June, thank you very much. This information feels right. I beleive I have two great grandfathers (third and fourth) named Thomas Brown. I found a marriage in Fredricksburg in 1783 of Cytha Brown with Thomas Brown as wittness. Are there any marriage records before 1780 of St. Marks or Fredricksburg? Joyce

Donna, thanks for the marriage records. It could be possible. Joyce

I am interested in finding if my John is related to the Browns that have been in the list lately. My earliest John Brown was born in 1758 in Culpeper Co., Va./ or 1764 England and married Lucy (Mary) Doggett.. I am told they are buried in Mt. Pony Cemetery in Culpeper County, Virginia (but have not be able to find anyone has seen the listing for this burial.... they had 13 known children....I have nothing on his ancestors; any help would be appreciated. Descendants of John Brown Generation No. 1 1. John2 Brown (John1) was born October 1758 in Rapidian River, Culpeper County, Virginia, and died December 31, 1834 in Sumter County, South Carolina; conflicting location of Culpeper County, Virginia. He married Lucy "Mary" Doggett 1781 in Culpeper County, Virginia, daughter of Thomas Doggett and Bathsheba ?. She was born in Carolina County, Virginia, and died in Sumter County, South Carolina. Children of John Brown and Lucy Doggett are: 2 i. John Doggett3 Brown, born 1789; died December 31, 1834 in Culpeper County, Virginia: MB 1866-1867 (The Doggett Family Home Page). He married Catherine Thomas Sample August 19, 1810 in Waterford, Loundoun County, Virginia; born 1789 in Loudoun County, Virginia. 3 ii. Sarah R. (Randolph) Brown, born February 08, 1795 in Virginia; died in Hillsboro, Highland County, Ohio. She married Spencer F. Doggett October 18, 1820; born October 18, 1796 in Culpeper County, Virginia; MB October 18, 1797; died November 23, 1847 in Hillsboro, Highland County, Ohio. 4 iii. Nimrod Brown, born March 29, 1796 in Culpeppr County, Virginia; died January 09, 1873 in Coryell County, Texas near the Community of Flat. He married Gracie Reece/Reese March 12, 1818 in Culpepper County, Virginia; conflicting marriage date of March 12, 1812 (Doggett Family Home Page); born October 19, 1796 in Culpeper County, Virginia.; died July 08, 1868 in Gatesville, Coryell County, Texas. 5 iv. Thomas Brown. 6 v. Walker Brown. He married Mollie Vaughn. 7 vi. Benjamin Brown. 8 vii. James Brown. 9 viii. Daniel Brown. He married Penelope Collins 1809. 10 ix. James Brown. 11 x. Mary Mardy Brown. 12 xi. Mildred Brown, died in Culpeper County, Virginia. She married William Doggett March 18, 1819 in Culpeper County, Virginia. 13 xii. Betsy Brown. 14 xiii. Lucy Brown, died in Culpeper County, Virginia. Is it possible my Browns connect to the ones below? Thanks you in advance for you kind assistance. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cpzb4@aol.com> To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Re: Thomas Brown > 1750. A "Chapel of ease" was ordered at the Little Fork, and the vestry > agreed to meet at or near the old muster-field at the forks of the road, to choose > the site, and contract with Thomas Brown to undertake it. > (Source: Historical Notes on Culpeper County, VA...St. Mark's Parish; > Green Notes) > > The Brown Family (source same as above) > There lies before me a patent for land in the South Fork of the Gourdvine > River, from Lord Fairfax, proprietor of the Northern Neck, to John Brown; he > paying every year the free rent of one shilling sterling for every 50 acres, on > the Feast of St. Michael the Archangel. It is dated 22d June, in the 20th year > of our Sovereign Lord George II, by the grace of God King of Great Britain, > France and Ireland, and Defender of the Faith, A.D. 1749. > (Signed) > FAIRFAX > The land was surveyed by Major Philip Clayton, and it adjoins the land of > Thomas Howison and William Brown. It appears in the vestry-book that Daniel Brown > was sheriff and collector of the parish levy. > Coleman Brown was clerk and lay reader in the church. Thomas Brown was > undertaker of a chapel in the Little Fork; and Capt. William Brown was the > contractor for an addition to Buck Run Church. These are the ancestors of the late > Armistead and Daniel Brown ad their families. > > June > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

