Debra, The Harrell name has about twenty different spellings in VA and NC but the pronunciation changes very little. I have traced the Harrells back to 850 AD and it would still be Harrall, Harrell etc. I found that one of them was responsible for London Bridge falling down! Names can be interesting! Keep Diggin', you never know what you'll find! G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

This same difference in pronunciation is found in Missouri. Talliaferro (or Taliaferro) is an Italian name, at least, as I went to a Kansas City, Missouri High School in an area with a large Italian population and it was found there. And I suffered a rude cultural shock at a fraternity mixer when I tried to converse with set of young ladies belonging to a sorority with Southern origins. That came when I expressed the opinion that my leg was being pulled when introduced to the "Tolliver (Taliaferro) sisters". The tone with which I was set straight left no doubt about how the sisters (and all others in the sorority) pronounced the name. That left me with a question, still unanswered today. Though I have seen the name Taliaferro often in genealogy, and know it existed in England centuries ago (possibly from conversos in Italy or Spain, who moved to England during the years of the Inquisition?), what did those two sisters actually know of themselves in that year of 1964, because the name certainly appeared to be Italian, and the reaction led me to believe that was not the first time the question had been raised? Phil Lindsey [email protected] wrote: >Would Tailiaferro be spanish or Italian? Both spelling of the name are heavy in Louisiana and Arkansas. Since this conversation started I was amazed to find they were one in the same. It also makes me wonder with all the changing around of names I've seen in documents etc that even the name Oliver could have come from Toliver. > >I'm intriqued with the storyteller of the Appalacians if this is of Ireland? My g grandfather and his father and even his father had this strange ritual of telling the greatest stories. Even my grandfather used to pull them on us. They would tell the most fantastic and interesting story only to find out they had sucked us into a whopper. They would actually have family contests as to who could tell the best story. I can tell you they pretty darn good. Stephen King has nothing on them. >Debra > >Carol E Barron <[email protected]> wrote: >I've been reading bio sketches in the book "History of Woodford Co., Ky" >by Wm E. Railey, 1938, reprint 1968--and the name "Tolliver" for >Talliaferro seemed to be used early on. The bio sketch of Tolliver Craig >m Mary Hawkins is in this book but quite lengthy, however, there is >another mention in the sketch of Manoah Singleton m Sarah Craig, dau of >Talliaferro (Tolliver) Craig & Mary Hawkins extracted as follows: > >"The father of "Tolliver" Craig, the 1st was John Craig, Jr., of >Scotland, who died in 1704, and whose wife was Jane Talliaferro. After >his death his widow came to America with her two brothers, Robert and >John Talliaferro, where her posthumous son "Tolliver" was born, in >Spotsylvania County, Va. in 1705. He married Mary Hawkins in 1730, and >they were the parents of Lewis, Elijah and Joseph Craig, the three >preachers who led the famous "Traveling Church" into Kentucky from >Spotsylvania County, Va., in 1781. John Craig, the father of "Tolliver" >was either a son or a grandson of John Craig, the Friar, mentioned in the >sketch of the Parrishes on p 232." > >Note: The above information was given to the author for his >publication--data given should always be verified by records. > >Carol Barron > > > > >On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:50:28 -0500 "G. Lee Hearl" writes: > > >>Here in the Applalchian mountains of Va. there are many Tolliver >>families. >>No one pronounces Tolliver as "Taliaferro" so, why would Taliaferro >>be >>pronounced as "Tolliver"? I am of the opinion that some people are >>"hearing" >>it wrong! I believe it is actually being pronounced Talia-ferr with >>the "o" >>silent. It really dosen't make a lot of difference how it's >>pronounced but >>I've seen this discussion many times on the lists. >>G. Lee Hearl >>Authentic Appalachian Storyteller >>Abingdon, Va. >> >> >> >>==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== >>Please contact the Caroline County mailing list manager >>at [email protected] with any comments, questions >>or problems you may have regarding your membership. >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== >CAROLINE CO. VAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vacaroli/caroline.htm >RESOURCE PAGE: http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/VA/Caroline >CAROLINE CO. GENFORUM: http://genforum.genealogy.com/va/caroline/ >MAIL LIST PAGE: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/VA/caroline.html > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > > >==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== >Remember to include the five basic items: WHO (complete name), >WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), >WHERE (did these folks live?) and HOW (can we reach you?). > > > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IBC.2ACI/2457.2 Message Board Post: Let me check on this, I believe my g g g grandfather is a benjamin, I need to see if it is a powell he married, this is in Brunswick county virginia (Valentines) area.

