Folks, I directed this person to Pat Ruble Spencer and Sara Green (I hope I have the expertise surnames correct, here). I believe Sara may be online. In fact, I hope she will contact me. If anyone else has Ruble expertise, please contact the original poster at: julee@brightok.net Thanks, Vince I just ran across a note from you about George Washington Ruble. My grandfather was John Washington Ruble, and I wonder if Washington, being a middle name was an old family name. My grandfather was born in Lebanon, Missouri 1884 and died in Holdenville, Oklahoma 1967. Does any of this connect with your search? julee@brightok.net