Here is the chat record for Aug. 25. No date has been set for the next one.We won't be using AbbottChat anymore since they're now charging. We're exploring other possibilities. Peg Linda: Did everyone read my post about the confederate gravemarkers? Joann: Peg, we were chatting about the courthouse in Bowling Green. Have you ever been there? Anne: Linda - the gov't will provide a marker for any soldier for any war - ARW, Mexican, etc etc Joann: I'm getting Bill's comments. peg_price: Joann, yes. I was there this past April. Joann: The Department of Veterans Affairs does that, but only if the grave has no other marker. Joann: Peg, is it worth the trip? I've heard they don't have a lot of old records. Linda: I have everyone now. Yes, my great grandfather had a little footstone that we put there to replace that metal marker the army put there. Linda: My friend Ollie C. went out last weekend and she and her husband put the stone up. I'm really excited about it and can't wait to see it. peg_price: Yes, the courthouse is absolutely worth the trip. They've got enough old books and records to keep you busy a long time. I would highly, highly recommend a trip there. Joann: Linda, speaking of Ollie, I've never heard from her. Did you get a chance to talk to her about my letter? Linda: I have found out a ton of stuff from that courthouse and everything is completely accessible. Anne: OH! to live in Caroline Co!! Joann: Does anyone know what the hours are at the courthouse? Bill: Does anybody know anything about "Hazelwood" near Port Royal? Linda: Joann, yes I did. She is very, very busy but she promised she would get back. Now that school is starting again, her email is up and running again. Linda: oclarke@caroline.k12.va.us Linda: Peg: Is Hazelwood mentioned in that book I sent you? (booklet) Joann: Thanks, Linda. I'll wait a while longer to give her a chance to get settled, then I'll send her an e-mail. Linda: I believe the hours are 9-5. peg_price: You read my mind, Linda! I'm checking through right this very minute. Anne: Anyone here work on JONES in Caroline? Joann: Barbara Jones Self does, but she's not signed on tonight. Linda: I just received a Samuel file, some Watts, some Andersons, Linda: Ollie Clarke is a Jones and has done a lot of work on the Jones. peg_price: Bill, I just looked through a book of old homes in Caroline and didn't see it. peg_price: Bill, have you checked in the Wingfield book? Joann: I think Barbara has been in touch with Ollie, but I'm not sure. Edith_Fensom: what book is that, Peg? Linda: Anne, send me your snail mail after the chat and I'll send it to Ollie - a phone number too, if you'd like. She would mail you somethiing, I'm sure. Bill: I was just wondering. I don't know if it still exists or is privately owned now, Anne: Linda - I have corresponded with Ollie but not for awhile Linda: I sure wish she could get into this chat room. The researchers in the Historical Society and the savants of the county and we could really pick their brains. Joann: Is Ollie subscribed to the Caroline Co. mail list? Bill: Peg, I not familiar with the Wingfield book. Could you send me sometinhg on it? Linda: She only gets email through her school. I don't know if she is permitted to subscribe. peg_price: I can check the List for her later on. Linda: Bill - you Linda: MUST get the Wingfield book and Rev. Fall's book. By the way, I haven't heard any more about that lately. peg_price: Bill, I'm looking in it right now. Anne: I bot Rev. Falls book - interesting but not much in it Linda: I have a 1952 picture of the graduating class of CHS. Anyone want the surnames? Linda: I guess I got lucky with the families he mentioned or studied. I have marked that book up something awful. Herb Collins' next book is beisng offered for prepublication price now, isn't that right? Bill: The only Fall book I'm familiar with is "Historical Record of Bowling Green Virginia". peg_price: Sorry , Bill. My quick run through doesn't give any info on Hazelwood Linda: Hey, Bill - that's one that i don't have. The one I'm talking about is People, Post Office and Communities of Caroline Co. It's a must (I think) Linda: I know I have heard of Hazelwood. you're sure you're not thinking of Elmwood? peg_price: Is "Historical Record of Bowling Green" available