Hi June,   Thank you. I have this already but there is no proof to Elizabeth Brocus. I do see  the  Ann Elizabeth Lewis.    This is what I posted today to other mailing lists. I am trying to find these deeds but Spotsylvania wasn't formed until 1720 so the 1711 deed is in another county I guess. But the 1724 deed for Elizabeth should be in Spotsylvania. A deed of 1729 is the first I have found in that county. Here it is :   Would anyone know where I could find this deed ? John Holladay received 400 acres of land. He moved from lower Virginia on Pamusky River to Spotsylvania County ten miles above N. Wales in 1711. His wife, Elizabeth received 400 acres in 1724 in St. George's Parish. I am hoping this might identify Elizabeth.   The earliest land grant I have found is dated 1 Sep 1729: James Taylor of Drysdale Par., Caroline County, to John Holloday of St. George's Parish, 36 curr., 260 acres on the E. side East North East River, part of a pat. granted sd Taylor 21 Jul 1722 in St. George's Parish, Spts. Co. Rec. 1 Apr 1729 Book A in Spotsylvania County..    Also....John Marshall Holladay's son Joseph married Elizabeth " Betty" Lewis daughter of Harry Lewis. Joseph Holladay had a son Lewis who married Elizabeth  (Lewis) Littlepage , widow of Col. James Littlepage. She was a daughter of Zachary Lewis and Mary Waller Lewis according to Hayden. Their son Waller Holladay married Huldah Fontaine Lewis. She is the daughter of Col. Zachary and Ann Overton (Terrill) Lewis.   They lived at Prospect Hill in Spotsylvania Co., Va.    Marianne Dillow    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------    --- On Sat, 1/10/09, cpzb4@aol.com <cpzb4@aol.com> wrote: From: cpzb4@aol.com <cpzb4@aol.com> Subject: [VACULPEP] Holladay To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 7:23 PM I am not related to this family but have a FTM record on John Marshall Holladay, Sr.? John Marshall Holladay Sr born 1676 England married about 1700 died November 4, 1742 in Spots. Co., Virginia. Will dated November 4, probate Dec. 7, 1742. His father was Thomas Holladay and mother Elizabeth Seville. John Marshall Holladay, Sr married Elizabeth Brochs. She was born about 1678? in King Williams Co., VA John Marshall Holladay Sr and Elizabeth Brochs had 9 children: Children born in King Williams Co, VA 1. Elizabeth Holladay married Patterson Pulliam Sr son of William Pulliam Jr & Ann Patterson 2. Wm. H. Holladay born about 1705, died May 16, 1769, married Judith [Judy] abt 1735 3. Jophn Marshall Holladay, Jr born 1708 died April 11, 1781 married 1. Tabitha Collins and 2.Elizabeth Rawlings 4. Daniel Holladay born 1712? died 9/30/1784 in Craven, SC? married abt. 1749 to Agness Matthews 5. Winifred Holladay born 1714, married 1735 to Thomas Pulliam Sr. in Spots. Co., VA NOW....this is where Ann Elizabeth [Betty] Lewis comes in on this record: 6. Joseph Holladay born 1718 died: 7/24/1795 married abt. 1747 to Ann Elizabeth [Betty] Lewis 7. Benjamin Holladay born 1720? died abt. 3/21/1785 married twice: 1. Fanny Susanna Johnson ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 2. Susannah Hickman 1/29/1743/44 8. Sarah Holladay born 1724? died 2/15/1788 in Caroline Co., VA married 10/04/1738 to James Rawlings 9. Susannah Holladay born 1728? died 10/12/1795 in Caroline Co., VA This FTM goes back as far as John Halyday born abt. 1400 in Hampton Manor, Somersetshire, England. ================================================================================ I also found another document stating in John Marshall Holladay Sr.'s will his plantation on East N.E. Creek in the S.W. part of Spots. Co, VA on which he lieved, died and was buried as that on which his great grandson Lewis Holladay lived died and was buried as was his great grandson Lewis Holladay lived died and was buried? and so was Waller his great grandson was born and reared. The site of the dwelling and the graves of John and his wife Elizabeth is several hundred yards from the residence of Lewis H. and of his great grandson Dr. Lewis L.H. before he removed to Orange Co. The latter was called Bellefonte from a fine spring near the dwelling house. Have more but to long for the Culp Co site June ?   

