When? [email protected] wrote: Hi All, Great information! Has this been shown on television, or will it be aired at a future time, or does anyone know? Thanks, Linda Cashen Gaunt ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SIMS Classification: Death Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2918 Message Board Post: >From the Lewis County, West Virginia Courthouse - Death Register 1 JOHN SIMS - white, male, farmer died in Lewis county in December 1873 of consumption at age 69 yrs. He was born in Culpeper County to J & MARGARET SIMS. Informant: SARAH A SIMS, wife. (pgs 83 & 84)

Hi All, Great information! Has this been shown on television, or will it be aired at a future time, or does anyone know? Thanks, Linda Cashen Gaunt

In checking my Hord information I noticed Col. Guilieomus Smith was engaged in the slave trade about 1827-1835 and is listed in a Hord law suit that happened after James Hord Senior died. James Senior had numerous slaves and left them to his children, other people and some to have freedom. James also could have been married before he married Mary Susan (Molly) Miller, d of Simon Miller and Isabella Miller. Do not know when he married the Miller gal. Lawsuits on this also. Does any person know any of the names of this Guilieomus Smith's children? My Frances Ellen Slaughter, d of Frances Sofia Hord and Gabriel Slaughter married a Claudsley W Smith in Indiana at age 16. Several male Slaughters were also in Indiana. I know Frances Ellen Slaughter was born 10 March 1810 in Culpeper, VA and married 12 Dec. 1826 in Cark County, Indiana. I know she inherited money along with her two sisters married to a Brooks and Withers. Claudsley W Smith supposedly was from Vermont. Only one Census lists him in Indiana with a wife and young daughter. Frances Ellen Slaughter could have been acquainted with this Smith Family in Culpeper. Claudsley W Smith had a tendency to gamble and drink and left Frances Ellen with a young daughter. Years later he returned ill, had my great grandfather George Lawrence Smith and died in 1849. I believe Claudsley liked river boats and may have worked on one. Know my Gabriel Slaughter was NOT the Gov. of KY and may have had a brother Smith Slaughter. A William Slaughter signed James Hord's will. Louisville, KY

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Shotwell, Bruce Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2917 Message Board Post: Looking for the will of James Shotwell father of Emma J Shotwell, married name Emma J Bruce. Also any property and land records.

Now that there is a little activity, I hope that someone knows this family Mary PEMBERTON was born between 1820 and 1822. She married Richard Henry FIELD, son of Daniel FIELD, on 10 January 1839 at Culpeper County, VA, USA. She died between 1850 and 1860. a) William FIELD was born in 1842 b) Catherine FIELD was born in 1844 c) Zachariah FIELD was born in 1847 Lucie Field <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, I just found this email. We have changed our email to [email protected] we had the other address so long we were getting tons of spam. yes i do think this our field line... thanks gene field --- [email protected] wrote: > > Not sure if these are your Fields thought I would > send them on. > June > Source: Southern Biographies and Genealogies, > 1500s-1940s > The Fields. > The first person of the name in the parish register > is Henry Field, > Sr., a member of the first vestry chosen by the > freeholders and > housekeepers of St. Mark's Parish, at Germanna, in > January 1731. The > next is Abraham Field, elected vestryman at the > Great Fork Church in > 1744, and served till his death in 1774, a term of > thirty years. He > had a son John, who represented Culpeper in the > House of Burgesses in > 1765. He was probably the Col. John Field who had > served in Braddock's > War, and who fell, fighting gallantly at the head of > his regiment, at > the battle of Point Pleasant. One of his daughters > married > Page 57 > Lawrence Slaughter, an officer of the Revolution, > and who was the > father of John Field Slaughter, who married Miss > Alexander, of Prince > William. Another of Col. John Field's daughters > married Col. George > Slaughter, who raised one of the first companies of > minute-men in > Culpeper; and after the war moved to Kentucky with > George Rogers > Clarke, commanded a fort at the Falls of the Ohio, > and was one of the > founders of the city of Louisville, which was then > in the State of > Virginia. > Henry Field, Sr., the vestryman of 1731, served in > that office and as > churchwarden till 1762, a term of thirty-one years. > He executed many > commissions for the vestry, such as going to > Williamsburg on horseback > several times on their behalf, and paying quit-rents > for the churches > and glebes. He and Francis Slaughter and Robert > Green chose a site for > a chapel between Shaw's Mountain, the Devil's Run > and Hazel River. He > was succeeded in the vestry by Henry Field, Jr., who > served till his > removal from the parish of St. Mark's into Bromfield > Parish, whose > records are lost or we should probaly have found his > name on the > vestry-books there. He represented Culpeper