I think it would be well worth your while to plug into the Germanna Colonies, you might want to search through the daily notes that John Blankenbaker publishes as he has quite a bit of info about these particular families. There Germanna Foundation site is: _www.germanna.org_ (http://www.germanna.org) and John's page is at: _www.germanna.com_ (http://www.germanna.com) Barb Price Researching: Holtzclaw/Otterbach/Fishback/Heimbach/Burnes/Hardy/Graham/Hardin....

Julius Crisler was born in the year 1767 Nov 12 Died May 5th 1833 Elizabeth Crisler was born in the year 1774 Dec 2nd Died Oct 23 1854 Where I do not know. If these sound like your relatives let me know. Dorothy Cox

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2880.1.1 Message Board Post: Donna: Adam Crisler and Elizabeth Crigler were my direct bloodline ancestors, but I've never done any research on these lines. My wife destroyed my gedcom and back-ups by downloading a virus, so now I get to start all over again. I don't know a great deal about the Germanna Colony, because most of my work has dealt with Colonial New England families. I do have a short list of marriages assembled for the Crigler and Crisler families, but mainly for Virginia and Kentucky. Craig

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/QBC.2ACI/2720.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Jeff, I tried to mail you an issue of "Culpeper Connections" some time ago, and it was returned by the Post Office. The e-mail address I had for you also bounced. Please contact me at [email protected] Thanks! Donna S. Boyd

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/QBC.2ACI/2880.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for posting this. These people were descendants of members of the Germanna Colony that settled in Culpeper and Madison very early. I suggest that you visit the Germanna web site and explore it thoroughly; are these your ancestors? You might, then, want to join their association. The spelling of the name has changed over the years, but surely you know someone who drives a Chrysler?.....

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/QBC.2ACI/2870.2 Message Board Post: Those lines that make up that circular arrangement indicate a hill. All the ////// lines around there also indicate hilly territory. I suspect that you have a map drawn during the Civil War by a Union cartographer (map maker). A compass rose would be clearly labeled with N, E, W, S points indicated, and the N line many times was longer than the others.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Goodwin: Edward his son William Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2886 Message Board Post: I live in Southern Indiana (Clark Co.) on a farm that has been in the Goodwin family since 1800's. Our published history states that my grandfather Edward Goodwin arrived from Wales to live in Culpeper County Virginia during the 1700's. Is Locust Grove, which is known as the Goodwin Farm, have any connection with Edward Goodwin. Any information that you have would be much appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2323.1.3.1 Message Board Post: Could there be some connection between our familys? TKS Margie Tabb, Ross, O’Neill, Lollar, Lang (Long) Schlageter, Brunner, Lemman, Bolling, Peyton, Saunders, Shackelford, Taylor, Hubbard, Yerby, Presley, Phillips, Webb – direct lines. Indirect lines: Warner, King, Heheman, Shoemaker, Wright, Moody, Crump, Leigh, Sneed, Gregory, Rievere, Puckett, Mardis, Glidewell, Cocke, Bynum, Pointer, Mc Donald, Ferrell, Ogletree, Fenner, Hudnall Lot of other indirect lines. Charles Ross Tabb b 10/14/1860 in Cobb Switch in Lowndes county near Columbus MS d 11/13/1933 married Alice O’NEILL (O’Neal) b 1870 Cincinnati, OH on 1 nov 1886 died 1940 Lawn Ave on 8/30/1941 services St. Agnes church parents: may be Julia and Felix O’Neil of Manchester OH Felix parents: may be John and Maggie or Mappie children: 1. Charles W born Columbus MS died 4/1/1892 age 9 months old 2. Margaret 3. Marie 4. Alice (d12 dec 1934 –services St. Cecilia’s church residence 3915 Taylor Ave) married Arthur C LANG (Long) Lawlor (Lollar) SCHLAGETER 5. Laura-twin to Alice had five husbands - lived in Hollywood California - had bit parts in movies-fifth husband was Al WARNER 6. Irene married Edward W KING 7. Helen married Harry J HEHEMAN 8. Elmer L married Lavina SHOEMAKER of Batesville IN 9. Eugene Through marriage this family had ties to Southeast Indiana - New Alsace, Weisburg, Lawrenceburg. John F Ross