I believe Frances S Hord and Gabriel Slaughter had at least six children and she wasn't a spring chicken when she married. I have John, Lawrence, Frances Ellen(mine),James, William, Mary. By 1820-30 I found a James, William, John and a John L Slaughter in Indiana. I know my Frances Ellen was born in Culpeper March 10, 1810 so Frances S Hord would have been alive then. Believe Frances was living in the Indiana Area with brothers as she married in Indiana at 16. (12 Dec, 1826) To fit some of these Slaughters I need a possible date of Frances S Hord Slaughter's death. If she and Gabriel died it would explain her being with brothers. I do not have a death date of Frances S Hord or Gabriel. Could Frances Hord Slaughter died sometime after the March 1810 birth? Her parents were James Hord Senior and Mary Susan(Mollie)Miller.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith, Brown Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2920 Message Board Post: Looking for info on Letitia Brown smith married to Joseph T. Smith.

Frances HAWKINS m UNK KENNEDY. Who was he? Frances "Fanny" HAWKINS b. 3/9/1783 Orange/Culpeper Co., Va. d. 8/9/1839 Fox Creek, Anderson Co., Ky--do Capt. James HAWKINS b. 1744 Orange Co., Va. d. 3/2/1819 Anderson Co., Ky and Jane BOURNE b. c. 1748 Virginia d. c. 1/1826 Anderson Co., Ky Frances m 1) An UNK KENNEDY, KENADY, CANNADAY, etc. m 2) 3/12/1808 Lexington, Fayette Co., Ky--John Hackley REEDS b. 1780 St. Mark's Parish, Culpeper Co., Va.--my uncle. John was the son of Samuel REEDS c. 1740-1814 and Sarah HACKLEY(m 1765 Culpeper, do John Hackley and Judith Ball)--my ancestors m 3) 8/26/1814 Franklin Co., Ky--William ZIMMERMAN b. 1/4/1787 Culpeper Co., Va. d. 3/15/1865 Anderson Co., Ky. William was the son of Frederick ZIMMERMAN b. 1756 Germanna d. 12/10/1804 Lexington, Fayette Co., KY and Judith BOURNE (Andrew) c. 1756-1844 Charlene Reeds Ebeling

