, cherries, and plumbs of different kinds, quinces, damsons, &c.-- There being no house of entertainment on this road within 8 miles below and 10 above, ! and the improvements being immediately on the road side, renders it for a very eligible stand for a tavern; this situation is a genteel neighborhood, high and healthy, commanding an extensive view of the blue ridge. I have also several other tracts of unimproved LAND for sale, lying on the blue ridge, and the smaller mountains contiguous thereto, containing from 100 to 500 acres: the whole of which will be sold low for cash, or exchange for young negroes. For terms apply to the Subscriber living on the premises. GILBERT COMBS June 8th, 1806. ============================================================== Virginia Herald Fredericksburg June 24, 1806 1:1 The Subscriber, OFFERS FOR SALE, THE TRACT OF LAND, Whereon he now lives, living in Culpeper county, within two miles of Stevensburg, consisting of one hundred and eighty acres. -one hundred acres of said tract is cleared, all the fencing is new, and the whole plantation in good repair and fine order immediately for farming. The remainder of the tract is well timbered, and lies convenient to the farm, and is very well calculated to suit a tradesman or farmer. The buildings on the premises are all new, consisting of a convenient dwelling house and kitchen, both with stone chimnies: -also, smoke house and barn with a variety of other convenient buildings too tedious to mention; there is also an Orchard of several hundred fruit trees, all graft? of the best kind, quite young and perfecting and advancing to high perfection. Any further description of this place is quite unnecessary, as no person I suppose will purchase without first seeing the place. Terms of purchasing may be k! nown by applying to the subscriber Frederick Kobler. June 11th, 1806 =============================================================== Virginia Herald June 27, 1806 1:1 For sale, A tract of land, lying in the county of Culpeper, 8 miles above the courthouse, on the great road leading from Thornton's Gap to Fredericksburg, containing 145 acres; between 50 and 60 of which is cleared and under a good fence, watered with a number of never failing springs of excellent water. The land is well adapted to the culture of grain of all kinds, and about 3 or 4 acres of excellent meadow might be made with little trouble, the buildings are moderate, consisting of two small dwelling houses in the same yard, with other out houses, stable, &c. About 150 bearing apple trees very thrifty and in nice order, between 5 and 600 peach trees, planted within three years, just beginning to bear, the whole enclosed under a good fence together with the best collection of fruits in the county, consisting of pears, cherries, and plumbs of all different kinds, quinces, damsons, &c. -There being no house of entertainment on this road within 8 miles below and 10 above, and ! the improvements being immediately on the road side, renders it a very eligible stand for a tavern; this situation is in a genteel neighborhood, high and healthy, commanding an extensive view of the Blue Ridge. I have also several other tracts of unimproved land for sale, lying on the Blue Ridge, and the smallest mountains contiguous thereto, containing from 100 to 500 acres; the whole of which will be sold low for cash, or exchanged for young negroes. For terms apply to the subscriber living on the premises. Gilbert Combs June 8th, 1806 =============================================================== Herald July 22, 1806 3:4 For sale, A farm consisting of about 350 acres of land, one half of which is cleared, well enclosed and in a good state of cultivation, lying on the Beaver Dam fork of Muddy Run, about 5 miles from Culpeper courthouse, and within one and a half miles of two merchant mills. About 70 acres of the above tract is excellent meadow ground, and about 25 acres , whereof now well set in timothy. -The buildings are new and pleasantly situated; the dwelling house two stories high, and calculated to accommodate a large family. -There is also contiguous to the buildings an excellent apple and peach orchard, and various other fruit trees- water is abundant and good. Benjamin Tutt. Culpeper, July 14, 1806. =============================================================== Virginia Herald August 22, 1806 3:4 The subscriber will sell the farm, on which he lives, containing 1050 acres, 300 of which is in wood. This land is well adapted to the growth of wheat, corn, and grass, and lies remarkably well. The improvements consist of a dwelling house, containing 8 rooms, a new kitchen, laundry, servant's house, ice house, stables, and barn. -The payment for this property will be easy, as I will take well secured bonds, negroes, or give long credit on receipt of a fourth of the purchase money. Charles Carter. Culpeper, August 18, 1806.

