Here's another line that I have yet to see any positive leads on. It concerns the ancestors and family of Elizabeth "Wimond", wife of John Hypes, Sr. of early Botetourt Co. Elizabeth was "apparently" a resident of then-Botetourt (present-day Craig Co.) at the time of her marriage, but the only men having a surname that remotely resembled "Wimond" (obviously a misspelling of her German surname) during this era concerned a Jacob and Joseph "Wymand". And the only record I've found to date on them concerns a land purchase by one or both of them in then-Botetourt Co., VA in 1782. No other Botetourt Co., or VA land entry for that matter, appears to exist for them after that. What became of them? Where did they go to (if anywhere)? Although my guess is that one of these two men is the father of Elizabeth, it still leaves me at a "dead end" as to where they came from, who their family members where, where they moved to, etc. as they do not show up in the 1810 census for Botetourt Co. either. Would anyone have any further information about either of these men? I've seen some men in southeastern PA of similar age and different surname spellings that may yield a clue but no other info has been found to date that would possibly tie them in (ancestrally) with these SE Pa settlers. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Elizabeth did have sons by the names of Jacob and Joseph, so it would at least appear that we're on the right track, so...And since many of the German families who settled in SW VA came from SE PA, it's a good bet that the WImonds/Wymands/Weimans/Weyermans, etc. came from that area as well. Any research-related leads would be appreciated. Thanks, Bob

I am seeking ancestral and family information concerning a Mary Ann(a) Davis, who was likely born in either Botetourt (present-day Craig Co.) or Giles Co., VA c 1810. She married an Abraham Hypes of then-Botetourt (present-day Craig) Co., VA c 1837. Abraham, as a point of note, was born c 1811, the son of John Hypes, Sr. and Elizabeth "Wimond"/Wymand/ Weiman/Wyerman (whatever). ANY information, leads or suggestions concerning the ancestors or family of Mary Ann(a) Davis Hypes would be very much appreciated as I have yet to see any information on her family in ANY forum. Surely someone has at least "some" information on her ancestral background as her family just didn't "drop out of the sky". Thanks very much, Bob

Thanks. How do I contact her? Also, do you have a copy of the will of Nicholas, whether scanned, or typed, that you can share with me? Vince http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/u/m/Vincent-E-Summers/index.html "R.J.NIDA" wrote: > > Vince, > The will of Nicholas Carper names only his wife, Elizabeth, and some > children, no maiden name for her. Madge Looney Crane has done some research > on the Carper family and may know more about his marriage than an approx. > date of 1770. > Jack Nida > Jonesboro, GA > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/n/i/d/R-J-Nida-GA/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Vincent E. Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu> > To: <VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 9:26 AM > Subject: [VACRAIG] "The Carpers of Roane County" > > > Is anyone aware if there is an error in the above book by Peggy Grubbs? > > Specifically in the "marriage" of Elizabeth Harvey and Nicholas Carper > > of 1749? > > > > Many sites seem to indicate that he married and Elizabeth Shrider. Now, > > of course, the two could be the same person. Or not. Does anyone have > > solid evidence one way or the other? I incline toward Shrider, but do > > not think Peggy Grubbs would have said Harvey without any reason. > > Some might, but she lists much source generally, and I am reluctant to > > dismiss her... > > > > Vince > > > > (See her info at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~hcpd/norman/CARPER.1 ) > > > > > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > > Support RootsWeb! Visit: > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Visit: > http://www.rootsweb.com

