This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jett Kidwell Hittle Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2054.1 Message Board Post: Susanna Jett is my ggg grandmother. Do you have any further information about her? I have almost nothing. Thank you

Dear June, Not a problem for me, I could see someone going back and altering an original. I think it interesting that someone cared so much to do this for posterity. I certainly didn't know this person was the first person killed in the Civil War. Now I do. Heck I hope it is NEVER on a history quiz or game show, but someone here would be able to answer. Again thank you for all you do in sharing with us your interesting finds and tidbits of information. Sincerely, Rebecca Bashaw ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] First man killed in Civil War Fairfax Court;1860 census > > Have heard from so many on the fact that the Civil War didn't start until > 1861. I am aware of the facts of the Civil War. Thanks to all that emailed > me, I > know you meant well. I should have explained myself further. So my emails > don't get flooded with history lessons, I just wanted to say; just found > it > rather strange that it was written on the census. It looked as if it had > been > added. Didn't know people were allowed to alter the originals. Just > wanted to > share this first hand. I will be a little more careful in my words of > sharing. LOL!!!!! > Glad to see all of you are on top of the "FACTS" > > June

Craig- I didn't actually say we should forget talking about the Civil War, I said we should stop fighting it. Lets talk about the history of the war, the personal stories, the service, the sacrifices and the tragedies. I just wish we could discuss it without feeling like we are still in the middle of it. Rick Waggener > Hilarious, this all is. We are admonished to "stick to genealogy" and > "forget the Civil War." Is anyone reading this with a straight face?

Hilarious, this all is. We are admonished to "stick to genealogy" and "forget the Civil War." Is anyone reading this with a straight face? This is the Culpeper list, if I am not mistaken. My great-grandfather was Thomas Marcellus Kilby. He enlisted in "let's forget it" war. His mother died while he was in the "let's fort it war". His father re-married to a woman who named her first born son "Ulysses S. G. ____". My great-grandfather and many of his siblings move FROM Culpeper to a "distant state." But this has never been FORGOTTEN. This is my genealogy, and I am not going to just FORGET about the historical back-drop to the migration patterns. I also have a "Yankee" line and for those who want to "forget" the brave Union lads who fell in battle, there is wonderful statue of Union soldier in the town square of a small town in Maine (Camden Harbor) with the inscription in honor of those fell in the cause of "The Great Rebellion." I will never forget. These people are my ancestors, and their history is why I am in genealogy. And genealogy without history is meaningless. Those who say "forget history, stick to genealogy" have not the vaguest clue, and oughtn't be on any lists purporting to share it. Craig Kilby [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: Thomas S. Fiske <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 10/23/2006 5:19:53 PM > Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] The Civil War > > Dear Listers, > > Yep. I am a Southerner, a researcher, and a writer about the CW, some > of reconstruction, the KKK, and all that. And I have accepted the > title, "Civil War." But I have never been too fond of Abe Lincoln. > > Tom > > John Parrott wrote: > > Here-here, Rick. I am a son of the south and have no problem calling the > > civil war what it was-but it is over, done with and needs to be forgotten > > beyond genealogical lines. > > The might of's and should have been is speculation and as my grandmother > > used to say so eloquently, "if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its rear on > > the ground." > > So-I am all for sticking to genealogy and forget about what to call the > > civil war, (which is the official listed and accepted name by the US > > historical society, school text books, dictionaries, and encyclopedias) > > John Parrott > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick Waggener" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:45 PM > > Subject: [VACULPEP] The Civil War > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