for purchase? peg_price: Hazelwood was in the Turner and Taylor families. Joann: I took at look at the Bowling Green book at the Library of Congress. A lot of history, but not a lot of names. Bill: "Hazelwood was the home of John Taylor of Caroline. He supposed to be buried there. Bill: I don't have "Historical Record of Bowling Green" either, but it's available at the library in Fredericksburg. peg_price: Bill, I take that back. There's quite a spread on John Taylor and I just ran into Hazelwood. It says after he retired from the legislature, he bought a large estate called Hazelwood on the Rappahannock River and devoted all of his time and energies to agriculture. peg_price: That he died at his planatation in 1824 Bill: Peg, that's the same info I have. Just wonder if it's still there? Linda: What book were you looking in, Peg? Wingfield's? peg_price: Wingfield Bill: Peg, check the following web site for a short bio oh Jonh Taylor: http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=T000086 Linda: Bill, In People, Post Offices, and Communiities, Rev. Fall mentions it several times. Linda: I'm looking peg_price: Will do. Joann: I have to cut out a little early tonight. Peg, will you be posting a transcript of the chat on the list? I want to be able to read the part that I will miss. peg_price: Yes, I'll save it and send it out again. Linda: "The elder Pendletons at their deaths in 1877 & 1892 respictively were buried near the grave of John Taylor of Caroline at Hazelwood farm west of town, the farm owned & occupied by Mr. and Mrs. Lynn Garrett. Linda: It seems that Harry Beverley also owned Hazelwood at one time. Bill: Linda, does your info say anything about Taylor's children being buried at Hazelwood? peg_price: I wonder if the Historical Society has an updated list on the condition/existence of all of Caroline's famous old homes? Linda: I could ask. I know that that was one of the topics of discussion at the last meeting that I wasn't able to attend. Bill, you should be able to go. They meet at the courthouse, sometimes the library and sometimes, Mr. Collins house. . Linda: Peg, have we added any new surnames to that list you made up? peg_price: yes, 2 new people have added their names and was waiting til the end of the month but I can go ahead and send it out now. Anne: Everytime I got ready to send mine in - Peg had published a new list - are you still compiling or is the list finished? Bill: My email is: wgt23@crosslink.net for whoever wanted the court house look up. Linda: Does anyone know how I can request obituaries that have been archived somewhere in one of the libraries in Richmond, maybe? Linda: Thanks Bill. Linda: In Baltimore, Enoch Pratt Library will search their archives and xerox obituaries for you if you can give the date of death (or pretty good approximation). peg_price: The names have continued to come in. So what I thought of doing was to send out the most recently revised list monthly. That way newcomers could maybe add their names, too. so it's kind of an ongoing project. Linda: If we can't request a death certificate, we could at least read the death notice in the paper. Anyone ever try that for a Richmond paper. Linda: Bill, what surname are you searching? Taylors? peg_price: Don'y forget that we can add to Caroline's obituaries by posting them with GenConnect. Bill: The names I'm looking for in Caroline County are: GLASSELL BEALE PENN TAYLOR WICKHAM Linda: Yes, but I would like to access death notices in Richmond. I think that a good number of the people I'm looking for moved to Richmond because life was not promising or at least too hard for them on their small farms. peg_price: Anne, are you going to send in some surnames? Linda: Bill: Anne: YUP! Peg - do I send them to you? Linda: I have just been corresponding with a gentleman named after Doctor Glassell. peg_price: You could list them right here if you'd like and I'll copy them and add them to the list on my desktop. Anne: Connor/Conner Anne: Marshall, Durrett, Woolfolk, Jones, Minor, Thomas, Redd, Williams, Dunkin, peg_price: 'I can't type tonight. Richard's website is off line now? Linda: I just got finished corresponding with a gentleman named after Dr. Glassel - he is a Whittaker and Martin Anne: You mean Richard Lunht? He was