You shouldn't feel bad at all. I was raised in California but was lucky and my husband was in the service and we've lived all over the world. In California we called it Row day o drive and in the south it's row dee o . I would love to see one of them say they are going to a row day o at the cow palace. lol The Spanish influence is very strong in California. The J sound is pronounced like our W. So next time your cousins visit you try them out at Joquin Valley or some such. [email protected] wrote: I was visiting Kentucky for the first time to research my Smith-Chewning line from Caroline Co., VA Their son who was born in Caroline or Spotsylvania, in 1805 was Harley Taliaferro Smith. I pronounced it like it looks and was corrected and told it was pronounced Toliver. I was born and raised in California, so as you can imagine there were a few more words that I said wrong. My Cousins were gracious enough to correct me and overlook it. Tiffany ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== Remember to include the five basic items: WHO (complete name), WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), WHERE (did these folks live?) and HOW (can we reach you?). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Would Tailiaferro be spanish or Italian? Both spelling of the name are heavy in Louisiana and Arkansas. Since this conversation started I was amazed to find they were one in the same. It also makes me wonder with all the changing around of names I've seen in documents etc that even the name Oliver could have come from Toliver. I'm intriqued with the storyteller of the Appalacians if this is of Ireland? My g grandfather and his father and even his father had this strange ritual of telling the greatest stories. Even my grandfather used to pull them on us. They would tell the most fantastic and interesting story only to find out they had sucked us into a whopper. They would actually have family contests as to who could tell the best story. I can tell you they pretty darn good. Stephen King has nothing on them. Debra Carol E Barron <[email protected]> wrote: I've been reading bio sketches in the book "History of Woodford Co., Ky" by Wm E. Railey, 1938, reprint 1968--and the name "Tolliver" for Talliaferro seemed to be used early on. The bio sketch of Tolliver Craig m Mary Hawkins is in this book but quite lengthy, however, there is another mention in the sketch of Manoah Singleton m Sarah Craig, dau of Talliaferro (Tolliver) Craig & Mary Hawkins extracted as follows: "The father of "Tolliver" Craig, the 1st was John Craig, Jr., of Scotland, who died in 1704, and whose wife was Jane Talliaferro. After his death his widow came to America with her two brothers, Robert and John Talliaferro, where her posthumous son "Tolliver" was born, in Spotsylvania County, Va. in 1705. He married Mary Hawkins in 1730, and they were the parents of Lewis, Elijah and Joseph Craig, the three preachers who led the famous "Traveling Church" into Kentucky from Spotsylvania County, Va., in 1781. John Craig, the father of "Tolliver" was either a son or a grandson of John Craig, the Friar, mentioned in the sketch of the Parrishes on p 232." Note: The above information was given to the author for his publication--data given should always be verified by records. Carol Barron On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:50:28 -0500 "G. Lee Hearl" writes: > Here in the Applalchian mountains of Va. there are many Tolliver > families. > No one pronounces Tolliver as "Taliaferro" so, why would Taliaferro > be > pronounced as "Tolliver"? I am of the opinion that some people are > "hearing" > it wrong! I believe it is actually being pronounced Talia-ferr with > the "o" > silent. It really dosen't make a lot of difference how it's > pronounced but > I've seen this discussion many times on the lists. > G. Lee Hearl > Authentic Appalachian Storyteller > Abingdon, Va. > > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > Please contact the Caroline County mailing list manager > at [email protected] with any comments, questions > or problems you may have regarding your membership. > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== CAROLINE CO. VAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vacaroli/caroline.htm RESOURCE PAGE: http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/VA/Caroline CAROLINE CO. GENFORUM: http://genforum.genealogy.com/va/caroline/ MAIL LIST PAGE: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/VA/caroline.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

