Gee Whiz, Lisa, I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. I'll take note of your protest and mark it down in my little red book. I sure wouldn't want to impose my presence upon you any more than I have too. Forgive me for breathing. Ron Thompson Andalusia, Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Baggett" <lisabaggett@mindspring.com> To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Reply to Donna Boyd > This is very simple: if you have messages for just one then just e-mail that > one. Here is a perfect example. > > The list does not care about your one reply. But, like you, I will respond > to everyone. > > Lisa Allen Bagett > > -------Original Message------- > > From: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:10:31 > To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VACULPEP] Reply to Donna Boyd > > Donna, > > Thank you for the praise but there have been a whole lot of people go out of > their way to gather information and provide help to me in the past. > > I'm just trying in a small way to repay what these dear friends have done > for me. > > Ron Thompson > Andalusia, Alabama > > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > . > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is very simple: if you have messages for just one then just e-mail that one. Here is a perfect example. The list does not care about your one reply. But, like you, I will respond to everyone. Lisa Allen Bagett -------Original Message------- From: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:10:31 To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VACULPEP] Reply to Donna Boyd Donna, Thank you for the praise but there have been a whole lot of people go out of their way to gather information and provide help to me in the past. I'm just trying in a small way to repay what these dear friends have done for me. Ron Thompson Andalusia, Alabama ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

Wow, even more confusion... these are a completely different set of children than the ones I have. This has to be a different set of people, or else one of these genealogies is wrong on some detail or another. On 16-Jul-2003 RJFJBF@aol.com wrote: > 1850 Rockingham Census > Thomas Piner age 74 > Elizabeth 68 > Willis 22 Male > Sannia 22 female (not sure of this spelling) > Elsy 2 > Sedora 1 month > Margaret C. 7 > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are > on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

> > > >I would like to extend to everyone an invitation to meet with me during my trip who might like to....if I possibly can I will attempt to do some genealogical research for anyone who has connections with these people and places. > How incredibly thoughtful and generous, Ron! Have a safe, happy trip! Donna

Donna, Thank you for the praise but there have been a whole lot of people go out of their way to gather information and provide help to me in the past. I'm just trying in a small way to repay what these dear friends have done for me. Ron Thompson Andalusia, Alabama

I have a Susanna(h) PINER m'd Edmund ARCHER in Culpeper Co. in 1788 by Isham Tatum. I don't know if this Susannah is a sister(?) to the Thomas PINER being discussed. Would love to work with anyone with information on these lines. Diana Craig Busche -- TheCalmOne@kconline.com **************************** One day I shall burst my buds of calm and *blossom* into full hysteria **************************** http://members.tripod.com/~TheCalmOne/

1850 Rockingham Census Thomas Piner age 74 Elizabeth 68 Willis 22 Male Sannia 22 female (not sure of this spelling) Elsy 2 Sedora 1 month Margaret C. 7

1850 Rappahannock County, Va Census September 4, 1850 Household #132 James W. Swindler age 23 Farmer Lucy L. 35 John W. 5 Henry M. 4 James M. 3 Adaiade 6/12 (6 months old) Living next door is: Household #133 Ellen Swindler age 55 Value of Real estate $1000. Eliza C. 22 Albert 20 Aylette A. 18 Mary A. 16 Sarah E. 14 Household# 137 Henry Menefee 66 Farmer Value of Real estate $6800