Hopefully this will come through without the garble from copy and pasting. Sorry !   I posted yesterday on my 7th great grandfather John Marshall Holladay and whether his wife was Ann Elizabeth Lewis or Elizabeth Brocus. Apparently no one knows. I thought I would post some extra info to see if it means anything to anyone on the list.   John Marshall Holladay was born 1676 in England and died  and left his will in Spotsylvania dated 4 Nov 1742. His will was proved on 7 Dec 1742.   The will names his son ... William 200 acres of land where Thomas Certain lived; ....son John Holladay 250 acres of land where James Perry, Jr lived; ....son Daniell Holladay 200 acres of land; ...son Joseph Holladay 300 acres of land; ...son Benjamin Holladay 300 acres of land;... daughter Elizabeth wife of Patterson Pulliam ;..... daughter Winnifred wife of Thomas Pulliam (my grandparents); .... daughter Sarah wife of James Rollings (Rawlings); 300 acres of land lying in Caroline County,.... and daughter Susannah Holladay 200 acres of land adjoining Mr. Wyatt's land. Wit : John Waller, Jr.;  John Waller, Thomas Cartwright Ex: Sons Joseph and Benjamin Holladay and son -in-law Thomas Pulliam. At the time of  his death it has been said he owned 4,000 acres of land.   John .Marshall Holladay was Captain of the Virginia Rangers of Spotsylvania County, Va. where he was located in 1702.He lived on East creek in the southwest part of the county where he is buried. His home is referred to Bellefonte. This land is close to the land of Lewis H. Holladay and his great grandson Dr. L. H. Holladay.   John Marshall Holladay's son Joseph married Betty Lewis. One of his descendants is Waller Holladay.  His son Josepjh married Betty Lewis and records indicate he was close to Zachary Lewis, Waller line. In fact one of his descendants is Waller Holladay.   In 1705 John Marshall Holladay owned 200 acres in King William County, Va.   Here are some records:   (1) Date: 22 Feb 1729: Anthony Glostone of Spotsylvania Co., Va and Jane his wife, to Zachary Lewis of same county, 200 acres on S. side Holladay's Swamp-part of pat. granted James Gholstone as by Deeds 6 Jul 1725.. 1 April 1740, Book C.   (2) John Holladay received 400 acres of land. Moved from lower Virginia on Pamusky R. to Spts. Co., Va. ten miles above N. wales in 1711.. very important... His wife Elizabeth received 400 acres in 1724 in St. George Parish. I have tryed to find this record without any sucess.   (3) Spotsylvania Co., Va Records Will Book B 1749-1759:   James Rawlings died 9 Apr 1757; proven 7 June 1757: St. George's Parish Wit: John, James and Sarah Pulliam Ex: James Rawlings, land in Spts. Co., adjoining Zachary Lewis, Thomas Pulliam, and Colo. Thomas Moor, daughter Hannah Gimber. land in Spts. Co. adjoining that of her brother James. It being land of Henry Chiles, daughter Martha Gains, land in Spts. Co.; daughter Elizabrth Holladay.   I am hoping this means something to someone and hopefully they can add to it. I guess one thing that stands out who were the Lewis' family in King William County, Va in the early 1700's where John and Elizabeth held land before they moved to Spotsylvania Co., Va. and the family of Zachary Lewis.   Marianne Dillow Illinois

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Apparently no one knows. I thought I would post some extra info to see if it means anything to anyone on the list.   John Marshall Holladay was born 1676 in England and died  and left his will in Spotsylvania dated 4 Nov 1742. His will was proved on 7 Dec 1742.   The will names his son ... William 200 acres of land where Thomas Certain lived; ....son John Holladay 250 acres of land where James Perry, Jr lived; ....son Daniell Holladay 200 acres of land; ...son Joseph Holladay 300 acres of land; ...son Benjamin Holladay 300 acres of land;... daughter Elizabeth wife of Patterson Pulliam ;..... daughter Winnifred wife of Thomas Pulliam (my grandparents); .... daughter Sarah wife of James Rollings (Rawlings); 300 acres of land lying in Caroline County,.... and daughter Susannah Holladay 200 acres of land adjoining Mr. Wyatt's land. Wit : John Waller, Jr.;  John Waller, Thomas Cartwright Ex: Sons Joseph and Benjamin Holladay and son -in-law Thomas Pulliam. At the time of  his death it has been said he owned 4,000 acres of land.   John .Marshall Holladay was Captain of the Virginia Rangers of Spotsylvania County, Va. where he was located in 1702.He lived on East creek in the southwest part of the county where he is buried. His home is referred to Bellefonte. This land is close to the land of Lewis H. Holladay and his great grandson Dr. L. H. Holladay.   