Does anyone actually know the date of death of George Washington Ruble? VInce -- *============================================================* *Vincent E. Summers, Chemist E-Mail: vsummers@nrao.edu * *National Radio Astronomy Observatory Phone: (804)-296-0210 * *2015 Ivy Road FAX: (804)-296-0324 * *Charlottesville, VA 22903 http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~vsummers * *============================================================*

Thanks, Steve... I will look this data, which is good in itself, and will provide me some details, and see if I can find a merging... Vince -- *============================================================* *Vincent E. Summers, Chemist E-Mail: vsummers@nrao.edu * *National Radio Astronomy Observatory Phone: (804)-296-0210 * *2015 Ivy Road FAX: (804)-296-0324 * *Charlottesville, VA 22903 http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~vsummers * *============================================================*

Well, folks... My mother-in-law says that there were two Carper lines that were separate. They just didn't cross. While I don't buy that ultimately -- too coincidental -- I do think it is possible they don't join at Craig County. Still ... Here is a family of Carpers I got from microfilm of the 1880 Craig County Census... CARPER, Oscar WM36 Farmer Manda WF32 Wife Keeping House James WM12 Son Laborer Ballard WM10 Son Amma(?) WF7 Daughter Ettie B WF5 Daughter Amanda WF2 Daughter The above are listed just above the household of Samuel Leffel and Liza Ann and Fannie, their daughter. Now, how do I put this... Is there any connection between this line, and, say, Allen M. Carper, or Howard Burns Carper, or Charles Edward Carper, or any of that family line? Vince -- *============================================================* *Vincent E. Summers, Chemist E-Mail: vsummers@nrao.edu * *National Radio Astronomy Observatory Phone: (804)-296-0210 * *2015 Ivy Road FAX: (804)-296-0324 * *Charlottesville, VA 22903 http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~vsummers * *============================================================*

found in Craig marriages 1851 - 1881 page 29 Charles E. Carper 21 Elizabeth Ann McCartney 21 farmer b& reside Craig Botetourt Co, Va. res. Craig Co s/o Allen & Mary d/o Andrew & Mary C. Lic: Oct 31,1870 Mar: Nov. 3, 1870 at residence of brides mother / by Gibson Mauzy this is from Craig County Marriages 1911 through 1938 page 15 Howard Burns Carper 23 Lottie Craig Ferrel 20 painter born and reside Craig Co same s/o Chas. E. & Elizabeth A. d/o Lloyd Preston & Mary Adaline lic: 12/23/1914 married 12/23/1914 at New Castle / by H.A. Blake will look for more - steve

Vince, not really sure if you want this or not, but here is some of the Carper information from the Craig County marriages 1882 - 1910 James P. Carper 23 and Virginia C. Crawford 26 farmer born& reside in Craig same s/o Oscar W. & Amanda R.B. d/o Daniel W. and Sarah C. Lic: 2/17/1901 mar: 2/18/1891 at res. of Harry Simpson by Jonathan C. Lee Ballard W. Carper 22 Gertie S. Britts 21 born and reside Craig same s/o Oscar W. and Amanda R.B. d/o Samuel and Mary C. lic: 5/9/1892 mar: 5/11/1891 at public highway near James Porterfield by L.P.Bradley D.A. Leffel 27 Ammy May Carper 20 Minister b& r Tazewell Co b&r Craig s/o William & Sarah Oscar W. & Amanda R.B. lic: Dec 1,1891 mar: Dec 2,1891 Res. of O.W. Carper by R.R.Houston Frank E. Reynolds 27 Ella M. Carper 20 farmer b&r Craig same s/o John L. & Mary d/o Oscar W. & Amanda R.B. lic: 5/25/1898 mar: 5/26/1898 at Meadow Creek by P.S.E.Sixeas this is from Craig marriages 1851 -1881 page 16 Oscar W. Carper 21y 9 m Amanda R.B. Lefel 19 farmer b& r Craig same s/o James & Sarah d/o John A. & Martha I. lic: 7/11/1866 mar: 7/12/1866 at the residence of Martha Leffel by A.J.Elmore