Anyone related to the following people who know what this court case was all about: On 7 November 1864, an order summoning John S. Pemberton, Lewis P. Nelson, Alfred L. Ashby, James Keys, Robert Triplett, William C. Jameson, James W. lnskeep, Robert Williams, John Williams, B. U. McCoy, A. J, Stofer, Walter Robertson, Kemp Beckham to give evidence before the Grand Jury was issued. (Will Books B & C). "Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." Ralph Waldo Emerson Deb Koplen http://home.swbell.net/koplend/ koplend@swbell.net Grand Prairie, TX MSN Instant Messenger: Freckles6932 "Right Smak dab between Dallas & Fort Worth" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Herein lies the mystery... Ive seen this, as well as near identical genealogies which show that Thomas Piner's wife was not Elizabeth Swindler daugher of John Swindler of this line but rather Elizabeth Swindler daughter of Germanna colonist Hannah Weaver and John Swindle (half English colonial, half Germanna colonial). Thomas Piner lived and married in Culpeper. John and Hannah and their daughter Elizabeth Swindle also lived in Culpeper. John Swindler and his daughter Elizabeth lived in Fairfax... not TOO far (a little over an hour by car today, so, a few days ride by horse). The Swindlers did move from Fairfax, Ohio, Rappahanock, and even Culpeper, so it is possible. Given how often names were spelled variantly, and given that secondary sources indicating it was E. Swindle of Culpeper far outnumber the sources indicating E. Swinder of Fairfax... I kind of wonder if she may be the proper one. Also, there is no record of the Germanna Elizabeth Swindle ever marrying. There's lots of documentation on the other Swindle kids marrying off, but Elizabeth sort of drops off the map in the Germanna records I've seen. The dates are pretty well matched too. Thomas Piner lived 1773-1829. Elizabeth Swindle lived 1774 to an unknown date. Thomas and Elizabeth married 22 Dec 1791. Also, consider that the family moved westward to Kentucky, and I've turned up the following... They had Children: Presley, about 1794; Richardson Owen, 1806; John Evans, 1809; Margaret M., unknown; James G., unknown; William C., unknown; Thomas A., unknown. 1820 census shows a Thomas Piner in Boone County, KY, as head of a household with 3 males under 10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 16-18, 2 males 18-25, 1 male 45+, 2 females 45+, and one male slave under 14 years old. It also indicates that 4 males in the home were in the agriculture business. The 1830 census no longer has Thomas Piner, but has an Elizabeth Piner who was probably his widow (note the similar family make-up: 3 males under 5, 2 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 2 females 20-30, 1 female 50-60, 1 female 80-90, 1 males slave 24-36; 1 person deaf & dumb over age 25). Related Germanna families ended up in the same area of Boone KY and show up on the same census pages. The genealogy below doesnt match. It lists Thomas Piner as being born 1771, but dying in 1811. It lists Elizabeth Swindler as 1771-1808. This would have Elizabeth dead a year before her 3rd son's birth. I can think of a few possibilities... 1) The Thomas Piner I descend from married Elizabeth Swindle, daughter of Hannah Weaver and John Swindle, and the court record just added an R to her name. The Elizabeth Swindler in the genealogy either married a different Thomas Piner or else the genealogies just somehow got confused by the single marriage record I've heard of, which indicates a Thomas Piner and Elizabeth Swindler (with R) marrying on 22 Dec. 1791 in Culpeper. This is my preferred theory at the moment 2) The genealogy below is correct and Thomas Piner married Elizabeth Swindler (who at some point moved from Fairfax to Culpeper - seems some of her family did, so that's not absurd), but the death dates given are wrong or else the census data indicating a longer life and my records of more children are wrong. I'd need to find more information to see if this couple had children and could be my ancestors 3) The Thomas Piner and Elizabeth Swindler in the genealogy below are two different people who were born with similar names around the similar time and ended up marrying at some point, making for a two very similar couples in one town... somewhat odd. A few other interpretations as well, of course. I think the key here is to find out more about the Elizabeth Swindle from Culpeper and the Elizabeth Swindler from Fairfax. Thomas Piner (from Culpeper) was the son of an indentured servant (probably English) who was living in Culpeper at least as of 1764. Thomas was born 1773. Elizabeth Swindle descended from a long line of Swindle, Swindell, etc ancestors who were indentured servants in Jamestown who migrated towards the Culpeper frontier and married into at least 2 Germanna families (the Crees/Greys and Weavers/Webers). The Elizabeth Swindler below was daughter of a John Swindler (doesnt help the confusion much that both Elizabeths had fathers named John). Elizabeth was born in the pretty old and ritzy town of Fairfax, a far cry from the frontier farmland of Culpeper. John Swindler came from New Jersey, and I don't know anything much else about him. It seems to me like the Fairfax Swinders could be from somewhat higher social classes than the frontier farmers the Swindles and Piners... which may not have had an impact on which of the two Thomas was more likely to have met and married. Hard to say without finding out more on all three (four?) individials. Fortunately I am in driving distance of Fairfax and Culpeper. Anyone know how I might go about looking for old records in these areas? On 16-Jul-2003 RRG410@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > I previously posted information that my husband's line (GAUNT/CORBIN) shows > a > SWINDLER/PINER connection. > > Here's the information that I have: > > Descendants of Henry Swindler > > 1 Henry Swindler > .. +Mary Clayton > ....... 