====================================================== The Virginia Herald September 21, 1798 3:3 For sale, A tract of land, lying in Culpeper county, on Crooked Run, about 10 miles from Culpeper court-house, about the same distance from Madison court-house, and about 12 miles from Orange court-house- containing 500 acres. On this land are a grist and saw mill; also, a new mill house, just raised, (about 40 or 50 yards from the mills) 50 feet long, 32 feet wide, four stories high; the first of good stone, three of wood, well framed and put together and covered with shingles out of the heart of pine. The mill house stands on a solid rock, the walls of the first floor being built from stone blown from the foundation whereon the house stands; the tail race is finished and the head race may be finished, with 6 or 7 hands, in 10 days; a new framed dwelling house, 30 feet long, 18 feet wide, two rooms, a good stone chimney, and a cellar well walled up with good stone, the whole size of the house, with two rooms, a new meat house double studded and finished in the best manner, ! a log'd kitchen with two rooms. About 600 yards from the mill stands a distillery, just finished, 40 feet long, 20 odd feet wide, with three fine new stills, fixed up in the best manner and room for a boiler. One half of the house length ways, has a plank floor for the tubbs, &c. to stand on. The water is conveyed from two excellent springs within 20 steps of the house, which is shaded through out the day, as it stands in very thick woods of large heavy timber, there not being a quarter of an acre of cleared land within 500 yards of the dwelling, which may be worked to great advantage every month of the year, for the water in the house is equally as cool as the water when it comes out of the springs. There is not more than 30 or 40 acres of cleared land on the whole tract; a great part of this land is heavily timbered with red oak, white oak, hickory, and pine, with some locust, and would produce fine tobacco, being very rich, but is broken and stony in some places. There i! s also a very good stone quarry on this land. I can with confidence re commend the mill seat and distillery here as being equal to any in the county, with a sufficiency of water throughout the year. There is no other mill within 4 or 5 miles. The present grist mill gets upwards of 500 bushels of Indian corn toll, per year. The saw mill might also be carried on to great advantage. There are also two small settlements on the land that might be leased out on good terms. I am disposed to give a great bargain. My price is 16,001. (more than one half the sum has lately been expended on the new mill, dwelling house, and distillery) 6,001 in hand, and three equal annual payments for the balance, with interest from the date. If the above property is not disposed of in two months, I will rent it for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years. I wish to sell 12,000 acres of military lands, about one half in the Greenriver county, state of Kentucky, and the rest in the north westside of the Ohio. I will receive lands in Virginia, slaves or good bonds, in payment; or I will give ! 3, 4, and 5 years credit for the principal on receiving interest annually. The taxes on the above land are all paid. Phillip Slaughter. Culpeper, Sept. 19th, 1798 ======================================================== The Virginia Herald October 12, 1798 3:2 For sale, 1000 acres of land in Culpeper county, within 3 miles of Washington, equal in quality to any in that part of the county, on which is a saw mill that will cut in 30 or 40 days, on a good stream; it is calculated for a grist mill to be built adjoining. There is a sufficiency of good poplar, pine and white oak timber on the land to make at least 600,000 feet of plank for which there will be a constant and ready sale. -There are 4 plantations on the tract, on three of which there are tenants; the other is in good farming order, containing upwards of 200 acres of cleared land, 86 of which have been cleared within 12 years past; there is also two tolerable good apple orchards which seldom fail bearing. The buildings may, at a small expense be made very comfortable. I will take for one half the purchase money, lands on Green or Cumberland river, half the balance in young negroes, and for the remainder I will make the payments easy. Jeremiah Strother. October 2d, 1799 =========================================================== The Virginia Herald August 6, 1799 3:2 Land to lease for 12 years. The subscriber