Tabb b circa 1838/39 in MS probably Artesia resided twp 18A in 1870 d Jun 1880 of malaria age 47 in Columbus, Lowndes County, MS guardian: Jacob I SHERMAN aka: Jack & Ross & JFR married Amanda Mary F LEMMAN (LEMMON, Lehman) (b. circa 1841) of Dayton OH on 23 jan 1860 in Lowndes County Mississippi M R Lemmon and E P O’Neal in the Lowndes Cty Agricultural Soc 1858-60. There was also a W H O’Neal from Lowndes cty. Also Edwin E Slade Leman and Benjamin S Long (50 on 1860 census b NC). Charles Baskerville involved with guardianship papers. Guardianship papers in Lawrence county for Virginia by John J McMahon, Samuel W Shackelford, William P McMahon and Elisabeth S Mc Mahon 25 Aug 1855. Laura Shackelford daughter of James H Turner Esq died 7/10/1838. Amanda and her son Charles kept boarders in Hamilton, Butler County, OH in 1880. Her father was born in Ohio. Her mother was born in NY circa 1820. Mrs. A L Tabb and Mamie appear in the Hamilton, Butler County, Ohio directory at N S Buckeye St second house west of 4th. children: 1. Mary Bolling (b circa 1863) married Charles HEISIG 2. Charles Ross Tabb m, 3. Erwin L 4. Elizabeth Lanier Thomas Bolling TABB b circa 1815 d circa 1853 in Amelia County VA (see Tabb family) Thomas Bolling TABB b circa 1820 d before 8 May 1850 possibly jun 8 1844 married Laura E Saunders Shackleford Taylor (b1811 in Chowan Cty NC) married 5 apr 1837 in Lawrence Co AL He appears on the 1840 census in Lowndes County Mississippi. children: 1. Virginia (Sippi) Gordon Tabb (b abt 1849) guardian: J C Ramsey, Jack F Ross Tabb, John Mason Moody. At age 16 in 1868 she went to NC with the Moody’s • married William Scott WRIGHT MOODY (born in Scotland) d abt 1883 o 3 children died as infants o Lena born abt 1876 –guardian Dr. H G CRUMP LEIGH - married Samuel R SNEED of KY son of Henry Harrison Sneed – Episcopal minister of Gulfport MS o Charles Bolling Tabb Moody –guardian Nathaniel GREGORY- born abt 23 Oct 1879 in Cobb Switch d 12 Jul 1839 (cert 16498) buried National Cemetery Mobile AL married Florence REVIERE (b Louisiana d 22 Jun 1993 age 93 in Mobile) both were in the US Army Resided 154 S Broad St.  Charles B Moody Jr b circa 1919  Evelyn b circa 1921  Kathleen b circa 1924 • When William died she married William A BOHANNON 2 Dec 1888 o Bessie E who became a missionary in TN and married Foggy PUCKETT and moved to Montana. o Alexander W 2. John F Ross 3. Laura E (b10/11/1845 d 9/22/1868) married (1864) John Mason Wright Moody guardian: J C Ramsey, Jack F Ross Tabb, John Mason Moody • William Robert Mason MOODY (2 Mar 1867-1913) of Woodlawn & Elmdale of Lowndes County MS married Daisy BUTLER of Columbus MS -d 23 Aug 1903 Effie Moody GREGORY raised the children. o William Robert became Episcopal Bishop of KY o James Butler – never married and lived in Oxford NC Will of William M Moody Children: John Mason Moody M A Leigh Laura M Gregory G children: Annie G Lockhart Lena Moody Charlie Moody William R Moody FYI – Jack Shackelford of Courtland AL and Columbus MS married Lottie Taylor Charles Fox GOODE Sherrod of Columbus MS related Parents of Thomas Bolling TABB Thomas TABB b. 9 May 1783 in Amelia died before 1827 married (OCT 1814) Mary T BOLLING b APR 1793 in Amelia near Petersburg VA died 28 Jul 1842 age 49 at the home of Mr. William S Bolling in MS daughter of Thomas Tabb BOLLING and Segniora PEYTON Brothers: William S, Thomas R and Warner L BOLLING William S married Pocahontas A daughter of Mr. Archibald Robertson of Richmond VA on 16 Mar 1838 in MS. Henry S TAYLOR & Stephen COCKE witnessed her will. Her second marriage was to General Jack Ferrill ROSS of Mobile AL. b 29 oct 1791 in Franklin NC and died 12 Oct 1837 in Mobile, AL. Parents: John Ross and Temperence Ferrell. 1st state treasurer of Alabama and moved from St. Stephens to Mobile AL in 1827. Died of yellow fever in 1837 and buried in Magnolia Cemetery. 