Lillie, can you do a marriage lookup for me? I am interested in the Thomas Brown Family. He left Va.about 1800 for Ky. Some of his children's names, according to Ky. deeds, were Thomas, Charles, Phoebe, Cytha, Philadelphia, and Molly. Some of these children were living in Va in the late !830s, others already deceased. I do not know Thomas Sr.'s spouse name. I hope I haven't inconvienced you. Thank you for your time. Joyce in Ky.

JOYCE: I am told that my G. Grandfather JOHN BROWN, was born in Culpeper, VA. I do know the exact date of his birth as it is written on his tombstone in Miami Co. KS. JOHN BROWN was born June 24, 1801. JOHN BROWN married RACHEL PEDEN about 1828 as their first child ALEXANDER P. BROWN was born in VA about 1829. Is it possible that your THOMAS BROWN was related? Waunita M (BROWN) Herron (in WA) --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: PINKTAFETA@aol.com To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:28:52 EDT Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Piner/Swindle marriage Message-ID: <97.3b60f123.2c3d80a4@aol.com> Lillie, can you do a marriage lookup for me? I am interested in the Thomas Brown Family. He left Va.about 1800 for Ky. Some of his children's names, according to Ky. deeds, were Thomas, Charles, Phoebe, Cytha, Philadelphia, and Molly. Some of these children were living in Va in the late !830s, others already deceased. I do not know Thomas Sr.'s spouse name. I hope I haven't inconvienced you. Thank you for your time. Joyce in Ky. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Prince George and the library in Laurel does not do interlibrary loan from Virginia. They told me you have to go to a large library like Pratt etc. I tried at the new one in Anne Arundel near Russett and they don't either. Their genealogy section other that historical maps etc is about one foot long. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne W. Bradshaw Musser To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA What county are you? I live in Montgomery Co. and we have ILL. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret Davis To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA That would be a good way to get the information, but I for one can not because our libraries here in Maryland will not honor interlibrary loans. And it would really be easy. But a lot of times LDS libraries have a lot of these films so you might get them there and maybe that would help also. ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia A. Baber To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:32 PM Subject: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA It seems that some of you are in need of Culpeper records. The Library of Virginia has most of those records on microfilm. The list of Culpeper records is at: http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/culpeper.htm If the film has an ILL beside it, it means that it is available for interlibrary loan. You can go to any public library, fill out a form and have the film sent there for you to view and copy. Unlike some libraries, LVA does not charge anything for this service. I have borrowed many of their films through ILL. Good luck, Pat Baber ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dear Joyce, I haven't been there for five years. It is a long drive from CA. There may have been records of your Browns in the annals of the Great Crossings church in the Scott Co. Hist. Society. I have run across several Browns but they were in nearby Owen Co. I think there were two separate Brown clans. My cousin's farm is on the North Fork of the Elkhorn. You were probably on that land when you saw the school. It was a farm begun in the 1770's. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: <PINKTAFETA@aol.com> To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Re: [VACULPEP] Re:Great Crossing > Tom, I was just there, Great Crossing. I did not drive back to see the > house. The school site has a fense around it and a historical marker. Both the > town and site are very near the North Fork of Elkhorn Creek. This was an old > buffalo trace. The herds were on their way to Stamping Ground, a small town a > few miles west. Salt licks were their. > My interest was Thomas Brown Sr.who possibly taught at the Indian school. > Thomas came from Culpeper Co., Va His grand children were born there. Do > you have any Browns in your family line? Interesting isn't it. > Joyce in Ky. > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