Sure, Craig. You remember it right! And it is a lot of fun. I almost hate to put it on a public space where it is archived....my research on this Hawkins line in this time frame is not fully documented. So I'll tell the story and try to remember which facts are indeed documented and which are pretty much theory or guess. Because of my dad's DNA matches, I began looking at the Hawkins/Bourne families. Because of Moses Hawkins's death in the Revolution and his will and paper work, it is pretty much more than guess that he was a brother to James Hawkins who married Jane Bourne, William who married Elizabeth Bourne, and Benjamin who married Ann Bourne. It is also more than a guess that they were the sons of Benjamin and Sarah Willis Hawkins. They also had a sister named Lucy who married Francis Moore. The widow of Moses Hawkins was Susannah Stother and she married Thomas Coleman and moved her children by Moses with them to Kentucky. There are researchers who doubt the fact that Sarah (mother to these siblings) was for sure the daughter of William Willis and the "oft married" Sarah .....can't remember all of her names...However, it seems that William and Elizabeth Bourne Hawkins named one of their sons Willis....and so I go with the surname Willis..... Now my theory which is WAYYYYYY far from being proved is that this family is connected with John and Mary Long Hawkins. And before I go anywhere else with this, let me say that I have absolutely no proof that Mary's maiden name was Long.....I have asked other researchers where the Long comes from and have had no one give me any proof that she might have had maiden name Long. But I have been using that designation to identify this John Hawkins for so long that I have trouble abandoning it. (There is an Elizabeth Long who married Nicholas Hawkins--this couple would have lived from circa 1704-mid 1700's) But John and Mary Long(?) Hawkins is the couple that is connected to the Smith Family. And here is some of the documentation that I have used in making up my story: > Deed Book C of Spotsylvania county Oct 7, 1740. Mary Hawkins, widow of > John Hawkins, late deceased, and Joseph Hawkins, George Smith and > Elizabeth his wife, and Phebe Hawkins to Philemon Hawkins. 50 pounds > current money 132 a on Northanna River, in St Geo Par Spts. Co and all > personal estate of Sd. John Hawkins, Dec in the possession of sd > Philemon. Thos Chew, Jos. Morton, Charles Smith. Oct. 7 1740. > Land transaction: April 7, 1747. Taliver Cragg and Mary his wife, of > St. Geo Par. Spts Co. to Joseph Hawkins of sd Par. and county. 5 > pounds curr. 200 a. on both sides of Terry's Run in Co and Par afsd, > left by the last will of John Hawkins decd. to be divided between > Mary, his wife, and four of his children Elizabeth Smith, Philemon > Hawkins, Phebe Smith, and the sd. Mary Cragg. Witnesses, A. Foster, > Edmund Foster, Larkin Johnston. April 7, 1747. and the one that you were remembering: Phebe Hawkins, and infant, by Mary Hawkins her next friend, complains July 1735, of Stephen Noblit (otherwise called Stephen Smith). Charles Noblit alias Smith, brother of the defendant, being possessed of divers goods and chattels to the value of 200pounds intended to marry Phebe. On the last day of March, 1733-4 the defendant scandalously and maliciously did say “Phebe Hawkins is a whore and I have lay’n with her” . She has thus fallen into great infamy and Charles has refused to marry her. She asks damages of 250pounds current money. .....Dismissed. and then my data base says: > > Phebe later married Charles Smith when he was using the name Smith > instead of Noblit. (this makes more sense after I read land > transactions that indicated that Charles was born to Samuel Smith out > of wedlock) His will in Louisa, Co Va bk2, pg 33. “Left to John > Hawkins of Hanover Co, in trust for children: Elizabeth Brown, Lucy > Smith, Susannah Wild, William Smith, Ann Smith, Sarah Smith. Ex John > Lewis, Patrick Henry, John Hawkins, son William Smith. Dated 30 Aug > 1768. Witnesses Cosby Duke, John Cosby, Thomas Teel. Proved 12 Dec 1768. and > In February 2006 I read land transactions of Orange County at LDS FHL. > On film #33013 Orange County Deed Book #9 1743-1744: Hawkins to Smith. > Philemon Hawkins and Sarah his wife of the County of Spotslvania in St > George’s Parish selling to George Smith of the County of Orange of St > Thomas’s Parish all that parcel of land containing four hundred acres > being part of a patent granted to Joseph Hawkins and by the said > Joseph Hawkins granted to one ????? and by the said ????/sold to > Samuel Smith and by the said Samuel Smith given unto the said George > by his bond bearing date 23rd day of January 1732 and also given by > the sd Samuel to the said Geroge his son by his last will and > testament and together with other things which will divided the estate > of the said Samuel amongst his children and the said will being given > into the care of one Stephen J. K Smith from whom the said will was > stolen and destroyed which occasioned the said Philemon Hawkins and > Sarah his wife to have the right of the estate of the said Samuel > Smith he being deceased and the said Sarah Hawkins the only child that > survived him the said Samuel that was born in wedlock. The said land > being bounded as follows: Beginning at ...thence south...oak and > hickory standing on the North side of the North Fork of the > Northanna....lots more info...Then immediately following is another > indenture between Philemon Hawkins and Sarah his wife selling to > Charles Smith. I would be happy to dig more if I can be of more help. I do remember hearing from another researcher that Stephen J.K. Smith was baptized or christened or whatever: Justephenica...and Richmond and Essex Counties does ring a bell with me on these people....I could look to see what I have....Marsha Craig Kilby wrote: >Marsha--I have run across these people before in my Hawkins research. Could >you give me time frame on these Smiths (because those Hawkins were NOT my >line, I am not even sure what I did with the research. I do remember one of >the Smiths saying "I have slept with Phebe Hawkins and she is a whore" and >his being sued by her mother for saying it. > >BUT, the point is, I am working for a client on SMITH and his line goes back >to Richmond County, VA. His ancestor moved to Boutetourt County, but one of >his brothers was named Samuel but we have no idea what happened to him. He >was born in the early 1720s and I think this time frame MAY be about right. >So, a refresher course on the Smiths of Orange you are talking about would >be helpful. > >Craig > > > > > >