amen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Waggener" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [VACULPEP] The Civil War > It seems that every time there is a mention about the Civil War on one of > these rootsweb lists, there are almost invariably some rather bitter > comments from some folks who apparently can't let go of a conflict that is > now over 125 years old. > > On the news the other day it was reported that the conflict in Iraq > between > the Shiite and Sunni Muslim groups was 800 years old. I was thinking how > unbelievable that seems. I hope that in 700 years we all have managed to > let > go of this very old trajedy that most of us refer to as the American Civil > War. Personally, I have ancestors from both sides of this conflict, and > even > if I wanted to identify with one side over the other, I wouldn't know > which > way to go. From what I have been able to learn about those ancestors > directly involved, it was a horrible nightmare, which many of them lived > with for the rest of their natural lives. I say let's all let it go and > stick with genealogy. > > Rick Waggener > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well said, Craig Kilby. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Kilby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] The Civil War > Hilarious, this all is. We are admonished to "stick to genealogy" and > "forget the Civil War." Is anyone reading this with a straight face? > This > is the Culpeper list, if I am not mistaken. My great-grandfather was > Thomas Marcellus Kilby. He enlisted in "let's forget it" war. His mother > died while he was in the "let's fort it war". His father re-married to a > woman who named her first born son "Ulysses S. G. ____". My > great-grandfather and many of his siblings move FROM Culpeper to a > "distant > state." But this has never been FORGOTTEN. This is my genealogy, and I > am > not going to just FORGET about the historical back-drop to the migration > patterns. > > I also have a "Yankee" line and for those who want to "forget" the brave > Union lads who fell in battle, there is wonderful statue of Union soldier > in the town square of a small town in Maine (Camden Harbor) with the > inscription in honor of those fell in the cause of "The Great Rebellion." > I will never forget. These people are my ancestors, and their history is > why I am in genealogy. And genealogy without history is meaningless. > > Those who say "forget history, stick to genealogy" have not the vaguest > clue, and oughtn't be on any lists purporting to share it. > > Craig Kilby > [email protected] > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Thomas S. Fiske <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Date: 10/23/2006 5:19:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] The Civil War >> >> Dear Listers, >> >> Yep. I am a Southerner, a researcher, and a writer about the CW, some >> of reconstruction, the KKK, and all that. And I have accepted the >> title, "Civil War." But I have never been too fond of Abe Lincoln. >> >> Tom >> >> John Parrott wrote: >> > Here-here, Rick. I am a son of the south and have no problem calling > the >> > civil war what it was-but it is over, done with and needs to be > forgotten >> > beyond genealogical lines. >> > The might of's and should have been is speculation and as my > grandmother >> > used to say so eloquently, "if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its > rear on >> > the ground." >> > So-I am all for sticking to genealogy and forget about what to call the >> > civil war, (which is the official listed and accepted name by the US >> > historical society, school text books, dictionaries, and encyclopedias) >> > John Parrott >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Rick Waggener" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:45 PM >> > Subject: [VACULPEP] The Civil War >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most of us agree with Craig--and have both Union and Confederate ancestors. It's always the same person who inserts that bit about how it wasn't the Civil War but the war for independence--has anyone noticed that? Seems to be his schtick. From: "Craig Kilby" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] The Civil War > Hilarious, this all is. We are admonished to "stick to genealogy" and > "forget the Civil War." Is anyone reading this with a straight face? > This > is the Culpeper list, if I am not mistaken. My great-grandfather was > Thomas Marcellus Kilby. He enlisted in "let's forget it" war. His mother > died while he was in the "let's fort it war". His father re-married to a > woman who named her first born son "Ulysses S. G. ____". My > great-grandfather and many of his siblings move FROM Culpeper to a > "distant > state." But this has never been FORGOTTEN. This is my genealogy, and I > am > not going to just FORGET about the historical back-drop to the migration > patterns. > > I also have a "Yankee" line and for those who want to "forget" the brave > Union lads who fell in battle, there is wonderful statue of Union soldier > in the town square of a small town in Maine (Camden Harbor) with the > inscription in honor of those fell in the cause of "The Great Rebellion." > I will never forget. These people are my ancestors, and their history is > why I am in genealogy. And genealogy without history is meaningless. > > Those who say "forget history, stick to genealogy" have not the vaguest > clue, and oughtn't be on any lists purporting to share it. > > Craig Kilby > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Thomas S. Fiske <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Date: 10/23/2006 5:19:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] The Civil War >> >> Dear Listers, >> >> Yep. I am a Southerner, a researcher, and a writer about the CW, some >> of reconstruction, the KKK, and all that. And I have accepted the >> title, "Civil War." But I have never been too fond of Abe Lincoln. >> >> Tom >> >> John Parrott wrote: >> > Here-here, Rick. I am a son of the south and have no problem calling > the >> > civil war what it was-but it is over, done with and needs to be > forgotten >> > beyond genealogical lines. >> > The might of's and should have been is speculation and as my > grandmother >> > used to say so eloquently, "if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its > rear on >> > the ground." >> > So-I am all for sticking to genealogy and forget about what to call the >> > civil war, (which is the official listed and accepted name by the US >> > historical society, school text books, dictionaries, and encyclopedias) >> > John Parrott >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Rick Waggener" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:45 PM >> > Subject: [VACULPEP] The Civil War >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here-here, Rick. I am a son of the south and have no problem calling the civil war what it was-but it is over, done with and needs to be forgotten beyond genealogical lines. The might of's and should have been is speculation and as my grandmother used to say so eloquently, "if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its rear on the ground." So-I am all for sticking to genealogy and forget about what to call the civil war, (which is the official listed and accepted name by the US historical society, school text books, dictionaries, and encyclopedias) John Parrott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Waggener" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:45 PM Subject: [VACULPEP] The Civil War > It seems that every time there is a mention about the Civil War on one of > these rootsweb lists, there are almost invariably some rather bitter > comments from some folks who apparently can't let go of a conflict that is > now over 125 years old. > > On the news the other day it was reported that the conflict in Iraq > between > the Shiite and Sunni Muslim groups was 800 years old. I was thinking how > unbelievable that seems. I hope that in 700 years we all have managed to > let > go of this very old trajedy that most of us refer to as the American Civil > War. Personally, I have ancestors from both sides of this conflict, and > even > if I wanted to identify with one side over the other, I wouldn't know > which > way to go. From what I have been able to learn about those ancestors > directly involved, it was a horrible nightmare, which many of them lived > with for the rest of their natural lives. I say let's all let it go and > stick with genealogy. > > Rick Waggener > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

PLEASE, Don't refer to the war for SOUTHERN INDEPENDCE, as the " civil" war. A civil war is a war between people of the same government, if all things had been equal , we would have won our independence. [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

Dear Listers, Yep. I am a Southerner, a researcher, and a writer about the CW, some of reconstruction, the KKK, and all that. And I have accepted the title, "Civil War." But I have never been too fond of Abe Lincoln. Tom John Parrott wrote: > Here-here, Rick. I am a son of the south and have no problem calling the > civil war what it was-but it is over, done with and needs to be forgotten > beyond genealogical lines. > The might of's and should have been is speculation and as my grandmother > used to say so eloquently, "if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its rear on > the ground." > So-I am all for sticking to genealogy and forget about what to call the > civil war, (which is the official listed and accepted name by the US > historical society, school text books, dictionaries, and encyclopedias) > John Parrott > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Waggener" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:45 PM > Subject: [VACULPEP] The Civil War > > >

Have heard from so many on the fact that the Civil War didn't start until 1861. I am aware of the facts of the Civil War. Thanks to all that emailed me, I know you meant well. I should have explained myself further. So my emails don't get flooded with history lessons, I just wanted to say; just found it rather strange that it was written on the census. It looked as if it had been added. Didn't know people were allowed to alter the originals. Just wanted to share this first hand. I will be a little more careful in my words of sharing. LOL!!!!! Glad to see all of you are on top of the "FACTS" June

It seems that every time there is a mention about the Civil War on one of these rootsweb lists, there are almost invariably some rather bitter comments from some folks who apparently can't let go of a conflict that is now over 125 years old. On the news the other day it was reported that the conflict in Iraq between the Shiite and Sunni Muslim groups was 800 years old. I was thinking how unbelievable that seems. I hope that in 700 years we all have managed to let go of this very old trajedy that most of us refer to as the American Civil War. Personally, I have ancestors from both sides of this conflict, and even if I wanted to identify with one side over the other, I wouldn't know which way to go. From what I have been able to learn about those ancestors directly involved, it was a horrible nightmare, which many of them lived with for the rest of their natural lives. I say let's all let it go and stick with genealogy. Rick Waggener

