I am looking for the parents of John HELMS b:abt 1797 in VA. He married Rebecca DRUMMOND March 19, 1818 in Botetourt Co. I don't have proof as yet, but I think John's parents were the Rev. John HELMS and Elizabeth ?. In an obituary notice in "Herald of the Valley" newspaper dated July 23, 1821, it states that "the Rev. John Helms had been an active member of the Methodist church more than 30 years, and was the second member of that society in this (Fincastle) county; he has joined more than eight hundred couples in the holy state of matrimony". Can anyone tell me how to find information on that Methodist church? They may have information on the Rev. John HELMS and his family.) July 9, 1997 from [email protected] (Sheila Hellems Kuziak John E. Helms, editor and publisher, and who recently retired as postmaster of Morristown, was born in Knoxville on the 2d of August, 1857. His forefathers were of English stock, his ancestors having come to this country and settled in Frederick county, Virginia. His forebear, Rev. John Helms, was born in Winchester, Virginia, about 1740. He was a pioneer Methodist minister and is said to have been the first west of the Alleghany mountains. He settled in Fincastle, Virginia, and died in Botetourt county in 1821. The subject of this sketch was the son of John Edward and Margaret Lones Helms. His father was one of the most prominent men of his day. A native of Fincastle, Virginia, born in 1827, he came to Tennessee as a mere boy and located in Claiborne county. Later he removed to Knoxville, where he learned the printer's trade under E. G. Eastman, in the Knoxville Standard office. Completing his apprenticeship, he engaged in the newspaper business, publishing the Knoxville Plebian and other papers in t hat city before the Civil war. In 1873 he came to Morristown, purchasing The Morristown Gazette, in the conduct of which he was active until a short time before his demise. He was principal clerk of the Tennessee state senate in 1874 and 1876; was secret ary of the first railroad commission in this state; was a member of the Tennessee Historical Society and president of the Tennessee Press Association. Mr. Helms was postmaster of Knoxville one term prior to the Civil war. He was a veteran of the Mexican war. One of his brothers, Rev. William S. Helms, served as a chaplain in the Confederate army. Mr. Helms was prominent in fraternal circles and had the distinction of being the first man to be initiated into the Independent Order of Odd Fellows in East Tennessee. In Knoxville was celebrated the marriage of Mr. and Mrs. Helms. Mrs. Helms was born and reared in Knox county, a member of one of the pioneer families of this section of the state. To the union of Mr. and Mrs. Helms eight children were born, four sons and four daughters, two sons and four daughters living, John E. being the fourth in order of birth.( Tennessee The Volunteer State Vol 4, http://208.209.185.4/plweb-cgi/glcsearch.cgi) -----Original Message----- From: Sarah S. Fitzgerald [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 5:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Jacob & John Helms I believe that Jacob Helms from Botetourt county Virginia was the son of Rev. John Helms. Jacob went to Tazewell co VA and on to Russell County VA, then to Floyd Co. Ky and in about 1841 went to Texas where he died in 1858. Jacob married Nancy Peery, date unknown (probably about 1803 or so) and their daughter Margaret married Hugh S. Bailey 1 October 1833 in Prestonburg, Floyd Co. KY. John Helms was performing marriages in Botetourt Count Virginia in the early 1800. Need to know if he died there and if there is a will for him naming his son Jacob Helms. Thank You Sarah Fitzgerald [email protected] ______________________________