2 John Swindler 1747 - 1803 b: Abt. 1747 in Cranbury, NJ > d: Abt. 1803 in Culpeper Co, VA > ........... +Chloe Turley 1747 - 1804 b: Abt. 1747 in Fairfax Co., > Virginia m: Abt. 1768 in Frederick Co., VA d: Aft. 1804 in > Culpeper Co, VA > ................ 3 [2] Henry Boston Swindler 1769 - 1850 b: October > 22, 1769 in Fairfax Co., Virginia d: Bef. April 27, > 1850 in > Rappahannock Co., VA > .................... +Ellen Gaunt 1795 - 1877 b: 1795 in Culpeper > Co., VA Father: Andrew Gaunt Mother: Catherine Corbin d: > 1877 in Rappahannock Co., VA > .......................... 4 Eliza C. Swindler 1829 - b: Abt. 1829 in > Rappahannock Co., VA > .............................. +Horace N. Compton 1824 - b: Abt. 1824 > in Virginia m: November 16, 1854 in Rappahannock Co., VA > > .......................... 4 Albert Clayton Swindler 1831 - 1899 b: > September 04, 1831 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: A. C. > Swindler d: > 1899 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: A. C. Swindler > .............................. +Margaret Ann Burke 1832 - b: Bet. 1832 > - 1834 in Virginia m: November 25, 1858 in Rappahannock Co., VA > > .......................... 4 Aylette Elliott Swindler 1833 - 1894 b: > August 26, 1833 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: Elliott > d: > September 29, 1894 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: Elliott > .............................. +Mary A. Hamrick 1838 - 1915 b: > November 30, 1838 in Virginia m: February 13, 1855 in Rappahannock Co., VA > aka: Hambrick d: November 27, 1915 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: > Hambrick > .......................... 4 Mary Ann Swindler 1835 - b: 1835 in > Rappahannock Co., VA > .............................. +Major Dillard Racer 1830 - b: Abt. > 1830 m: September 14, 1854 in Rappahannock Co., VA Father: John Racer > Mother: Martha Patsey Sims > .......................... 4 [1] James William Swindler 1827 - 1905 b: > April 14, 1827 in Culpeper Co, VA aka: Swinler d: > February > 23, 1905 in Greene Co., Ohio aka: Swinler > .............................. +Lucy Catherine Johnson 1826 - 1882 b: > Abt. 1826 in Rappahannock Co., VA m: June 19, 1845 in Rappahannock Co., VA > d: July 08, 1882 in Greene Co., Ohio > .......................... *2nd Wife of [1] James William Swindler: > > .............................. +Sarah Anne Shane 1850 - 1892 b: Abt. > 1850 in Greene Co., Ohio m: Abt. 1883 in Greene Co., Ohio > d: August 06, 1892 in Greene Co., Ohio > .......................... 4 Sarah Elizabeth Swindler 1836 - 1853 b: > September 29, 1836 in Rappahannock Co., VA d: August 23, > 1853 in Rappahannock Co., VA > ................ *2nd Wife of [2] Henry Boston Swindler: > > .................... +Peggy Boston m: October 26, 1796 in > Culpeper Co., VA > .......................... 4 Ruben Swindler > > .......................... 4 Henry Swindler > > .......................... 4 Lucy Swindler > > .............................. +Matthews > > .......................... 4 Henritta x Swindler > > .............................. +Benjamin x Peyton m: March 16, > 1815 > .......................... 4 Chloe Swindler 1812 - b: Abt. 1812 in > Virginia > .......................... 4 Ellen Swindler - 1850 > d: Bef. 1850 > .............................. +Henry S. Menefee 1803 - b: Abt. 1803 > in Virginia Father: Henry Menefee > .......................... 4 Maria Swindler > > .............................. +Martin Porter > > ................ 3 Chloe Swindler 1771 - b: Abt. 1771 in Fairfax Co., > Virginia > .................... +Elias Campbell m: March 10, 1796 in > Culpeper Co., VA > .......................... 4 Cassey Campbell 1813 - b: Abt. 1813 in > Madison Co., VA > .............................. +George Campbell > > ................ 3 Elizabeth Swindler 1771 - 1808 b: Abt. 1771 in > Fairfax Co., Virginia d: 1808 > .................... +Thomas Piner 1777 - 1811 b: 1777 > d: 1811 > ................ 3 Anne Swindler 1773 - b: Abt. 1773 in Fairfax Co., > Virginia > .................... +John Barger 1772 - b: Abt. 1772 in Culpeper > Co, VA m: August 03, 1793 in Culpeper Co., VA > ................ 3 John Swindler 1776 - b: Abt. 1776 in Botetourt > Co., VA > .................... +Rachael Fryer 1776 - 1832 b: 1776 > d: 1832 > ................ 3 Jesse Swindler 1782 - b: Abt. 1782 in Culpeper Co, > VA > .................... +Ammy Lewis > ................ 3 [3] James T. Swindler 1786 - 1848 b: February 10, > 1786 in Culpeper Co, VA d: 1848 > .................... +Caty M. Estey 1787 - 1849 b: 1787 > d: 1849 > ................ *2nd Wife of [3] James T. Swindler: > > .................... +Eliza C. Vincent 1786 - 1802 b: 1786 > d: 1802 > ................ *3rd Wife of [3] James T. Swindler: > > .................... +Lucy J. Mathews 1786 - 1802 b: 1786 > d: 1802 > ................ 