Thanks for telling me some of the geography! Vince Sandy & Phil Carneiro wrote: > > Hi Vince, > Paint Bank is the most charming little town just on the border of West > Virginia. According to my map of Craig County you take Route 311 out of > New Castle and it is a drive over mountains but it is so beautiful. Paint > Bank size wise on this map looks to be about 3/4's the size of New Castle > but probably on 1/10 the people. If you continue on 311 heading towards > W.Va. you will go to Covington. My gr gr grandparents Adam & Barbary > Smith are buried in the fork of the road between 311 and 512 . > I think someone asked where Level Green Church and cemetery is and the best > I can remember is it is either on Route 629 or Route 42 which both run > southwest toward Giles County out of New Castle. > Hope this answers your question (the top part anyway) if not ask me again. > My mind is in slow gear lately. > Sandy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vince Summers <vsummers@NRAO.EDU> > To: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com <VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 12:46 PM > Subject: Re: [VACRAIG-L] Ruble's in Paint Bank > > >Well this is very interesting! Thanks for posting > >it Sandy! I don't know for sure that it applies > >to my Rubles, but I suspect it will. Can you > >describe to me what intersection or borders sort > >of describe the location of the geographical area > >referred to in the title? > > > >Thanks for your usual endless fountain of info! > > > >Vince > > > > > >==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > >...........................CRAIG MAILING LIST.......................... > >...........If you need assistance, "E" commander@inetone.net........... > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................CRAIG MAILING LIST.......................... > ...........If you need assistance, "E" commander@inetone.net........... > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Hi Curt, Hope everything is going well and the holidays are good for you. Not sure I know the answer to this one but there is a book (which I don't have naturally) called "The Gravel Hill Christian Church", not sure if the book is written by W.G. Johnston or if this person just wrote the first part of it. I only have a few pages from it and it was builted between 1832 and 1835. They were followers of Alexander Campbell, known as "Reformers", and followers of Barton W. Stone, known as "Christian". These two groups formed a union. I'm not even sure if the church is still there, I didn't see it but the time I visited Craig County I wasn't looking for it. On my map it shows "Gravel Hill" between Route 624 and Route 628. Hope this helps. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Curt Milton <miltons@maranatha.net> To: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com <VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 11:06 AM Subject: [VACRAIG-L] Where is Gravel Hill? >I am in the "dog house" with a "net cousin" for not yet posting a query >on where Gravel Hill is located. Can anyone bail me out? > >Good to see all the traffic on the list. Thanks for the info the >historical society and it will be good to get a listing of available >publications they have. > > >==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >..........................CRAIG MAILING LIST........................... >YA'LL SUPPORT ROOTSWEB NOW! GO ON AND VISIT: http://www.rootsweb.com >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >

Hi Vince, Paint Bank is the most charming little town just on the border of West Virginia. According to my map of Craig County you take Route 311 out of New Castle and it is a drive over mountains but it is so beautiful. Paint Bank size wise on this map looks to be about 3/4's the size of New Castle but probably on 1/10 the people. If you continue on 311 heading towards W.Va. you will go to Covington. My gr gr grandparents Adam & Barbary Smith are buried in the fork of the road between 311 and 512 . I think someone asked where Level Green Church and cemetery is and the best I can remember is it is either on Route 629 or Route 42 which both run southwest toward Giles County out of New Castle. Hope this answers your question (the top part anyway) if not ask me again. My mind is in slow gear lately. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Vince Summers <vsummers@NRAO.EDU> To: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com <VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [VACRAIG-L] Ruble's in Paint Bank >Well this is very interesting! Thanks for posting >it Sandy! I don't know for sure that it applies >to my Rubles, but I suspect it will. Can you >describe to me what intersection or borders sort >of describe the location of the geographical area >referred to in the title? > >Thanks for your usual endless fountain of info! > >Vince > > >==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >...........................CRAIG MAILING LIST.......................... >...........If you need assistance, "E" commander@inetone.net........... >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >

Hi. I got some data from a Dean Thomas, and do not know his email address, through ignorantly erasing it. If he is reading this, please contact me. Vince