Hi, Jeff. My name is Marsha Moses and I normally live in Huntington, WV. I do a lot of research in Eastern Ky. However, I am temporarily living in Florida and the only files that I brought with me are my Hawkins lines. Luckily, the Smith information is in those files and piles. I am so happy to chat with you. I would love to have more information about George and Elizabeth Hawkins Smith! And I would love to share what I have from this end as well. I research the Hawkins surname in Orange County and Culpeper County, Virginia. My dad did DNA testing for me for the Hawkins surname several years ago. We are part of group #1 in the Hawkins DNA surname study. Several years ago you couldn't have talked me into the idea that we were related to all of the Hawkins and related surnames who moved to Kentucky in the area surrounding present day Lexington in the late 1700's and even before and after those dates.....but my dad's closest match is a man who believes that he descends from James and Jane Bourne Hawkins who were among the many family members who made the move. James Hawkins died in Anderson County Ky in 1719. This information is from other researchers and does not really make sense because Anderson County was not formed until 1827. But I am mentioning it because the important fact here is that he did indeed move to KY before 1719. George and Charles Smith seem to have been the illegitimate sons of Samuel Smith. At one time at least one of the Smith men went by the surname Noblit according to notes in my data base. George and Charles's half sister, Sarah who married Philemon Hawkins seems to have been the only legitimate child living (perhaps the only child born) when Samuel's will was made. Does this agree with your notes? This Smith and Hawkins family has a lot of interesting paper trails and I have really enjoyed looking at them. I would be happy to compare notes with you. Marsha [email protected] wrote: >My name is Jeff Jeppson from Kentucky. I am related to Charles Smith's >brother, George Smith, who married Elizabeth Hawkins. George Smith and >Elizabeth Hawkins had a son named Francis Smith, who married a Mary. Their >Daughter Lydia Smith married William Higgins of Kentucky. Two Daughters >Malinda Catherine Higgins and Mary Ann Amanda Higgins married Thomas L. Moore of >Bourbon County Kentucky. I can go further but wanted to introduce myself >to the Culpeper Listeners. William Higgins was the son of Aaron Higgins, >a early explorer and settler of Kentucky. > >Jeff > > >

Dear Marsha, I think I saw Hawkins in among the Vallandinghams or VanLandinghams. Tom marsha moses wrote: > Hi, Jeff. My name is Marsha Moses and I normally live in Huntington, > WV. I do a lot of research in Eastern Ky. However, I am temporarily > living in Florida and the only files that I brought with me are my > Hawkins lines. Luckily, the Smith information is in those files and > piles. I am so happy to chat with you. I would love to have more > information about George and Elizabeth Hawkins Smith! And I would love > to share what I have from this end as well. > > I research the Hawkins surname in Orange County and Culpeper County, > Virginia. My dad did DNA testing for me for the Hawkins surname several > years ago. We are part of group #1 in the Hawkins DNA surname study. > Several years ago you couldn't have talked me into the idea that we were > related to all of the Hawkins and related surnames who moved to Kentucky > in the area surrounding present day Lexington in the late 1700's and > even before and after those dates.....but my dad's closest match is a > man who believes that he descends from James and Jane Bourne Hawkins who > were among the many family members who made the move. James Hawkins > died in Anderson County Ky in 1719. This information is from other > researchers and does not really make sense because Anderson County was > not formed until 1827. But I am mentioning it because the important > fact here is that he did indeed move to KY before 1719. > > George and Charles Smith seem to have been the illegitimate sons of > Samuel Smith. At one time at least one of the Smith men went by the > surname Noblit according to notes in my data base. George and Charles's > half sister, Sarah who married Philemon Hawkins seems to have been the > only legitimate child living (perhaps the only child born) when Samuel's > will was made. Does this agree with your notes? > > This Smith and Hawkins family has a lot of interesting paper trails and > I have really enjoyed looking at them. I would be happy to compare > notes with you. Marsha > >

Hi Cathy Curious as to the Hansbroughs / Smiths you descend from. William and two different Peter Hansbroughs from Culpeper Co. Virginia. Cathy S. Phillips Thanks Jim Wigginton [email protected]