in the > Convention at > Williamsburg in 1774 to consider the state of the > country, in the > House of Burgesses in 1775, and with French Strother > in the Convention > of 1776 which asserted the principle of religious > liberty, declared > American independence, and adopted the first > Constitution. Henry Field, > Jr., died in 1785, leaving six sons--Daniel, Henry, > George, Joseph, > Thomas and John, who were the ancestors of the > families of that name. > The late judge of this court, Richard H. Field, and > his brothers > Yancey and Stanton, were the sons of Daniel Field of > what is now > Madison. He (the Judge) married first Matilda, > daughter of Robert > Slaughter of the Grange, and second Philippa, > daughter of the Hon. > Philip P. Barbour. His three sons were killed in > battle during the > late war, and his daughter (Mrs. Norvell) is the > only surviving child. > Gen. James Field of the Culpeper bar, who lost a > limb at the battle of > Slaughter's Mountain, is a son of Yancey Field. He > married Miss > Cowherd of Orange. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Deb Koplen [email protected] http://home.swbell.net/koplend/index.htm "Right Smak Dab between Dallas and Fort Worth"

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KANSAS ORPHAN TRAIN "TIME-LINE" 1856 -- Orphan Train movement begun in New York City 1867 -- First Kansas-bound Orphan Train arrives in State 1893 -- 960 children had been "placed" in State 1902 -- Anna Laura Hill applies for position with CAS as "placing agent". She became the main agent for placement in Kansas. She was an agent for 30 years before retiring. 1901 -- Kansas passed legislation mandating that the State Board of Charities had authority to scrutinize all organizations or institutions placing children. With the passing of that legislation, the board immediately ruled that no homeless children could be brought into Kansas without a certificate of good character and a five thousand dollar security bond. "We cannot afford to have the State made a dumping ground for the dependent children of other states, especially New York." (William Stanley, Governor of Kansas, 1899-1903) 1910 -- Over 4,100 children had been "placed" in State 1927 -- Despite growing debate against indenture, 12 states -- Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Maryland, Rhode Island, Virginia, West Virginia, Nebraska, and Kansas still allowed indenture of institutional charges and children who had been turned over to county authorities or poor farms. 1930 -- Last Orphan Trains arrive in Kansas 1930 -- "Official" end to Orphan Train movement Beginning in 1854, charitable institutions in New York City began sending orphans on trains to the west to find new families, feeling that the children would fare better out west than on the streets of New York. Orphan trains arrived in Kansas between 1867 and 1930, and some 5000-6000 children were placed in Kansas homes A HISTORY OF THE ORPHAN TRAINS by Connie DiPasquale WHO WERE THESE ORPHAN TRAIN RIDERS? Orphans ... Foundlings ... Waifs ... Half-Orphans ... Street Arabs ... Street Urchins ... all terms used to describe the children who rode the Orphan Trains. When the Orphan Train movement began, in the mid-19th century, it was estimated that approximately 30,000 abandoned children were living on the streets of New York. And over the 75 year span of the Orphan Train movement, it is estimated that between 150,000 and 200,000 "orphan" children were relocated to new homes via the Orphan Trains. But the term "orphan" is used loosely in many cases. Some children were true orphans, no parents, no other family to look after them, living on the streets, sleeping in doorways, fending for themselves by whatever means necessary. But many of these children had parents. Some were "half-orphans", one parent had died and the remaining parent could not care for them, so they were placed in an orphanage. Some children still had both parents, but were merely "turned loose" by the parents because the family had grown too large and they couldn't care for all the children. Some were run-aways - from abuse, drunkeness, etc. The factors that "created" these children are many. Some of them are: parental death, due to disease, industrial accidents, starvation, etc. neglect, abandonment, prostitution. massive overpopulation in the New York area due to extensive immigration in the mid 19th century. a general attitude among the "higher society" that those in the "lower classes" didn't deserve help, that they "were poor because they chose not to help themselves, therefore they got what they deserved". WHO STARTED THE ORPHAN TRAINS? Basically, there were two main institutions responsible for this mass "emigration" of children from New York. Those institutions are The Children's Aid Society, and The New York Foundling Hospital. Both are still active today (in 1996) helping children. The first "train" went out from The Children's Aid Society on September 20, 1854, with 46 ten-to-twelve-year-old boys and girls. Their destination was Dowagiac, Michigan. All 46 children were successfully placed in new homes. While this "placement" effort of orphans was not entirely original to these two institutions, there