http://www.usatrivia.com/vpbirjoh.html Richard Mentor Johnson - 9th Vice President Party: Democrat Term: March 4 - 1837 - March 3, 1841 Age at First Inauguration: 56 Life Span: Oct 17, 1780 - Nov 19, 1850 [70] President: Martin Van Buren For the first and only time in history, the vice president was chosen by a vote of the senate when no majority was received in the electoral college Johnson was considered by most as a vulgar mouthed, non-conformist individual whose only claim to fame was that killed an Indian chief named Tecumseh As a congressman he proposed requiring postal employees to work a seven day week because he enjoyed receiving mail Consistently close to bankruptcy and heavily in debt, he voted to eliminate debtors prisons, and proposed numerous pay raises for Congress He inherited a slave, Julia Chinn, from his deceased father and took her as his common-law wife He fathered two daughters, raised them as free persons, and later gave them large tracts of land when they married - both to white men After Julia died in 1833, he took another slave as his common-law wife who ran away from his plantation Johnson found the woman, sold her at a slave auction, and took her sister as his mistress Needless to say, Johnson was not a respected individual, and in the election of 1836 some states refused to cast a ballot for him, including his home state of Kentucky He fell one vote short of a majority, and after the senate began deliberating, Van Buren used his influence to win the vote in the senate. See a genealogy link to descendants of WILLIAM JOHNSON (also spelled JOHNSTON and JOHNSTONE) http://www2.1starnet.com/cgenzel/johnson/pafg04.htm Race Meets Politics on the American Frontier Flashback: To know nothing of what happened before you were born is to remain ever a child-Cicero http://www.theamericanenterprise.org/taema99f.htm Prodigal Daughter wants to be a DAR member Summer 2000 The Women's Quarterly. Independent Women's Forum http://www.iwf.org/pubs/twq/Summer2000a.shtml HarpWeek | American Political Prints 1766-1876 | Medium Image ... image is of a black woman, supposedly Johnson's mulatto mistress Julia Chinn. She sits on a small knoll holding a bag, http://www.loc.harpweek.com/LCPoliticalCartoons/IndexDisplayCartoonMedium.as p?SourceIndex=People&IndexText=Johnson,+Richard+M.&UniqueID=15&Year=1836 Julia Chinn and Traveling Church http://ccharity.com/discus/messages/13/357.html?SaturdayMay2720001003pm The descendants of William Johnston/Johnson have many African American blood relatives; the story of Julia Chinn and the political times in which they lived relative to the slavery and the established of the American government are quite interesting. Equally interesting is the inter-connectedness of those Virginia or Southern families. My ancestors were slaves of the JOHNSON family in Missouri -- brought there from Bourbon Co., KY and Culpepper Co., VA among others. traci wilson-kleekamp african americans in missouri http://www.missouri-slave-data.org

Hi, Listers, Mary Stevens Jones >a retired newspaper writer and a former English teacher, >holds a B.A. degree from Westhampton College of the University of Richmond. >Co-editor of Historic Culpeper published in 1972 by the Culpeper Historical >Society, she resides in Culpeper. She is vice-chairman of Culpeper County's >American Bicentennial Commission. > Mary Stevens died at least 20 years ago.... I wish I could talk to her now....she and her sister Mildred were very involved in history and genealogy and did lots of work for the Historical Society, as well as inventorying cemeteries. Mildred taught high school English here for many, many years...hundreds of us passed through the door to her classroom. By the time we moved to Culpeper (1955), Mary Stevens was a highly respected newspaper writer of the highest caliber. We sorely need someone like her writing for our papers now. BTW, Culpeper has now added a 3rd paper to its repertoire: the Culpeper Citizen. It is published on Thursdays and distributed FREE countywide. It is NOT published by the syndicate based in Tampa that owns the Culpeper Star-Exponent and the Culpeper News. It has its own website, too, as do the others. Check it out. Those of you who are interested in local color for your family histories will find it interesting to compare and contrast them. Daniel Boone did indeed live here for a time. To check whether he was a member of the House of Burgesses, one could consult the Library of Virginia archives and/or the William & Mary Quarterly Journal, to begin with. Richard Mentor Johnson was the running mate of Martin Van Buren. They served from 1837-1841. Regards, Donna S. Boyd Donna