1750. A "Chapel of ease" was ordered at the Little Fork, and the vestry agreed to meet at or near the old muster-field at the forks of the road, to choose the site, and contract with Thomas Brown to undertake it. (Source: Historical Notes on Culpeper County, VA...St. Mark's Parish; Green Notes) The Brown Family (source same as above) There lies before me a patent for land in the South Fork of the Gourdvine River, from Lord Fairfax, proprietor of the Northern Neck, to John Brown; he paying every year the free rent of one shilling sterling for every 50 acres, on the Feast of St. Michael the Archangel. It is dated 22d June, in the 20th year of our Sovereign Lord George II, by the grace of God King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, and Defender of the Faith, A.D. 1749. (Signed) FAIRFAX The land was surveyed by Major Philip Clayton, and it adjoins the land of Thomas Howison and William Brown. It appears in the vestry-book that Daniel Brown was sheriff and collector of the parish levy. Coleman Brown was clerk and lay reader in the church. Thomas Brown was undertaker of a chapel in the Little Fork; and Capt. William Brown was the contractor for an addition to Buck Run Church. These are the ancestors of the late Armistead and Daniel Brown ad their families. June

That is all I got, but I thought they would resend. ----- Original Message ----- From: Waunita M Herron To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Interlibrary Loan problem What is the message?? All I got was the virus & etc warning. Something is missing. Waunita M Herron ____________________________________________ On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:11:15 EDT RAYVAN@aol.com writes: > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, > personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT > ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for > exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Joyce, There are only two Thomas Browns listed in _Culpeper County, Virginia Marriages, 1780-1853_ by John Vogt & T. William Kethley, Jr., Iberian Publishing Co., Athens, Georgia, 1984, p. 19. The first Thomas Brown is listed as "Thomas C & Frances H Griffin 23 Dec 1843; min. Silas Bruce" Since they didn't marry until after your Thomas left for Kentucky, that wouldn't be he. However, the second one is "Thomas & Elener Weatherall 8 Mar 1796; min. William Mason (Baptist)." This one sounds more plausible as your Thomas. Donna