John Marshall Holladay's son Joseph married Betty Lewis. One of his descendants is Waller Holladay.  His son Josepjh married Betty Lewis and records indicate he was close to Zachary Lewis, Waller line. In fact one of his descendants is Waller Holladay.   In 1705 John Marshall Holladay owned 200 acres in King William County, Va.   Here are some records:   (1) Date: 22 Feb 1729: Anthony Glostone of Spotsylvania Co., Va and Jane his wife, to Zachary Lewis of same county, 200 acres on S. side Holladay's Swamp-part of pat. granted James Gholstone as by Deeds 6 Jul 1725.. 1 April 1740, Book C.   (2) John Holladay received 400 acres of land. Moved from lower Virginia on Pamusky R. to Spts. Co., Va. ten miles above N. wales in 1711.. very important... His wife Elizabeth received 400 acres in 1724 in St. George Parish. I have tryed to find this record without any sucess.   (3) Spotsylvania Co., Va Records Will Book B 1749-1759:   James Rawlings died 9 Apr 1757; proven 7 June 1757: St. George's Parish Wit: John, James and Sarah Pulliam Ex: James Rawlings, land in Spts. Co., adjoining Zachary Lewis, Thomas Pulliam, and Colo. Thomas Moor, daughter Hannah Gimber. land in Spts. Co. adjoining that of her brother James. It being land of Henry Chiles, daughter Martha Gains, land in Spts. Co.; daughter Elizabrth Holladay.   I am hoping this means something to someone and hopefully they can add to it. I guess one thing that stands out who were the Lewis' family in King William County, Va in the early 1700's where John and Elizabeth held land before they moved to Spotsylvania Co., Va. and the family of Zachary Lewis.   Marianne Dillow Illinois

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I will try this one more time and hopefullty the garble from copy and pasting will not come through. My 5th great grandparents are Moses Cushenberry and wife Ann unknown. Moses was born ca 1720-1740. He was from Virginia. He was in Kentucky in Fayette and Bourbon counties as early as 1783. He died in Bourbon Co., Ky in 1792 where he left his inventory. The Cushenberry name has been spelled several ways in records in Kentucky. Moses settled in the Limestone area in the town of Washington and Licking Creek and the land eventually became Mason Co., Ky although it was in Fayette and Bourbon counties when Moses lived there. It is believed Moses was a part of the Virginia Quisenbery family and possibly a brother to Aaron Quisenberry, Sr. son of Humphrey Quisenberry or Humphrey's brother William Quisenberry although I am still looking for a record to prove it. Below is relationships that shows the Quisenberry family and intermarriages and the Traveling Church were known to my Moses Quisenberry that died 1792 in Bourbon Co., Ky. Moses and Ann's children are: (1) John Cushenberry married Rebecca Dowden10 Dec 1791. (2) William Cushenberry... had a daughter Rachel who married Richard Brown. (3) Elijah Cusenberry married Polly unknown..... their daughter Obedience married (i) Johnson Ellis, (ii) Johnson J. Cockerell. (4) Vincent Cushenberry m. Mary Davis dau of William Davis 4 May 1791 in Bourbon Co., Ky.. (5) Daniel Cushenberry m. Sally Davis dau of William Davis. (6) Mary Cushenberry m. Nicholas Lindsay. (70 Elizabeth Cushenberry m. Zachariah Ross. (8) Anna Cushenberry m. Vachel Lindsay. (9) Rachel Cushenberry m. John F. Pullin (Pulliam). In Fayette County, Ky. Moses sons William and Elijah Cushenbery bought land from Rev. Lewis Craig and bounded by William Robinson of "The Traveling Church". The Fayette Co., Ky Tax List A as an example shows on 8 June 1787 my "Moses Coosenberry" next to Rawleigh Chinn and Smith Darnell on each side of him with John Tandy on down on that date. John Quisenberry was also in Fayette Co., Va in a 1788 deed bounded by Thomas Burris and Robert McMillion and the record was acknowledged in Orange Co., Va as well as in Ky. Also Rev. James Quisenberry was in Fayette Co., Ky son of Aaron Quisenberry and Joyce Dudley. He was born 1759 in Spotsylvania Co., Va and died in Clark Co., Ky in 1830. He m. 1st Jane Burris dau of Thomas Burris and Frances Tandy and 2nd to Chloe Shipp. My Moses Cushenberry's children moved on to Warren Co., Ky and Allen Co., Ky formed from Warren County. Aaron Quisenberry was also in the 1820 Warren County records. He is the grandson of Aaron Quisenberry and Joyce Dudley. My Moses Cushenberry son Elijah m. dau Obedience m. Johnson Ellis 31 Jan 1804 in Fayette Co., Ky. Johnson Ellis died 1814 in Warren Co., Ky. Elijah Cushenberry named a son Neil McCann. It should be noted that the family of Hezekiah Ellis and Mildred Burbridge had a dau who m. Joseph McCann and a dau Sarah who m. O'Neal McCann. Mildred m. 2nd to Benjamin Robinson. Also Sallie Ellis married Aaron Quisenberry whose first wife was Rachel Shelton. The Kentuckian-Citizen, Paris, Ky dated 22 Jan 1946 states" The McCann's Joseph and Neal were brothers of "Grandmother Cusenberry." We also have a Dudley Robinson who married into my Cushenberry family in Ky. Moses Quisenbery son of Aaron and Joyce Dudley was confused with my Moses Cushenberry for several years. But my Moses was older born ca 1720-1740 time frame as he died in 1792. So in my rsearch which started in the 1980's on Moses Cushenberry continues. If anyone can contribute to what I have it would be very much appreciated as the people named and the relationships are rather suspicious. :) Marianne Dillow