3 Clayton T. Swindler 1792 - 1823 b: Abt. 1792 in > Culpeper Co, VA d: 1823 > .................... +Sarah Ann Bryant 1786 - 1822 b: 1786 > d: 1822 > ................ 3 Henritta Swindler 1790 - 1820 b: 1790 > d: 1820 > .................... +Benjamin Peyton 1768 - 1820 b: 1768 m: 1815 > in Culpeper Co., VA d: 1820 > ....... 2 Henry Swindler > ....... 2 Samuel Swindler > ....... 2 Elisha Swindler > ....... 2 Joseph Swindler > ....... 2 Mary Swindler > ....... 2 David Swindler > ....... 2 Jonathan Swindler > > Sources: > > Henry Swindler/Mary Clayton; > > Probate: 21 DEC 1792 Loudoun Co. VA, Will Books D&E, pp.334-5 pp.38-9 > > Rev. Frank R. Symmes, compiler, History of Old Tennent Church, > 2nd ed. (Cranbury, N.j..: George W. Burroughs, Printer, 1904), pp. > 178-181, lists subscribers. Located Monmouth County Historical Society > Library, Freehold, NJ. Author. (information given to me by another Swindler > Researcher, James Wichman) > > Henry Boston Swindler; > > Allied Families of Read, Corbin, Luttrell, and Bywaters pg 132 > date of birth > > DEEDS - Rappahannock County, Virginia > > WILL INDEX - Rappahannock County, Virginia > Henry Boston Swindler - appraised 27 Apr 1850 Book C, pp 99, 132, 271 > > Rappahannock County Historical Society >#406 Chancery: Menefee vs Swindler 1850-1877 > Henry S. Menefee & wife Ellen > Henry Swindler d. early 1850 interstate, 2 tracts of land, 180 acres & > 6 3/4 acres, Considerable personal estate to pay debts. > widow Ellen (second wife) > Children: James W., Albert G., Elliot (Aylette), Eliza, Mary, > Elizabeth, all under 21 years of age. > > Children by first wife: Ruben - Putnam Co. Va., Henry Jr.- not in Va., > Lucy Matthew's widow, Henrietta wife of Benjamin Peyton, Chloe, Ellen wife > of > Henry S. Menefee > > Children of dec'd. dau Maria who m. Martin Porter, also dead: Thomas > Porter, William Porter, Missouri Porter, Martinette Porter. > > Admin. James W. Swindler > each heir entitled to 1/13 - impossible to divide land, asks immediate > assignment of dower to widow, then sale of remainder & division of proceeds. > > Ellen Swindler/Thomas Piner; > > ID: I0652 > Name: Elizabeth Swindler > Sex: F > Birth: ABT. 1771 in Fairfax Co. VA > Reference Number: 129 > Note: > Reference "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper County, VA. > Embracing a Revised and Enlarged Edition of Dr. Philip Slaughter's > History of St Mark's Parish, by Raleeigh Travers Green (1900) page 51. > > > Father: Rev. John Swindler b: ABT. 1747 in Cranbury, NJ > Mother: Chloe Turley b: ABT. 1747 in Fairfax Co. VA > > Marriage 1 Thomas Piner b: 10 MAR 1743/44 in Culpeper Co. VA > Married: 22 DEC 1791 in Culpeper Co. VA > Note: > "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper Co. VA" Embracing a > Revised and Enlarged Edition of Dr. Philip Slaughter's History of St. > Mark's Parish by Raleigh Travers Green, 1900, p. 51. > > I have not personally verified all of these facts. > > Hopes this gives you some help, > Linda Cashen Gaunt > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if you are > on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, I previously posted information that my husband's line (GAUNT/CORBIN) shows a SWINDLER/PINER connection. Here's the information that I have: Descendants of Henry Swindler 1 Henry Swindler .. +Mary Clayton ....... 2 John Swindler 1747 - 1803 b: Abt. 1747 in Cranbury, NJ d: Abt. 1803 in Culpeper Co, VA ........... +Chloe Turley 1747 - 1804 b: Abt. 1747 in Fairfax Co., Virginia m: Abt. 1768 in Frederick Co., VA d: Aft. 1804 in Culpeper Co, VA ................ 3 [2] Henry Boston Swindler 1769 - 1850 b: October 22, 1769 in Fairfax Co., Virginia d: Bef. April 27, 1850 in Rappahannock Co., VA .................... +Ellen Gaunt 1795 - 1877 b: 1795 in Culpeper Co., VA Father: Andrew Gaunt Mother: Catherine Corbin d: 1877 in Rappahannock Co., VA .......................... 4 Eliza C. Swindler 1829 - b: Abt. 1829 in Rappahannock Co., VA .............................. +Horace N. Compton 1824 - b: Abt. 1824 in Virginia m: November 16, 1854 in Rappahannock Co., VA .......................... 4 Albert Clayton Swindler 1831 - 1899 b: September 04, 1831 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: A. C. Swindler d: 1899 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: A. C. Swindler .............................. +Margaret Ann Burke 1832 - b: Bet. 1832 - 1834 in Virginia m: November 25, 1858 in Rappahannock Co., VA .......................... 4 Aylette Elliott Swindler 1833 - 1894 b: August 26, 1833 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: Elliott d: September 29, 1894 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: Elliott .............................. +Mary A. Hamrick 1838 - 1915 b: November 30, 1838 in Virginia m: February 13, 1855 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: Hambrick d: November 27, 1915 in Rappahannock Co., VA aka: Hambrick .......................... 4 Mary Ann Swindler 1835 - b: 1835 in Rappahannock Co., VA .............................. +Major Dillard Racer 1830 - b: Abt. 1830 m: September 14, 1854 in Rappahannock Co., VA Father: John Racer Mother: Martha Patsey Sims .......................... 