----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] May Roll Call >I am seeking information about the Turner family of Carolina County, >Virginia > > I know that > Richard arrived in Virginia from England with wife and young son John b > 1690 (the date of birth is est) d 1742 sometime before 1704, when his name > first appeared in the tax records of King and Queen County. > > This does not state that Richard did have other children but on the > reseacher was only look for John Turner > > > what I do know that M. Jeanette O'Boyle, 449 Pump House Road, > Murphysboro, Illinois 62966- 9246 Stated: > > "The earliest that I have record of our Turner family is in the Caroline > County, Virginia, order book which lists the Turners from the beginning of > the county being cut out of King and Queen County, Virginia. In the late > 1730's Richard Turner gives land to his four sons, Richard, James, John, > and Lewis. Later in the early 1740's Richard dies and lists Richard as the > heir and James as the executor. At this time Virginia was under the > English rule in which only the eldest son inherited and the next oldest > was the executor. Before the will could be executed apparently the son > Richard had died with no heirs and as the next oldest James inherited with > Lewis becoming the executor with mother Elizabeth and sister Margaret > assisting. This means the John was not living at this time since he was > the next oldest and would have been the next executor. There is no way > that the sister Margaret would have been made an executor if another son > was living. My files are packed away in a box but I think the date of old > Richard Turner's will was 1744. There is a Richard Turner listed on the > tax lists in King & Queen in 1704. This may be our Richard Turner; however > there is another Turner family in the same region, probably relatives, and > this Richard may be from it.This may be our Richard Turner; however there > is another Turner family in the same region, probably relatives, and this > Richard may be from it. Most of these records were burned in the Civil > War. In Caroline County only the order book remains with the details of > the order book having been burned. The orphan hearing of Meshack, > Abednego, Elizabeth, and Sarah is in 1746, I believe. At this time > Shadrack must have been sixteen so he would not have needed a guardian. > Members of the Turner family and Meadows family were appointed as > guardians. I have never found mention of a son named John as a brother of > these children and do not think there was one. According to the English > naming scheme the names Richard, James and Lewis would have been used > before the name John. Both James and Lewis named their sons John. The > scheme goes first son after father of father, second after father of > mother, third after father's oldest brother, and so on; the girls were > named the same only after mothers. If the Richard Turner was our Richard > Turner then there is no way that Shadrack could have been born in England. > I thik he was born in Caroline County, Virginia Henry County was cut from > Bedford and Franklin Counties. James Turner had moved to Bedford County > from Caroline County in the late 1750's or early 1760's. I do not know who > Shadrack's wife was but the popular tradition is that she was Ann Hill, > especially since lots of the time brothers married sisters and I believe > Meshack married a Hill, also. After school is out and I have more time I > will pull all my old files out and send you copies of the order book, etc. > An order book is sort of an index or a simplified version of the record > with details in the files. > > RICHARD TURNER: Fact 4: d1744, will lists son Richard as the heir and > James as executor > Children of RICHARD TURNER are: > i. RICHARD2 TURNER, d. Bef. 1750. > ii. LEWIS TURNER. > iii. MARGARET TURNER. > iv. JAMES TURNER, born Abt. 1670; d. Bedford County, VA?. > More About JAMES TURNER: Fact 4: He moved to Bedford County , Virginia and > his descendents lived in Henry and Franklin County 2. > v. JOHN TURNER, born Abt. 1689, England; d. Bef. 1736, Caroline County, > Virginia. 1 Marriage 1 Elizabeth b: Abt 1662 > > John Turner is said to have three daughter and four sons > > > John Turner Birth: Abt 1689 in Lands End, Cornwallshire County, England > Death: Bef 1742 in Caroline County, Virginia * > > John TURNER-818 was born about 1690 in Lands End, Cornwall, England. He d. > about 1742 in Caroline County , VA, Royal Colony. John married (1) > Elizabeth ___-819 on 1 Jul 1718 in Queen Anne's, Parish, Prince Georges C, > Maryland. Elizabeth d. about 1744. Whether Shadrack, Meshack and Abednego > were actually sons of John Turner or were even born in Caroline County, > Virginia is still unsubstantiated. What is known however is that Shadrack > and Meshack were brothers. Some people claim to have extended the family > line further. Researchers making the connection to Richard and to the > children below base their work on information taken from the Caroline > County, Virginia Order Book from 1744. Based on the asumption that John > died before the 1742 probate of Richard Turner's estate, the death of his > wife around 1744 resulted in their children being assigned to a guardian. > The 1744 Order Book lists Meshack, Abednego, Sarah, Elizabeth and Ann with > guardianships. It is supposed that Shadrach would already have been 16 at > the time and no longer needing a guardian > > Marriage 1 Elizabeth Brashears > Married: 1 JUL 1718 in Queen Ann's Parish, Prince Georges, Maryland > > Children > Abendnego Turner > John Jr. Turner > Shadrack Turner > Meshack S. Sr. Turner > > Then found this. > According to the Caroline County, Virginia, Order Book 1740-1746, Page 344 > (11 January 1745 these are the choices: > > Meshech Turner being admitted to choose a guardian made choice of James > Turner, who with Saml. Norment acknowledged their bond. > > Abednego Turner being admitted to choose a guardian made choice of Wm. > Pemberton, who with Robt. Powell acknowledged their bond. > > Elizabeth Turner being admitted to choose a guardian made choice of Jason > Meadows, who with Lewis Turner acknowedged their bond. note from Janet: > Jasons Meadows cousin of Jonas Meadows. > > Sarah Turner being admitted to choose a guardian made choice of James > Turner, who with Saml. Norment acknowledged their bond. > > Ann Turner being admitted to choose a guardian made choice of Jonas > Meadows who with Lewis Turner acknowledged their bond. > > Note from Janet: Ann (Oops should be Agnes)Holloway married Micajah > Turner. Jonas Meador married Mary Holloway. Ann and Jane are sister. Jonas > Meador brother John married Jane Holloway. I know the Meador family for > descend from them too. Michjah Turner and Agnes Holloway children were > Mary, Lewis and John. I wonder who is Michjah for he died left Agnes as > widow. > > Sarah Turner above was said to born 1719 in Carolina County, Virginia > married William Echols born 1704 son of John Echols and Mary Cave. > > > I seeking information on Turner family. > > Janet > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > Remember to include the five basic items: WHO (complete name), > WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), > WHERE (did these folks live?) and HOW (can we reach you?). > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 > >