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Moses was born ca 1720-1740. He was from Virginia. He was in Kentucky in Fayette and Bourbon counties as early as 1783. He died in Bourbon Co., Ky in 1792 where he left his inventory. The Cushenberry name has been spelled several ways in records in Kentucky. Moses settled in the Limestone area in the town of Washington and Licking Creek and the land eventually became Mason Co., Ky although it was in Fayette and Bourbon counties when Moses lived there. It is believed Moses was a part of the Virginia Quisenbery family and possibly a brother to Aaron Quisenberry, Sr. son of Humphrey Quisenberry or Humphrey's brother William Quisenberry although I am still looking for a record to prove it. Below is relationships that shows the Quisenberry family and intermarriages and the Traveling Church were known to my Moses Quisenberry that died 1792 in Bourbon Co., Ky. Moses and Ann's children are: (1) John Cushenberry married Rebecca Dowden10 Dec 1791. (2) William Cushenberry... had a daughter Rachel who married Richard Brown. (3) Elijah Cusenberry married Polly unknown..... their daughter Obedience married (i) Johnson Ellis, (ii) Johnson J. Cockerell. (4) Vincent Cushenberry m. Mary Davis dau of William Davis 4 May 1791 in Bourbon Co., Ky.. (5) Daniel Cushenberry m. Sally Davis dau of William Davis. (6) Mary Cushenberry m. Nicholas Lindsay. (70 Elizabeth Cushenberry m. Zachariah Ross. (8) Anna Cushenberry m. Vachel Lindsay. (9) Rachel Cushenberry m. John F. Pullin (Pulliam). In Fayette County, Ky. Moses sons William and Elijah Cushenbery bought land from Rev. Lewis Craig and bounded by William Robinson of "The Traveling Church". The Fayette Co., Ky Tax List A as an example shows on 8 June 1787 my "Moses Coosenberry" next to Rawleigh Chinn and Smith Darnell on each side of him with John Tandy on down on that date. John Quisenberry was also in Fayette Co., Va in a 1788 deed bounded by Thomas Burris and Robert McMillion and the record was acknowledged in Orange Co., Va as well as in Ky. Also Rev. James Quisenberry was in Fayette Co., Ky son of Aaron Quisenberry and Joyce Dudley. He was born 1759 in Spotsylvania Co., Va and died in Clark Co., Ky in 1830. He m. 1st Jane Burris dau of Thomas Burris and Frances Tandy and 2nd to Chloe Shipp. My Moses Cushenberry's children moved on to Warren Co., Ky and Allen Co., Ky formed from Warren County. Aaron Quisenberry was also in the 1820 Warren County records. He is the grandson of Aaron Quisenberry and Joyce Dudley. My Moses Cushenberry son Elijah m. dau Obedience m. Johnson Ellis 31 Jan 1804 in Fayette Co., Ky. Johnson Ellis died 1814 in Warren Co., Ky. Elijah Cushenberry named a son Neil McCann. It should be noted that the family of Hezekiah Ellis and Mildred Burbridge had a dau who m. Joseph McCann and a dau Sarah who m. O'Neal McCann. Mildred m. 2nd to Benjamin Robinson. Also Sallie Ellis married Aaron Quisenberry whose first wife was Rachel Shelton. The Kentuckian-Citizen, Paris, Ky dated 22 Jan 1946 states" The McCann's Joseph and Neal were brothers of "Grandmother Cusenberry." We also have a Dudley Robinson who married into my Cushenberry family in Ky. Moses Quisenbery son of Aaron and Joyce Dudley was confused with my Moses Cushenberry for several years. But my Moses was older born ca 1720-1740 time frame as he died in 1792. So in my rsearch which started in the 1980's on Moses Cushenberry continues. If anyone can contribute to what I have it would be very much appreciated as the people named and the relationships are rather suspicious. :) Marianne Dillow

John Hallett Clark lll , 90, born Oct. 31, 1918 in Bristol, VA, son of John H Clark Jr. and Shirley Winston of Bristol, d 7 Jan. 2009. "He was a direct descendant of Alexander Spotswood, the first territorial Gov. of VA" Obit in the Courier-Journal, pg B-4 Col:3,4,5, Thursday Jan. 8. As we hear so much about Spotswood I thought this would prove interesting to any Clark's doing research of the family.