What is the message?? All I got was the virus & etc warning. Something is missing. Waunita M Herron ____________________________________________ On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:11:15 EDT RAYVAN@aol.com writes: > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, > personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT > ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for > exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Dear Listers, I was looking at the few pages I have of the "Minutes of the Great Crossings Baptist Church, Scott Co., KY, 1785-1813." It is indexed, by the way. The minutes are typewritten. Again, I have only a few pages, but the entire document can be found in the Scott Co. Historical Society, Georgetown, KY. On p. 33, I see a Wm Brown with a James written above a carat (^) mark. A line through the name indicates that Brown was no longer a member when the minutes were recorded. There are lots of Johnsons, too. Peggy, Sally, Jemima, Mary, Nancy and Susannah are some women, but there are also the following men: Andrew, jun., Thomas, Daniel, James, Robert and John M., with wife Sooky. I believe that these people may have had roots in Culpeper. Certainly, my Scott Co. Ancestrors did. (Drakes & Bruces. The Drakes were in this church, too. Another, from Fairfax, had a grandparent in VA who was called "papist". It is a long leap from Papist to Baptist. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Traci Wilson-Kleekamp" <twilsonklee@earthlink.net> To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:55 PM Subject: [VACULPEP] Richard Mentor Johnson > > http://www.usatrivia.com/vpbirjoh.html > Richard Mentor Johnson - 9th Vice President > Party: Democrat > Term: March 4 - 1837 - March 3, 1841 > Age at First Inauguration: 56 > Life Span: Oct 17, 1780 - Nov 19, 1850 [70] > President: Martin Van Buren > > For the first and only time in history, the vice president was chosen by a > vote of the senate when no majority was received in the electoral college > Johnson was considered by most as a vulgar mouthed, non-conformist > individual whose only claim to fame was that killed an Indian chief named > Tecumseh As a congressman he proposed requiring postal employees to work a > seven day week because he enjoyed receiving mail Consistently close to > bankruptcy and heavily in debt, he voted to eliminate debtors prisons, and > proposed numerous pay raises for Congress He inherited a slave, Julia Chinn, > from his deceased father and took her as his common-law wife He fathered two > daughters, raised them as free persons, and later gave them large tracts of > land when they married - both to white men After Julia died in 1833, he took > another slave as his common-law wife who ran away from his plantation > Johnson found the woman, sold her at a slave auction, and took her sister as > his mistress > Needless to say, Johnson was not a respected individual, and in the election > of 1836 some states refused to cast a ballot for him, including his home > state of Kentucky He fell one vote short of a majority, and after the senate > began deliberating, Van Buren used his influence to win the vote in the > senate. > > See a genealogy link to descendants of WILLIAM JOHNSON (also spelled > JOHNSTON and JOHNSTONE) > http://www2.1starnet.com/cgenzel/johnson/pafg04.htm > > > Race Meets Politics on the American Frontier > Flashback: To know nothing of what happened before you were born is to > remain ever a child-Cicero > http://www.theamericanenterprise.org/taema99f.htm > > Prodigal Daughter wants to be a DAR member > Summer 2000 The Women's Quarterly. Independent Women's Forum > http://www.iwf.org/pubs/twq/Summer2000a.shtml > > > HarpWeek | American Political Prints 1766-1876 | Medium Image > ... image is of a black woman, supposedly Johnson's mulatto mistress Julia > Chinn. She sits on a small knoll holding a bag, > http://www.loc.harpweek.com/LCPoliticalCartoons/IndexDisplayCartoonMedium.as > p?SourceIndex=People&IndexText=Johnson,+Richard+M.&UniqueID=15&Year=1836 > > Julia Chinn and Traveling Church > http://ccharity.com/discus/messages/13/357.html?SaturdayMay2720001003pm > > The descendants of William Johnston/Johnson have many African American blood > relatives; the story of Julia Chinn and the political times in which they > lived relative to the slavery and the established of the American government > are quite interesting. Equally interesting is the inter-connectedness of > those Virginia or Southern families. > > My ancestors were slaves of the JOHNSON family in Missouri -- brought there > from Bourbon Co., KY and Culpepper Co., VA among others. > > traci wilson-kleekamp > african americans in missouri > http://www.missouri-slave-data.org > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Just a thought.... Current students and alumni can generally use the ILL through their alma mater's library if you are close by. I have ordered gen research materials in that manner; however, our county library presently participates in the ILL system. Kathleen Bowen Ridge Manor, Florida...Genealogy - It's Relative!! katbowen@earthlink.net (Back-up: kbowen@hotmail.com) http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=katbowen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Thomas" <LThomas333@cox.net> To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:48 PM Subject: [VACULPEP] Interlibrary Loan problem > I live in a small town too and my library was not wanting to do ILL, but > by doing most of the work myself, like getting call numbers at the > source library (LOV, in fact) and paying for postage to return the > books, I talked them into it. Can't hurt to try. > > Laura > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret Davis [mailto:msealock32@msn.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:52 AM > To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA > > Prince George and the library in Laurel does not do interlibrary loan > from Virginia. They told me you have to go to a large library like Pratt > etc. I tried at the new one in Anne Arundel near Russett and they don't > either. Their genealogy section other that historical maps etc is about > one foot long. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anne W. Bradshaw Musser > To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:36 PM > Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA > > > What county are you? I live in Montgomery Co. and we have ILL. > Anne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Margaret Davis > To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA > > > That would be a good way to get the information, but I for one can > not because our libraries here in Maryland will not honor interlibrary > loans. And it would really be easy. But a lot of times LDS libraries > have a lot of these films so you might get them there and maybe that > would help also. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patricia A. Baber > To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:32 PM > Subject: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA > > > It seems that some of you are in need of Culpeper records. The > Library of Virginia has most of those records on microfilm. The list of > Culpeper records is at: > > http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/culpeper > .htm > If the film has an ILL beside it, it means that it is available > for interlibrary loan. You can go to any public library, fill out a > form and have the film sent there for you to view and copy. Unlike some > libraries, LVA does not charge anything for this service. I have > borrowed many of their films through ILL. > Good luck, > Pat Baber > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing > list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to > VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, > send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if > you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will > be grounds for removal. 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I live in a small town too and my library was not wanting to do ILL, but by doing most of the work myself, like getting call numbers at the source library (LOV, in fact) and paying for postage to return the books, I talked them into it. Can't hurt to try. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Davis [mailto:msealock32@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:52 AM To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA Prince George and the library in Laurel does not do interlibrary loan from Virginia. They told me you have to go to a large library like Pratt etc. I tried at the new one in Anne Arundel near Russett and they don't either. Their genealogy section other that historical maps etc is about one foot long. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne W. Bradshaw Musser To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA What county are you? I live in Montgomery Co. and we have ILL. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret Davis To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA That would be a good way to get the information, but I for one can not because our libraries here in Maryland will not honor interlibrary loans. And it would really be easy. But a lot of times LDS libraries have a lot of these films so you might get them there and maybe that would help also. ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia A. Baber To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:32 PM Subject: [VACULPEP] Culpeper records at LVA It seems that some of you are in need of Culpeper records. The Library of Virginia has most of those records on microfilm. The list of Culpeper records is at: http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/culpeper .htm If the film has an ILL beside it, it means that it is available for interlibrary loan. You can go to any public library, fill out a form and have the film sent there for you to view and copy. Unlike some libraries, LVA does not charge anything for this service. I have borrowed many of their films through ILL. Good luck, Pat Baber ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Joyce, There are only two Thomas Brown's listed in "Culpeper County, Virginia Marriages 1780-1853" compiled by John Vogt & T. William Kethley, Jr. Thomas C. Brown & Frances H. Giffin 23 Dec 1814; min - Lewis Conner (Baptist) Thomas Brown & Elener Weatherall 8 Mar 1796; min William Mason (Baptist) There were many Thomas Browns in Culpeper and the surrounding counties. I descended from one of them, and so far I have been unable to locate a marriage record for mine. Good luck with yours, Lillie From: PINKTAFETA@aol.com To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:28:52 EDT Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Piner/Swindle marriage Message-ID: <97.3b60f123.2c3d80a4@aol.com> Lillie, can you do a marriage lookup for me? I am interested in the Thomas Brown Family. He left Va.about 1800 for Ky. Some of his children's names, according to Ky. deeds, were Thomas, Charles, Phoebe, Cytha, Philadelphia, and Molly. Some of these children were living in Va in the late !830s, others already deceased. I do not know Thomas Sr.'s spouse name. I hope I haven't inconvienced you. Thank you for your time. Joyce in Ky.

