Posted on: Caroline Co. Va Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Caroline?read=1284 Surname: Penn, Payne ------------------------- Actually, I have no evidence that the Penn and the Payne families were close at all. I have searched the Payne family to try and find some connection to Penn (perhaps even a Clerk's error in misspelling) and I have not been able to find even one instance of confusion. Also, I cannot recall finding any significant association between the two families. Except for the unproven allegation that George Penn married Ann Fleming (which I dispute), I can find no other association between the Penn family and the Fleming family.