I have a chance to do just a little more for now. Then on to playing a computer game with my daughter! I have: Jacob Carper b. bet. 1775-1776 d. 1827 m. January 26, 1796 Botetourt Co., VA Sarah Raymer b. 1775 d. 1838 One of the Issue I have is Nicholas. Now, all the issue I have listed under Sarah are born from 1797 to 1823. Not impossible, but a bit surprising, possibly. Someone (sadly I do not remember who!) sent me a file with a lot of family members of this Nicholas b. 1799. They have him marrying a Sarah Nida(y) the y being added by a different researcher, and I have also him marrying a Lydia Smith. Now the troublesome part is that they list Nicholas as having a different father (mother unlisted) -- Alkanah Washington Carper. Now I gather that the data comes from the Peggy Grubb book, Carpers of Roane, etc. Now, I believe it is well-stocked with documentation, but I also believe she messed up on Elizabeth Harvey instead of Elizabeth Shrider, or just Elizabeth, surname unknown... So I am not so certain I buy Alkanah Washington Carper either. Yet, as I said, I am not dismissing it. The same source lists an entire line of Alkanah Carper descendants (the daughter of Nicholas, supposedly named after his mother). Could the so-called Alkanah, the mother of Nicholas, who supposedly lived in the household of Nicholas at one point, have been, not a mother, but an Aunt, etc? Any input to help straighten all this out? Thanks, Vince