>>............................. 4 William Williams 1725 - 1770 b: Bet. 1725 - 1735 in St. George's Par., Spotsylvania --Of Cedar Farm, Culpeper Co., Va. d: Abt. 1770 in Culpeper Co., Virginia ................................. +Lucy Clayton 1720 - 1775 b: Abt. 1720 in of "Catalpa", Culpeper Co., VA. d: Aft. 1775 << Hi Charlene, I don't know if I can help with this entry or confuse it more trying. There was a Lucy Clayton "b. abt 1720" in Essex Co., who was a sister of old mjr. Philip Clayton 1712 (or 1702 if you prefer) -1786 Culpeper. She married James Jones. The Lucy Clayton who married Wm.Wms. is old mjr Philip's daughter. Eldest daughter I'm supposing because he always names his three children in the order Lucy, Samuel, & Susannah. (I descend from Samuel.) Susannah b. 1740 according to a DAR record, in 1756 also acc. to a DAR record ~married Col. James Slaughter 1732-1799. The way I had figured it Lucy was born abt 1737, Sam 1738, & Susannah 1740. 1738 for my Sam because in 1759 when he would probably become of age, oldmjrPhilip (Culpeper Deed Bk C, p239-241) turned over the land and stuff he (Sam) already had in his possession and lived upon. Made me think this was the earliest this could be accomplished legally, while it probably was a practical fact for a couple of years prior. (I have this cryptic source which reads "11T187 p 418" tacked onto Sam's marriage date of 12 Jul 1757 to his cousin Ann Coleman. I'm afraid at this moment I have no idea what that's from, maybe the bk: "Married Well and Often" from Google's recently digitized books. I have 18 Aug 1736 Essex County, Va. for old mjr Philip & Ann Coleman. Unbelieveably, I did not record the source. Or it inexplicably vanished. All I know is I came across it in the past year or so and remember being pleased to think it fit my guessimates of Lucy, Sam & Susannah's ages. [OK Go ahead & laugh Craig ~ I *really* do need to go thru my very own family, person by person, date by date, since the greater part of this was done in 1994 before any bks/databases/corroborating evidence came on line] I have 1778 for the death date of Wm. Wms. I'm guessing he was born abt 1730. He and Lucy were married before 15 Jan 1752 and their first son John, Mjr. in the Rev, was born in 1753. (Their last child Philip Williams, who became the court clerk of Shenandoah county, was born in 1770.)

I have a partial record of a Thomas Coleman that pertains to his  Rev War service in case anyone needs it :   Rev War Pension :   Thomas Coleman Aug 1832 Barren Co., Ky. Deposition by Annis Pulliam :   " 27 Nov 1832 Allen Co., Ky.... Annis Pulliam (X mark) Pulliam said county declares she and Thomas Coleman of Barren County, Ky. now deceased were raised as children together in Culpeper County, Virginia. Coleman served in the Revolutionary War. She recollects he was gone a long time."   Annis  (Ann) Pulliam is the daughter of Richard Parks and Mary Graves. She married John Francis Pulliam son of Thomas Pulliam and Frances Boswell. These are my grandparents that were in Culpeper and some of the family moved to Warren  County, Ky. and Allen County formed from it. The families were in Spotsylvania before Culpeper.   Marianne Dillow

I am going to leave the list for awhile, as I just received a very hostile and nasty private message from a member, attacking me for a politics-related post which, it turns out, I did not write at all [another member named Nancy did]. As I am dealing with some serious health issues at the moment, I do not need this kind of stuff intruding on my life. If I wanted political battles, I'd join a political online group. best, Nancy ------- I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. --Daniel Boone

We will miss you! Come back when at all possible. We need good researchers, and the best to you in the meantime, with all health issues! Carolyn Lundgren Professional Genealogical Services (Email for Details) lundgren@xmission.com -----Original Message----- From: vaculpep-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vaculpep-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marianne dillow Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:01 PM To: vaculpep@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] the list I am sorry to hear this. I have seen your postings many times and have always considered you to be a very good researcher.  I wish you the best. :)   Marianne Dillow   --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Sunshine49 <shengirl@verizon.net> wrote: From: Sunshine49 <shengirl@verizon.net> Subject: [VACULPEP] the list To: vaculpep@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 12:50 PM I am going to leave the list for awhile, as I just received a very hostile and nasty private message from a member, attacking me for a politics-related post which, it turns out, I did not write at all [another member named Nancy did]. As I am dealing with some serious health issues at the moment, I do not need this kind of stuff intruding on my life. If I wanted political battles, I'd join a political online group. best, Nancy ------- I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. --Daniel Boone   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.4/1880 - Release Date: 1/7/2009 8:49 AM