Dear Mr. Melton, What are some of the Hansbrough names connected to this Smith family. I descend from two different William and two different Peter Hansbroughs from Culpeper Co. Virginia. Cathy S. Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Smith > Hello Listers: > Is anyone looking for information on Philip Smith, Revolutionary War > veteran > of Hunterdon CO, NJ who settled for a time in Culpeper? His wife of > Teresa > Herrin, was probably related to the Herrins of Brandy Station. Philip and > Teresa had several children, one of whom was Eliza who married a Wharton > in 1795. > Another was George W. Smith who married Maria Walden Gayle of Caroline CO > and made his home in Culpeper until he moved, in his old age, to live with > dau > Mary Smith Dunn in Gordonsville. George died in 1895 and is buried at > Maplewood. Bwtween 1810 and 1829 Rev. War veteran Philip Smith and wife > Teresa, along > with several of their children moved first to Frederick CO, VA, then > began a > migration that took them to Trigg CO, KY where they settled. Philip died > in > 1833 in Trigg CO.,KY. Names associated with George Smith's family are > Parr, > Kennedy, Hansborough, Jennings, and Dunn. I have his pension application > which > was supported by testimony from a Jonathan Smith, also a Rev. War veteran > of > Hunterdon, NJ, also known to have been in VA before his migration to Todd > CO, KY, an adjoining county to Trigg CO. I have information to exchange > on both > Philip and Jonathan if anyone else is working on either line. It is my > opinion they are related but I don't have proof of that. Eldred W. > Melton > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.25/515 - Release Date: 11/3/2006 > >

Hello Listers: Is anyone looking for information on Philip Smith, Revolutionary War veteran of Hunterdon CO, NJ who settled for a time in Culpeper? His wife of Teresa Herrin, was probably related to the Herrins of Brandy Station. Philip and Teresa had several children, one of whom was Eliza who married a Wharton in 1795. Another was George W. Smith who married Maria Walden Gayle of Caroline CO and made his home in Culpeper until he moved, in his old age, to live with dau Mary Smith Dunn in Gordonsville. George died in 1895 and is buried at Maplewood. Bwtween 1810 and 1829 Rev. War veteran Philip Smith and wife Teresa, along with several of their children moved first to Frederick CO, VA, then began a migration that took them to Trigg CO, KY where they settled. Philip died in 1833 in Trigg CO.,KY. Names associated with George Smith's family are Parr, Kennedy, Hansborough, Jennings, and Dunn. I have his pension application which was supported by testimony from a Jonathan Smith, also a Rev. War veteran of Hunterdon, NJ, also known to have been in VA before his migration to Todd CO, KY, an adjoining county to Trigg CO. I have information to exchange on both Philip and Jonathan if anyone else is working on either line. It is my opinion they are related but I don't have proof of that. Eldred W. Melton

No, problem, Jan. I never miss a chance to throw information "out there" in hopes someone else can add a tidbit to what I have....I do hope that your Sarah Smith gets lots of response. There is also a Stephen Just...Justephenica (Stephen J. K. Smith) .....that another researcher researches who seems to have been mixed up with the Hawkins families as well. Best of luck. Hope your query gets lots of good answers. Marsha [email protected] wrote: >Marsha, thanks very much! My Sarah Smith would have been born too late to >have been "the Sarah" of this family. I appreciate your time and effort in >sending the info. Jan > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Marsha--I have run across these people before in my Hawkins research. Could you give me time frame on these Smiths (because those Hawkins were NOT my line, I am not even sure what I did with the research. I do remember one of the Smiths saying "I have slept with Phebe Hawkins and she is a whore" and his being sued by her mother for saying it. BUT, the point is, I am working for a client on SMITH and his line goes back to Richmond County, VA. His ancestor moved to Boutetourt County, but one of his brothers was named Samuel but we have no idea what happened to him. He was born in the early 1720s and I think this time frame MAY be about right. So, a refresher course on the Smiths of Orange you are talking about would be helpful. Craig > From: marsha moses <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:32:08 -0500 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [VACULPEP] Smith > > You are right....the Smith name is terrible to look at. However, there > is one Smith family in Culpeper that I an also interested in. Well, I am > not sure that they were in Culpeper....but they were in the general > area. This family is linked to Samuel Smith. Samuel had a will in Louisa > County and names one of his children as Sarah. I have been interested in > this family because they intermarried with John and Mary Hawkins's > family. John and Mary Hawkins seem to have had three children who > married children of Samuel Smith. Their son, Philemon, married Samuel's > only legitimate child with his wife...Sarah Smith. Two of their > daughters, Phebe and Elizabeth married Charles and George respectively. > Here is one of the pieces of information on this family in my data base: > > Phebe later married Charles Smith when he was using the name Smith > instead of Noblit. (this makes more sense after I read land transactions > that indicated that Charles was born to Samuel Smith out of wedlock) His > will in Louisa, Co Va bk2, pg 33. ³Left to John Hawkins of Hanover Co, > in trust for children: Elizabeth Brown, Lucy SMith, Susannah Wild, > William Smith, Ann Smith, Sarah Smith. Ex John Lewis, Patrick Henry, > John Hawkins, son William Smith. Dated 30 Aug 1768. Witnesses Cosby > Duke, John Cosby, Thomas Teel. Proved 12 Dec 1768. > > Certainly this is a really interesting Smith family....Marsha in WV > > [email protected] wrote: > >> Is there a special group for folks working on Smith families? I have a >> marriage record of a marriage with a Sarah Smith. However, there are so many >> Smiths, I do not know where to start. Any suggestions out there? Jan >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

