Posted on: Caroline Co. Va Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Caroline?read=1289 Surname: PENN, FLEMING ------------------------- I do not consider myself an expert on Fleming. I do consider myself an expert on the Penns of VA in the 17th and 18th century. There is conclusive and indisputable primary source proof (bible record) that John Penn, the Signer of the Declaration of Independence, was the son of Moses Penn and Catherine Pendleton, born May 6, 1740. What primary source proof is there Ann FLEMING married George Penn. Other recent people's allegations are not primary sources. In the late 1970s there was a Penn publication called "Penn Pals" which I subscribed to and this if the first place where I read that Ann's last name was "Fleming?" This was a matter of controversy then. Gabriel Penn was born July 17, 1741. Middle names were not in common usage then. What primary source proof is there that his middle name was Fleming?