I am sorry to hear this. I have seen your postings many times and have always considered you to be a very good researcher.  I wish you the best. :)   Marianne Dillow   --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Sunshine49 <shengirl@verizon.net> wrote: From: Sunshine49 <shengirl@verizon.net> Subject: [VACULPEP] the list To: vaculpep@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 12:50 PM I am going to leave the list for awhile, as I just received a very hostile and nasty private message from a member, attacking me for a politics-related post which, it turns out, I did not write at all [another member named Nancy did]. As I am dealing with some serious health issues at the moment, I do not need this kind of stuff intruding on my life. If I wanted political battles, I'd join a political online group. best, Nancy ------- I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. --Daniel Boone  

Thank you for your post re the name Jael. My earliest Virginia Jael is Jael HARRISON b c 1674, daughter of Elizabeth PIGG-MOTT m 2) James HARRISON. Jael is my many-grt half-aunt. I am descended from George MOTT and Elizabeth PIGG through their daughter Eleanor "Ellen" MOTT m Richard SHIPPEY. They had a daughter--also Jael--m 1) William UNDERWOOD 2) Samuel REEDS Jael HARRISON m 1) William WILLIAMS and 2) Richard JOHNSTON. Her descendants were in Culpeper and include Descendants of James Harrison 1 James Harrison 1641 - 1712 b: 1641 d: 1712 in Essex County, Virginia .. +Elizabeth Pigg 1645 - 1697 b: 1645 in Old Rappahannock Co., Va. d: 03/27/1697 in Richmond County, Virginia ........ 2 Jael Harrison 1674 - 1733 b: Bet. 1674 - 1675 in Essex Co., Virginia d: 1733 in Spotsylvania Co., Virginia ............ +William Williams 1665 - 1712 b: 1665 in Wales> Essex, Stafford Co., Virginia d: 1712 in Essex--intestate ................... 3 Sarah Ann Williams 1690 - b: 1690 ....................... +Philemon Kavanaugh 1690 - 1744 b: Abt. 1690 in Leinster, Ireland d: 1744 in Orange Co., Va. ............................. 4 Mildred "Winifred" Kavanaugh 1712 - 1797 b: Abt. 1712 d: Aft. 1797 in Culpeper Co., Virginia ................................. +Lewis David Yancy 1689 - 1784 b: 1689 in New Kent Co., Virginia? d: 1784 in Culpeper Co., Virginia ............................. 4 Charles Frederick Kavanaugh 1725 - b: Aft. 1725 ................................. +Ann Covington 1730 - b: Abt. 1730 in Essex Co., Virginia ............................. 4 Elizabeth Kavanaugh 1728 - b: Aft. 1728 ................................. +John Conner ............................. *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Kavanaugh: ................................. +[1] Thomas Covington 1716 - 1756 b: Abt. 1716 in Essex Co., Virginia d: 12/05/1756 in Culpeper Co., Va. ............................. 4 Mary Kavanaugh 1728 - b: Aft. 1728 ............................. 4 Philemon Kavanaugh 1737 - 1764 b: 1737 d: 1764 ................................. +Nancy Ann Cave 1734 - 1808 b: 1734 in Virginia d: Aft. 1808 ............................. 4 Anna Kavanaugh 1740 - b: Abt. 1740 ................................. +Adam Woods ............................. 4 Sarah Kavanaugh 1742 - 1774 b: Abt. 1742 d: Bet. 1774 - 1775 ................................. +Francis Strother 1742 - b: Abt. 1742 ............................. 4 Williams Kavanaugh 1744 - b: 1744 ................................. +Mary Harrison 1744 - b: 1744 in Sussex Co., Delaware ............................. 4 Elinor Kavanaugh 1728 - b: Bef. 1728 ................................. +Thomas Browne - 1758 d: 1758 ............................. *2nd Husband of Elinor Kavanaugh: ................................. +Edward Stubblefield 1728 - 1750 b: Bef. 1728 d: 1750 ............................. 4 Jael Kavanaugh 1715 - 1747 b: 1715 in Essex Co., Virginia d: 1747 in Orange Co., Virginia ................................. +[1] Thomas Covington 1716 - 1756 b: Abt. 1716 in Essex Co., Virginia d: 12/05/1756 in Culpeper Co., Va. ................... 3 James Williams 1695 - 1735 b: 1695 d: 05/30/1735 in St. George's Par., Spotsylvania ....................... +Ann Tutt 1710 - 1735 b: Abt. 1710 d: Aft. 1735 ............................. 4 William Williams 1725 - 1770 b: Bet. 1725 - 1735 in St. George's Par., Spotsylvania --Of Cedar Farm, Culpeper Co., Va. d: Abt. 1770 in Culpeper Co., Virginia ................................. +Lucy Clayton 1720 - 1775 b: Abt. 1720 in of "Catalpa", Culpeper Co., VA. d: Aft. 1775 ............................. 4 John Williams 1725 - b: Bet. 1725 - 1735 in St. George's Par., Spotsylvania ................................. +Mary Pendleton 1735 - b: Abt. 1735 in Culpeper Co., Va. ................... 3 Elizabeth(Betty) Williams 1697 - b: 1697 ................... 3 William Williams 1690 - b: Bet. 1690 - 1712 ........ *2nd Husband of Jael Harrison: ............ +Richard Johnston, Col. 1671 - 1726 b: 1671 in Annandale, Dumphries, Scotland d: 1726 in Spotsylvania County, Virginia ................... 