had been similar efforts tried in Boston as early as the mid 1840s, they are the institutions that most often come to mind when discussing the Orphan Train movement. Rev. Charles Loring Brace and The Children's Aid Society: Brace, a 26 year old Congregational minister, found his "calling" a little closer to street-level, than the lofty climes of the pulpit. In 1853, concerned with the growing number of "homeless" children he saw wandering the streets of New York, he joined together with other "reformers" and founded the Childrens Aid Society. Unlike other charitable institutions of the time, he wanted to provide more than just food, clothing, and a place to sleep. He felt that education and the opportunity to learn a trade were necessary ingredients in properly caring for these children. For a short while, he tried helping these children with his institutions in New York City, establishing schools for them, teaching the boys a trade, inviting volunteering ladies to help teach the girls the proper way to behave and dress, establishing a "savings bank" to teach the boys to save their money rather than gamble it away. But just a year after founding the Children's Aid Society he knew he needed help. Thus, he took up the plan that Boston had tried ten years earlier. Taking "orphans" from the street, sending them "west" on trains and "placing them out" to families at the various stops along the way who were willing to "adopt" them. The Boston plan had also allowed for children to be taken on as "indentured servents", but this was not an acceptable option to Brace. He developed what he called "the family plan". This meant that a child should be taken into a home and treated as part of the family. He expected the "adoptive families" to provide for the "orphans" with the same food, clothing, education, spiritual training, etc. that they would for their own biological children. Sometimes this happened, sometimes it didn't. But, overall, Brace felt these orphans had a better chance at life with placement in a new home "out west", than they did remaining on the streets of New York. He also felt that moving these children "west" was better for them healthwise, than remaining in the city. So, the first group was sent out on September 20, 1854 ... and America's first "foster children" were placed. The basic procedure for "adopting" children from The Children's Aid Society was as follows. Determination was made of what children were to be sent out, if a child was not a "true" orphan, then "release for placement" was obtained from whatever parent/guardian remained available. It was decided where the train would travel, and what towns it would stop at. Advance "notice" of "Homes Wanted for Orphans" would be placed in key newspapers by the placing agents who were to accompany the children. It was desirable to have one male and one female agent accompany each group, but this was not always the case. Shortly before the day of departure (oftentimes just the night before) the children would be told that they were going on the train, and they would be bathed, given new clean clothing, and their hair tended to. Then they would board the train, and off they went to their new destiny. Upon arrival in one of the projected towns, they would disembark and go to perhaps the local opera house (sometimes the town hall or a local church) and be lined up on a stage or platform at the front of the room. Usually, a local town "committee" had been at work prior to the arrival of the train, trying to line up good potential families for the expected children. At this time, members of the community would be allowed to visit with (and inspect) the children. If a match-up was made between adult and child, and the local committee and placing agents were in agreement, then the child would leave the group and go on to his/her "new home". Often brothers and sisters were separated by the "adoption" process, sometimes never to see each other again. It then became the responsibility of the placing agent to "keep tabs" on each child they placed in a new home. The agent would make return trips to check on the children's welfare. If the placement was not working out, or the agent thought the child was being abused, he would then remove the child from it's new home and try to find another family. Sister Irene and The New York Foundling Hospital: The story of Sister Irene and The New York Foundling Hospital runs parallel with that of Rev. Brace and The Children's Aid Society. However, there were a few key differences in how they placed children in new homes. The Sisters of Charity of St. Vincent de Paul created the Catholic Charities of New York in 1869. Through The New York Foundling Hospital, they had always taken in abandoned babies. In the foyer of their building stood a white cradle were mothers could anonymously leave their children to be cared for by the Sisters. But as knowledge of this cradle spread, it wasn't long before there were more children than they could adequately care for. Thus, began the Foundling Hospital's "mercy trains" also known as "baby trains". The Sisters worked in conjunction with Priests throughout the Midwest and South in an effort to place these children in Catholic