VATRAPPER@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > > Anyone want to know anything about the Baker's in Paint Bank you need to get > in touch with Helen Humphreys Baker...who is the "Matriarch of Paint Bank". > She knows a great deal of history, as she is a life-long resident of Paint > Bank. > > You should be able to write to her with the simple "General Delivery" address, > and Paint Bank, VA. Unfortunately, I do not have the zip code at this time. > (Zip codes are available on line). > > She's a wonderful lady and has some very interesting stories! Just remember > to send a SASE if you would like information. I would write soon...she spends > time with other family in the Winter. > > Cindy Driscoll > Roanoke, VA Cindy: Helen is married to my great uncle and some of the information she gave me is incorrect. She had me looking for another Baker that was not related, but she insisted it was. So, I've gotten alot of information from her. Thanks anyhow! Connie

Hi, Anyone want to know anything about the Baker's in Paint Bank you need to get in touch with Helen Humphreys Baker...who is the "Matriarch of Paint Bank". She knows a great deal of history, as she is a life-long resident of Paint Bank. You should be able to write to her with the simple "General Delivery" address, and Paint Bank, VA. Unfortunately, I do not have the zip code at this time. (Zip codes are available on line). She's a wonderful lady and has some very interesting stories! Just remember to send a SASE if you would like information. I would write soon...she spends time with other family in the Winter. Cindy Driscoll Roanoke, VA

Well this is very interesting! Thanks for posting it Sandy! I don't know for sure that it applies to my Rubles, but I suspect it will. Can you describe to me what intersection or borders sort of describe the location of the geographical area referred to in the title? Thanks for your usual endless fountain of info! Vince

Dec 1878 3Dec John Surface left Paint Bank 8Dec Dr. Tucker died 12Dec Wm. Surface moved to Paint Bank 29Dec Julian Hellems, Masoura Hellems & Frank Bean baptized Dec 1879; Dec 1880; Dec1881; Dec1882; Dec1883; nothing Dec 1884 Anderson Crawford sings at Paint Bank Dec1885 6Dec Wm. Jarvis died 16Dec Wm. Rutledge died 24Dec Wm. Jarvis (dec.) state 26Dec L.H. Pedige came from Kansas 22Dec Ballard Tingler married 2nd time 22Dec Mosey Looney married 2nd time Dec1886; nothing Dec 1887 no date Harve Humphreys put foot long cross creek at Paint Bank no date John Cales moved to Alleghany, Va. Dec 1888; Dec1889; noghing Dec1890 4Dec Miss Dola Pedigo married 17Dec Big snow 36 inches deep 28Dec Our children got the measles Dec1891; Dec1892; Dec1893 nothing Dec1894 7Dec Mrs. Abraham Armentrout died Dec1895 19Dec James Humphreys moved to John Hellems house Dec 1896 9Dec A.G. Simmons moved to M.S. Rowants - W.VA. Dec1897 nothing Dec1898 17Dec Bill Brizentine died Dec1899 nothing Dec1900 6Dec John Reid & Harve Smith came home 13Dec Old widow Humphreys died 19Dec Bertha Tingler married Dec1901 nothing Dec1902 24Dec Fulton Rose married 17Dec Alfred Tucker died 10Dec Childs got shot 25Dec Mrs. Criss Surface died Dec1903 2Dec Jocal Sublett died 21Dec Rev. Adkins boy died at Paint Bank 14Dec William Crowder died at Gap Mills 23Dec Amey Ross married 24Dec Marshall Rose married 11Dec McDaniel & Jeff Helems had a fight Dec1904 nothing Dec1905 7Dec Laven Taylor moved to Lugar place 8Dec Dick Fridley moved to Runsey Dec1906 2Dec Johnnie Humphrey's child died 22Dec J.O. Humphrey's child died 24Dec Dave McDaniel's wife died Dec1907 nothing Dec1908 23Dec Pet Smith, Elmer Tingler & Frazier Tingler all married today 24Dec Bob Patton married Dec1909 10Dec Taken out the red rock 13Dec Taken first bark from bark house Dec1910 4Dec George N. Linton died 21Dec Mrs. M.S. Rowan died Dec1911 nothing Dec1912 13Dec Steve Smith's child died thats it for Dec.