June, Just to help stir things up. I guess we should clarify the "fighting" began in 1861. Scott -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 12:58 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] First man killed in Civil War Fairfax Court; 1860 census Have heard from so many on the fact that the Civil War didn't start until 1861. I am aware of the facts of the Civil War. Thanks to all that emailed me, I know you meant well. I should have explained myself further. So my emails don't get flooded with history lessons, I just wanted to say; just found it rather strange that it was written on the census. It looked as if it had been added. Didn't know people were allowed to alter the originals. Just wanted to share this first hand. I will be a little more careful in my words of sharing. LOL!!!!! Glad to see all of you are on top of the "FACTS" June ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hello folks, We are searching for the desendants of the 1850's Culpeper, Va. family of Siffrein Maury Vass and Susan Fitzhugh Vass origionally of the James Vass 'Scotish Clan' of Fredericksburg, Va. Private George Fitzhugh Vass, CSA and Private Townshend Dade Vass, CSA, faithful members of the famous Black Horse Cavalry Troop will be honored with a dedication ceremony and receive granite Veteran's Administration tombstones on their graves which were previously marked with numbers 84 and 84 1/2. Anyone knowing of descendants of this family who want to honor these two brave brothers, aged 16 and 17 who were killed in battle protecting their homeland, please reply to list and directly to me as I'm on Digest and it arrives about once a day. Thank you, Gail Vass wbanks - @ - erols.com [just remove spaces and hyphens]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2884.1.1 Message Board Post: Winifred: Nice to hear from you. I don't understand the name of the cemetery you mention (100F Gone But Not Forgotten). Are all eight of the Cubbages buried in the same cemetery in Owenton? I guess I need the exact name of that cemetery. Also, I am missing a little bit of info, so maybe you can help me a little. 1. Bessie's son, Otto Lee Lancaster, married Dorothy O'Haver. I don't know when'where she was born and when/where she died. 2. Otto Lee and Dorothey had two children, Judy Lou & Jimmy Lee Lancaster. I have both of their dob's, but that's all I know about them. Do you know about marriages and children for them? 3. Bessie's son, James S. Lancaster, married Doris Barnes. I don't know when'where she was born and when/where she died. 4. James & Doris has two children, Dixie Sue and Rochelle A. Lancaster. I have the dob for Rochelle, but not for Dixie. Do you know about marriages and children for Dixie & Rochelle? 5. You mentioned eight Cubbages in the cemetery and you listed Mary Alice Shipp Cubbage; Otto; Bessie Cubbage Lancaster, Luther (I assume this is Walter Luther), and Lilly (would this be Walter Luther's wife, Effie?), which is a total of five - so, who are the other three? Thank you for your help. Is there any Cubbage information that you need? If so, please let me know.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cubbage and Lancaster Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2884.1 Message Board Post: When I saw you mentioned Cubbage in Owen County, KY I searched your list. I am related to the Lancasters/Cobbs/Wilhoites of Owen County. There is a Cubbage Lane in Owenton and I traveled it this summer. There are eight Cubbage listed in the 100F Cemetery(Gone But Not Forgotten) in Owenton. Noticed one of the names you mentioned. Mary Alice Shipp Cubbage. She is with Otto, Bessie Cubbage Lancaster, Luther, Lilly. Luther was the middle name of Walter L Lancaster married to Effie J Willhoite. They had Oscar, Luther, Clarence and Florian Lancaster.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Barber/Barbour in the MA Area 1650's Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2824.2 Message Board Post: There was a Capt. George Barber/Barbour that was in the MA Area during the 1650's or before. His daughter Elizabeth Barber was born 11 April 1651 in Dedham. MA. George was married to an Elizabeth Clark born in Suffolk, England. Elizabeth Barber married Daniel Morse Jr. 21 June 1669 in Medfield/Sherborn, MA and died 29 Sept 1702. See source Descendants of Captain George Barbour of Medfield, Privately published Boston ,MA. 1907 Notice the spelling Barbour This Elizabeth is a direct line through the Morse Family. I am searching Clark in another line which I do not believe is the VA Clark..

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/1560.1559.1561.1 Message Board Post: I'm working on the same Henson family.

Can you tell me if there is any info on Anthony Foster Jr or Sr? Thanks. VVO