1st wife Anne Amelia Fischer married 11 feb 1817. Second wife Mary Bolling Tabb married 8 Nov 1827 in Huntsville AL. The North Carolina Star (Raleigh NC) 29 Nov 1827 p3 column 5 – Married in Madison County AL on 8th ult. Cpt Jack F Ross of Mobile, and formerly of Franklin Co, in this state to Mrs. Mary Tabb. Thomas Bolling Tabb, Jack F Ross stepson married Laura E Taylor b 1811, daughter of Margaret Josephine Saunders and Robert Taylor and granddaughter of Joseph Saunders, brother of Jesse who married Anne Yancey. Mrs. Thomas Bolling Tabb was a second cousin of Mary Saunders who married Turner Ogletree. Mary T Ross died 8/28/1842 in Columbus MS abt 54 yrs old Sara R Ross (name of sister & daughter of Jack Ferrell Ross) and William R Ross (name of son in law husband of Sarah) William Henry Ross son of Jack Ferrell Ross and his second wife Anne Amelia Fischer. son: 1. Thomas Bolling TABB died after 1850 trustee W L Harris (R H Harris may be related) Margaret Josephine SAUNDERS (b abt 1779 NC) married Robert TAYLOR (b abt 1777) of Chowan County North Carolina- in Brunswick county VA on 12 Feb 1810. Children born in Chowan county unless otherwise stated 1. Junius 1805 2. Mary Elizabeth 1806 3. Margaret 1807 4. Matilda 1808 5. Josephine 1809 6. Burt 1809 7. Laura E 1811 married Thomas B Tabb in Lawrence Co 5 apr 1837 may first have married Dr. Jones of TN. 8. Mary Elizabeth (1814 Courtland Lawrence cty AL)married Samuel MARDIS lawyer of Shelby Cty AL member of congress-children married men from New Orleans 1. ? 2. Eugenia m Dr Hester of New Orleans 3. Samuella m Mr Cohn merchant of New Orleans 9. Matilda (1816 Courtland) married Isaac GLIDEWELL 10. Margaret Josephine Saunders Taylor (b 1817 Courtland died 29 Jul 1879) married Junius A BYNUM (b1814 NC? d 20 may 1853 in Courtland AL) on 13 Mar 1837. I read somewhere that Margaret wrote poetry under the penname of Dixie. 1. Junius J never returned from the war (born 29 sep 1843) 2. Margaret Josephine Saunders Taylor Bynum (Born 9 nov 1848 died 5 Jan 1864 age 73) married Philip POINTER (died 8 jul 1886) 3. Bert (born 9 Jan 1846) 4. Laura Matilda (born 17 dec 1853) married William A McDonald I can only suppose that the first Mary Elizabeth, Matilda and Josephine died young and the second daughters of those names were named after them. Mrs. Thomas Bolling Tabb was a second cousin of Mary Sa(u)nders who married Turner Ogletree. Joseph SAUNDERS(b 7 jun 1757 in Lancaster Cty VA d 2 may 1833 Lawrence county AL) married Margaret SHACKELFORD (abt 1759) daughter of Richard Shackelford Jr (b 15 Oct 1738 in Gloucester Cty VA) & Margaret Landman (abt 1742 in VA) parents married 17 Jan 1767 in Richmond County VA. second marriage to Martha daughter of Col Frederick Maclin of Brunswick county VA. daughters Lucy (1781) Halifax NC and Martha (1785) married Mr. Finlay (a Scotchman) second marriage to Rev Parker Holcomb Lt of the ship Dragon and LT Commander of the galley Lewis in1781 1783 received land warrants for 2666 ½ acres as Lieutenant in Rev. Navy pension in 1832. Moved from Lancaster to Brunswick in 1789 In 1822 he moved to Giles county TN In 1823 moved to Lawrence County AL 1. Margaret married Robert TAYLOR b abt 1777 in Chowan Co NC Second marriage 2. Lucy (d 1824 in Halifax NC) married Major Robert FENNER (d 1848) of Halifax NC descendents in TN & TX & MS 3. Robert massacred at Goliad with the Red Rovers 4. Mary married Dr. Julius Johnson lived in Jackson TN a. Fenner b. Margaret 5. Joseph served in Red Rovers but was on a reconnoitering party during the massacre 6. Richard 7. Margaret 8. Ann William Thomas SAUNDERS (1718 in Lancaster Cty-22Nov 1779) on 5/18/1738 married Elizabeth (Betsy) HUBBARD (b 22 Feb 1721-d 14 Nov 1789) of Lancaster, Brunswick Co VA father Thomas (b abt 1690 Lancaster City d 1745) of Scottish descent mother Mary Yerby. Betsy’s brothers Joseph Hubbard married Elizabeth ? her second marriage to William MOTT and Ephraim married Hannah EDMONDS or EDWARDS. William Saunders was schoolmaster in Lancaster and Northumberland Counties in VA. Children: Thomas 18 jun 1739 married Ann Turner Mary 06 may 1741 Cpt Jesse 21 Jul 1743 b Wicomico Parish married Ann Yancy Winifred 24 feb 1746 27 feb 1797 Frances 5 aug 1748 Edward 5 may 1751 Presley 19 oct 1753 1816 Joseph 7 jun 1757 Ephraim 14 mar 1760 1811 William 25 apr 1765 James 22 jun 1824 Edward SAUNDERS (1686-aft 1744) of Northumberland and Lancaster Counties VA. His descendents all lived in Lancaster county. In 1717 married Winifred PRESLEY of Lancaster County VA Ebenezer SAUNDERS (1661-1693) married Elizabeth PRESLEY Parents may be Peter Presley and Elizabeth Thompson (pretty sure it is Elizabeth Presley)or Elizabeth PHILIPS daughter of Edward and Elisabeth. Parents may be Peter Presley and Elizabeth Thompson. lived in Wicomico Parish of Lancaster County VA Dr. Edward SAUNDERS (1625 ENG-1672 VA) married Mary Elizabeth WEBB Hudnall b circa 1625 (1st husband John Hudnall) she later married William Thomas. Moved from James River to Northumberland County VA. Mary’s parents may be William Webb and Mary Tabor or Taberer. Will of Thomas Taberer dated 24 Jan 1692 recorded 9 feb 1694 gave land to his daughter Mary Webb which