families. While the Children's Aid Society requested that the children they place be given spiritual training (the choice of religion was left up to the "adoptive" family), the Foundling Hospital's placements were strictly to Catholic families. Probably the largest difference in how the Foundling Hospital placed their children is that the children were not sent out to be "randomly" adopted from a town hall or opera house, but were "requested" ahead of time by families who wanted a child. Requests would be sent to the NYFH for a child (for example: a 2 year old, blue eyed, blond haired girl), and then the Sisters would do their best to find a "matching" child. They would then send the requesting family a "receipt" for the child telling when and where the child would arrive by train. This notice requested that the family be at the station ahead of time so as not to miss the train. When the train arrived, the new parents were to have their "notice of arrival" with them which they were to present to the Sisters. This notice had a number on it that would match up with a child on the train. Once the match was made, the parents were to have signed the "receipt" for the child, and they were free to leave with their new child. The Children's Aid Society and The New York Foundlinig Hospital continued to "place out" children until 1930. There were several reasons for the orphan train movement to end. A couple of the primary reasons were: the beginning of the depression in 1930 made it extremely hard for familes to consider "adding another mouth to feed", and there were new laws and new programs being instituted that were designed specifically to help children. These laws made it harder for the trains to continue bringing children into states, and new foster care homes were beginning to replace the large institution/orphanages of the past. It is estimated that there are approximately 500 actual Orphan Train Riders still living in 1996. All would be 70 years old or older. It is also estimated that around 2 million people are descendents of an Orphan Train Rider. Do you have a Rider in your past?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brown Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2916 Message Board Post: Frank Edward Brown was "adopted" by John R. Brown from Stevensburg sometime around 1898. He was born in 1886 in New York city. He came to Virginia to help work the farm. Does anyone know anything about him or whether people in Culpeper got kids from the Orphan Trains up north?

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Interesting site just cut and paste this site and enjoy. _http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:TvRDqtoPEOoJ:www.lexisnexis.com/academic/ guides/southern_hist/plantations/plantm6.htm+Fauquier+White+Sulphur+Springs,+V irginia&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=17&ie=UTF-8_ (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:TvRDqtoPEOoJ:www.lexisnexis.com/academic/guides/southern_hist/plantations/p lantm6.htm+Fauquier+White+Sulphur+Springs,+Virginia&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=17& ie=UTF-8)

Hello, I was wondering, if anyone had any information on a Benjamin Davis Jr.? He was born May 13, 1781 in Culpeper Co. Va. He died April 3, 1867 in Dahlonega, Lumpkin Co. Ga. He was the son of Benjamin Davis Sr., and Mary Bush? He was married to Martha "Patsy" Wansley/Wanslow on May 10, 1810 in Elbert Co. Ga. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Becky Carden

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HOUGHTON, JOHNSON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2196.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Although this could be a family connection, I can't locate anyone in Texas from this line. Sorry, Linda Cashen Gaunt

I have her as Alice Catherine Holtzclaw. Her daughter Rosamond Darnall married into my LATHAM line. What I have is posted on Rootsweb, with citations. Start here and browse: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jljernegan1&id=I8859 Jeff Jernegan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Utterbacks from VA > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/215.383.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Hello, > I'm looking for a Katharine Holtzclau Darnell. she married A Jeremiah > Darnell. I'm related to this family line they would be my > ggggggrandparents > thank you > Lisa Tauvell > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

_http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:1nljQ0moa84J:wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm. cgi%3Fop%3DREG%26db%3Dtmason1%26id%3DI5212+Katharine+Holtzclaw+Darnell.&hl=en& gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10&ie=UTF-8_ (http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:1nljQ0moa84J:wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=tmason1&id=I5212+Katharine+Holtzcl aw+Darnell.&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10&ie=UTF-8) check the above site for your _Katharine Holtzclaw_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tmason1&id=I692) was born ABT 1720 in Germantown, Fauquier, Virginia, and died ABT 1810 in , Fauquier, Virginia.