wishes to lease for the term above mentioned, about 900 acres of land lying on Mountain Run, Culpeper county, near Messrs. Stone and Slaughter's mill. -Of this land 300 acres are cleared, and under pretty good fencing and no objection would be made to the clearing of 150 acres more, 50 of which is prime tobacco land, and the remaining 100 excellent wheat or corn land. -On this land there is about 100 acres which was formerly cleared and ditched for tobacco, but is now covered in part by a small shrubbery, which with a little labour may be removed, and by opening up the ditches the land may be made to produce as heavy a crop of timothy as any in the county. -Adjoining the tract there is an extensive body of woodland which affords one of the best ranges for cattle and hogs in the county. -A good barn and apple orchard are the only improvements on the land. The subscriber would prefer leasing the whole to one person, but would have no ! objection to divide it into two tenements. -The terms may be known by applying to the subscriber at Mr. Wm. Knox's near the Little Fork Church. Thomas F. Knox. August 3, 1799. ============================================================== The Virginia Herald October 22, 1799 4:4 Valuable lands for sale. The subscriber wishes to dispose of the tract of land whereon he lives, containing 558 acres, lying in Culpeper county near the town of Stevensburg. -It would be tedious to enumerate all the advantages that this land possesses- suffice it to say, that it is well adapted to farming, 40 acres are already in meadow, and 80 acres more may easily be put into meadow, the whole of which may be watered; the uplands are good for wheat, corn, and tobacco. The land is for the most part level, except a beautiful range of hills, commanding an extensive prospect, on which the buildings are placed, consisting of a two story brick house, 36 by 52, neatly finished within, four rooms and a passage on each floor, and a cellar under the whole house laid off in 5 apartments; a smoke house and dairy 12 feet square, a kitchen and laundry 16 by 40, with a well of excellent water at the door; also, a garden of 12 acres, handsomely made into falls fronting the south. The out ! buildings are a distillery 22 by 48, stone walls covered oak shingles, in which are three stills and a boiler; a framed barn, two stories high, 32 feet square, covered with pine heart shingles; a stable, granary, and carriage house, under one roof, 16 by 56- exclusive of several other inferior buildings. This land lies 35 miles from Fredericksburg, and 60 miles from the City of Washington- No situation can be more desirable, being in a most healthy country, possessing the purest air and finest water, and a very agreeable neighborhood. This place is peculiarly favorable to fruit trees, which seldom fail to bear when the fruit in other places is entirely killed. -There is a variety of trees already planted, a great part of which are bearing trees. -It will be unnecessary to give a further description, as any person disposed to purchase will doubtless view the premises, and be satisfied by ocular demonstration. The terms are two thirds to be paid on giving possession, which mi! ght be either this fall or next, as would best suit the purchaser- on the remaining third 12 months would be given. The subscriber would also sell 220 acres of piney land, lying on the Russell Run, in Orange county, all in timber; 6 unimproved lots in the town of Stevensburg, and a lot of about 6 acres lying immediately below the town, on a beautiful eminence. -He would likewise sell a tract of woodland lying in the county of Hampshire, containing 958 acres per patent- situate about 4 miles from the confluence of the north and south branches of the Potomac. Mordecai Barbour. Culpeper, Sept. 22, 1799 =============================================================== The Virginia Herald February 18, 1800 4:1 For sale, Between 5 and 6 hundred acres of land, lying on the river Rappahannock, at Eastham's ford in the county of Culpeper, on the main road leading from Culpeper court-house to Fauquier court-house, 10 miles from the former and 14 from the latter; 40 miles from the town of Fredericksburg, and 60 from the City of Washington and Alexandria. -This tract embraces a variety of soils, suitable to the production of tobacco, corn, wheat, rye, grass, &c. -About 150 acres are cleared, of which two thirds are low grounds -The whole enclosed by good fences, and in good arable order. The building improvements consist of a dwelling house almost