My husband's GAUNT/CORBIN line has a SWINDLER/SWINDLE connection. I don't have this information with me (business trip), but will obtain information and post in a few days. Linda Cashen Gaunt

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I followed with great interest the latest postings on BROWNS in Culpeper Co., Va. My GGGG Grandfather was ANDREW BROWN born 1769 Culpeper Co., Va. he married MARGARETTE ADAMS in 1794. He is buried in Elbert Co., Ga. at Holly Springs Baptist Church. He has always been recognized as Revolutionary Soldier and is buried under DAR monument. Brown researchers have sought for years to prove a father for Andrew Brown. Living in Elbert/Wilkes Co. during the 1790's is also a William Brown. Andrew did name his first born child (a son), William. Also many of the pioneer families that settled Wilkes/Elbert Co., Ga. following the Rev. War, were the Maxwells (who are intermarried with the Pembertons), Higginbothams, Tyners, Thompsons, Ruckers, Teasleys, Browns, Woods, Adams. I am descended from all these with exception of the Pembertons. I have tons of information on these familes and I am also DAR under William Rucker who was Rev. Soldier from Va. and son of Peter Rucker. A large party of Virginians came to the Savannah River Valley area (then Wilkes Co., Ga) with General George Mathews to settle on land grants after the Revolution. Mathews later became Gov. of Ga. These old line Virginia families were already much intermarried, esp. the Ruckers, Teasleys. There are a good number of these families outlines in the book "Thomas Maxwell of Virginia and Georgia and his Descendants", and a number of Allie Families", by Annie Norman, Helen Maxwell Longino, and Annie Lou Maxwell. I found this book in the Archives in Atlanta, Ga. If anyone can help me with finding out who was the Father of my Andrew Brown who married Margarette Adams, please correspond. I recently acquired a book on "ABSTRACTS from the County Court Minute Book of Culpeper Co., Va. 1763--1764", aby A.M. Prichard. In this book there is mention of these BROWNS: Coleman: Daniel: Francis: Garfield: James: John: Nathaniel: Stephen and William. The Thomas Maxwell Family is also from Culpeper Co., Va. and his wife was Mary Pemberton. I note this here because of the other post about Browns and Pembertons. Thank You: Karen Thompson Ledford/Toccoa, Ga. http://www.alltel.net/~ktledford/menworegrey

Traci - in our family history, we find in wills of HAYNES in Culpeper Co., VA -- and some later in Elbert Co., GA -- as well in Callaway & Saline Cos., MO named slaves...later in the post-Civil War Census household Negroes are found, suggesting, I would conjecture, they are former slaves having been freed. Also, our HURT family in the Fauquier-Culpeper Co. VA-area had a number of slaves in the Censuses. This information is especially of interest to us, as, I'm sure there are many cousins out there...I'm at a loss on how to proceed, since, of course, most records have the slaves as a #, or, in some cases, there are first names given (no last names, of course...and, furthermore, many slaves' names were changed for several reasons). Also, as we are a bi-racial family, this is of special interest to us. Good luck. Paul Haynes in Ann Arbor, MI Native of Nevada, MO Father native of Marshall, MO Paul ...Your family is one of nature's masterpieces (my fortune-cookie fortune!)

