Hello, up there in VA ! This is Al Metts in San Antonio. I am trying to find a lady named Bessie Thompson Jackson. Fifteen years ago, she wrote the excellent and interesting article about Job and Jesse Thomas of Cumberland Co., VA. that I posted recently. I would like to write to her. Does anyone know her???? I will post the article again at the end of this message. If you have read it earlier, please read it again, now, and you will admit - it is good reading! I am posting queries wherever I can to find Bessie. She writes :"In 1740 we find Job, Elizabeth and two teenage sons, Jesse and Phineas". 1740?????? If Jesse was a teenager in 1740, he would have to have been born before 1727 !!! Not c. 1750. Well, he might have been. By 1805, when he died, he would have been 78 years old (I will be that old in 7 months!). Bessie says that Mary Howell was about 20 years younger than the old reprobate! That would make her born about 1747. Arithmetic - b. 1747 plus 20 (grown) is 1767. Before any of the 12 kids were born. >From the Jane Thomas book, we know that Sally Wood was her grandmother, with Jesse Wood Thomas as her father, middle name for Sally. Jane Thomas was old, but lucid, when the book was published. She was smart. On the other hand - Bessie says all 12 kids were Mary's. IF MARY WAS BORN IN 1747, age 20 in 1767, she could have been the mother of all 12 with the time of birth of Nathaniel in 1796. Whom do we believe? At this point, I believe Jane. Now, Bessie says some things I do not believe. I do not believe Job came from England. I do not believe that Jesse made "frequent trips" to England. The airlines were not flying then ! Jane said Sally came from England and married Jesse. Well, in the immigration books, I did not find Job, or Sally or Mary Howell. What does that mean? Nothing! Bessie may have the wrong Glover - Elijah instead of Joshua - was she wrong or right? Eleanor CROW Thomas may have been given the middle name from Job's Indian maiden!!! Ho! HO! The fact that two stayed in VA means nothing - their husbands stayed. I will say that it is an interesting story. Many legends are. I have found them to be basically true. Exaggerations are there. Errors are frequent. I wish to know Bessie! The background of Elizabeth Hoggett/Hoggatt sounds sound! I get messages from you nice folk on the lists. Maybe someone will fill in the blanks. I put this story on the Cumberland List and the Buckingham list. Both lists are very active. I put a query on the Cumberland Home Page to ask if anyone knows Bessie. Yahoo and the other browsers do not know her (she must have a husband) or she may be in a cemetery. I hope not!!! I hope that she is an active genealogist. After all - she is a cousin of Old Al Metts ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The article: THOMAS Among the immigrants to the New World in the 1700's was Job Thomas, born in England. Soon after arrival he married Elizabeth (Betsey) Hoggett (Collins), widow of Stephen Collins who had one child, Eleanor, who later married John Foster. Elizabeth was a daughter of Anthony Hoggett, a wealthy planter on James River who sold Tuckehoe Plantation to John Utley in 1723-975 acres. In 1740 we find Job, Elizabeth and two teen-age sons, Jesse and Phineas, well established in Cumberland Co., Va. About this time Job, in conjunction with several others, was granted a large tract of land on New River whichd drains the lower part of the Great Valley between the Allegheny and Blue Ridge and flows northwestward to Gauley Bridge, W. Va., where it joins the Kanawha. So Job decided to go on a long hunt to find out more about this fabulous place. Long hunters were the first explorers and most of them will forever remain nameless as they kept no records. Job was probably one of them as he collected his musket, a hunting knife, a few cooking utensils and a package of combs, needles and pins by which he could attract an Indian he might chance to meet and set off, not to be seen again for many, many years. In the meantime their sons, Jesse and Phineas, grew up with their mother Betsy on Royal Oaks Plantation which is now in the State Forest. Jesse made frequent trips to England where he married Sarah Wood of London, who died in a few years. His second wife was Mary Howell of Buckingham Co. who was about twenty years his junior. By her there were 12 children. As the years rolled on the Indian Trails widened into roads and a new frontier was opened up. A trickle became a stream of settlers going through Cumberland Gap - horseback riders, ox carts, heavy road wagons with iron wheels and canvas tops all loaded with settlers going west. Some of the Thomas relatives were already there, so they took their mother, Betsy, out for a visit. There they found their father, Job, who had heard that Betsy was dead and had taken a second wife, a Miss Crow, by whom he had another family of children. The rest of the Story is quickly told. Job's will was probated October 24, 1791, in Cumberland County, Virginia, leaving all to his two sons. (Will Bk. No. 2, P. 520). Jesse died June 1805. In his will probated July 22, 1805, he stated that his wife, Mary was to support his aged mother out of his estate. Of their twelve children only two remained in Virginia: Elizabeth Hoggett Thomas who married Francis Wilkinson of Buckingham Co., and Eleanor (Nelly) who married Elijah Glover and remained in Cumberland Co. The others migrated to Tennessee and beyond. Now their descendants have circled the globe. Bessie Thompson Jackson ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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Have you looked at the [Freedmans (not sure of the spelling)] Bureau Records? I'm not fimilar with them but I've heard of them and they may be of some help to you. Randy Kidd