3 Elizabeth Johnson 1712 - 1753 b: Abt. 1712 d: Bef. 09/07/1753 ....................... +Richard Tutt, Jr. 1705 - 1767 b: 1705 in King George Co., Va. d: Bef. 03/02/1767 in Spotsylvania Co., Va. or King George ............................. 4 Richard Johnson Tutt b: in Orange Co., Virginia d: in Culpeper Co., Virginia ................................. +Million (?) Tutt ............................. 4 James Tutt 1734 - 1812 b: 10/09/1734 d: 1812 ................................. +Ann Minor 1755 - b: Aft. 1755 in Spotsylvania/Orange Co., Virginia ............................. 4 John Tutt 1732 - b: Bet. 1732 - 1767 HARRISON, James (16??-1712) married circa Elizabeth MOTT, widow and executrix of George MOTT, deceased; she died before 27 Mar 1697. Their only child was Jael Harrison (167?-1733); she married (1) William WILLIAMS who died intestate in Essex County in 1712 and (2) Richard Johnson with whom she lived in Spotsylvania County on the Rappahannock River immediately opposite Ferry Farm, home of George Washingtons parents. Richard Johnson died intestate in 1726 and Jael (Harrison) Williams Johnson died testate in Spotsylvania County in 1733 survey of the Northern Neck of Virginia made for Thomas, Lord Fairfax, designates the estate as Williams and immediately opposite the Strother plantation which was purchased and occupied by Captain Augustine Washington in 1738. In 1745 a ferry was established from the Williams plantation across Rappahannock River to the Washington plantation and this continued to be a well accustomed passage for many years. Richmond County DB#3, p.3; Rappahannock County COB #2, p 253; Essex County COB1708-1714, p. 444, p450; DB#13, p. 320; D&W$14,p.61; Virginia Gazette 2 May 1745; 6 Hening 15. Charlene REEDS-EBELING Genealogical Direct Lines: DAD'S SIDE: REEDS, PORTER, WEAVER(Tilman), RICHARDSON, BOWLING (Group 7), WOOD, ISRAEL, CRAIG, LAIRD, HACKLEY, BALL, CORBIN, ELTONHEAD, TAYLOE, WILLIAMSON, UNDERWOOD, KEENE, WITHERS, MAUZY, CONYERS, WITHERS, KEENE, DUNCAN (Joseph and Lydia-VA), SHIPPEY, MOTT, PIGG, BELL (Stone Church and Roger-Orange Co., Va), BEARD/BAIRD, CARTER (Giles and Theodorick line), WEBB, WADDILL, MICHAUX, CUNNINGHAM---VA --Plus WHITE, HAGERTY, FLATLEY--Green Bay MOMS SIDE: CORNWELL (NY), ANSCHICKS, BECKER, STEDMAN, REITZ, BUTZ, KNAUSS, DIEHL, PATTERMAN, THULL, MEHAN, ROMIG, CARL, SIEGFRIED **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Marianne wrote: "And yes they had a daughter named Jael which is a name I am not familiar with. I often have wondered where they got the name from. " There were BAUGHAN/BOUGHAN/VAUGHAN families in Culpeper Co after 1769 (til around 1850). So far as I know, the parents, Henry and Jael Brown Boughan never moved "west" from Essex Co, but there was a Mordecai Baughan whose daughter Susanna married Robert Jones and had a daughter Jael Jones who married Henry Vaughan, the son of Vincent Vaughan (Mordecai and Vincent may have been brothers). DNA has confirmed Mordecai Baughan was a close descendant of Henry Boughan. Anyway, Jael is an Old Testament name. Sally **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

ancestry refuses to change anything on their site that is wrong.  I have tried to make several corrections but they just keep either ignoring me or telling me I am wrong.  And when I am sitting looking at my mom's birth certificate and he father's name is on it and doesn't match theirs I know I am not wrong.   Also I know the order in which my grandmother married her husband's and what their names were and they tell me I am wrong there also. Dee H. genluver_2@yahoo.com I cannot breathe life into you I can only be. --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Marge <msealock@mchsi.com> wrote: From: Marge <msealock@mchsi.com> Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Prove It To: "Jean Suddarth" <jsuddarth@earthlink.net>, vaculpep@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:19 AM That's nothing, they have my father born 1910 and mother born 1914 as the parents of the ancestor that I posted about trying to check DNA. He of course was born about 1737. I have email Ancestry over and over and they won't change it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sally,    James Graves who married Sarah unknown whose will in 1781 in Culpeper is my 6th great grandparents. I descend from their daughter Mary Graves who married Richard Parks whose will is in Culpeper in 1817.  The James Graves will l also names his daughter Jail (Jael) Jones. Richard Parks father John Parks Sr who married Margaret True will is in Spotsylvania in dated 1735.   In James Graves will it mentions besides Jail Jones.. a William Jones.  James Graves owned land in the fork of Rappahannock on Muddy Run. The deed is in Orange County Deed Book 10: 223-2224. .   On a chart on the Parks line it shows just the names. It has John Parks and Margaret True who are the parents of my Richard Parks who married Mary Graves. The chart also shows a Mary Parks married Robert Jones.  It then shows Ann Jones m. Richard Bougham; Mary m. Bryant McGrath; Lucy Jones m. Thomas Thornhill; Thomas Jones m. Agnes ?.  