he bought from Charles Edwards. Sister Ruth married John Newman, brother William, sister Christian, sister Elizabeth married Mr. Wombwell. Joseph Copeland. Witness Susanna Blunt. Webb’s in Surry county too. Thomas SAUNDERS (SANDERS)(b 1595 in Eng) arrived on the ship “Safety” in 1635 at the age of 40 with his son Thomas age 13 and his other son Edward age 9. From Early Settlers of Alabama by Col James Edmonds Saunders of Lawrence County AL & his granddaughter Elizabeth Saunders Blair Stubbs of New Orleans LA My g ggrandfather Joel E. Wynne married (his second) a Margaret Ross, who may have been German. There is one census where the enumerator spelled their daughter's name Margueritta. I've never been able to trace the Ross’s, but see Goodspeed's Shelby Co TN for a possible link to some Germans by that name. Joel Wynne was living in Henderson and or Madison Co TN at the time- late 1830s- before moving to Marshall Co MS by 1840. The Wynnes were from Amelia Co VA. then Wilson Co TN. Levette Pointer's grave in Hernando DeSoto Co MS says he was married to Susy Oliver Yates, but I have him there on the 1910 census and he's living with his in-laws. They are hard to make out, but definitely they are not Yates. He was Dr. David Pointer's grandson born in 1862 in Assumption LA to David Pointer Jr and Leonora Smith Pointer. Terry I just received three pages out of the old Lockhart family Bible( I don't know what happened to the rest of it but was glad to get what I did) It shows that Mary Christine Ried Lockhart died on Dec.24,1901, this matches the tombstone in the Pontotoc cemetery that shows her parents to be Ed and M.E. Lockhart. The next entry on this page show that Mary E or possibly F (really hard to read) Jones Lockhart wife of E.D. Lockhart died on Oct. 9 1902. I know E.D. Lockhart was Edwin Deleon and he was born August 13 1867 but I do not know when or where he died. I really feel this Mary was the babies mother. Found this in a January 1905 volume of the William and Mary Quarterlies: Ser. 1, Vol. 13, No. 3, p. 168 Thomas TABB married, in October, 1814, Mary T. Bolling (marriage bond), daughter of Thomas Tabb Bolling, and died prior to 1823, when his widow married Gen. Ross. Thomas Tabb left an only son, Thomas B. Tabb, who died about 1860. The said Thomas B. Tabb left four children: (1) Virginia Gordon Tabb, who married William A. BOHANNON; (2) John F. Ross Tabb, who died about 1879, leaving his widow, Amanda L., and the following children, viz., Mary Bolling, who married Charles E. Heisig; Charles Ross Tabb, who married Alice Tabb; Erwin L. and Elizabeth Lanear Tabb; (3) Laura T., who married John M. Moody, and had William Mason Moody; (4) Mary e., who married Lockhart and had one child, Annie E. Lockhart (papers in Richmond Chancery Court: William A. BOHANNON and Virginia Gordon, his wife, vs. Tabb & Justis). Date: 9 Jan 2002 16:11:37 -0700 From: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [MOODY-L] William Moody of Northampton County NC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Moody, Dancy, Wright, Tabb, Terry Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2c1.2ACEB/1343 Message Board Post: Does anyone have any information on William Moody who according to my information purchased land in Northampton County in 1804? He was my great great grandfather on my mother's side. His son, John Mason Moody, John Mason Moody's wife, Martha Wright, and their children are listed in the 1850 census. The children are: William F. Mary E. John Mason Jr. Marth A. Laura John Mason Jr. served in the Civil war as a captain in the NC 12th regiment and later in the 32nd regiment. For most of his adult life John Mason Jr. resided in Columbus, Mississippi. His first wife was Laura T. Tabb; his second wife was Rosa Terry. He died around 1890. It is from his son, Gilbert Leigh Moody that I am descended. Most particularly I am interested in knowing where in Virginia William Moody was born and the name of his parents. I would appreciate any help and of course I am willing to share what information I have. Sincerely, Bill Stapp CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 425) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:31:02 EST From: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [TAYLOR-L] Taylor Marriages - AL - Lawrence - Mobile Co's Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit AL Marriages, Lawrence County, AL (1818-1858) TAYLOR, FLETCHER FULLER, LOUISA E Nov 12 1822 TAYLOR, JOSEPH A BERRY, ELIZABETH Feb 24 1856 TAYLOR, LAURA E