4 [1] James William Swindler 1827 - 1905 b: April 14, 1827 in Culpeper Co, VA aka: Swinler d: February 23, 1905 in Greene Co., Ohio aka: Swinler .............................. +Lucy Catherine Johnson 1826 - 1882 b: Abt. 1826 in Rappahannock Co., VA m: June 19, 1845 in Rappahannock Co., VA d: July 08, 1882 in Greene Co., Ohio .......................... *2nd Wife of [1] James William Swindler: .............................. +Sarah Anne Shane 1850 - 1892 b: Abt. 1850 in Greene Co., Ohio m: Abt. 1883 in Greene Co., Ohio d: August 06, 1892 in Greene Co., Ohio .......................... 4 Sarah Elizabeth Swindler 1836 - 1853 b: September 29, 1836 in Rappahannock Co., VA d: August 23, 1853 in Rappahannock Co., VA ................ *2nd Wife of [2] Henry Boston Swindler: .................... +Peggy Boston m: October 26, 1796 in Culpeper Co., VA .......................... 4 Ruben Swindler .......................... 4 Henry Swindler .......................... 4 Lucy Swindler .............................. +Matthews .......................... 4 Henritta x Swindler .............................. +Benjamin x Peyton m: March 16, 1815 .......................... 4 Chloe Swindler 1812 - b: Abt. 1812 in Virginia .......................... 4 Ellen Swindler - 1850 d: Bef. 1850 .............................. +Henry S. Menefee 1803 - b: Abt. 1803 in Virginia Father: Henry Menefee .......................... 4 Maria Swindler .............................. +Martin Porter ................ 3 Chloe Swindler 1771 - b: Abt. 1771 in Fairfax Co., Virginia .................... +Elias Campbell m: March 10, 1796 in Culpeper Co., VA .......................... 4 Cassey Campbell 1813 - b: Abt. 1813 in Madison Co., VA .............................. +George Campbell ................ 3 Elizabeth Swindler 1771 - 1808 b: Abt. 1771 in Fairfax Co., Virginia d: 1808 .................... +Thomas Piner 1777 - 1811 b: 1777 d: 1811 ................ 3 Anne Swindler 1773 - b: Abt. 1773 in Fairfax Co., Virginia .................... +John Barger 1772 - b: Abt. 1772 in Culpeper Co, VA m: August 03, 1793 in Culpeper Co., VA ................ 3 John Swindler 1776 - b: Abt. 1776 in Botetourt Co., VA .................... +Rachael Fryer 1776 - 1832 b: 1776 d: 1832 ................ 3 Jesse Swindler 1782 - b: Abt. 1782 in Culpeper Co, VA .................... +Ammy Lewis ................ 3 [3] James T. Swindler 1786 - 1848 b: February 10, 1786 in Culpeper Co, VA d: 1848 .................... +Caty M. Estey 1787 - 1849 b: 1787 d: 1849 ................ *2nd Wife of [3] James T. Swindler: .................... +Eliza C. Vincent 1786 - 1802 b: 1786 d: 1802 ................ *3rd Wife of [3] James T. Swindler: .................... +Lucy J. Mathews 1786 - 1802 b: 1786 d: 1802 ................ 3 Clayton T. Swindler 1792 - 1823 b: Abt. 1792 in Culpeper Co, VA d: 1823 .................... +Sarah Ann Bryant 1786 - 1822 b: 1786 d: 1822 ................ 3 Henritta Swindler 1790 - 1820 b: 1790 d: 1820 .................... +Benjamin Peyton 1768 - 1820 b: 1768 m: 1815 in Culpeper Co., VA d: 1820 ....... 2 Henry Swindler ....... 2 Samuel Swindler ....... 2 Elisha Swindler ....... 2 Joseph Swindler ....... 2 Mary Swindler ....... 2 David Swindler ....... 2 Jonathan Swindler Sources: Henry Swindler/Mary Clayton; Probate: 21 DEC 1792 Loudoun Co. VA, Will Books D&E, pp.334-5 pp.38-9 Rev. Frank R. Symmes, compiler, History of Old Tennent Church, 2nd ed. (Cranbury, N.j..: George W. Burroughs, Printer, 1904), pp. 178-181, lists subscribers. Located Monmouth County Historical Society Library, Freehold, NJ. Author. (information given to me by another Swindler Researcher, James Wichman) Henry Boston Swindler; Allied Families of Read, Corbin, Luttrell, and Bywaters pg 132 date of birth DEEDS - Rappahannock County, Virginia WILL INDEX - Rappahannock County, Virginia Henry Boston Swindler - appraised 27 Apr 1850 Book C, pp 99, 132, 271 Rappahannock County Historical Society #406 Chancery: Menefee vs Swindler 1850-1877 Henry S. Menefee & wife Ellen Henry Swindler d. early 1850 interstate, 2 tracts of land, 180 acres & 6 3/4 acres, Considerable personal estate to pay debts. widow Ellen (second wife) Children: James W., Albert G., Elliot (Aylette), Eliza, Mary, Elizabeth, all under 21 years of age. Children by first wife: Ruben - Putnam Co. Va., Henry Jr.- not in Va., Lucy Matthew's widow, Henrietta wife of Benjamin Peyton, Chloe, Ellen wife of Henry S. Menefee Children of dec'd. dau Maria who m. Martin Porter, also dead: Thomas Porter, William Porter, Missouri Porter, Martinette Porter. Admin. James W. Swindler each heir entitled to 1/13 - impossible to divide land, asks immediate assignment of dower to widow, then sale of remainder & division of proceeds. Ellen Swindler/Thomas Piner; ID: I0652 Name: Elizabeth Swindler Sex: F Birth: ABT. 1771 in Fairfax Co. VA Reference Number: 129 Note: Reference "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper County, VA. Embracing a Revised and Enlarged Edition of Dr. Philip Slaughter's History of St Mark's Parish, by Raleeigh Travers Green (1900) page 51. Father: Rev. John Swindler b: ABT. 1747 in Cranbury, NJ Mother: Chloe Turley b: ABT. 1747 in Fairfax Co. VA Marriage 1 Thomas Piner b: 10 MAR 1743/44 in Culpeper Co. VA Married: 22 DEC 1791 in Culpeper Co. VA Note: "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper Co. VA" Embracing a Revised and Enlarged Edition of Dr. Philip Slaughter's History of St. Mark's Parish by Raleigh Travers Green, 1900, p. 51. I have not personally verified all of these facts. Hopes this gives you some help, Linda Cashen Gaunt