My name is Jeff Jeppson from Kentucky. I am related to Charles Smith's brother, George Smith, who married Elizabeth Hawkins. George Smith and Elizabeth Hawkins had a son named Francis Smith, who married a Mary. Their Daughter Lydia Smith married William Higgins of Kentucky. Two Daughters Malinda Catherine Higgins and Mary Ann Amanda Higgins married Thomas L. Moore of Bourbon County Kentucky. I can go further but wanted to introduce myself to the Culpeper Listeners. William Higgins was the son of Aaron Higgins, a early explorer and settler of Kentucky. Jeff

Marsha, thanks very much! My Sarah Smith would have been born too late to have been "the Sarah" of this family. I appreciate your time and effort in sending the info. Jan

Does anyone know the history and formation of this regiment during the War of 1812? Thanks Scott

You are right....the Smith name is terrible to look at. However, there is one Smith family in Culpeper that I an also interested in. Well, I am not sure that they were in Culpeper....but they were in the general area. This family is linked to Samuel Smith. Samuel had a will in Louisa County and names one of his children as Sarah. I have been interested in this family because they intermarried with John and Mary Hawkins's family. John and Mary Hawkins seem to have had three children who married children of Samuel Smith. Their son, Philemon, married Samuel's only legitimate child with his wife...Sarah Smith. Two of their daughters, Phebe and Elizabeth married Charles and George respectively. Here is one of the pieces of information on this family in my data base: Phebe later married Charles Smith when he was using the name Smith instead of Noblit. (this makes more sense after I read land transactions that indicated that Charles was born to Samuel Smith out of wedlock) His will in Louisa, Co Va bk2, pg 33. “Left to John Hawkins of Hanover Co, in trust for children: Elizabeth Brown, Lucy SMith, Susannah Wild, William Smith, Ann Smith, Sarah Smith. Ex John Lewis, Patrick Henry, John Hawkins, son William Smith. Dated 30 Aug 1768. Witnesses Cosby Duke, John Cosby, Thomas Teel. Proved 12 Dec 1768. Certainly this is a really interesting Smith family....Marsha in WV [email protected] wrote: >Is there a special group for folks working on Smith families? I have a >marriage record of a marriage with a Sarah Smith. However, there are so many >Smiths, I do not know where to start. Any suggestions out there? Jan > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rouse Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QBC.2ACI/2919 Message Board Post: Searching for info on the Rouse family. My line is Richard>Granville>Moses>Michael>Matthias>John. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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Is there a special group for folks working on Smith families? I have a marriage record of a marriage with a Sarah Smith. However, there are so many Smiths, I do not know where to start. Any suggestions out there? Jan

Actually it was on this morning. It was a very brief part of the whole segment on Robin's ancestry. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Bowen Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 7:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VACULPEP] Good Morning America visits Culpeper I went to the Good Morning America web site and they say the ancestry bit for Robin Roberts is next week: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2607542&page=1 Kathleen On 11/1/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Great information! Has this been shown on television, or will it be > aired at a future time, or does anyone know? > > Thanks, > Linda Cashen Gaunt > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathleen Bowen Davidsonville, MD Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. Simons: http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I went to the Good Morning America web site and they say the ancestry bit for Robin Roberts is next week: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2607542&page=1 Kathleen On 11/1/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Great information! Has this been shown on television, or will it be aired > at > a future time, or does anyone know? > > Thanks, > Linda Cashen Gaunt > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathleen Bowen Davidsonville, MD Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. Simons: http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons