About the index, it is only as good as the folks that did it. Sometimes people got missed. Sometimes the names were hard to make out or they could not read them. In some cases in the 1860 I have seen names misspelled by the census taker and even people with different names........................Say for instance If someone was named John William Adams....................one year he may show up as John and another as William and with both common names to begin with this makes for a huge mess. However if you have searched the census page by page already, then unless you miss him........................he is just not there. You may in fact end up using this Military data to prove he was alive and well and have to skip the year 1860 altogether...................... Also try other sources to prove information about him. Try Tax lists and Wills and thing such as this. Even the old Ct. Minutes come in handy at times. Let's face it..................for what ever reason some of our People seemed to be hiding out when the census taker came to call. If all else fails I would try the surrounding Counties as well. He could have been living at the time, just over the line and ended up being counted in someone elses household in a surrounding County. Did in his military records it say what County he hailed from by any chance? I know that some records give a lot of detail and some of the Military records for the Civil War give very little at all. Who were they realted to by this point in time, try searching under that surname to bring up relatives then see if they were hidding out in their homes. Always note Using ancestry is good, but mistakes are made. That is why we always need to check the org. when possible. In your case you may have to use the Org. in order to locate them at all. Do you have them in 1850 and 1870? If so you may end up again as I said before just having to skip that one census for them and go on. I too have had to do this a few times. Good luck to you with this. You do have a hard one to solve here. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Lofurno" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Finding ancestors in 1860 > Gail, > > I thought about the fact that David & Walter might be living with someone > else in 1860, but then wouldn't their names at least show up on the > Ancestry.com 1860 index which lists everyone in each household? They both > enlisted in the Caroline Light Dragoons and fought in Virginia, so they > ought to be in Virginia somewhere. I have looked EVERYWHERE. I've even > browsed the entire Caroline Co. census page by page to no avail. > > Julie > > Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > If Diane does not have a suggestion, I happen to have one perhaps. > It could be they are not showing up if using an index of only Heads of > Household as they may have been living for a time with another family in a > place where they wanted to enlist at. > My Andrew Jackson on one of the US Censuses if found under this > manner.................................. > His Mother and siblings left and went to Fulton Co., GA he is still back > in > Cherokee Ct. AL with a neighbor family awaiting to enlist into the 19th > AL. > Inf. out of Centre............... > Just a thought! > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julie Lofurno" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:56 AM > Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Finding ancestors in 1860 > > >> Diane, >> I haven't been following this discussing, but you are doing exactly the >> same thing with your research that I am....I'm not to the point where I'm >> comfortable putting it all online. No particular reason. Part of it is >> because I don't know how to do it either! (LOL) >> >> Anyway, I have a particular question for you. I have never been able to >> find my husband's great-grandfather David Cash on the 1860 Virginia >> census. He lived and died in Caroline County and is on every other census >> between 1840-1910. He did fight in the Civil War, so I'm wondering if >> that had anything to do with his not being enumerated. Interestingly, >> David's brother Walter Cash (who also fought in the war) is not on the >> 1860 census either. Recently I had a chance to help someone locate their >> ancestors on the 1860 census in Kentucky and Illinois....same thing. They >> are nowhere to be found in 1860. >> >> Have you run across this type of thing with any of your ancestors who >> fought in the war? If so, do you have an explanation since the war did >> not even start until the following year? >> >> Julie >> >> Diane S wrote: >> Well eventually I plan to put all the information I have gathered into >> softcover book form for my family - not for the public in general - not >> for profit but just to make sure all the minute details are known! I may >> even scan the documents I have accumulated - and that alone will take >> years! With those, the story almost tells itself. >> Diane >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gail Moore >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 1:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #89 >> >> >> That was sort of what I meant for his decendants sake. I mean once they >> are >> all gone who will ever even know. >> Or are they doing research on their line also. Now that is one way we can >> all help make sure that future people know about these brave soles! >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Diane S" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:48 AM >> Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #89 >> >> >>> Oh, this is one of those stories handed down from generations and there >>> were so many acts of bravery in the building of our nation that this is >>> insignificant except to his descendants. The sad thing is that one of >>> the >>> brothers died that day and later another died of smallpox during the >>> war - >>> there were 9 brothers in this family and all served! There were three >>> captains, two lieutenants and the rest were privates - all brave men. So >>> many of the feats of heroism can never be documented - it is up to us to >>> keep their legacy alive! >>> Diane >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Gail Moore >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:02 PM >>> Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #89 >>> >>> >>> That's very sad, and should be changed and made right today. If other >>> stuff >>> can get changed why not his. Can you prove your story of him hiding in >>> the >>> woods and such. If so I would give it a try. >>> I mean he risked his life side by side with his brothers, he did later >>> join >>> a unit so I don't see why it would be such a terrible thing to make a >>> correction. I mean I think our founding fathers and earlier ancestors >>> deserve the very best after what all they did to make this country the >>> place >>> we call home today! >>> If it were not for them we would be in a real pickle! >>> Gail >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Diane S" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 2:14 AM >>> Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #89 >>> >>> >>> > Hi - >>> > I have only seen lists of soldiers in the state where they served - >>> > not >>> > their birth states - I don't think they had the capability of keeping >>> > those lists back then... in fact, most of us are very fortunate if we >>> can >>> > find the unit our ancestors served in! Just recently I found my York >>> > ancestor and disappointed the entire family by informing them he was a >>> > private not a captain! So it goes... most were privates! I know >>> > another >>> > ancestor was at King's Mountain, but he was underage and just followed >>> his >>> > older brothers, keeping to the woods until the battle when he joined >>> them >>> > and it was too late to send him home....later he joined a unit... and >>> you >>> > will never find his name on any King's Mountain list! ;-( >>> > Diane >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: [email protected] >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 11:29 PM >>> > Subject: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #89 >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Diane, >>> > Yes, Joel Vaughn served from Rutherford Co., NC BUT was born in >>> Caroline >>> > Co., so it does say something, right? >>> > Shirley >>> > >>> > >>> > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== >>> > Please contact the Caroline County mailing list manager >>> > at [email protected] with any comments, questions >>> > or problems you may have regarding your membership. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > No virus found in this incoming message. >>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: >>> 6/17/2005 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== >>> > Remember to include the five basic items: WHO (complete name), >>> > WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), >>> > WHERE (did these folks live?) and HOW (can we reach you?). >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== >>> When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the message board, >>> be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. >>> Since the poster may not be a member of our mailing list, >>> they will only see your response when it is made through the board. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== >>> Please contact the Caroline County mailing list manager >>> at [email protected] with any comments, questions >>> or problems you may have regarding your membership. >>> >> >> >> ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== >> CAROLINE CO. 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