Thanks so much for looking! Momcine

I looked in Buckingham Burials, Vol I,for your Mason and Beverly families, but do not find them. There are some Masons, but the names don't match yours. America, Henry, Lavinia, Louisa, Martha (Molloy) Martha Virginia, Nancy and Virginia. Any of these names familiar to your research? No listing for Beverly In Genealogical Records of B'ham Co., Va, by Whitley, there are 4 Beverlys listed. Elizabeth, Jonathon, Robert and William Elizabeth Beverly m. Zechariah Griffin 18 Sept. 1786. Wm. Fuqua, bondsman Robert Beverly, Esq., is listed as a testator of a will for Robin Brooke written 30 Sept 1778. Also mentined is that a Dr. Hopkins bought lots "in the new town of Beverly at Westlawn". The other 2 are listed in Tax Lists for 1800. None are identified as African Americans. The only Mason listed in this book is "Col. Mason" and only states that he was of the 15th Regiment in the Rev. War. Your work is impressive. Your Joseph and Sarah certainly moved around. Jane

There are several INGLE and CHASTAIN researchers who have made reference to Buckingham Co VA civil records. Is there a listing of what records exist from mid 1700's to about 1825? If so, where are the records located? Thanks, Lonnie

Thanks for the information on Robert Moore. That's my Robert. Are there any other Moore's listed. Thank you so much. Becky

Are you doing lookups? Momcine@AOL

Am trying to gather info about African American families in Buckingham COunty, including my MASON ancestors. Joseph MASON b 1786 m Sarah Unknown b 1797 in Buckingham County around 1811. Son WIlkinson was born 1812. Other names of children include: Anderson William Melvina Mary Jane Elizabeth I am stuck on Joseph and Sarah. Have not been able to find a marriage bond. I pick Joseph and Sarah up on 1830 & 40 census in Ohio. I believe I found him on the 1820 Botecourt. I know they were in Buckingham County from oral history and Sarah's obit which ofcourse doesn't list her maiden name. Any help appreciated. Momcine@AOL

I know that you are getting a lot of requests and it is much appreciated. Could you check for any ADAMS? More specifically, a Thomas Adams? Thanks. > -----Original Message----- > From: Alicegayle@aol.com [SMTP:Alicegayle@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 8:31 AM > To: VABUCKIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VABUCKIN-L] Buckingham Burials > > There is a Robert Moore listed, no dates, buried next to his wife, Jane > Moseley Moore, b. Nov. 7, 1789. Note says: Jane is known to be buried > here, > but her grave site is unknown. She is the daughter of Authur and Sally P. > Moseley." > > Arthur and Sally are also buried here. Authur died, Aug. 21, 1829 and > Sally > died 1859. Sally's maiden name was Perkins. > > All of these graves are located in the Moseley family at "Wheatland", on > highway 647 in Buckingham. > > Alicegayle@aol.com > > FYI: I am researching the Gormus and Rakes families of Buckingham and > Cumberland, VA > > > ==== VABUCKIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Buckingham County USGenWeb Homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vabuckin/bucknham.htm > >