What county are you? I live in Montgomery Co. and we have ILL. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret Davis To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA That would be a good way to get the information, but I for one can not because our libraries here in Maryland will not honor interlibrary loans. And it would really be easy. But a lot of times LDS libraries have a lot of these films so you might get them there and maybe that would help also. ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia A. Baber To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:32 PM Subject: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA It seems that some of you are in need of Culpeper records. The Library of Virginia has most of those records on microfilm. The list of Culpeper records is at: http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/culpeper.htm If the film has an ILL beside it, it means that it is available for interlibrary loan. You can go to any public library, fill out a form and have the film sent there for you to view and copy. Unlike some libraries, LVA does not charge anything for this service. I have borrowed many of their films through ILL. Good luck, Pat Baber ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Traci- Thanks for sharing! j -----Original Message----- From: Traci Wilson-Kleekamp [mailto:twilsonklee@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:56 PM To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VACULPEP] Richard Mentor Johnson http://www.usatrivia.com/vpbirjoh.html Richard Mentor Johnson - 9th Vice President Party: Democrat Term: March 4 - 1837 - March 3, 1841 Age at First Inauguration: 56 Life Span: Oct 17, 1780 - Nov 19, 1850 [70] President: Martin Van Buren For the first and only time in history, the vice president was chosen by a vote of the senate when no majority was received in the electoral college Johnson was considered by most as a vulgar mouthed, non-conformist individual whose only claim to fame was that killed an Indian chief named Tecumseh As a congressman he proposed requiring postal employees to work a seven day week because he enjoyed receiving mail Consistently close to bankruptcy and heavily in debt, he voted to eliminate debtors prisons, and proposed numerous pay raises for Congress He inherited a slave, Julia Chinn, from his deceased father and took her as his common-law wife He fathered two daughters, raised them as free persons, and later gave them large tracts of land when they married - both to white men After Julia died in 1833, he took another slave as his common-law wife who ran away from his plantation Johnson found the woman, sold her at a slave auction, and took her sister as his mistress Needless to say, Johnson was not a respected individual, and in the election of 1836 some states refused to cast a ballot for him, including his home state of Kentucky He fell one vote short of a majority, and after the senate began deliberating, Van Buren used his influence to win the vote in the senate. See a genealogy link to descendants of WILLIAM JOHNSON (also spelled JOHNSTON and JOHNSTONE) http://www2.1starnet.com/cgenzel/johnson/pafg04.htm Race Meets Politics on the American Frontier Flashback: To know nothing of what happened before you were born is to remain ever a child-Cicero http://www.theamericanenterprise.org/taema99f.htm Prodigal Daughter wants to be a DAR member Summer 2000 The Women's Quarterly. Independent Women's Forum http://www.iwf.org/pubs/twq/Summer2000a.shtml HarpWeek | American Political Prints 1766-1876 | Medium Image ... image is of a black woman, supposedly Johnson's mulatto mistress Julia Chinn. She sits on a small knoll holding a bag, http://www.loc.harpweek.com/LCPoliticalCartoons/IndexDisplayCartoonMedium.as p?SourceIndex=People&IndexText=Johnson,+Richard+M.&UniqueID=15&Year=1836 Julia Chinn and Traveling Church http://ccharity.com/discus/messages/13/357.html?SaturdayMay2720001003pm The descendants of William Johnston/Johnson have many African American blood relatives; the story of Julia Chinn and the political times in which they lived relative to the slavery and the established of the American government are quite interesting. Equally interesting is the inter-connectedness of those Virginia or Southern families. My ancestors were slaves of the JOHNSON family in Missouri -- brought there from Bourbon Co., KY and Culpepper Co., VA among others. traci wilson-kleekamp african americans in missouri http://www.missouri-slave-data.org ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

That would be a good way to get the information, but I for one can not because our libraries here in Maryland will not honor interlibrary loans. And it would really be easy. But a lot of times LDS libraries have a lot of these films so you might get them there and maybe that would help also. ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia A. Baber To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:32 PM Subject: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA It seems that some of you are in need of Culpeper records. The Library of Virginia has most of those records on microfilm. The list of Culpeper records is at: http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/culpeper.htm If the film has an ILL beside it, it means that it is available for interlibrary loan. You can go to any public library, fill out a form and have the film sent there for you to view and copy. Unlike some libraries, LVA does not charge anything for this service. I have borrowed many of their films through ILL. Good luck, Pat Baber ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks Patricia, If I understand correctly, the Commonwealth has cut funding so drastically to our beloved LVA, that they can no longer afford to participate in ILL. LVA card carrier, Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia A. Baber" <pbaber@ns.gemlink.com> To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:32 PM Subject: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA : It seems that some of you are in need of Culpeper records. The Library of Virginia has most of those records on microfilm. The list of Culpeper records is at: : http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/culpeper.htm : If the film has an ILL beside it, it means that it is available for interlibrary loan. You can go to any public library, fill out a form and have the film sent there for you to view and copy. Unlike some libraries, LVA does not charge anything for this service. I have borrowed many of their films through ILL. : Good luck, : Pat Baber : : : ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== : If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com : : ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 :