Was checking for Baker and saw these on Ruble so thought I'd put copy them for anyone who may be interested. 24Jan1891 Wm. Ruble's child died 8Feb1891 Old Jacob Ruble died 29Mar1892 A.P. Ruble moved to Henry Tinglers 12Oct1892 A.P. Ruble moved to John Cales 6Oct1894 James Ruble died on Johns Creek 8Oct1897 A.P. Ruble moved to John Hellems house 28Feb1898 A.P. Ruble moved to Botetourt 10Sept1902 Bill Ruble died 10Oct1902 Bill Rubles sale

Is this the same place known by the local NCHS kids in the 50's as "Tater Chip Hill" (The place that everyone went to 'park' just above newcastle on Rt42)? > -----Original Message----- > From: Curt Milton [mailto:miltons@maranatha.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 10:02 AM > To: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VACRAIG-L] Where is Gravel Hill? > > > I am in the "dog house" with a "net cousin" for not yet > posting a query > on where Gravel Hill is located. Can anyone bail me out? > > Good to see all the traffic on the list. Thanks for the info the > historical society and it will be good to get a listing of available > publications they have. > > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > %%%%%%%%% > ..........................CRAIG MAILING > LIST........................... > YA'LL SUPPORT ROOTSWEB NOW! GO ON AND VISIT: http://www.rootsweb.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

I am in the "dog house" with a "net cousin" for not yet posting a query on where Gravel Hill is located. Can anyone bail me out? Good to see all the traffic on the list. Thanks for the info the historical society and it will be good to get a listing of available publications they have.

Randal looked up Baker and this is what I found: 31Aug1879 George Bakers wife baptized 4Feb1880 George Baker moved to the Nogen 11Mar1880 Jeb Baker moved to his place 17May1886 Scott Baker cut the big oak at the school house 12Jan1887 Charlie Baker died in Tenn. 4Oct1891 George Baker & Mrs. Puckett married 12Oct1891 Chap Baker here from Ohio 15Feb1893 Lilly Baker died 24Nov1895 Scott Baker killed Wright pet deer 16Sept1896 Ed Baker & Will Kirby started to Ind. 14Oct1896 W.S. Baker left for Ind. 27Oct1896 Harve Smith moved to Scott Baker's place 7Aug1898 Joe Baker near Sweet Springs died 11Apr1899 James Paxton moved to Scott Bakers 20Jan1901 J.O. Humphreys moved to Bakers Place 4July1902 Bill Mayhand & Charlie Baker killed themselves 12Feb1903 Oscar Reynolds moved to Baker place 13Sept1903 Furd Baker died 13Oct1905 The widow W.W. Baker died 9Nov1911 Susan Baker went to Roanoke 16Sept1912 I was up at Henry Bakers 28Oct1912 Henry Baker brought his wife to Paint Bank

Hi, all... I saw a post the other day. FRANCISCO and how the name likely was connected to Hughs, Hughes, Huse, or some other spelling. Although this is connected through Lloyd Preston Ferrel for me, it is only through a second wife, or a sort of Half-Family, and is not a primary thread. Nonetheless, I am interested in as many details as possible for that first FRANCISCO connection. Thanks for any help! Vince

I have some data on the Tingler family which married into the Humphreys family of Paint Bank. Without going back into my paper records and checking, I believe the Tingler family I have data on is that of Henry. It is not in my line----that of my step-father----but he did have a family tree chart done by one of the Tingler daughters and I have the data from that, plus some from his famiy Bible. If you would like to have a copy of what I have, I will send it after the holidays! Charlene Blassingham

Sandy & Phil Carneiro wrote: > > Its "Events At Paint Bank, Virginia" Record kept by Wm. H. Hellems and its > dates range from 4April1878 to 1912 with a few from 1913 and then one from > 1927 when his wife Hester Ann died. > Its a very simple diary mentioning things like "Steve Smith's child died" > or "Bob Tingler married". Let me know your mothers & her parents name and > I will check it for you. > Sandy > > -----Original Message----- > From: henricsf@casmail.muohio.edu <henricsf@casmail.muohio.edu> > To: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com <VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 10:39 AM > Subject: [VACRAIG-L] Paint Bank > > >I'm interested in "Events at Paint Bank". My mother was born there. > >Could you tell me a little more about it? > > > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ..........................CRAIG MAILING LIST........................... > .........Support RootsWeb Now! Visit: http://www.rootsweb.com......... > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Sandy: Any Baker's listed in the book? I'm looking for a William W. Baker. Thanks! Connie