We are surpose to be here for the common good of advancing studies of our lines. Could you guys just stop this nonsense and get back to the important things of learning and advancing. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

I'm a newbie too to the list but have done research for 45 years and the minute you want to stop learning you might as well just lock yourself in the bathroom and push the plunger. There is way too much negative and not enough constructive help here. Teresa Elliott <[email protected]> wrote:I was enjoying and learning from the discussion until it got personal. As a newbie to the list, I haven't read the other discussions and I had often wondered how to say the name that I am just starting to see in my research as I move from Tennessee to Virginia. Looking at the two names, I wonder if the pronunciation isn't really Tolifer and people hear it as Toliver. The way I was pronouncing it in my head was Ta Lie Fur Row, very different than Toliver. Teresa Ghee Elliott Rutherford Co., TN cemeteries: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rutherfordcemetery/ TMG sentences: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rutherfordcemetery/TMG.html Organized genealogy [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: G. Lee Hearl [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] ATTN: G Lee Hearl Personally, I think wasting our time discussing how names or words are pronounced in various parts of the country reflects on how Little we have to occupy our minds! The Tolliver vs Taliferro discussion has happened on the lists so many times it is no longer Funny. It is quite evident that as the two names are spelled differently, there should be two distinct pronunciations and the families should pronounce it any way they wish! The only thing of importance should be that researchers prove the spellings in old documents and the relationship to their research. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va. ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the message board, be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. Since the poster may not be a member of our mailing list, they will only see your response when it is made through the board. ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== Please contact the Caroline County mailing list manager at [email protected] with any comments, questions or problems you may have regarding your membership. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page

Isn't Carey the one who wrote it? I don't think it's what you think it is. But the meaning of words and surnames is far too interesting to worry about other stuff. I was looking for the Wood family from Ga that married into a family from Va. Once in La and especially if they come in the state through the southern part the latin from the catholic church changed the surname from Wood to Lena which means burning wood. I've run into other names where they change too but I think the whole subject is worth the time when searching. Debra Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: I did not write this I am sorry. But someone has added my name here and this is just so unfunny. Please don't add other peoples names to your post. ADD YOUR OWN Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carey Bankhead" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:58 AM Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] ATTN: G Lee Hearl > In regard to the proper pronounciation of 'Taliaferro,' many years ago I > was in the Orange Co, VA Clerk's office researching this and other > surnames, when a crusty old gentleman asked what I was looking for. I > mentioned the Taliaferro name, using the Italian version. He responsed, > 'white people say Toliver, black people say Taliaferro.' This appears > similar to another of my surnames, Yarborough. I'm told that after the > Civil War those of the family who sympathized with one side used that > spelling while their counterparts used Yarbro. > > Gail Moore wrote: > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > CAROLINE CO. VAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vacaroli/caroline.htm > RESOURCE PAGE: http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/VA/Caroline > CAROLINE CO. GENFORUM: http://genforum.genealogy.com/va/caroline/ > MAIL LIST PAGE: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/VA/caroline.html > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the message board, be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. Since the poster may not be a member of our mailing list, they will only see your response when it is made through the board. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

To Gail: I don't know what you are referring to per Attn: G. Lee Hearl! >>>>> Please don't add other peoples names to your post. ADD YOUR OWN Gail<<<< Personally, I think wasting our time discussing how names or words are pronounced in various parts of the country reflects on how Little we have to occupy our minds! The Tolliver vs Taliferro discussion has happened on the lists so many times it is no longer Funny. It is quite evident that as the two names are spelled differently, there should be two distinct pronunciations and the families should pronounce it any way they wish! The only thing of importance should be that researchers prove the spellings in old documents and the relationship to their research. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

I was enjoying and learning from the discussion until it got personal. As a newbie to the list, I haven't read the other discussions and I had often wondered how to say the name that I am just starting to see in my research as I move from Tennessee to Virginia. Looking at the two names, I wonder if the pronunciation isn't really Tolifer and people hear it as Toliver. The way I was pronouncing it in my head was Ta Lie Fur Row, very different than Toliver. Teresa Ghee Elliott Rutherford Co., TN cemeteries: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rutherfordcemetery/ TMG sentences: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rutherfordcemetery/TMG.html Organized genealogy [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: G. Lee Hearl [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] ATTN: G Lee Hearl Personally, I think wasting our time discussing how names or words are pronounced in various parts of the country reflects on how Little we have to occupy our minds! The Tolliver vs Taliferro discussion has happened on the lists so many times it is no longer Funny. It is quite evident that as the two names are spelled differently, there should be two distinct pronunciations and the families should pronounce it any way they wish! The only thing of importance should be that researchers prove the spellings in old documents and the relationship to their research. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va. ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the message board, be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. Since the poster may not be a member of our mailing list, they will only see your response when it is made through the board.