TABB, THOMAS B Apr 05 1837 TAYLOR, MARGARET J BYNUM, JUNIUS A Mar 13 1837 CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 300) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:04:46 -0800 From: "Earl Taylor" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [TAYLOR] George Marion TAYLOR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lolene; I have two Taylor lines, one from VA to NC, TN, MS, TX, Wilson, Fayette, Wharton, Williamson cos. TX The other line was in NH and Little Compton, RI. I only have five generations of them, starting with Robert and Mary Hodges, down to Humphrey and his daughter Mary who married Joshua Saunders. Do any of these names mean anything to you? There are a lot of Isaacs in my VA line. Earl H Taylor [email protected] (909)593 2652 yahoo IM eht2060 http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ -----Original Message----- From: lolene [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TAYLOR] George Marion TAYLOR I am looking for the parents of G M Taylor born in Shelby County TN in 1834. He married Margaret Price in McLennan County TX in 1868. There is a family who seems to be this Taylor family in the 1880 Hamilton County TX census p 369b, but they are listed as Taler. All others in the census have the more common spelling. GM, or the person who gave the info, says his parents were both born in Vermont. He died in Parker County in 1911, and is buried in Central Cemetery. Those are facts. I have been told his father was Isaac or Edmund Taylor, but I have no backup to this. Anyone on the list who can help? His mother's maiden name may have been Crowder. I'd even like to have a different census on this family to see where the parents are listed as being born - VT or is it VA? Thanks for any help. Lolene Laura B. Wife of E.H. Jones M.D. Born November 17,1853 Died March 6,1885 http://www.census-online.com/links/AL/Lawrence/ 1830 Lawrence Co Al census Sanders, Joseph B.` 1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 Saunders, Claiborne 0,1,2,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 3,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 Saunders, James` 1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 Saunders, John` 1,2,1,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0 1,0,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0 Saunders, Joseph` 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0 Shackleford, Jack` 1,0,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 0,0,0,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 1840 Sanders, Abigail 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Sanders, C. M. 2 3 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sanders, Elijah 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sanders, Ila 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sanders, Jas. E. 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sanders, John 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sanders, Mary 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sanders, Mary 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Sanders, William 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Saunders, Turner 1 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1950 109 Bynum J.A. 36 m Farmer NC Margaret J. 32 f NC NC Junius A. 7 m AL Ala Margaret J. 2 f AL Ala Burt 4 m AL 213 Moody John M 35 m Farmer 300 Va Susan 36 f NC NC John P 10 m MS Mis James H 8 m Mis Ann E 6 f Mis Wm E. 2 m Lawler Margaret E. 11 f AL Al Frances A.H. 9 f O’Neill and Long also Shackelford Mosley Cook Good King Aston Nichols 557 Saunders James E. 44 m VA Planter Va Mary H. 37 f GA Ga Robert 23 m AL Lawyer Al Elizabeth D. 20 f Al Mary L 17 f Al Sarah J. 13 f Al Dudley D. 15 m Student of Law AL Prudence 9 f AL Lawrence W. 5 m THE LIBERTY HALL AND CINCINNATI GAZETTE September 30, 1841 J.C. Wright, Editor Typed as published and submitted By Minnie Anderson December 11, 2002 MARRIED On the 21 inst. by Rev R.H.Bishop - Mr. R.C.Saunders of Mississippi to Miss Ellen M.Lewis of Oxford Ohio. Ala

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2323.1.3 Message Board Post: My Joseph moved to Bullitt County KY in late 1700's after serving in the Revolutionary War. I bleieve he traveled with Benjamin Pope and family. I also thing he married Frances Pope, Benjamin's daughter. He was active in the formation of Shepherdsville, KY. I have been told he had brothers Christian and Thomas. His children were, Nat P, Thomas J, and three or four girls. Thanks for your help.