I don't know Waunita. I am just trying to put them together in Va. My Thomas Brown left before 1800 for Ky. Many of his children remained. I just found the marriage of his daughter,Cytha, in Fredricksburg Va in 1783. I am getting a feel for St. Marks Church, which had a Brown Family history. Don't know how to get into the church records yet. Joyce

I have a T. R. Brown born ca. 1836 in Culpeper, son of Robert and Ann Brown, who took for a second wife, Nellie Pemberton whom he married on 10 Jan 1884. He had an earlier wife (name unknown) by whom there was a son, Willie or William born Dec 1863. I am connected to the Pemberton side. Anyone out there who know about this family? "Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." Ralph Waldo Emerson Deb Koplen http://home.swbell.net/koplend/ koplend@swbell.net Grand Prairie, TX MSN Instant Messenger: Freckles6932 "Right Smak dab between Dallas & Fort Worth" -----Original Message----- From: Waunita M Herron [mailto:wmherron@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:41 AM To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fw: Re: [VACULPEP] BROWN & PEDEN marriage date? JOYCE: I am told that my G. Grandfather JOHN BROWN, was born in Culpeper, VA. I do know the exact date of his birth as it is written on his tombstone in Miami Co. KS. JOHN BROWN was born June 24, 1801. JOHN BROWN married RACHEL PEDEN about 1828 as their first child ALEXANDER P. BROWN was born in VA about 1829. Is it possible that your THOMAS BROWN was related? Waunita M (BROWN) Herron (in WA) --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: PINKTAFETA@aol.com To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:28:52 EDT Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Piner/Swindle marriage Message-ID: <97.3b60f123.2c3d80a4@aol.com> Lillie, can you do a marriage lookup for me? I am interested in the Thomas Brown Family. He left Va.about 1800 for Ky. Some of his children's names, according to Ky. deeds, were Thomas, Charles, Phoebe, Cytha, Philadelphia, and Molly. Some of these children were living in Va in the late !830s, others already deceased. I do not know Thomas Sr.'s spouse name. I hope I haven't inconvienced you. Thank you for your time. Joyce in Ky. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR GARRETT IN YHE TOWN OF CULPEPER YOU WANT FIND ANY THEY HAVE IT SPELLED GARNETT ALL THE RECORDS IN THE LIBRARY AND COURT HOUSE RECORDS AQRE LISTED LIKE THIS MY HUSBAND WHO IS A GARRETT AND I WENT UP THERE COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING JUST A NICE TRIP ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Schenk Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:50 PM To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [VACULPEP] Trip to Culpepper I cant say for sure when I'll go to Culpeper... its about an hour drive from me. I hope to visit this summer though and spend a day going through old records. What would be helpful since I'm new to this sort of field research would be if someone could tell me where exactly in Culpeper to go to see these records, if I need to make an appointment, if there are fees involved, etc. Can I just show up at the courthouse and say "I'm here to find some old books"? On 09-Jul-2003 Debra Rookard wrote: > Craig, > > You are a good man indeed. > > I am seeking the Wills of: > > Joseph Blackwell > Book B, pgs 397, 398 > 21 Aug 1780 > (follows that of William Crawford) > > Probate > Book B, pg 466 > 19 Nov 1784 > > James Blackwell > Book C, pg 53 > > I am most happy to reimburse your time and expenses, > Debra > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Tom, I was just there, Great Crossing. I did not drive back to see the house. The school site has a fense around it and a historical marker. Both the town and site are very near the North Fork of Elkhorn Creek. This was an old buffalo trace. The herds were on their way to Stamping Ground, a small town a few miles west. Salt licks were their. My interest was Thomas Brown Sr.who possibly taught at the Indian school. Thomas came from Culpeper Co., Va His grand children were born there. Do you have any Browns in your family line? Interesting isn't it. Joyce in Ky.