I did not write this I am sorry. But someone has added my name here and this is just so unfunny. Please don't add other peoples names to your post. ADD YOUR OWN Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carey Bankhead" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:58 AM Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] ATTN: G Lee Hearl > In regard to the proper pronounciation of 'Taliaferro,' many years ago I > was in the Orange Co, VA Clerk's office researching this and other > surnames, when a crusty old gentleman asked what I was looking for. I > mentioned the Taliaferro name, using the Italian version. He responsed, > 'white people say Toliver, black people say Taliaferro.' This appears > similar to another of my surnames, Yarborough. I'm told that after the > Civil War those of the family who sympathized with one side used that > spelling while their counterparts used Yarbro. > > Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > CAROLINE CO. VAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vacaroli/caroline.htm > RESOURCE PAGE: http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/VA/Caroline > CAROLINE CO. GENFORUM: http://genforum.genealogy.com/va/caroline/ > MAIL LIST PAGE: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/VA/caroline.html > >

Now you know that's not what I said. I was telling you what I had observed in one place. But if you really want to get all ruffled about it... then go ahead. -----Original Message----- From: Diane S [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #29 Well I guess us 'white' folks have it all wrong in this little corner of central Virginia ... but I have yet to hear anyone call her family other than the entire pronunciation... but thanks for the input- I will tell her parents they are doing it all wrong! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracey H. Robinson To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #29 In central Virginia (which includes Caroline) many times the pronunciation of Taliaferro seems to be determined by race. The black families pronounce their names as Tal-i-a-fer-ro while the white families say it as Tol-i-ver. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane S" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #29 > The part of Virginia I live pronounces all the letter sin Taliaferro - > just as it is spelled and my son married one!! > Diane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:39 AM > Subject: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #29 > > > Hi List Members, > I just want to interject something here. Taliferro is pronounced > "Tolliver." All four of my children graduated from the Univ. of MD and > there is a > Taliferro Hall there. That's the only way I knew what I wrote. > > I'm not reseaching this surname BUT am interested in the Vaugh(a)ns of > Caroline Co., VA. There was a Rev War soldier, Joel Vaugh(a)n, in SC on > the 1790 > Census who was from Caroline Co., VA. Can anyone help me please? I'm > interested in ANY Vaugh(a)ns from there at this point. > > Shirley McCoy > [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the message board, > be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. > Since the poster may not be a member of our mailing list, > they will only see your response when it is made through the board. > > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > Remember to include the five basic items: WHO (complete name), > WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), > WHERE (did these folks live?) and HOW (can we reach you?). > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== Remember to include the five basic items: WHO (complete name), WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), WHERE (did these folks live?) and HOW (can we reach you?). ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== Please contact the Caroline County mailing list manager at [email protected] with any comments, questions or problems you may have regarding your membership.

In regard to the proper pronounciation of 'Taliaferro,' many years ago I was in the Orange Co, VA Clerk's office researching this and other surnames, when a crusty old gentleman asked what I was looking for. I mentioned the Taliaferro name, using the Italian version. He responsed, 'white people say Toliver, black people say Taliaferro.' This appears similar to another of my surnames, Yarborough. I'm told that after the Civil War those of the family who sympathized with one side used that spelling while their counterparts used Yarbro. Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

Carol - Thanks for the Taliaferro information - my son says that his wife's grandmother remembered her grandmother using the Tolliver pronunciation.... guess it just matured with age. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol E Barron To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Taliaferro vs Tolliver: I've been reading bio sketches in the book "History of Woodford Co., Ky" by Wm E. Railey, 1938, reprint 1968--and the name "Tolliver" for Talliaferro seemed to be used early on. The bio sketch of Tolliver Craig m Mary Hawkins is in this book but quite lengthy, however, there is another mention in the sketch of Manoah Singleton m Sarah Craig, dau of Talliaferro (Tolliver) Craig & Mary Hawkins extracted as follows: "The father of "Tolliver" Craig, the 1st was John Craig, Jr., of Scotland, who died in 1704, and whose wife was Jane Talliaferro. After his death his widow came to America with her two brothers, Robert and John Talliaferro, where her posthumous son "Tolliver" was born, in Spotsylvania County, Va. in 1705. He married Mary Hawkins in 1730, and they were the parents of Lewis, Elijah and Joseph Craig, the three preachers who led the famous "Traveling Church" into Kentucky from Spotsylvania County, Va., in 1781. John Craig, the father of "Tolliver" was either a son or a grandson of John Craig, the Friar, mentioned in the sketch of the Parrishes on p 232." Note: The above information was given to the author for his publication--data given should always be verified by records. Carol Barron On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:50:28 -0500 "G. Lee Hearl" <[email protected]> writes: > Here in the Applalchian mountains of Va. there are many Tolliver > families. > No one pronounces Tolliver as "Taliaferro" so, why would Taliaferro > be > pronounced as "Tolliver"? I am of the opinion that some people are > "hearing" > it wrong! I believe it is actually being pronounced Talia-ferr with > the "o" > silent. It really dosen't make a lot of difference how it's > pronounced but > I've seen this discussion many times on the lists. > G. Lee Hearl > Authentic Appalachian Storyteller > Abingdon, Va. > > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > Please contact the Caroline County mailing list manager > at [email protected] with any comments, questions > or problems you may have regarding your membership. > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== CAROLINE CO. VAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vacaroli/caroline.htm RESOURCE PAGE: http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/VA/Caroline CAROLINE CO. GENFORUM: http://genforum.genealogy.com/va/caroline/ MAIL LIST PAGE: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/VA/caroline.html

Well I guess us 'white' folks have it all wrong in this little corner of central Virginia ... but I have yet to hear anyone call her family other than the entire pronunciation... but thanks for the input- I will tell her parents they are doing it all wrong! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracey H. Robinson To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #29 In central Virginia (which includes Caroline) many times the pronunciation of Taliaferro seems to be determined by race. The black families pronounce their names as Tal-i-a-fer-ro while the white families say it as Tol-i-ver. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane S" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #29 > The part of Virginia I live pronounces all the letter sin Taliaferro - > just as it is spelled and my son married one!! > Diane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:39 AM > Subject: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #29 > > > Hi List Members, > I just want to interject something here. Taliferro is pronounced > "Tolliver." All four of my children graduated from the Univ. of MD and > there is a > Taliferro Hall there. That's the only way I knew what I wrote. > > I'm not reseaching this surname BUT am interested in the Vaugh(a)ns of > Caroline Co., VA. There was a Rev War soldier, Joel Vaugh(a)n, in SC on > the 1790 > Census who was from Caroline Co., VA. Can anyone help me please? I'm > interested in ANY Vaugh(a)ns from there at this point. > > Shirley McCoy > [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the message board, > be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. > Since the poster may not be a member of our mailing list, > they will only see your response when it is made through the board. > > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > Remember to include the five basic items: WHO (complete name), > WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), > WHERE (did these folks live?) and HOW (can we reach you?). > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== Remember to include the five basic items: WHO (complete name), WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), WHERE (did these folks live?) and HOW (can we reach you?).