Hi List, I am still trying to find the Culpeper/Orange County families of William J. Palmer and Ellen E. Hord. They were married in Orange County in September 1835. William was born in Culpeper County July 4, 1811 and Ellen E Hord Palmer was born Feb. 6, 1813. At some point after their marriage they moved to Giles County Tennessee and lived in that part of Giles that was placed in Marshall County in about 1874. They are buried in Beechwood Cemetery in Cornersville, Tennessee. I will appreciate any help in locating their families in Virginia. Patricia Caneer Gardner a gggranddaughter of the Palmer/Hord families. > > From: [email protected] > Date: 2006/08/28 Mon PM 08:46:33 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [VACULPEP] Re: Parkers > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Parker, White > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2168.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Benjamin White's parents were Daniel White and Hannah Hunt. > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Parker, White Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2168.1 Message Board Post: Benjamin White's parents were Daniel White and Hannah Hunt.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Parker, White Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2768.1 Message Board Post: I am searching for the same proof. According to Parker DNA Elder John Parker belongs to the Parker DNA Family Group 5 with the oldest ancester being Robert Parker of Barnstable, Mass. Its the "inbetween" that is hard to distinguish. PARKER Family Group 5 P01 and P32 match on 35 of 37 markers. The oldest ancestor of P01 is Robert PARKER, b abt 1630 in England, and emigrated to Plymouth Colony MA. Robert PARKER married first Sarah JAMES, and second, Patience COBB. The oldest ancestor of P32 is John PARKER, b 1760-70. The DNA test has made it possible for P32 to determine his relationship to the line of P01. P41 was added to this group on 25 March 2005. He matches P32 35/37, and P01 34/37. P41 is descended from Daniel PARKER, son of Elder John PARKER, who was born 1758 in Baltimore Co. Md, and died 1836 in Fort Parker, Texas. This is the line of Cynthia PARKER, mother of Quanah PARKER. This match was unexpected by both PARKER lines, and his given them new areas for research. P45 was added to this family group on 30 May 2005. He is descended from Benjamin PARKER, son of Elder John PARKER. Benjamin is the brother of Daniel PARKER, ancestor of P41. With matching DNA samples from descendents of two different sons of elder John PARKER, b 1758 Baltimore, MD, we are confident that we have the DNA profile of this line. Anyone with a family oral tradition of descent from Elder John and the line of Cynthia PARKER, can now confirm or disprove that by comparing their DNA to P41 and P45. P67 was added to this group on 29 October 2005, following receipt of his DNA results. He matches P32 and P45 on 23 of 25 markers. His oldest ancestor is Robert PARKER of Barnstable, Mass. and his second wife, Patience COBB. He had been exchanging information with P01 about their lineage prior to the DNA test. P72 was added to this group on 13 Dec 2005 following receipt of his DNA test results. He matches the mode for this group on 31 of 32 markers. DNA testing has resulted in a revision of the genealogy of P72 (and many more PARKERs). It now appears that P72 does not descend from John PARKER, 1569 Southhampton, England. His oldest confirmed PARKER is now George PARKER, born 1695-1770, who married Sarah WARRINGTON. P97 was added to Parker Family group 5 on 17 May 2006. He matches the modal values for this group on 25 of 25 markers. His oldest confirmed ancestor is George PARKER who died in Worcester (now Wicomico) County, Maryland in 1770. He wife was Sarah WARRINGTON. As is the case for P72, P97 also thought that his line of descent was from John PARKER, 1569, Southhampton England, prior to the DNA test. It is now apparent that there were at least two unrelated PARKER lines in the Eastern Shore area in the early 1700's. And of course they used the same given names in both lines, making separation difficult. P107 was added to this group on 8 July 2006. He matches the modal values for Family Group 5 on all 37 markers tested. The oldest ancestor of P107 is George PARKER born about 1695-1705, place unknown. He died in 1770 in Worcester Co., MD. George married Sarah WARRINGTON after February 1726 in Worcester Co., MD. Sarah was born about 1704 in Cedar Creek Hundred, Sussex County, DE, and died after 1770 in Worcester Co., MD. P112 was added to Parker Family 5 on 5 August 2006. He matches the modal values for this group on 35 of 37 markers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://web.utk.edu/~corn/parkerdna/park5.htm#FG5