--part1_1c.697ab1.25b8f5eb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_1c.697ab1.25b8f5eb_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <VACRAIG-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yg01.mx.aol.com (rly-yg01.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.1]) by air-yg04.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:02:17 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-yg01.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:02:06 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27361; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:01:12 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:01:12 -0800 (PST) From: Jimvinik@aol.com Message-ID: <52.795e2d.25b8ed9a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:00:42 EST Old-To: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 228 Subject: [VACRAIG] (no subject) Resent-Message-ID: <vt6pzC.A.PrG.3O5h4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/544 X-Loop: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: VACRAIG-L-request@rootsweb.com Dear Vince, I have been trying to find information on Amanda (or Manda) Elmore. Also on India (Inda) Elmore These girls were listed in the Craig County Census !850, but apparently vanished off the face of the earth. I beleive them to be my Grandfathers sisters, who was Giles Monroe Elmore born Aug 5.1869, Is there anybody out there that has any information? Anything would be appreciated. Vi Elmore McCauley ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== CHECK YOUR MAILBOXES OFTEN Computers automatically delete addresses with the third Craig County List Bounce --part1_1c.697ab1.25b8f5eb_boundary--

Dear Vince, I have been trying to find information on Amanda (or Manda) Elmore. Also on India (Inda) Elmore These girls were listed in the Craig County Census !850, but apparently vanished off the face of the earth. I beleive them to be my Grandfathers sisters, who was Giles Monroe Elmore born Aug 5.1869, Is there anybody out there that has any information? Anything would be appreciated. Vi Elmore McCauley

Is anyone aware if there is an error in the above book by Peggy Grubbs? Specifically in the "marriage" of Elizabeth Harvey and Nicholas Carper of 1749? Many sites seem to indicate that he married and Elizabeth Shrider. Now, of course, the two could be the same person. Or not. Does anyone have solid evidence one way or the other? I incline toward Shrider, but do not think Peggy Grubbs would have said Harvey without any reason. Some might, but she lists much source generally, and I am reluctant to dismiss her... Vince (See her info at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~hcpd/norman/CARPER.1 )

Subject: [VAGEN-L] SK Census CD's SK Publications has prepared a VA page for ordering census cd's, which results in getting the images online for free access to all. http://www.skpub.com/genie/censuscd/va.html The page offers a way for groups to order/initiate the cd processing so the cost per person can be reduced. If there's enough interest, our list members might benefit together. PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH OUR ENTIRE MAILING LIST ! glenn

I think that this may be John "Temper" Caldwell that married Polly Hively. I have listed 9 children for them. Nothing listed for her parents as of yet. In my records also a John Caldwell married a Mary Hively 10-22-1804 Botetourt Co. Va. I did not see the first part of this thread so I hope I am not out of line. Fred W. Davis fwdavis@roanoke.infi.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivian Heikkinen" <vivianheik@ncweb.com> To: <VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [VACRAIG] Caldwell > Steve, > I have been researching the Jacob Hively family that lived in what > is now > Craig County in the early 1800's. One of the daughters, Mary, married a > Caldwell. Since Polly is a nickname for Mary this is probably the same > person. Do you have any more information concerning this John Caldwell > and > Polly Hively that will confirm this for me? > > Vivian > vivianheik@ncweb.com > > SA1949@aol.com wrote: > > > Vince > > I tried to send you what I had on the Caldwell line but it was send back as > > being to big. So I am going to try it this way. > > > > John Pendleton Caldwell - 1846 > > parents: Andrew Caldwell - 1803 > > Barbara Trout > > parents: John Temper Caldwell, Jr. > > Polly Hively > > parents; John Temper Caldwell died 1820 > > Susanna Preston > > > > John Paris Caldwell - 1879 > > parents: George Washington Caldwell > > Eliza Jane Ruble > > parents; Lloyd Caldwell > > Susanna Martha Hendrickson > > parents: William F. Caldwell > > Frances Anderson > > parents: John Temper Caldwell - died 1820 > > Susanna Preston > > > > hope this helps > > Steve > > > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > ...........................CRAIG MAILING LIST.......................... > > ...........If you need assistance, "E" commander@inetone.net........... > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > VACraig-L-request@rootsweb.com UNSUBSCRIBE [subject line] > VACraig-D-request@rootsweb.com UNSUBSCRIBE [subject line] > Attached signature files will cause messagtes to fail. OK! >