I am not sure if this will help but found two court records indexed at the website for Historic Court Records, Fredericksburg Circuit Court Records. It is a wonderful site. Covers many Counties. Sincerely Tiffany Luchetta www.historiccourtrecords.org Court Record Data Context Extract Birth Philip Johnston abt. 17 yrs. old in 1769 Death Benjamin Johnson died in KY before 5 Apr. 1791 Death James Miller died in March 1808 Death Richard Johnston died in 1785 Death Robert Gilchrist died about 1791 Death Robert Johnston died between 4 Apr. & 14 Sep. 1780 Death William Johnston died between 24 Apr. & 12 Oct. 1769 Defendant Lawrence Muse (exor.); Jeremiah Upshaw (decd); Francis Buckner (admr.); Churchill Anderson (admr.); James Upshaw (decd); Anthony Thornton (exor.); Walker Taliaferro (decd); Reuben T. Taylor (exor.); James Taylor (decd); Elizabeth H. Taliaferro (admrx.); William Taliaferro (decd); John T. Woodford; Lucy Woodford; William Jones (admr.); James Jones (decd); Thomas Jones (decd); John Jones (decd); Absalom Waller; William Fant; Ann Fant; John W. Jones; Gustavus A. Jones; Sophia Jones; Lucy Ann Jones; Peter Dudley; Ann Dudley (decd); John H. Rawlins; Peyton Rawlins; William Sthreshley; Elizabeth Sthreshley; William Saunders; Sarah Saunders Deponent / Affiant Robert Farish Estate acct. of Walker Taliaferro est. - 1782-1785 Estate I&A of Francis Coleman est. - 1771 Estate acct. of Francis Coleman est. - 1771-1815 Estate I&A of Walker Taliaferro est. - 1782 Family Thomas Jones, James Jones, William Jones & Madison Jones - sons of John Jones Family Walker Taliaferro, Richard Taliaferro & William Taliaferro, sons of William Taliaferro Family Benjamin Johnston, son of William Johnston Family Mrs. Thornton, mother of Sally Taliaferro who was wife of Walker Taliaferro Family Hartwell Taliaferro, Ann Taliaferro, Eliza Taliaferro & Mary Taliaferro - daughters of William Taliaferro Family Elizabeth H. Taliaferro, wife of William Taliaferro Family Christopher Taliaferro, brother of Walker Taliaferro Family John H. Rawlins & Peyton Rawlins, sons of Ann Dudley Family Mary Madison Jones, daughter of Thomas Jones Family Jno. Waller Jones, Sophia Jones, Paul Jones, Gustavus Jones & James Jones - children of James Jones Family Anna Smelt, Salley Jones & Lucy Jones - daughters of John Jones Family William Johnston, father of Philip Johnston Family Lucy Johnston, widow of Robert Johnston Family William Taliaferro & Mary Turner Taliaferro, children of Walker Taliaferro Family Hannah Coleman, widow of Francis Coleman Family Francis Coleman, son in law of William Johnston Family Robert Johnston, Richard Johnston & Benjamin Johnston - sons of William Johnston Family Walker Taliaferro, son of Christopher Taliaferro Funeral acct. due John Cummings for a coffin - 1771 Locality Caroline Co. (Port Royal); Essex Co.; Louisa Co.; Manchester; Spotsylvania Co.; Westmoreland Co.; King & Queen Co.; UK (Glasgow); KY (Jefferson Co.) Marriage William Sthreshley -mr- Elizabeth Jones, widow of Thomas Jones Marriage William Taylor -mr- Fanny Coleman, daughter of Francis Coleman Marriage William Saunders -mr- Sarah Jones, daughter of John Jones Marriage William Fant -mr- Ann Jones, widow of James Jones Marriage William Dickenson -mr- Lucy Coleman, daughter of Francis Coleman Marriage John T. Woodford -mr- Mary T. Taliaferro, daughter of Walker Taliaferro Marriage John Jones -mr- Ann Madison, daughter of Thomas Madison Marriage David Dickenson -mr- Ann Coleman, daughter of Francis Coleman Marriage Absalom Waller -mr- Lucy Jones, daughter of John Jones Marriage FNU Roy -mr- Jane Duke, daughter of Francis Coleman Marriage FNU Rawlins -mr- Ann Jones, daughter of John Jones Marriage Peter Dudley -mr- Ann Jones, daughter of John Jones Marriage FNU Duke -mr- Jane Coleman, daughter of Francis Coleman Plaintiff David Dickenson (admr.); David Dickenson (decd); Ann Dickenson; Francis Dickenson; Elizabeth Dickenson; Ann Dickenson; Thomas Dickenson; Fanny Dickenson; David Dickenson; Samuel Dickenson; John Dickenson; William Dickenson; Lucy Dickenson; Francis Dickenson; Samuel C. Dickenson; Festus Dickenson; Charles L. Carter (admr.); William Taylor (decd); Fanny Taylor; Archibald Taylor; Ritchie Taylor; Philip Taylor; Samuel White; Jane Roy; Jane Duke Slave Achilles; Adam; Aggy; Ampe; Andrew; Barnett; Beck; Becks Jenny; Billy; boy Pryness; Bristol; Carlalio; Caroline Co.; Carter; Cato; Cella; Charles; Charlotte; Christian; Clary; Corah; Cynthia; Daniel; Daphney; Dick; Dinah; Easter; Fanny; Frank; George; Gloucester; Great Polly; Hannah; Hanover; Harry; Hector; Humphrey; Hunter; Isaac; Jack; Jacob; Jenny; Jessee; Joe; John; Kate; Ketty; Kingston; Kitt; Little Betty; Little Frank; Liz; Lizy; Lucy; Mariah; Martin; Milly; Moses; Nancy; Nelly; Old Betty; Old Cato; Old Nanny; Patience; Pegg; Peggy; Peter; Phillis; Phoebe; Pitt; Polly; Pottidore; Primus; Pry; Rachel; Randolph; Reuben; Rose; Sally; Sidney; Simon; Spencer; Stepney; Sucky; Taylor Frank; Tom; Tossh; Willoby Slave Betsey & Zachary, children of Patt - property of Walker Taliaferro Slave Peter (carpenter); Peggy; Jenny - property of James Jones Slave Abel; Avey; Die; Ester & children Angeler & Sam; Grace; Harry; Juno; Milley; Nann; Violett - property of Francis Coleman Will James Jones - Caroline Co. - 1795 / 1802 Will John Jones - Caroline Co. - 1779 Will Thomas Jones - Caroline Co. - 1788 / 1789 Will Walker Taliaferro - Caroline Co. - 1781 / 1782 Will William Taliaferro (of Bath) - Caroline Co. - 1814 / 1817 Will Francis Coleman - Caroline Co. - 1771 Administrative Information Record title Dickenson vs Upshaw. Thornton &c Year recorded 1817 Collection CR-SC-H Record ID 83-13 End Notes Preserved by City of Fredericksburg Processed by Margaret Anne Crickman Extracted by Barry L. McGhee Extracted on 9/5/2002 Court Record Data Context Extract Deed of Gift Augustine Cowne to Thomas W. Cowne - King William Co. - 1824 @ Defendant Ann Walker Taliaferro; Cam Garlick; Mary Garlick; John Taliaferro; Walker Taliaferro; Temple Walker; William Dandridge (sheriff - admr.); Christopher Taliaferro (decd); Thomas Taliaferro; Patsy Taliaferro; James Guy; Ann E. Garlick; John Garlick; Adeline Garlick Deponent / Affiant Robert Cowne Family Augustine Cowne, uncle of Thomas Cowne & brother of Robert Cowne Family Elizabeth Taliaferro, Ann Walker Taliaferro, Mary Taliaferro & Lucy Taliaferro, daughters of Christopher Taliaferro Family William Taliaferro, John Taliaferro & Walker Taliaferro, sons of Christopher Taliaferro Family Christopher Taliaferro & Thomas Taliaferro, sons of William Taliaferro Family Patsy Taliaferro, daughter of William Taliaferro House to be built by John Pollard for Christopher Taliaferro - 1782 Locality Stafford Co.; King William Co.; Fauquier Co.; Henrico Co.; Caroline Co.; Culpeper Co.; KY (Lewis Co.) Marriage James Guy -mr- Polly Taliaferro, daughter of William Taliaferro Marriage Cam Garlick -mr- Mary Taliaferro, daughter of Christopher Taliaferro Marriage Temple Walker -mr- Lucy Taliaferro, daughter of Christopher Taliaferro Marriage Augustine Cowne -mr- Elizabeth Taliaferro Plaintiff Thomas W. Cowne Slave Milly; Jane; Sarah - property of Christopher Taliaferro estate Tract Goose Pond, where Christopher Taliaferro formerly lived Will Christopher Taliaferro - King William Co. - 1782 / 1785 Administrative Information Record title Cowne vs Taliaferro Year recorded 1826 Collection CR-SC-H Record ID 71-1 End Notes Preserved by City of Fredericksburg Processed by Margaret Anne Crickman Extracted by Barry L. McGhee Extracted on 9/5/2002

And knew and was associated with both William Cockerham and William Spillers of King William County, VA. Both of these men show up on the Quit Rent Roll of 1704 King William County VA along with these Taliaferro's! Then some if not all show up in Caroline Co., VA., and still later on in Halifax Co., VA. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:05 PM Subject: [VACAROLI] Re: Walker Taliaferro > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IBC.2ACI/15.24.26.127.128.1.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Christopher Taliaferro (b 1730± - d. 1784). I have found no dates for his > wife ??? Anderson. I have found no dates for their son Walker Taliaferro. > Their son John (b. 3/23/1764 in King Wm Co. – d. 3/4/1840 in King Wm Co.). > Walker’s wife was Mildred Coleman Ellett (b. 1786 – d. ????). John’s wife > was Nancy Brooke (b. 1762± in King Wm Co. - d. 1791). I have found no > dates for William Ellett Taliafterro, son of Walker and Mildred. Nancy > Brooke Taliaferro (b. 1788± - ????), daughter of John and Nancy. And I > have found no dates for Mary Evelyn Taliaferro daughter of William Ellett > Taliaferro and Nancy Brooke Taliaferro. Mary Evelyn married Creed Tillman > Jeter (b. 1844 – d. ???). The daughter of Creed and Mary Evelyn was Nanny > Brooke Jeter (b. 1866 – d. 1950). All of the people mentioned were born > (and lived) in Virginia. > THANK YOU! > > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > Please contact the Caroline County mailing list manager > at [email protected] with any comments, questions > or problems you may have regarding your membership. > >