It seems that some of you are in need of Culpeper records. The Library of Virginia has most of those records on microfilm. The list of Culpeper records is at: http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/culpeper.htm If the film has an ILL beside it, it means that it is available for interlibrary loan. You can go to any public library, fill out a form and have the film sent there for you to view and copy. Unlike some libraries, LVA does not charge anything for this service. I have borrowed many of their films through ILL. Good luck, Pat Baber

One of my ancestors, Moses Sweeney, married Elizabeth Johnson. Her family was said to be cousins of some sort to Richard M Johnson, V. P. of the United States but I've seen no evidence of this. This couple settled in Virginia, and created a mill along the Slate River, in Buckinghamshire, VA. They had several children there, and then relocated to what is now Lincoln County, KY. In 1787 Moses built a log home, which was what his family lived in until his death. I have seen records linking Moses with Boonesboro/D. Boone. Does anyone have further information on Elizabeth, her family, and whether there really was a connection to VP Johnson? Thanks Jan Daniel -----Original Message----- From: Thomas S. Fiske [mailto:evitom@adelphia.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:11 AM To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Re: [VACULPEP] Re: Daniel Boone Questions] Dear Wuanita an listers, Near Boonesboro, KY is a small community where another Johnson lived. He was VP under President Martin Van Buren, serving 1837-1841. Here is a bit about him: JOHNSON, Richard Mentor, (brother of James Johnson [1774-1826] and John Telemachus Johnson, and uncle of Robert Ward Johnson), a Representative and a Senator from Kentucky and a Vice President of the United States; born at 'Beargrass,' Jefferson County, KY R.M. Johnson is buried near Boonesboro. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Waunita M Herron" <wmherron@juno.com> To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Re: [VACULPEP] Re: Daniel Boone Questions] > Hi Phyllis: > > I have been working on family genealogy for my G Grandfather RICHARD W > MORRIS, who married ELIZABETH D JOHNSON who was born in > Boonesboro KY near Lexington 5-05-1777. According to family legend her > father (MY G Grandfather) JOHNSON was under the command of DANIEL BOONE. > I don't know what his first name was. When Richard & Elizabeth were > married in Simpson Co, KY a JOHN JOHNSON provided Security for the > marriage this may have been a brother. I found a JOHNSON listed in the > names of those at Boonesboro, but can't lay my hands on it at this > minute. > > Thank you for the information. > > Waunita M Herron (in WA State) > > > On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:56:11 -0500 PHYLLIS MURPHY <hiphy@usa.net> writes: > > > > I have a picture, very old. of a Judith Johnson Crouse, on the back > > of it it > > says cousin of Daniel Boone. Her father was Thomas Johnson of North > > Carolina. > > Does anyone know anything about this. > > > > Phyllis > > > > > > Phyllis Murphy > > > > > > Home Interiors & Gifts Accessory Specialist > > > > IF IT IS TO BE IT IS UP TO ME. > > > > > > > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > > letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, > > personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT > > ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for > > exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I cant say for sure when I'll go to Culpeper... its about an hour drive from me. I hope to visit this summer though and spend a day going through old records. What would be helpful since I'm new to this sort of field research would be if someone could tell me where exactly in Culpeper to go to see these records, if I need to make an appointment, if there are fees involved, etc. Can I just show up at the courthouse and say "I'm here to find some old books"? On 09-Jul-2003 Debra Rookard wrote: > Craig, > > You are a good man indeed. > > I am seeking the Wills of: > > Joseph Blackwell > Book B, pgs 397, 398 > 21 Aug 1780 > (follows that of William Crawford) > > Probate > Book B, pg 466 > 19 Nov 1784 > > James Blackwell > Book C, pg 53 > > I am most happy to reimburse your time and expenses, > Debra > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Craig, You are a good man indeed. I am seeking the Wills of: Joseph Blackwell Book B, pgs 397, 398 21 Aug 1780 (follows that of William Crawford) Probate Book B, pg 466 19 Nov 1784 James Blackwell Book C, pg 53 I am most happy to reimburse your time and expenses, Debra