Jeremiah DARNELL died in 1795 in , Fauquier, Virginia. He married Katherine HOLTZCLAW on 23 Mar 1740 in Spotsylvania, Virginia. Katherine HOLTZCLAW [_Parents_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg218.htm#4748) ] was born about 1720 in , Fauquier, Virginia. She died in 1810 in , Fauquier, Virginia. She married Jeremiah DARNELL on 23 Mar 1740 in Spotsylvania, Virginia. Hans Jacob HOLTZKLAU [_Parents_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg216.htm#4733) ] was born in 1683 in Trupenbach, , Germany. He died in 1760 in Germantown, Fauquier, Virginia. He married Ann Margreth OTTERBACH on 7 Aug 1708 in Oberfischbach, Nassau/Siegen, Germany. Other marriages: _, Catherine_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg221.htm#4746) _, Catherine_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg575.htm#14300) Ann Margreth OTTERBACH [_Parents_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg216.htm#4731) ] was christened in 1686 in Trupenbach, , Germany. She died before Aug 1729 in Germantown, , Virginia. She married Hans Jacob HOLTZKLAU on 7 Aug 1708 in Oberfischbach, Nassau/Siegen, Germany. They had the following children: M i _Johann John HOLTZCLAW_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg218.htm#4729) M ii _Johann Heinrich Henry HOLTZCLAW_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg221.htm#4742) F iii _Ann Elizabeth HOLTZCLAW_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg220.htm#4724) F iv _Katherine HOLTZCLAW_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg218.htm#4737) M v _Harman HOLTZCLAW_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg218.htm#4738) F vi _Elizabeth HOLTZCLAW_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg218.htm#4747) F vii _Alice Katherine HOLTZCLAW_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg217.htm#2842) Check this site: _http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg218.htm#4748_ (http://www.couchfamily.info/pafg218.htm#4748)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/215.383.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I'm looking for a Katharine Holtzclau Darnell. she married A Jeremiah Darnell. I'm related to this family line they would be my ggggggrandparents thank you Lisa Tauvell

Rose, We don't know the names of most of his daughters. We know that our William's wife was named Sarah, maiden name unknown. Their oldest son was Silas [possibly William? Silas] Harris, b. 1775, who lived in Surry Co. on the South Fork of Mitchell River from 1804 until his death after 1850 [his wife was Edith Franklin, the daughter of John & Sarah "Sallie" Lewis Franklin of South Fork, Mitchell River.] Silas & Edith's children were: William Lewis [m. Hannah SMITH of Wilkes Co.], Joel [m. Sarah NORMAN of Surry Co.], John [m. (1) UNKNOWN; m. (2) Hannah LOWDEN of Surry], Sarah? [m. William GREEN & living 1850 in Wilkes Co. with her younger brother, Ambrose], Ambrose [m. Lucinda FIELDS & moved to Wilkes], Elizabeth? [m. Bird SNOW?], James [n.m. & d.s.p.], an unidentified DAUGHTER b. ca. 1814; Squire Henderson [m. Phebe/Feriba FIELDS & moved to Wilkes],Edith "Eada" [d.s.p.], and Mary Candace [unmarried, BUT had 5 children.] Then we are missing their eldest DAUGHTER, b. ca. 1785. Their third child was Mary Harris, b. 1789, who never married and appears to have had no children. Their fourth child was Lucinda "Lucy" Harris, who married Daniel FIELDS and lived her life in Wilkes Co. Daniel & Lucy's known children were: an unidentified DAUGHTER b. ca. 1818, Sarah "Sally" [d.s.p.], an unidentified DAUGHTER b. ca. 1821, an unidentified DAUGHTER b. ca. 1823, Rachel b. 1824/25 [d.s.p.], John W. FIELDS [m. twice, first wife unidentified, but had issue with her; m. (2) Charity DICKERSON---no children], and Elizabeth Fields, b. 1828/29 [d.s.p.] Lucy's husband, Daniel FIELDS was a Justice in Wilkes. Their fifth child was an unidentified SON, b. ca. 1792--- moved away to parts unknown. Their sixth child was an unidentified SON, b. 1795/96--- moved away to parts unknown. Their seventh child was an unidentified DAUGHTER, b. ca. 