The name Benoni is commonly found in New England families.

Gee, that makes my ancestor's name, Moses Haynes, seem normal!! Patricia Haynes -----Original Message----- From: Bob Juch [mailto:bobjuch@spamcop.speedera.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:56 PM To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [VACULPEP] Benoni and Jacob Kendrick Try brothers Shadrach, Meshack, and Abendigo TURNER!!! Bob Juch http://www.Juch.org -----Original Message----- From: KDale60909@aol.com [mailto:KDale60909@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:20 PM To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Benoni and Jacob Kendrick The name Benoni is Biblical. In Genesis 35:18 Rachel names her last son Benoni or “son of my sorrow” but Jacob renamed him Benjamin “son of my right hand.” Our ancestors obviously knew the Bible well--they searched long and hard for Benoni--and try Karenhappach! Karen Dale ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ++++++CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE+++++ The information in this email may be confidential and/or privileged. This email is intended to be reviewed by only the individual or organization named above. If you are not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, or the information contained herein is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. Thank You.

The name Benoni is Biblical. In Genesis 35:18 Rachel names her last son Benoni or “son of my sorrow” but Jacob renamed him Benjamin “son of my right hand.” Our ancestors obviously knew the Bible well--they searched long and hard for Benoni--and try Karenhappach! Karen Dale