new, 38 by 18 feet, three rooms, a passage, and a closet below, two rooms, an entry, and a closet above, with 4 fire places; a very good dairy, smoke house, and kitchen; and a large framed barn 40 by 20 feet, covered with pine shingles. The grounds on which the houses stand is very elevated and commands a beautiful prospect. The whole extent of! this tract is intersected by runs, and watered by lasting springs. -Further particulars will be communicated by the subscriber who lives on the premises. John Pendleton. Culpeper, Jan. 17, 1800. ===============================================================The Virginia Herald February 24, 1800 4:3 A valuable grazing farm for sale, The subscriber wishes to sell his farm in Culpeper county, situated 4 miles from Stevensburg, and 3 below the court-house, containing 478 acres -Between 150 and 200 acres of this land is cleared and in good arable order; the balance is well stocked with timber of various kinds, which renders it very valuable. The soil produces good grain of every kind, but is particularly adapted to grass, of which every year affords an ample specimen. The buildings with some little repairs would be sufficient to accommodate a genteel family, with a well of excellent water in the yard, and several small streams running thro' the land which afford water for the stock in 6 different enclosures. -The subscriber forbears to enumerate the many advantages that might result to a purchaser, under existing circumstances, as that will plainly appear upon examination of the premises, and a knowledge of the terms. -Mr. James Hume, who resides on this farm, will shew it ! to any person wishing to view it, and during the subscriber's absence form Culpeper, Richard Norris, Esq. residing at the court-house, will make known the terms. Will Broadus. February 10, 1800. ============================================================== The Virginia Herald August 5, 1800 1:3 The subscribers are duly authorized by the widow and representatives of French Strother, deceased, to sell that valuable farm whereon the decedent lately lived, in the county of Culpeper near Mount Pony, on the main road leading from Culpeper court-house to Fredericksburg, 4 miles from the former and 38 from the latter, and within 3 miles of Stevensburg. This land binds on Mountain run about 2 miles, has a large proportion of it very valuable low grounds and meadow lands, a considerable quantity of the latter now in timothy grass, and at least 100 acres more might be put into timothy to great advantage. -A dwelling house with 4 rooms and a passage on the lower floor, with 4 fire places below and 3 above stairs, with necessary out houses, and a well of excellent water in the yard. This is considered the best grass farm in the country, and contains about 900 acres. -Daniel F. Strother has 500 acres adjoining the above and formerly a part of the same, the dividing line between ! them not yet marked, which he wished to sell with the above. *crop for sale. The situation where the house stands is exceeded by few in the country for health, with a beautiful prospect of the Blue Ridge and adjacent country. The whole of this tract lies well, the neighborhood is esteemed equal to any in the country. It is needless to be more particular, as any person wishing to make so valuable a purchase will no doubt view the land. For terms enquire of Daniel F. Strother. Philip Slaughter Culpeper, July 22, 1800 =========================================================== The Virginia Herald August 19, 1800 3:4 Land for sale. The subscriber offers for sale that valuable tract of land whereon he now lives, within 2 miles of Culpeper court house, containing between 5 and 6 hundred acres. This land lies on both sides of Mountain run for upwards of a mile, has a large proportion of very valuable low grounds and meadow land, a part now in timothy grass. Also, a very valuable grist mill, the mill house 32 by 24 feet, two stories high, and might, at a small expense, be converted into a merchant mill; the pond of water covers at least 20 acres of land; this mill has been for 30 years past considered as among the best toll mills in the county, being hitherto in a wealthy and thick settled neighborhood. There is a very valuable apple and peach orchard with all kinds of fruit. There is an inexhaustible supply of manure to be had during the summer, out of the mill pond, which could be easily haul'd out, the banks being of a very easy assent, and the fields convenient to the mill. The farm, tog! ether with the mill, might