Hello, For those who may be interested in this family, this came through on my CHAUDOIN list. Hope it helps someone on your list. Audrey Shields Hancock -----Original Message----- chaudoin-l@rootsweb.com <chaudoin-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [CHAUDOIN-L] Fw: GUERRANT-CHAUDOIN >Here is what I have: > >Descendants of Henri Guerin > > 1 Henri Guerin b: Abt. 1633 Anjou, FRA d: 1696 FRA > 2 Daniel Guerrant b: 5-Jan-1662/63 St. Nazaire, Saintonge, FRA d: Abt. 1729 >Cumberland Co., VA >.. +Marie L'Orange > 3 Daniel Guerrant b: Abt. 1700 >.. +Francoise L'Orange b: Abt. 1700 Manakin Town, Cumberland, VA d: Aft. 1769 >Manakin Town, Cumberland, VA > 4 Daniel Guerrant > 4 Francoise Guerrant > 4 Peter Guerrant > 3 Pierre [Peter] Guerrant > 3 Jean Guerrant > 3 Jane Guerrant > >Always optimistic--Dave >

Hard to believe, but there are absolutely no Adams listed in this book! The closest name listed is Bome Adoms, b. 1807 d. 1932/33 ??? This has got to be a misprint. This Bome Adoms lived to be a 125 years old????? It does say in a notation that the tombstone is hand-carved and difficult to read. He/She is buried at Centenary United Methodist Church on Highway 20. Next time I go to Buckingham, I'm going to have to check this out ! Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Alicegayle@aol.com Surnames I am researching are Gormus and Rakes in Buckingham and Cumberland County. <A HREF="http://www.expage.com/page/alicegaylespage">alicegaylespage at www.expage.com</A>

No ADAMS in Vol I

There are actually 3 Robertson family cemeteries listed. One is located on Highway 641 Another on Highway 655 Another on Highway 662 There is one Robinson family cemetery on Highway 640 and a Robinson family slave plot on the same highway. If you go to the Buckingham County Courthouse you can get a map of the area which will show you exactly where these Highways are located. I believe the map is free. Hope this helps, Alicegayle@aol.com Researching: Gormus and Rakes in Buckingham and Cumberland Counties.

Where exactly is the Robertson Family Cemetery? I'd like to visit it some time soon. Thanks, Howard R. Simkin simkinh@aol.com

There is a Robert Moore listed, no dates, buried next to his wife, Jane Moseley Moore, b. Nov. 7, 1789. Note says: Jane is known to be buried here, but her grave site is unknown. She is the daughter of Authur and Sally P. Moseley." Arthur and Sally are also buried here. Authur died, Aug. 21, 1829 and Sally died 1859. Sally's maiden name was Perkins. All of these graves are located in the Moseley family at "Wheatland", on highway 647 in Buckingham. Alicegayle@aol.com FYI: I am researching the Gormus and Rakes families of Buckingham and Cumberland, VA

Hi Alice, There is a Samuel T. Robertson, b. Aug. 2, 1873 and d. Sept. 10, 1936, buried at the Robertson Family Cemetery, on Highway 641. His wife was Martha Ellen Gowin Robertson, b. Dec 8, 1875, d. June 4, 1960. As a matter of fact, there appears to be several Robertson and Robinson Family Cemeteries in that area. FYI, I am researching the names Gormus and Rakes in Buckingham and Cumberland County. Alicegayle@aol.com

Thanks for trying to help me. We certainly have some families in common. I have to go now but I'll get back to you soon. Before I leave I want you to know Jacob Woodson,son of Capt Obadiah is buried at the homeplace in VA and has a marker at his grave. I've been there--in Appomatox Co. Goodnight

We're definitely on the same track with the West, woodsons and Jones, I've got to go now but I'll be back in touch later. thanks for listening. Elizabeth PS Yes I have the CDWest book too.

Annette. I'd be interested in knowing your connection with the Jones West and Woodsons. THey were talking about reprinting Woodsons and Their Connections but I don't believe it has been done. I'd like a copy too altho it won't answer many of my problems. Elizabeth

How nice you were to copy from the Whitley book. Yes, I have her book but I'm searching for info on Claiborne West before he m. Woodson. Also the Jones. Thomas had a son John who m. Elizabeth Walker. Who was she? Their dau. Elizabeth Jones m.Daniel Woodson. He died in Va but his wife Elizabeth moved to KY with her dau and son in law. Betsy and Claiborne West. The three of them all died in Christian Co. KY.