This may be a clue. Helms, Frances dec 16 Nov 1820 report in "Herald of the Valley" 20 Nov 1820 widow of Col. Meredith Helms. Helms, Leonard b @ 1751 d 23 Dec 1828 Remarks: Rev. War pensioner see 1835 Pension roll, Va section 44 Helms, John Rev. b near Winchester d 15 July 1821 Fincastle Co. Ref. "Herald of the Valley" 23 July 1821 (BCVA) Will book C p 359 , appraisal Source: Botetourt County, VA Deaths by Charles Burton. Rena Worthen [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/floydmontgomeryheritage/index.htm http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Butt, Tom" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 9:51 AM Subject: [VABOTETO-L] RE: Jacob & John Helms > I am looking for the parents of John HELMS b:abt 1797 in VA. He married > Rebecca DRUMMOND March 19, 1818 in Botetourt Co. I don't have proof as > yet, but I think John's parents were the Rev. John HELMS and Elizabeth > ?. In an obituary notice in "Herald of the Valley" newspaper dated July > 23, 1821, it states that "the Rev. John Helms had been an active member > of the Methodist church more than 30 years, and was the second member of > that society in this (Fincastle) county; he has joined more than eight > hundred couples in the holy state of matrimony". Can anyone tell me how > to find information on that Methodist church? They may have information > on the Rev. John HELMS and his family.) July 9, 1997 from [email protected] > (Sheila Hellems Kuziak > > John E. Helms, editor and publisher, and who recently retired as > postmaster of Morristown, was born in Knoxville on the 2d of August, > 1857. His forefathers were of English stock, his ancestors having come > to this country and settled in Frederick county, Virginia. His forebear, > Rev. John Helms, was born in Winchester, Virginia, about 1740. He was a > pioneer Methodist minister and is said to have been the first west of > the Alleghany mountains. He settled in Fincastle, Virginia, and died in > Botetourt county in 1821. The subject of this sketch was the son of John > Edward and Margaret Lones Helms. His father was one of the most > prominent men of his day. A native of Fincastle, Virginia, born in 1827, > he came to Tennessee as a mere boy and located in Claiborne county. > Later he removed to Knoxville, where he learned the printer's trade > under E. G. Eastman, in the Knoxville Standard office. Completing his > apprenticeship, he engaged in the newspaper business, publishing the > Knoxville Plebian and other papers in t hat city before the Civil war. > In 1873 he came to Morristown, purchasing The Morristown Gazette, in the > conduct of which he was active until a short time before his demise. He > was principal clerk of the Tennessee state senate in 1874 and 1876; was > secret ary of the first railroad commission in this state; was a member > of the Tennessee Historical Society and president of the Tennessee Press > Association. Mr. Helms was postmaster of Knoxville one term prior to the > Civil war. He was a veteran of the Mexican war. One of his brothers, > Rev. William S. Helms, served as a chaplain in the Confederate army. Mr. > Helms was prominent in fraternal circles and had the distinction of > being the first man to be initiated into the Independent Order of Odd > Fellows in East Tennessee. In Knoxville was celebrated the marriage of > Mr. and Mrs. Helms. Mrs. Helms was born and reared in Knox county, a > member of one of the pioneer families of this section of the state. To > the union of Mr. and Mrs. Helms eight children were born, four sons and > four daughters, two sons and four daughters living, John E. being the > fourth in order of birth.( Tennessee The Volunteer State Vol 4, > http://208.209.185.4/plweb-cgi/glcsearch.cgi) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sarah S. Fitzgerald [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 5:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Jacob & John Helms > > I believe that Jacob Helms from Botetourt county Virginia was the son of > Rev. John Helms. Jacob went to Tazewell co VA and on to Russell County > VA, then to Floyd Co. Ky and in about 1841 went to Texas where he died > in 1858. Jacob married Nancy Peery, date unknown (probably about 1803 or > so) and their daughter Margaret married Hugh S. Bailey 1 October 1833 in > Prestonburg, Floyd Co. KY. > > John Helms was performing marriages in Botetourt Count Virginia in the > early 1800. Need to know if he died there and if there is a will for him > naming his son Jacob Helms. > Thank You > Sarah Fitzgerald > [email protected] > > ______________________________ > > > > ==== VABOTETO Mailing List ==== > The VAGenWeb's Surname Register is located at URL: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaunknow/vasurnam.htm >