in a few years, be made one of the most delightful, pleasant, and healthy seats in the county, within 42 miles of Fredericksburg, 70 of the Federal City, and 80 of Richmond. Wheat sells within 2 miles, (at the court house) within 6d or 9d per bushel of the Fred'g Market, there being 4 or 5 merchants living at that place. *Land in Kentucky. For further particulars enquire of Philip Clayton. Culpeper, July 27th, 1800. =============================================================== The Virginia Herald August 26, 1800 1:1 Land for sale. I will sell the land whereon I now reside, situated on Cedar run in Culpeper county, 6 miles from the court house, and about 36 miles from Fredericksburg. The tract contains 300 acres, 150 of which is cleared and well inclosed, the balance of the tract abounds in various kinds of valuable timber. The land is of an excellent quality for tobacco and the various kinds of grain, and about 30 acres of it is first rate meadow ground. The improvements on this land consist of a new dwelling constructed for conveniency, and affording a number of spacious rooms and closets, a new kitchen and smoke house, a grainery 28 by 24 feet, with 2 plank floors, under which is a stable affording room for 8 horses, also another stable calculated for the reception of 10 horses and 2 carriages, and a young apple orchard of 150 trees of grafted fruit, selected from the most approved kinds. Also I will sell, 1000 acres lying in Orange county, adjoining the lands of William Morton and La! wrence Taliaferro, esquires; about 250 acres thereof is cleared and well enclosed, 150 acres whereof is low ground of the best quality. This land is esteemed of an excellent quality for wheat, it being impregnated with lime stone, and is excelled by no land for grass. The whole tract lays well for farming, and is uncommonly well watered. There is on this land a quarry of lime stone, with which, at trifling expense, the level land may be brought to as high a degree of improvement as may be necessary for any purpose. The improvements on the land are of but little consequence. This land is distant from Fredericksburg about 30 miles. A more particular description of either tract is deemed unnecessary, as it is presumed any person wishing to purchase would first view the premises. The terms of sale will be made known on application to the subscriber. P. Hansbrough, junr. Cedar run, Culpeper County, 19th August, 1800.

I have posted on my Eltonhead line to others that may descend from it in the past. It also goes to Magna Carta Sureties, La Bigod and De Quincy and Henry II, King of England.. This also leads to the Hickman line in Culpeper County. The line goes to Henry II, King of England: HENRY II, King of England, by a mistress, IDA DE TONY. WILLIAM LONGESPÉE, Knt., Earl of Salisbury, married ELA OF SALISBURY. STEPHEN LONGESPÉE, Knt., of King’s Sutton, Northamptonshire, married EMELINE DE RIDELISFORD. ELA LONGESPÉE, married ROGER LA ZOUCHE, Knt., of Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire. ALAN LA ZOUCHE, Knt., Lord Zouche, married ELEANOR DE SEGRAVE. MAUD LA ZOUCHE, married ROBERT DE HOLAND, Knt., 1st Lord Holand. MAUD DE HOLAND, married THOMAS DE SWINNERTON, Knt., 3rd Lord Swinnerton. ROBERT DE SWINNERTON, Knt., 4th Lord Swinnerton, married ELIZABETH DE BEKE. MAUD SWINNERTON, married JOHN SAVAGE, Knt., of Clifton, Cheshire. MARY SAVAGE, married (as his 1st wife) WILLIAM STANLEY, Esq., of Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire. WILLIAM STANLEY, Esq., of Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire, Stanley, married ALICE HOGHTON (or HOUGHTON). WILLIAM STANLEY, Knt., of Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire, married AGNES GROSVENOR. WILLIAM STANLEY, Knt., Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire, married ANNE HARINGTON. PETER STANLEY, Esq., of Moor Hall (in Aughton), Lancashire, married CECILY TARLETON. ANNE STANLEY, married EDWARD SUTTON, Gent., of Knowsley (in Huyton), Lancashire and Hall House (in Rushton Spencer), Staffordshire. ANNE SUTTON, married RICHARD ELTONHEAD, Gent., of Eltonhead (in Prescot), Lancashire. MARTHA ELTONHEAD, married EDWIN CONWAY, Gent., of Northampton and Lancaster Counties, Virginia........ Eltonhead Conway and Henry Thacker, Sr. The descent goes to: Eltonhead Conway and Henry Thacker, Sr. Martha Thacker and Thomas Hickman Edwin Hickman and Eleanor Elliott i. Edwin Hickman ii. Lettice Hickman iii. James Hickman born 3 Mar 1723/1724 died 16 Apr 1816. Lived in Culpeper County. Marianne Dillow Illinois