Graig Kilby writes: >REMEMBER, this thread started out as to whether to cite the publisher of a book as "Virginia State Library and Archives" or as "Library of Virginia" (its modern name). At least one person attempted an answer to that. I guess I shall call them directly and see what reponse I can elicit. It usually seems to be the case that when nobody answers a query, that nobody knows the answer< Proper protocol for citation is to list the book's publisher at the time of publication. Therefor, one would cite the above-referenced work as being published by Virginia State Library and Archives. While many publishing entities may change the name of a business, it is by the name under which the work was published that one would find the work.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Shepherd, Embery, Brimmer, Edwards, Colbert, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2227.33 Message Board Post: Could you lookup the Shepherd family of culpeper Co., Thank you so much for your time. Heidi

Some of my ancestors came from what is now WV, but for all dates before 1863 I list them as Harrison Co, WV, and later as Harrison Co, VA - keeping with the place as it was named at the time in history. Floyd Co, VA came from Montgomery Co, VA in 1831, so the pre-1831 records are listed in Montgomery Co, VA. If I'm writing about it, I often say, in the part of Montgomery Co, VA that later became Floyd Co, VA. In your case, I would always use the original place at the time the record was established. It is almost always possible to determine who has those records now. But if you use the current location, you, and your readers, will lose the original name and specific location. Jim Bartlett -----Original Message----- From: Craig Kilby [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VACULPEP] Citing Locations To all: I sent this to many lists and have had many responses. The basic question was, in citing an event (let's say a marriage), how do we cite it as to its location? Do we cite as to when it happened, and where it happened at that time? Or do we cite it as to where we would find that record today? For example, a marriage that took place in "Pattonville, St. Louis County, Missouri" in 1838 would now (today) be recorded in "St. Louis County Marriage Book B, p. xxx". And that record book would today be housed in the St. Louis CITY Circuit Clerk's office, in downtown St. Louis, which, after 1878, became a seperate political entity. After 1878, the records of anyplace in St. Louis COUNTY (newly created entity) would be housed in Clayton, Missouri (newly created county seat of newly created St. Louis County). So now we have this 1856 marriage that actually occured in the place called Pattonville, now called Bridgeton. The marriage record is at St. Louis CITY. Did the marriage occur there? No. I occured in Pattonville. But it is recorded in the CITY records. And where is Pattonville now? Nowhere? It was a post office cross-roads, now gobbled up in what is now the city of Bridgeton. Does the city of Bridgeton have record of this marriage? Nope. It happened before it came to existance and those records are at, guess where? City of St. Louis! So, naturally, one would cite the actual source or where the record is housed, and note the changes of locations. The issue here was that the local SAR wants the source cited to its current locale, to avoid just this sort of confusion. REMEMBER, this thread started out as to whether to cite the publisher of a book as "Virginia State Library and Archives" or as "Library of Virginia" (its modern name). At least one person attempted an answer to that. I guess I shall call them directly and see what reponse I can elicit. It usually seems to be the case that when nobody answers a query, that nobody knows the answer. Craig Kilby [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: Forrest Fulton <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 7/20/2006 7:38:55 PM > Subject: [VACULPEP] Re: VACULPEP-D Digest V06 #121 > > >From my first genealogy class I was told to use the county where the event > took place. In notes it can be explained that the county changed in the > year xxxx. How would the deed books be divided to follow the new county? > Irene Fulton > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Culpeper Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] if you are on the Digest list to [email protected] ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

