This data comes from many, not just myself, as even a cursory inspection will reveal... Descendants of Nicolaus Coerper Generation No. 1 1. NICOLAUS1 COERPER was born Abt. 1703 in Baden Germany, and died Aft. 1790 in Lancaster, PA. He married ANNA MARGARETHA BARBARA MARSTELLER December 03, 1734 in New Providence Twp, Montgomery, Pennsylvania. She was born February 12, 1708/09 in Pfungstadt, Hesse-Darmstadt, Parish of Reichelsheim. Notes for NICOLAUS COERPER: LaniMacA@aol.com (an apparent historian on the Philadelphia Rootsweb Page), looked up, in Strassburger's Pennsylvania German Pioneers, for me, Nicholas... Reply: On board the ship Samuel, Hugh Percy commander, from Rotterdam via Cowes, England, qualified 11 Aug 1732, Nicholas CORBER (umlaut over the O), age 22. The first version of the list, written by the captain or one of the ship's officers, includes women and children, non of whom have a surname similar to Nicholas'. There were 106 men (age 16 and older), 89 women and 84 children on board, for a total of 279 passengers, all of whom are noted to be Palatines. In the second and third versions of the list for this ship, which is made up of the adult male passengers' signatures, your ancestor signed his own name as Niklas KORPER (umlaut over the O) and Niklas KERPER, respectively. Note: Cowes was an English port on the Isle of Wight). He was Niklas Korper on the signature list on the ship, Niklas Kerper on Clerk of Court's list when passengers took oath of allegiance to King of England and American Colonies (called 'Declaration of FIdelity and Abjuration'), and he was Nicholas Corber on the ship captain's list. - Margery Ellis. >From Egle's Notes & Queries: Baptismal Record of Rev. John Casper Stoever 1730-1799. Cunradt Walther, (Coventry.) Walther -- Margaretha Barbara, b. Jan. Feb. 18, 1739. Sponsors, Nicolaus Coerper and wife Margaretha. Note: born January, baptized February. Joan Carper Fraser of California says (according to Cyndy Shreffler, 2250 Woodstock Ct., Troy, Ohio 45373 (Shreffler2@aol.com): 'Nicholaus was aboard the Samuel in 1732. He was from Unter-ostern, Hesse-Darnstadt in the Palatinate.' ================= Vincent, I saw your name at rootsweb.com. I am descended from Carpers too. My immigrant Carper was Nicholas Kerber in Germany and Nicholas Carper (1703 - ~ 1758) in USA in Pennsylvania. Actually he is my ancestor twice. His son Nicholas Carper (1749-1813) had two sons Jacob Carper and Isaac Carper who are both my ancestors. Are any of these yours? I have a mother, father and grandfather for the immigrant Nicholas Carper. [ Margery Abbott Ellis -- ellisb-m@ix.netcom.com ] Note: Here is a listing of some of the references Margery uses... My main references for the oldest Carpers is a book 'Eighteenth Century Emigrants from Pfungstadt, Hessen-Darmstadt to Pennsylvania' by Annette K. Burgert and part of 'Chronicles of Carper Family Descendants of Nicholas Kerper, 1703 Immigrant to Pennsylvania', published August 1998. - VES. ================= One source claims Nicolaus Kerber (Carper) born 14, February 1703 at Unterostern, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany, and father Hans Joerg Kerber, born 6 Dec. 1669 died 6 Dec. 1772 at Unterostern, Hesse-Darmstadt, Parish of Reichelsheim, Germany. Hans' father was Alexander Kerber (Koerber).- Carolyn Carper Farr-Wilson. He and Margaret lived in Cocalico Township, Lancaster County, PA by 1753. County records of him stop in 1758 (the only year he was taxed there). He was one of the first elders of the First Reformed Church of Coventry, East Coventry, Chester County, PA on 19 May 1743 when Rev. Jacob Lischy became pastor and started keeping records. He worked as a blacksmith. In 1740 they were 'of Plymouth in Philadelphia County.' Notes for ANNA MARGARETHA BARBARA MARSTELLER: IGI from LDS says: Married 3 December 1734 New Providence Twp, Augustus Evangelical Luteran Church, Montgomery, Pennsylvania. Marriage Notes for NICOLAUS COERPER and ANNA MARSTELLER: "Skippach" by "Rev." John Caspar Stoever. Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church, in Trappe, Pennsylvania. Emigrated on same ship as Nicholas and was listed as Gretha Marstelen, age 19 (really 23). Her baptism is on tape #1,195,494 at FHC. She called herself Margaret or sometimes Anna Margaret in U.S.A.- Margery Ellis. Children of NICOLAUS COERPER and ANNA MARSTELLER are: 2. i. FRIEDERICH2 CARPER, b. July 08, 1736, PA; d. November 07, 1789, Campbelltown, PA. ii. JOHN ANDREW CARPER, b. April 27, 1746, Pennsylvania. Notes for JOHN ANDREW CARPER: Johann Andreas 3. iii. JOHN JACOB CARPER, b. April 08, 1748, Lancaster, PA; d. March 30, 1829, Prob. Jefferson, TN. 4. iv. NICHOLAS CARPER, b. Abt. 1749, MD; d. February 12, 1813, Fincastle, Botetourt Co., VA. 5. v. MARY MARGARET CARPER, b. December 27, 1751, Lancaster, PA; d. Aft. 1827, Giles, VA.