Lillie and All, I called the Culpepper Clerks Office about 3 weeks ago, requesting a copy of a Will. I might add that I had the exact Book, page #, and was offering to pay generously. The young lady that answered the phone sounding SO surprised; flat out and most unceremoniously informed me, "We don't do those kinds of things here, we don't have time. You'll have to come here yourself!" It made no impact when I told her that I live in Georgia. She behaved as if I were the 1st person who had ever made such an outlandish request. I cannot begin to express how stunned I felt when I hung up the phone. I'm sorry, but I find Culpepper the most difficult of any county to deal with in the whole of VA. I haven't tried writing to them, but I cannot think that I would not be as summarily dismissed as before and I haven't the time for futile exercizes. Do they not have any idea of the money they could generate considering their position in our nation's history? And they're shorthanded? They could put on 2 additional people to do this that would more than amply pay their own salaries. Please pardon the vent, Debra Still Stunned in Atlanta ----- Original Message ----- From: <dodmar@adelphia.net> To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:07 AM Subject: [VACULPEP] Piner/Swindle marriage : Craig, : : The following is from "Culpeper County, Virginia Marriages 1780-1853" Compiled by John Vogt & T. William Kethley, Jr., at page 62: : : Thomas Piner & Elizabeth Swindler 22 Dec 1791; min - Isham Tatum : : You can write to the Culpeper County Courthouse requesting a copy of the marriage documents; but, please be patient. They are very short handed. : : 135 W. Cameron St. : Culpeper, VA 22701 : Phone: 540-825-3035 : : : Regards, : Lillie Dodson Marshall : : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Craig Schenk" <murple@murple.net> : To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> : Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:16 PM : Subject: [VACULPEP] Piner/Swindle marriage : : : > Hello all... I'm trying to locate anyone with a copy of the marriage : record of : > Thomas Piner and Elizabeth Swindle, married 22 Dec 1791 in Culpeper. I've : seen : > numerous citations of the marriage record but would like to find a copy of : the : > actual record or at least get a more exact wording of the record. : > : > Elizabeth was daughter of John Swindle and Hannah Weaver (of Germanna : descent). : > Thomas Piner was son of Thomas Sr. and Margaret Walker. I'd also be : curious if : > anyone knows anything about either Thomas Sr. or Margaret Walker. All I : really : > know is that they existed, were Thomas Jr's parents, and that Thomas Sr. : died : > in 1777. I don't know if the Piners were of Germanna descent or were : English, : > and I know nothing at all of the Walkers. : > : > Also curious if anyone knows how Daniel Boone may have been connected to : this : > area. My ancestry goes through Columbus Piner, son of Presley Piner, son : of : > Thomas Piner and Elizabeth Swindle. Old family tradition claims that : Columbus : > head west to Missouri by way of Kentucky with Daniel Boone. It seems many : > Culpeper folks (especially of Germanna descent) ended up going the same : route. : > It would be an interesting connection to history if true, but : unfortunately I : > don't know all that much about Boone (yet). : : : : ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== : If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com : : ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 : :