Can't help you with the origin of the name but you can add Benoni Nalls, a distant relative, to the list. Scott

Try brothers Shadrach, Meshack, and Abendigo TURNER!!! Bob Juch http://www.Juch.org -----Original Message----- From: KDale60909@aol.com [mailto:KDale60909@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:20 PM To: VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Benoni and Jacob Kendrick The name Benoni is Biblical. In Genesis 35:18 Rachel names her last son Benoni or “son of my sorrow” but Jacob renamed him Benjamin “son of my right hand.” Our ancestors obviously knew the Bible well--they searched long and hard for Benoni--and try Karenhappach! Karen Dale

Where did the name Benoni come from...do you know? We have come across a Benoni Mathes/Mathews...The only other time I have ever heard the name. Does anyone know?

Hello George, My G Grandfather JOHN BROWN was born in Culpeper Co, VA I am told. He was born June 24, 1801 as his tombstone told he was 6 days, 7 MO & 75 years old. He died Jan. 30, 1877. There were so many Brown's & JOHN BROWN'S in this area that I have been unable to make the connection with others in the family, JOHN BROWN married RACHEL PEDEN in about 1828 & their 1st child, ALEXANDER P. BROWN was born in VA in 1829. This Brown family then moved to (I believe) HAMILTON, OHIO and their son ISRAEL was born there in about 1831. In my research I find quite a few Brown's living in that area and perhaps some are relatives. JOHN & his little family moved on to Eugene TWP, Vermillion Co. IN. as he was a sawyer and there were several mills there. They lived there about 30 years according to US census, the last census in 1860 showing them. Nine more child were born to them at this location & some stayed in this area. Between 1860 & 1870 JOHN BROWN moved to Osage TWP, Miami Co. KS, where his oldest son ALEXANDER P. had a homestead and son BENJAMIN & ANDREW both lived in the area for a time. JOHN BROWN & several others in the family are buried in the FONTANA CEMETERY in the Osage Twp, Miami Co. PLEASE WRITE and tell me if you know of any connections to the Brown's in Culpeper. Thank You, Waunita M. (BROWN) Herron (in WA) ______________________________________ On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 23:12:20 -0500 "GEO DEVRIES" <mdgdevries@worldnet.att.net> writes: > I am interested in finding if my John is related to the Browns that > have > been in the list lately. My earliest John Brown was born in 1758 in > Culpeper Co., Va./ or 1764 England and married Lucy (Mary) Doggett.. > I am > told they are buried in Mt. Pony Cemetery in Culpeper County, > Virginia (but > have not be able to find anyone has seen the listing for this > burial.... > they had 13 known children....I have nothing on his ancestors; any > help > would be appreciated. > > Descendants of John Brown > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > 1. John2 Brown (John1) was born October 1758 in Rapidian River, > Culpeper > County, Virginia, and died December 31, 1834 in Sumter County, South > Carolina; conflicting location of Culpeper County, Virginia. He > married Lucy > "Mary" Doggett 1781 in Culpeper County, Virginia, daughter of Thomas > Doggett > and Bathsheba ?. She was born in Carolina County, Virginia, and died > in > Sumter County, South Carolina. > > > Children of John Brown and Lucy Doggett are: > > 2 i. John Doggett3 Brown, born 1789; died December 31, 1834 in > Culpeper > County, Virginia: MB 1866-1867 (The Doggett Family Home Page). He > married > Catherine Thomas Sample August 19, 1810 in Waterford, Loundoun > County, > Virginia; born 1789 in Loudoun County, Virginia. > > 3 ii. Sarah R. (Randolph) Brown, born February 08, 1795 in Virginia; > died in > Hillsboro, Highland County, Ohio. She married Spencer F. Doggett > October 18, > 1820; born October 18, 1796 in Culpeper County, Virginia; MB October > 18, > 1797; died November 23, 1847 in Hillsboro, Highland County, Ohio. > > 4 iii. Nimrod Brown, born March 29, 1796 in Culpeppr County, > Virginia; died > January 09, 1873 in Coryell County, Texas near the Community of > Flat. He > married Gracie Reece/Reese March 12, 1818 in Culpepper County, > Virginia; > conflicting marriage date of March 12, 1812 (Doggett Family Home > Page); born > October 19, 1796 in Culpeper County, Virginia.; died July 08, 1868 > in > Gatesville, Coryell County, Texas. > > 5 iv. Thomas Brown. > > 6 v. Walker Brown. He married Mollie Vaughn. > > 7 vi. Benjamin Brown. > > 8 vii. James Brown. > > 9 viii. Daniel Brown. He married Penelope Collins 1809. > > 10 ix. James Brown. > > 11 x. Mary Mardy Brown. > > 12 xi. Mildred Brown, died in Culpeper County, Virginia. She married > William > Doggett March 18, 1819 in Culpeper County, Virginia. > > 13 xii. Betsy Brown. > > 14 xiii. Lucy Brown, died in Culpeper County, Virginia. > > > > Is it possible my Browns connect to the ones below? > > > > Thanks you in advance for you kind assistance. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Cpzb4@aol.com> > To: <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:40 PM > Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Re: Thomas Brown > > > > 1750. A "Chapel of ease" was ordered at the Little Fork, and the > vestry > > agreed to meet at or near the old muster-field at the forks of the > road, > to choose > > the site, and contract with Thomas Brown to undertake it. > > (Source: Historical Notes on Culpeper County, VA...St. Mark's > Parish; > > Green Notes) > > > > The Brown Family (source same as above) > > There lies before me a patent for land in the South Fork of the > Gourdvine > > River, from Lord Fairfax, proprietor of the Northern Neck, to John > Brown; > he > > paying every year the free rent of one shilling sterling for every > 50 > acres, on > > the Feast of St. Michael the Archangel. It is dated 22d June, in > the 20th > year > > of our Sovereign Lord George II, by the grace of God King of Great > Britain, > > France and Ireland, and Defender of the Faith, A.D. 1749. > > (Signed) > > FAIRFAX > > The land was surveyed by Major Philip Clayton, and it adjoins the > land of > > Thomas Howison and William Brown. It appears in the vestry-book > that > Daniel Brown > > was sheriff and collector of the parish levy. > > Coleman Brown was clerk and lay reader in the church. Thomas > Brown was > > undertaker of a chapel in the Little Fork; and Capt. William Brown > was the > > contractor for an addition to Buck Run Church. These are the > ancestors of > the late > > Armistead and Daniel Brown ad their families. > > > > June > > > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing > list, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor if > you are > on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, > send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VACULPEP-L-request@rootsweb.comor > if you are on the Digest list to VACULPEP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! 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Thought I would see if in my absence from research, someone might have an interest in the Kendrick Family of Culpepper County, VA. Jacob Kendrick was born in 1722 and died in 1793 in Culpepper County, VA. Benoni Kendrick - his son was born in Culpepper Co. in 1758. He vacated the county, moving first to Kentucky and points west. Would love to correspond with anyone interested in this family. Candee Hoff Previously corresponded at genealogy6@aol.com new email address genealogysix@aol.com