Steve: I would be interested in this HIVELY - CALDWELL connection, also. Thanks, Richie in Nitro, West Virginia ============================== -----Original Message----- From: Vivian Heikkinen [mailto:vivianheik@ncweb.com] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 9:31 AM To: VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VACRAIG] Caldwell Steve, I have been researching the Jacob Hively family that lived in what is now Craig County in the early 1800's. One of the daughters, Mary, married a Caldwell. Since Polly is a nickname for Mary this is probably the same person. Do you have any more information concerning this John Caldwell and Polly Hively that will confirm this for me? Vivian vivianheik@ncweb.com SA1949@aol.com wrote: > Vince > I tried to send you what I had on the Caldwell line but it was send back as > being to big. So I am going to try it this way. > > John Pendleton Caldwell - 1846 > parents: Andrew Caldwell - 1803 > Barbara Trout > parents: John Temper Caldwell, Jr. > Polly Hively > parents; John Temper Caldwell died 1820 > Susanna Preston > > John Paris Caldwell - 1879 > parents: George Washington Caldwell > Eliza Jane Ruble > parents; Lloyd Caldwell > Susanna Martha Hendrickson > parents: William F. Caldwell > Frances Anderson > parents: John Temper Caldwell - died 1820 > Susanna Preston > > hope this helps > Steve > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................CRAIG MAILING LIST.......................... > ...........If you need assistance, "E" commander@inetone.net........... > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== VACraig-L-request@rootsweb.com UNSUBSCRIBE [subject line] VACraig-D-request@rootsweb.com UNSUBSCRIBE [subject line] Attached signature files will cause messagtes to fail. OK!

Steve, I have been researching the Jacob Hively family that lived in what is now Craig County in the early 1800's. One of the daughters, Mary, married a Caldwell. Since Polly is a nickname for Mary this is probably the same person. Do you have any more information concerning this John Caldwell and Polly Hively that will confirm this for me? Vivian vivianheik@ncweb.com SA1949@aol.com wrote: > Vince > I tried to send you what I had on the Caldwell line but it was send back as > being to big. So I am going to try it this way. > > John Pendleton Caldwell - 1846 > parents: Andrew Caldwell - 1803 > Barbara Trout > parents: John Temper Caldwell, Jr. > Polly Hively > parents; John Temper Caldwell died 1820 > Susanna Preston > > John Paris Caldwell - 1879 > parents: George Washington Caldwell > Eliza Jane Ruble > parents; Lloyd Caldwell > Susanna Martha Hendrickson > parents: William F. Caldwell > Frances Anderson > parents: John Temper Caldwell - died 1820 > Susanna Preston > > hope this helps > Steve > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................CRAIG MAILING LIST.......................... > ...........If you need assistance, "E" commander@inetone.net........... > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Richie you should have gotten what I have on this connection. steve

Working on family in Paint Bank! Would anyone know where John Helems lived 1890's? Also what happen to Grant Helems. He was married to Mary Humphreys? Grant and Mary were married 9-3-1893. Grants parents were Joseph & Joannah Helems. Thanks, Sandy

Does anyone have info on the FRY family. My grandmother was a Fry from Va. Thank you, Alan M. Taylor

Rena, I am looking for death data on John Nida, Jr. and his wife, Ann Foster Nida, living in Roanoke Co. with children George, Eva, Sally, Mary, John, Edna and Elizabeth, per Roanoke Co. census of 1850. No records on any of these children or the parents after that census. They were married in Botetourt Co., 02 Mar 1833. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jack Nida Jonesboro, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: Rena Worthen <doreatr@rbnet.com> To: <VACRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 3:37 PM Subject: [VACRAIG] Cemeteries > Botetourt is done in 2 sections, Book 1 is 58 pages of names, > Book 2 is 100 pages of names. the Cemeteries covered are listed at my > webpage. I have made every effort to read the entire Cemetery, I have also > tried to identify unmarked Gravesites. by checking obits in the Roanoke > times, and asking at the funeral home. > Both are full name indexed which makes for extra pages. I have used # 12 > Times Roman font, for easier reading. It is spiral Bound soft cover. > Some of the births go back to the late 1700's > This publication is $ 60.00 for the set. > > > Montgomery County Vol 1 is 88 pages $ 40.00 details same as above. > > Sunset Cemetery Christiansburg Va 166 pages, over 50 pages of index , full > name > > High Lawn Memorial Park Oak Hill Wv. $ 35.00 This Cemetery is in Alpha > Order. It gives Grave location, and date of Interment and age. it is > complete to 11-10-1998. > > If you plan to be in Botetourt County, Call me and i'l be happy to meet with > you, so you can take a look. or perhaps we can meet . My Phone is > 540-473-3805 > My Webpage is > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798 > > Check or Money orders should be sent to Margarette Tynan P O B 1002 > Buchanan, VA 24066 > > I have Obits for 1998 & 1999 from the Roanoke times. Most days. and some > from other years. > > I also have information from several hundred Funeral Memorial Cards from > deaths in Montgomery, Roanoke, Floyd and Botetourt County. > > I have > Birth Records for Craig County VA, > 1850 Census for Botetourt County Va > 1880 & 1910 Census for Patrick County Va > > > > Researching ThomasJEWELL,William HATCHER, AndrewHOWARD, AsaHALL, Sarah > FARLEY, James GRAHAM, George BOOTHE, any HICKLIN, William GREEN,Thurman > BAXTER,John "the settler" BISHOP, Ezra COLLINS, William CUNNINGHAM, Clarence > SMITH, Pierce BOYER, Christopher TYNAN, Georg (Dresher)THRASHER , Sarah > COX, anyOBENCHAIN,any AKERS, Emra ALTIZER,Henry VANOVER > doreatr@rbnet.com rena@genealogy.org > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798/index.html > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~scotnroa/Barb/floyd.html > > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................CRAIG MAILING LIST.......................... > If I receive multiple error messages, or a message that your mailbox is > full I will UNSUB your address. It is your duty to "UNSUB" if your own > mailbox is going to be full. If you're going to be unavailable UNSUB OK > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >

Rena, Are you saying you have a book on birth from Craig. Sandy

Botetourt is done in 2 sections, Book 1 is 58 pages of names, Book 2 is 100 pages of names. the Cemeteries covered are listed at my webpage. I have made every effort to read the entire Cemetery, I have also tried to identify unmarked Gravesites. by checking obits in the Roanoke times, and asking at the funeral home. Both are full name indexed which makes for extra pages. I have used # 12 Times Roman font, for easier reading. It is spiral Bound soft cover. Some of the births go back to the late 1700's This publication is $ 60.00 for the set. Montgomery County Vol 1 is 88 pages $ 40.00 details same as above. Sunset Cemetery Christiansburg Va 166 pages, over 50 pages of index , full name High Lawn Memorial Park Oak Hill Wv. $ 35.00 This Cemetery is in Alpha Order. It gives Grave location, and date of Interment and age. it is complete to 11-10-1998. If you plan to be in Botetourt County, Call me and i'l be happy to meet with you, so you can take a look. or perhaps we can meet . My Phone is 540-473-3805 My Webpage is http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798 Check or Money orders should be sent to Margarette Tynan P O B 1002 Buchanan, VA 24066 I have Obits for 1998 & 1999 from the Roanoke times. Most days. and some from other years. I also have information from several hundred Funeral Memorial Cards from deaths in Montgomery, Roanoke, Floyd and Botetourt County. I have Birth Records for Craig County VA, 1850 Census for Botetourt County Va 1880 & 1910 Census for Patrick County Va Researching ThomasJEWELL,William HATCHER, AndrewHOWARD, AsaHALL, Sarah FARLEY, James GRAHAM, George BOOTHE, any HICKLIN, William GREEN,Thurman BAXTER,John "the settler" BISHOP, Ezra COLLINS, William CUNNINGHAM, Clarence SMITH, Pierce BOYER, Christopher TYNAN, Georg (Dresher)THRASHER , Sarah COX, anyOBENCHAIN,any AKERS, Emra ALTIZER,Henry VANOVER doreatr@rbnet.com rena@genealogy.org http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric http://members.bellatlantic.net/~scotnroa/Barb/floyd.html