1797. [Possibly Margaret Harris, who married Joseph FIELDS of Wilkes Co.?] Their eighth child was James HARRIS, b. 1799 in Ashe Co., NC; married Frances "Franky" FIELDS in Wilkes Co. His father lived with him in 1840 in Wilkes Co.; in 1850, James still lived in Wilkes; by 1860, he had moved to Surry Co., where he lived on the South Fork of Mitchell River close to his oldest brother, Silas. James stayed there until sometime in the 1870's. By 1880, his wife Franky had died, and James was living in Ashe Co. in the household of his son-in-law, William RICHARDSON & James' daughter, Elizabeth Harris Richardson. James & Franky Fields Harris' children were William [Rev. Wm., m. Caroline POE of Surry], John [m. Julia HAYNES/HAINES of Surry Co.], Squire [m. Sarah "Sallie" WILMOTH], Elizabeth [m. William RICHARDSON of Surry, later Ashe Co.], James W. [m. Sally A. CAUDILL], Noah [not married in 1870, no record after that], Frances "Franky" [d.s.p.], and Joseph Martin harris [m.(1) Nancy CAUDILL; m. (2) Mary E. UNKNOWN; 1880, next door to William & Elizabeth Harris Richardson in Ashe Co., NC]. Their ninth child was an unidentified SON, b. 1801/02. Every proven grandchild of Will & Sarah Harris had children, unless they were noted as d.s.p. above. By 1920 and 1930, there were descendants of Will & Sarah Harris in North Carolina [at least Surry, Ashe, Wilkes, Alleghany, Caldwell, and Yadkins Cos.], Virginia, Tennessee, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Idaho, and Washington State. We know there must be many more out there who don't know they are descended from Will & Sarah Harris of Culpeper, Virginia & Surry/Ashe/Wilkes Cos., North Carolina. We would love to reattach what must surely be huge missing branches of our Harris family tree. Our Will Harris moved to North Carolina from Culpeper with two friends. He appears to have been really close friends with Thomas WALSH/WELSH/ WELCH, who lived next door to Will in 1790 in Wilkes Co., NC [on the other of Will & Sarah was the mysterious Susannah Harris, who had been living WITH them in 1787.] Thomas Walsh [etc.] was the son of a man of the same name who lived in Orange Co., VA; Thomas appears to have remained in NW NC for a number of years, but he returned to Orange Co., Virginia, and died there. The other man who appeared in both Culpeper, VA and Wilkes, NC was a Thomas GRIMSLEY, who appears to have been a younger man, and was probably was a boy in 1776 in Culpeper. I don't know exactly who this Thomas GRIMSLEY's children were, but I suspect there was some intermarriage between his children and at least the brother of Edith Franklin Harris [William Lewis FRANKLIN of Surry.] One person I have not been able to clearly identify, but who was in Culpeper Co., VA in 1782 and was a minor, was a James HARRIS, who was recorded in the household of a Susannah WILLIAMS there. There was a record a year or two before that in the Minutes of St. Mark's Parish of Culpeper that mentioned a James HARRIS having small pox---possibly that James was my Will Harris' brother? And the minor James Harris of 1782 may have been Will's nephew??? "A" James HARRIS patented land in Ashe Co., NC in 1800 or 1801, but had disappeared by 1810. Was he our William's nephew? And where did he end up? Pam [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [NCASHE] Group 6 Was there a daughter Leah in this family? Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Stone" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [NCASHE] Group 6 > Hi, all, > > I am Pam Stone Ross, who Ira mentions in his > reply to Carol [below.] > > Additional information on our own line is that, prior > to going to that part of Surry Co. that later became > Stokes Co., NC in 1786 [and later moving to Wilkes > & Ashe Cos., NC, before returning to Wilkes, where > he died in 1848---he has descendants in Ashe, > Wilkes, Surry, and Alleghany Cos., NC and in > a lot of other places in the country that we know of.] > > Our William Harris, whose descendants' DNA matches > that of Ira Harris III, appears to have been possibly > the son of a William? Harris