Folks: Does anyone have more details on this link? I am not quite sure it exists yet, but it seems almost certain it does... Benjamin Carper + Phebe Leffel ---> Martha J. Carper (among others) Martha J. Carper married a Givens, and had issue: Dr. Robt. Givens. Robert Givens married daughter of Sabina Payne... Paynes crossed Davis line in Bath County! This represents the juncture, in the past, of my wife's mother's Carper lines, and her father's Davis lines... Thanks, Vince