killed in a car wreck Bill: Linda, one of my ancestors was a Dr. Robert Glassell of Bowling Green. But he died abt. 1914. peg_price: I'd received a note saying he'd been killed. That was so tragic. Anne: Yes, he was a much decorated police officer peg_price: someone wrote to say they couldn't open his site anymore so it must have been removed. He had a lot of wonderful information there. Linda: This gentleman is Glassell Parker. He said he was named after the Doctor. I just saw something in Fall's book about Dr. glassell Anne: Peg- it was 99% my database if anyone wants anything peg_price: Anne, I got your surnames copied. Thanks. peg_price: Oh, I didn't know it was mostly yours. I knew you'd done alot of work. Well, are you going to keep it online? Linda: I just wonder if my "Lassel Farmer" is a mis-transcription of the name Glassel? Anne: I don't have any "internet space" - I did donate to roots web so I have something there but not the foggiest notion of how to operate it Linda: Anne and Peg: who are we talking about? Anne: a REDD & allied families database Linda: Which surnames are we talking about - the ones above? peg_price: That's a problem. Maybe Freddie, our VA coordinator, could help you. He's a great guy and very smart about such things. Linda: Bill: do you the gentleman I mentioned? Linda: who is Richard Linda: Anne: What website are you talking about? peg_price: Anne, did you ever get into the Broadduses? Anne: The Anne Redd -Thomas Broaddus family - I have a lot on. Bill: I'm not familiar Glassell Parker, there are some Parker's in my line. peg_price: Did you ever talk with Alice Broaddus of Houston? Anne: No Peg - what is her e-mail? Linda: How about Martins or Whittakers? Linda: Anne: website? Anne: Linda it is gone now - Bill: Martins or Whittakers don't ring a bell. Could you give me more info? Anne: My genealogy budget is a bit stretched so I haven't ordered the Broaddus book YET - is is a good genealogy ? peg_price: It's excellent. peg_price: I continue to get more family additions, changes, etc. so I just add the pages to the book. Linda: I'd have to send the outline. I'm not directly descended but have lots of marrigaes to Whittakers and some Martins. Dalton Parker is the one who wrote the genealogy of the Lumpkins. Linda: I just emailed an obituary for a Broadus who died in Baltimore. there was a write up with picture in the Baltimore sun. Linda: Peg: Anne: Anyone working on WOOLFOLKS - that is my interest at this time? Linda: Ollie just sent me more data and it included some info on the Howertons. Interested? peg_price: no. I don't have them. peg_price: Howertons are mine! Bill: Linda, could you send me some info on the Historical Society in Caroline? peg_price: Jane Howerton married my gggrandfather, George Washington Trice. Preacher of Liberty Church. Linda: Bill: Linda: I just joined: Anne: Linda - do they publish a newletter or something that would be of interested to someone far away? Linda: P.O. Box 324, Bowling Green, Va. 22427 Linda: I believe Miss Elizabeth Pitts is a member and she is another octogenarian with a lot of info. I don't thin;k they put out a newletter although i have copies of old ones that were very good. Linda: I'm still trying to get people to get relatives to draw a "memory map". Mr. Glassell Parker sent me one of some of his neighborhood in Delos. He labeled his farma and some surrounding farms and landmarks. Very interesting. Linda: Anne: I don't know if they do a quarterly paper or something similar. I haven't received anything yet except a membership cared. peg_price: Linda, could you pass on the Howerton stuff Ollie sent you??? Linda: Ok, Peg. It wasn't a whole lot, but it looked interesting. Did I send you stuff from Miles Johnson? peg_price: yes, you did. Miles and I have written also. Bill: Linda, ask Mr. Parker if he knows any Parkers from Westmoreland and King George Cos. My grandfather's 2nd wife was a Hortense Parker. Linda: bill, I'm looking at Rev. Fall's book and there are quite a few references to Glassells: Dr. Andrew, Dr. Robert G., Dr. Robert T., Miss Louisa, Miss Louise, John, Joanna, Fannie, Frances, Jane Linda: Eugenia, Fannie and Ada. Linda: Bill" I'm sure he does. Upper King and Queen is where his Lumpkins are from. Bill: I'd like to see it. OK witth me.