of Culpeper Co., VA > > There was a William HARRIS of Culpeper, VA > in 1763 that MAY have been the father of our Will > Harris who moved to Surry, NC in 1786. > > I am trying, but cannot prove this line prior > to my William Harris, b. 1752 in VA. > > This is OUR BRICK WALL. > > We are so trying to PROVE THIS LINE > BEFORE we have it. > > Any help would so be appreciated. > > Pam > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol E Barron" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:35 PM > Subject: Fw: Re: Group 6 > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Carol E Barron <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:33:06 -0500 > Subject: Re: Group 6 > > This line is documented in Edgecombe County, North Carolina in the > 1740s through land deeds between Richard & Margaret (Kimbrough) > Harris and her brother Marmaduke Kimbrough. > Richard is the grandson of Robert through his son Robert. > 1750-1751 They are in Granville County, North Carolina according to > Tax Records and land records. > > > Thank you, Ira, for responding. Since your dates of 1740s then 1750-51 > are so close to the date I'm looking at which is 1748 Hanover Co....was > your Robert still in Hanover in 1748 that you're aware of? I'm trying to > pinpoint who the Robert of St. Martins, Hanover is in a 1748 Amelia deed > selling land to my Tho. Harris also of St. Martins Hanover--this Robert > rec'd the patent for this Amelia land in 1745. Then, in 1763 there's > still a Robert of St. Martins Hanover when my Tho. Jr. sells the same > 1748 land back to this Robert. Still yet in 1771, we have a Robert/wife > Eliz. of St. Martins Hanover in 1771 P.E. deed selling his P.E. land to > Stephen Davis of St. Martins Hanover. Trying to sort out these Robert's. > > 1) Robert Harris 1737/38 (Partridge Ledger) > > 2) Robert Harris, Jr 1737/38 (Partridge Ledger) > > 3) Robert Harris, New Market Mill 1738 (Va Gazette) > > 4) Robert Harris, Jr. New Market Mill 1738 (Va Gazette) > > 5) Robert Harris St. Martins Hanover, 1748 Amelia deed (signs, no wife) > (sells to my Thomas Harris same Co./Par.) > > 6) Tho. Jr. of Louisa Co. sells to Robert Harris St. Martins Hanover 1763 > P.E. Co. land (Tho. marks his name/wife Saborey) > > 7) Robert Harris Sep 15, 1769 living near Harrisburg Granville Co. NC > (ref: Va Gazette) > > 8) Robert Harris/Eliz 1771 St. Martins Hanover Co. (marked his P.E. Co. > deed sells to Stephen Davis of St. Martins Hanover Co.) > > > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:35:22 -0500 Ira Harris <[email protected]> > writes: >> Carol, >> >> My line seems to be the trunk line for most of the others. The >> earliest date I have on Robert is that he was born About 1635, >> probably in Virginia. >> This line is documented in Edgecombe County, North Carolina in the >> >> 1740s through land deeds between Richard & Margaret (Kimbrough) >> Harris and her brother Marmaduke Kimbrough. >> Richard is the grandson of Robert through his son Robert. >> 1750-1751 They are in Granville County, North Carolina according to >> >> Tax Records and land records. > >> Some believe that Robert's dad may have been William Harris "of >> Jamestown". He came to America from England aboard the "George" in >> >> 1621. He was born in England in 1596. >> William was part of the surveying crew of Secretary Claiborne. >> >> Pam Stone Ross' line were in the western part of North Carolina >> (Ashe, Surry, Wilkes) after the Revolutionary War. >> >> The Dabney Harris line (part of the Christopher & Temperance >> (Overton) Harris line is also in North Carolina. I do not remember >> >> the timeframe for them. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Ira >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, all, I am Pam Stone Ross, who Ira mentions in his reply to Carol [below.] Additional information on our own line is that, prior to going to that part of Surry Co. that later became Stokes Co., NC in 1786 [and later moving to Wilkes & Ashe Cos., NC, before returning to Wilkes, where he died in 1848---he has descendants in Ashe, Wilkes, Surry, and Alleghany Cos., NC and in a lot of other places in the country that we know of.] Our William Harris, whose descendants' DNA matches that of Ira Harris III, appears to have been possibly the son of a William? Harris of Culpeper Co., VA There was a William HARRIS of Culpeper, VA in 1763 that MAY have been the father of our Will Harris who moved to Surry, NC in 1786. I am trying, but cannot prove this line prior to my William Harris, b. 1752 in VA. This is OUR BRICK WALL. We are so trying to PROVE THIS LINE BEFORE we have it. Any help would so be appreciated. Pam [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol E Barron" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Fw: Re: Group 6 ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Carol E Barron <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:33:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Group 6 This line is documented in Edgecombe County, North Carolina in the 1740s through land deeds between Richard & Margaret (Kimbrough) Harris and her brother Marmaduke Kimbrough. Richard is the grandson of Robert through his son Robert. 1750-1751 They are in Granville County, North Carolina according to Tax Records and land records. Thank you, Ira, for responding. Since your dates of 1740s then 1750-51 are so close to the date I'm looking at which is 1748 Hanover Co....was your Robert still in Hanover in 1748 that you're aware of? I'm trying to pinpoint who the Robert of St. Martins, Hanover is in a 1748 Amelia deed selling land to my Tho. Harris also of St. Martins Hanover--this Robert rec'd the patent for this Amelia land in 1745. Then, in 1763 there's still a Robert of St. Martins Hanover when my Tho. Jr. sells the same 1748 land back to this Robert. Still yet in 1771, we have a Robert/wife Eliz. of St. Martins Hanover in 1771 P.E. deed selling his P.E. land to Stephen Davis of St. Martins Hanover. Trying to sort out these Robert's. 1) Robert Harris 1737/38 (Partridge Ledger) 2) Robert Harris, Jr 1737/38 (Partridge Ledger) 3) Robert Harris, New Market Mill 1738 (Va Gazette) 4) Robert Harris, Jr. New Market Mill 1738 (Va Gazette) 5) Robert Harris St. Martins Hanover, 1748 Amelia deed (signs, no wife) (sells to my Thomas Harris same Co./Par.) 6) Tho. Jr. of Louisa Co. sells to Robert Harris St. Martins Hanover 1763 P.E. Co. land (Tho. marks his name/wife Saborey) 7) Robert Harris Sep 15, 1769 living near Harrisburg Granville Co. NC (ref: Va Gazette) 8) Robert Harris/Eliz 1771 St. Martins Hanover Co. (marked his P.E. Co. deed sells to Stephen Davis of St. Martins Hanover Co.) On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:35:22 -0500 Ira Harris <[email protected]> writes: > Carol, > > My line seems to be the trunk line for most of the others. The > earliest date I have on Robert is that he was born About 1635, > probably in Virginia. > This line is documented in Edgecombe County, North Carolina in the > > 1740s through land deeds between Richard & Margaret (Kimbrough) > Harris and her brother Marmaduke Kimbrough. > Richard is the grandson of Robert through his son Robert. > 1750-1751 They are in Granville County, North Carolina according to > > Tax Records and land records. > Some believe that Robert's dad may have been William Harris "of > Jamestown". He came to America from England aboard the "George" in > > 1621. He was born in England in 1596. > William was part of the surveying crew of Secretary Claiborne. > > Pam Stone Ross' line were in the western part of North Carolina > (Ashe, Surry, Wilkes) after the Revolutionary War. > > The Dabney Harris line (part of the Christopher & Temperance > (Overton) Harris line is also in North Carolina. I do not remember > > the timeframe for them. > > Hope this helps, > > Ira > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ball-Chapman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2915 Message Board Post: Hello, Looking for info on John Ball born @ 1765 married Nancy Chapman 21 Dec 1792 Culpeper. Have children. Looking for his parents. This has been a brick wall for many years. I hope someone can help. Cindy