That is all I have on them except the next generation has a Lucy Jones m. Caleb Smith.   Marianne Dillow     --- On Tue, 1/6/09, SallyBaughn@aol.com <SallyBaughn@aol.com> wrote: From: SallyBaughn@aol.com <SallyBaughn@aol.com> Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Graves (Jael) To: vaculpep@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 8:48 PM Marianne wrote: "And yes they had a daughter named Jael which is a name I am not familiar with. I often have wondered where they got the name from. " There were BAUGHAN/BOUGHAN/VAUGHAN families in Culpeper Co after 1769 (til around 1850). So far as I know, the parents, Henry and Jael Brown Boughan never moved "west" from Essex Co, but there was a Mordecai Baughan whose daughter Susanna married Robert Jones and had a daughter Jael Jones who married Henry Vaughan, the son of Vincent Vaughan (Mordecai and Vincent may have been brothers). DNA has confirmed Mordecai Baughan was a close descendant of Henry Boughan. Anyway, Jael is an Old Testament name. Sally   

I remember Craig saying he does genealogy for others and charges. Just a nice freeby for him if he recieves these records.? I hope if he charges for work done by others he shares -----Original Message----- From: marianne dillow <mdillow31@verizon.net> To: vaculpep@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 3:55 pm Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] It's all relative Hi Pat, ? Craig wants? my report from Family Tree Maker?.. "off list"... so he can use it for others. Craig knows very well I can't send attachments to this list. I have eleven? pages of records on just one grandfather let alone the rest of them.?Craig can do his own work. ? Thanks for your comments. :) ? Marianne Dillow --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Haynes, Patricia A. <phaynes@fulbright.com> wrote: From: Haynes, Patricia A. <phaynes@fulbright.com> Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] It's all relative To: vaculpep@rootsweb.com, "Craig Kilby" <persisto@earthlink.net> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 1:51 PM Maybe I missed something in this discussion, but I don't recall anyone actually saying they descend from William the Conqueror, so I don't know why you keep bringing it up. Sure it's probably hypothetical, but what's the point of referring to it over and over? I agree that evidence is credible or it isn't, but perhaps it's not what you are saying, but HOW you are saying it. You can be rather dismissive in your tone when replying. Nothing personal, just an observation. I also observe that you like to have the last word, so go ahead. I'm not responding any further, so you automatically win that one. :) Your e-mail address says it all. -----Original Message----- From: vaculpep-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vaculpep-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Craig Kilby Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:45 PM To: mdillow31@verizon.net; vaculpep@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] It's all relative I am by no means am trying to "intinimidate" you. All I ask from anyone is to provide evidence of what they assert. You are either a descendant of William the Conquorer, or you aren't. If you say are, then PROVE IT I cannot comprehend how people take this so personally. You either have credible evidence, or you don't. If you do, then present it. If you do not have evidence, don't present it. Seems pretty simple to me. I think even Judge Judy would concur on this simple basic point. On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:55 PM, mari anne dillow wrote: > I refuse to be intinimidated by you. ?? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you two are related like one email said and she has all the work done and you want the proof, that sure would help you, wouldn't it?? I suggest that instead of sending to the culpeper site send the proof directly to Craig's email. FTM can do that, right? -----Original Message----- From: Craig Kilby <persisto@earthlink.net> To: mdillow31@verizon.net; vaculpep@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 2:45 pm Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] It's all relative I am by no means am trying to "intinimidate" you. All I ask from anyone is to provide evidence of what they assert. You are either a descendant of William the Conquorer, or you aren't. If you say are, then PROVE IT I cannot comprehend how people take this so personally. You either have credible evidence, or you don't. If you do, then present it. If you do not have evidence, don't present it. Seems pretty simple to me. I think even Judge Judy would concur on this simple basic point. On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:55 PM, marianne dillow wrote: > I refuse to be intinimidated by you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VACULPEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My message was pretty basic. Cite your sources for all statements of fact. On Jan 8, 2009, at 5:14 PM, denise johnson wrote: > Hi, Everyone, > > Happy New Year.