Hello All, There was a Farmers Reliance organized in Paint Bank, Va. May 1890. What was this organization? Thanks Sandy

Steve: The Bowens in question lived in that part of Botetourt County that was often serviced by the Montgomery County Courthouse for marriages, wills, etc. Today, the old Bowen homestead (pile of chimney stones) & cemetery are on the Joyce farm on Rt. 621 in Craig County, about one mile from the Craig-Montgomery border. Semper Fi -Bob SA1949@aol.com wrote: > > Bob > I can not answer your question as to weather James and William Caldwell were > related or not, but probably were somehow. > > I have not done much research in Montgomery county mostly in Craig or > Botetourt and have > Susan J. Caldwell, born 26 Oct 1845 in Giles (now Craig) County > died 14 May 1911 = buried in Webb > Cemetery - Craig > married on 21 Aug 1866 at the residence of Mahala Caldwell by Phillip B. > Williams to. > William T. Webb - born 20 Oct 1839 in Giles ( now Craig) County > died 27 Sep 1909 = Webb Cemetery > their daughter > Etta Missouri Webb - 9 mar 1879 - 7 Aug 1940 - Webb Cemetery > married on 7 Oct 1888 to > George Edmison Caldwell - 23 May 1864 - 21 apr 1926 - Webb Cemetery > and they had 10 children. > Steve > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................CRAIG MAILING LIST.......................... > To unsubscribe from the VA CRAIG List, send a message to the following: > VACRAIG-L-request@rootsweb.com with ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the > body of the message. Your request will be processed automatically. So > please be sure that this is the ONLY thing that appears in the body. If > you're sending a signature file along it will cause it to fail. THANKS > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -- Protect our Flag

Does anyone have a connection to this Caldwell in Montgomery county. Rena Descendants of Henderson H Caldwell 1 Henderson H Caldwell . +Lillian Mae Caldwell .. 2 Samuel Richard Caldwell b: 1929 (Colebank Hollow Montgomery Co Va) ..... +Annie Francis Howard b: 1937 m: June 27, 1953 in Montgomery Co. Va Father: Charlie Rouster Howard Mother: Nellie Catherine Jewell

Yup, that does it! Thanks. Funny about that bounce. As I wrote you, I can take at least 7 mB as in the past... Unless the server has stopped accepting that high a size. That worries me just a bit. I transmit alot of large files. Will have to put them on the website and allow downloads... Vince SA1949@aol.com wrote: > > Vince > I tried to send you what I had on the Caldwell line but it was send back as > being to big. So I am going to try it this way. > > John Pendleton Caldwell - 1846 > parents: Andrew Caldwell - 1803 > Barbara Trout > parents: John Temper Caldwell, Jr. > Polly Hively > parents; John Temper Caldwell died 1820 > Susanna Preston > > John Paris Caldwell - 1879 > parents: George Washington Caldwell > Eliza Jane Ruble > parents; Lloyd Caldwell > Susanna Martha Hendrickson > parents: William F. Caldwell > Frances Anderson > parents: John Temper Caldwell - died 1820 > Susanna Preston > > hope this helps > Steve > > ==== VACRAIG Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > ...........................CRAIG MAILING LIST.......................... > ...........If you need assistance, "E" commander@inetone.net........... > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%