Folks, I am down to this... Grasping at straws, it seems William Haynie CRAWFORD, the Presbyterian preacher who was in Tennesee, but who was briefly in Craig County, could well have been an uncle (according to a researcher) of Paulina CRAWFORD. If so, Grief CRAWFORD would appear to be, possibly, a brother to William. Or something like that. If so, that puts Grief in a position to be related to John Montgomery CRAWFORD of Craigs Creek. Since Craig County was not even invented until 1851, it would appear the likely candidate is Botetourt? That is where Paulina is from, anyway! Does anyone have info on JMC? Thanks, Vince

find Grief Crawford in 1840 and 1850 Botetourt census, I think you have the 1850 and 1840 only lists head of household 1880 Census, Amsterdam, Botetourt, VA Greif (sic) Crawford head 82 wd VA VA VA Minerva Snider 16 s George Crawford g'son 14 s Virginia Marriages, 1740-1850 GRIEF CRAWFORD NANCY SHORT 22 Jul 1819 Pittsylvania

Thank you very much. Vince ":O)> On 10/21/07, Jaymee Jenkins <jjandtjenkins@embarqmail.com> wrote: > find Grief Crawford in 1840 and 1850 Botetourt census, I think you have the 1850 and 1840 only lists head of household > > 1880 Census, Amsterdam, Botetourt, VA > Greif (sic) Crawford head 82 wd VA VA VA > Minerva Snider 16 s > George Crawford g'son 14 s > > Virginia Marriages, 1740-1850 > GRIEF CRAWFORD NANCY SHORT 22 Jul 1819 Pittsylvania > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The Second Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VABOTETO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Vince, remember me - Gerre Engard Byrd????? It's good to see you working on the Botetourt site. A related group of ENGARDS spelled ENGART migrated from Phila. to Botetourt Co. abt 1800. One of the ENGARTS married a SNIDER. Mary ENGART married John SNIDER 1831 Botetourt Co. I've never been able to develop John's line backward. Thought perhaps the SNIDER line came from around the Philadelpia area. Also, on my mother's side, I have a CRAWFORD line. John CRAWFORD from Ayrshire, SCOTLAND was the immigrant. One Judith CRAWFORD married into the TERRY line. Judith's line was out of New Kent Co. & Amherst Co., VA. If I can help, let me know. Gerre