You mentioned that your an Authentic Appalachian Storyteller, does this include stories of some of our Ancestors by name? In other words are some of the Authentic stories still around that name folks who were there long ago? Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Lee Hearl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:50 AM Subject: [VACAROLI] Taliaferro vs Tolliver: > Here in the Applalchian mountains of Va. there are many Tolliver families. > No one pronounces Tolliver as "Taliaferro" so, why would Taliaferro be > pronounced as "Tolliver"? I am of the opinion that some people are > "hearing" it wrong! I believe it is actually being pronounced Talia-ferr > with the "o" silent. It really dosen't make a lot of difference how it's > pronounced but I've seen this discussion many times on the lists. > G. Lee Hearl > Authentic Appalachian Storyteller > Abingdon, Va. > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > Please contact the Caroline County mailing list manager > at [email protected] with any comments, questions > or problems you may have regarding your membership. > >

Most likely depends on where the person lives as to how it is spoken................Just like back in the day, it mattered who was doing the writing as to how it was spelled! Just FOOD for thought............... Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane S" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #29 > The part of Virginia I live pronounces all the letter sin Taliaferro - > just as it is spelled and my son married one!! > Diane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:39 AM > Subject: [VACAROLI] Re: VACAROLI-D Digest V05 #29 > > > Hi List Members, > I just want to interject something here. Taliferro is pronounced > "Tolliver." All four of my children graduated from the Univ. of MD and > there is a > Taliferro Hall there. That's the only way I knew what I wrote. > > I'm not reseaching this surname BUT am interested in the Vaugh(a)ns of > Caroline Co., VA. There was a Rev War soldier, Joel Vaugh(a)n, in SC on > the 1790 > Census who was from Caroline Co., VA. Can anyone help me please? I'm > interested in ANY Vaugh(a)ns from there at this point. > > Shirley McCoy > [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the message board, > be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. > Since the poster may not be a member of our mailing list, > they will only see your response when it is made through the board. > > > > ==== VACAROLI Mailing List ==== > Remember to include the five basic items: WHO (complete name), > WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), > WHERE (did these folks live?) and HOW (can we reach you?). > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IBC.2ACI/1178.1161.1 Message Board Post: charles woodfork carter is buried be side his son mongomery carter who died at birth his second wife was julia klock carter from jefferson county n.y.