Hello Everyone, Some of you may know me, some of you may not remember me and some of won't care but I would like to inform everyone that I will be heading to Pocahontas, Pendleton, Harrison, Marion Counties of West Virginia around the 20th of July for a McCartney Family Reunion in Fairmont, Harrison County, West Va. on the 26th. I plan on being in Pocahontas County on or about the 21st through the 23rd. Then I will travel north-northwesterly on to Shinnston, Harrison County, WV and staying for at least four or five days or leaving to come back to Alabama sometime around the 29th or 30th. I would like to extend to everyone an invitation to meet with me during my trip who might like to. I will only provide addresses and telephone numbers to those who respond to me by email before the 18th of this month because I don't wish to cause any of my relatives and kinfolk problems by giving out this private information. To the others whom don't know me from shinenola the reason I'm providing this information is that if I possibly can I will attempt to do some genealogical research for anyone who has connections with these people and places. Nothing to heavy because I just need to visit and be blessed by the love of my family for a while. Some of whom I haven't meet and others that I haven't seen but once or twice in my near 55 years. Some of the surnames of intersest are: Thompson, Robertson, Cochran, Rexroad, Crockett and others that I can't remember right now from the Virginia-West Virginia border areas of Pendleton and Pocahontas County. The others are Martin, McCartney, Hardin, Wright, McCune from the north-central portion of the state namely the counties of Harrison, Gilmer, Marion, Taylor, Barbour and Lewis. I look forward to hearing from any of you or all of you. Ron Thompson Andalusia, Alabama monk@wavezcom.com