Hmm... Swindler, with an R? That's interesting. Is this a variant spelling of the Swindle/Swindell name? All the information I have points to Thomas Piner's wife being Elizabeth Swindle (no R), daughter of John Swindle and Hannah Weaver. The Swindles ans Weavers were certainly in the right place at the right time, and I haven't heard of any separate Swindler family in Culpeper at the time. Anybody know any more on this topic? On 08-Jul-2003 dodmar@adelphia.net wrote: > Craig, > > The following is from "Culpeper County, Virginia Marriages 1780-1853" > Compiled by John Vogt & T. William Kethley, Jr., at page 62: > > Thomas Piner & Elizabeth Swindler 22 Dec 1791; min - Isham Tatum > > You can write to the Culpeper County Courthouse requesting a copy of the > marriage documents; but, please be patient. They are very short handed. > > 135 W. Cameron St. > Culpeper, VA 22701 > Phone: 540-825-3035 > > > Regards, > Lillie Dodson Marshall > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Schenk" <murple@murple.net> > To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:16 PM > Subject: [VACULPEP] Piner/Swindle marriage > > >> Hello all... I'm trying to locate anyone with a copy of the marriage > record of >> Thomas Piner and Elizabeth Swindle, married 22 Dec 1791 in Culpeper. I've > seen >> numerous citations of the marriage record but would like to find a copy of > the >> actual record or at least get a more exact wording of the record. >> >> Elizabeth was daughter of John Swindle and Hannah Weaver (of Germanna > descent). >> Thomas Piner was son of Thomas Sr. and Margaret Walker. I'd also be > curious if >> anyone knows anything about either Thomas Sr. or Margaret Walker. All I > really >> know is that they existed, were Thomas Jr's parents, and that Thomas Sr. > died >> in 1777. I don't know if the Piners were of Germanna descent or were > English, >> and I know nothing at all of the Walkers. >> >> Also curious if anyone knows how Daniel Boone may have been connected to > this >> area. My ancestry goes through Columbus Piner, son of Presley Piner, son > of >> Thomas Piner and Elizabeth Swindle. Old family tradition claims that > Columbus >> head west to Missouri by way of Kentucky with Daniel Boone. It seems many >> Culpeper folks (especially of Germanna descent) ended up going the same > route. >> It would be an interesting connection to history if true, but > unfortunately I >> don't know all that much about Boone (yet). > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are > on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 7/7/2003 10:53 PM Central DT, RJFJBF@aol.com writes: > << Daniel Boone, who fought with Geo. Washington in the Braddock campaign, > > served with Jefferson in the Virginia House of Burgess, and led Abraham > Lincoln's > grandfather into Kentucky, settled his family in Culpeper County for about > two > years. >> > Speaking off the top of my head, I have never heard of Daniel Boone being in the Va House of Burgesses. It sounds questionable. Cleve

Hi Tracy, My G Grandfather's name was spelled JOHNSON & there has been much research on the name of his son-inlaw RICHARD W MORRIS on the internet & shown on rootsweb. He married in Simpson Co. Ky to ELIZABETH D JOHNSON then in about 1830 moved by oxen to ILL. Waunita M herron _______________________________________ On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:24:35 -0500 "Traci Wilson-Kleekamp" <twilsonklee@earthlink.net> writes: > I am reading a book on Martin Van Buren... which includes mentions of > Richard M. JOhnston. > > He had a very interesting political career -- including taking alot > of heat > for his slave marriage. > > > traci wilson-kleekamp > > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, > send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor > if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I am reading a book on Martin Van Buren... which includes mentions of Richard M. JOhnston. He had a very interesting political career -- including taking alot of heat for his slave marriage. traci wilson-kleekamp

And by the way -- I'm' interested in Richard Mentor JOhnston... he's kin to the JOHNSTONS of Caroline and Orange Co., VA -- William Johnston and Ann Marie Chew Johnston. Richard Johnston had children with a slave named Julia Chinn and I'm interested in what happened to those children and the other slaves he owned. traci wilson-kleekamp -----Original Message----- From: Thomas S. Fiske [mailto:evitom@adelphia.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:11 PM To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Re: [VACULPEP] Re: Daniel Boone Questions] Dear Wuanita an listers, Near Boonesboro, KY is a small community where another Johnson lived. He was VP under President Martin Van Buren, serving 1837-1841. Here is a bit about him: JOHNSON, Richard Mentor, (brother of James Johnson [1774-1826] and John Telemachus Johnson, and uncle of Robert Ward Johnson), a Representative and a Senator from Kentucky and a Vice President of the United States; born at 'Beargrass,' Jefferson County, KY R.M. Johnson is buried near Boonesboro. Tom