To all: I sent this to many lists and have had many responses. The basic question was, in citing an event (let's say a marriage), how do we cite it as to its location? Do we cite as to when it happened, and where it happened at that time? Or do we cite it as to where we would find that record today? For example, a marriage that took place in "Pattonville, St. Louis County, Missouri" in 1838 would now (today) be recorded in "St. Louis County Marriage Book B, p. xxx". And that record book would today be housed in the St. Louis CITY Circuit Clerk's office, in downtown St. Louis, which, after 1878, became a seperate political entity. After 1878, the records of anyplace in St. Louis COUNTY (newly created entity) would be housed in Clayton, Missouri (newly created county seat of newly created St. Louis County). So now we have this 1856 marriage that actually occured in the place called Pattonville, now called Bridgeton. The marriage record is at St. Louis CITY. Did the marriage occur there? No. I occured in Pattonville. But it is recorded in the CITY records. And where is Pattonville now? Nowhere? It was a post office cross-roads, now gobbled up in what is now the city of Bridgeton. Does the city of Bridgeton have record of this marriage? Nope. It happened before it came to existance and those records are at, guess where? City of St. Louis! So, naturally, one would cite the actual source or where the record is housed, and note the changes of locations. The issue here was that the local SAR wants the source cited to its current locale, to avoid just this sort of confusion. REMEMBER, this thread started out as to whether to cite the publisher of a book as "Virginia State Library and Archives" or as "Library of Virginia" (its modern name). At least one person attempted an answer to that. I guess I shall call them directly and see what reponse I can elicit. It usually seems to be the case that when nobody answers a query, that nobody knows the answer. Craig Kilby [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: Forrest Fulton <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 7/20/2006 7:38:55 PM > Subject: [VACULPEP] Re: VACULPEP-D Digest V06 #121 > > >From my first genealogy class I was told to use the county where the event > took place. In notes it can be explained that the county changed in the > year xxxx. How would the deed books be divided to follow the new county? > Irene Fulton > > > ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Dear Paul, HST was my fourth cousin, twice removed. It was on his Kentucky Shipp family side that we are related. The story goes that there were two families in his background whose surname began with S. I have both of them somewhere, but only remember the Shipps. HST's mother wanted not to slight either one of them so she gave her son the middle initial S and let each one think it stood for their surname. She sounds like a Solomonaic-type person. Tom [email protected] wrote: > > Hi, Tom > > Your comment reminds me -- our family lived 21 miles from Harry's birthplace > of Lamar, MO -- that there used to be a middle name made up for him; it > sounds just like the "S" > > Paul in Michigan > > > In a message dated 08/26/06 7:51:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Dear Paul, > > Surely you can see the problem with "no middle name"? Harry S Truman > served in the Government three times. Once as a Captain in the > Artillery in WWI and once as VP and once as Prez. He had a middle > initial but no middle name. > > NMN would have worked for Prez George Washington and Prez Thomas > Jefferson, but not everyone in the Government. > > Tom of 1812 > > > > >

Along those same lines I have found a number of families not giving their daughters middle names so that the maiden name could carry on after marriage. One of my girls just stopped using her middle name in order to use her maiden name as a middle name. It sure helps when following a female line. Ginny -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] FNU Hi, Tom Your comment reminds me -- our family lived 21 miles from Harry's birthplace of Lamar, MO -- that there used to be a middle name made up for him; it sounds just like the "S" Paul in Michigan In a message dated 08/26/06 7:51:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Dear Paul, Surely you can see the problem with "no middle name"? Harry S Truman served in the Government three times. Once as a Captain in the Artillery in WWI and once as VP and once as Prez. He had a middle initial but no middle name. NMN would have worked for Prez George Washington and Prez Thomas Jefferson, but not everyone in the Government. Tom of 1812 ==== VACULPEP Mailing List ==== NOTICE: The posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.

Hi, Tom Your comment reminds me -- our family lived 21 miles from Harry's birthplace of Lamar, MO -- that there used to be a middle name made up for him; it sounds just like the "S" Paul in Michigan In a message dated 08/26/06 7:51:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Dear Paul, Surely you can see the problem with "no middle name"? Harry S Truman served in the Government three times. Once as a Captain in the Artillery in WWI and once as VP and once as Prez. He had a middle initial but no middle name. NMN would have worked for Prez George Washington and Prez Thomas Jefferson, but not everyone in the Government. Tom of 1812

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Leavell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2227.32 Message Board Post: Hi, I would be very interested to learn if you have the name Leavell/LeaVell and other variants in the book. This would be the late 1700's and early 1800's. Thank you