I wonder if Worrell in "Early Marriages, Wills, and Some Revolutionary War Records of Botetourt Co." makes any mention of the William INGLEs who was in a company from Botetourt Co which was ambused by Indians while he was proceeding with other troops to fight in the Revolutionary War? If there is information in some other source, would you please direct me to it? The Battle of McMechen Narrows on 27 Sep 1777 is not officially considered part of the American Revolution for some reason. The participants, 18 of whom died in battle, listed in a petition for reimbursement dated 2 Nov 1778, included these men. Lt. Anthony Miller, Ens. David Wilson, Capt. William Forman, James Green, John Wilson, Jacob Pew (Pugh), Isaac Harris, Robert McGrew, Elisha Shivers, Henry Riserm, Bartholomew Viney, John Vincent, Solomon Jones, William INGLE, Nathan Forman, Abraham Powell. Samuel Loury, Samuel Johnston, Edward Peterson, Benjamin Powell, Hambleton Forman. As this is a list of those applying for reimbursement, I presume these are all survivors. Wiliam INGLE was enlisted in Botetourt Co VA. Thank you, WE SHARE ! Lonnie charles thomas dugan [1940-] - email << LCTDUGAN@aol.com >> born a thomas, adopted by a dugan my INGLE family is GGG grandmother, Catherine INGLE [1801-1887] born VA GGG grandfather, George Slater THOMAS [1798-1870] born VA GGGG grandmother?, Mary INGLE [1773-1850+] born PA All living together in Lee Co VA, 1850. Karen INGLE Langendorfer - email << KARENL@WILLAPABAY.ORG >> web pages << http://www.willapaby.org/~karenl/karen.html >> Karen's GG Grandfather, Elijah INGLE [1824-1905], born Ballerdsville, KY in Henry or Oldham Co KY was orphaned and raised by his uncle Nealey INGLE. Elijah's parents are most sought. Also searching any common ancestry which may hinge on a Henry INGLE [1761-1840+] of VA and KY, a Revolutionary War Veteran. Henry married first Sarah HANSON, 08 May 1793 in Fincastle, Botetourt Co VA and perhaps later a Polly WEBB, 15 Nov 1824 in KY. We we are finding some history for Henry INGLE [Sr.?] who may be child of a Wiliam David Ingle and a Margaret Hancock. Lonnie, 3G grandson of Virginia Pioneers

This marriage transcribed from Worrell, "Early Marriages, Wills, and Some Revolutionary War Records of Botetourt Co." Does anyone have information of the ancestors of either of these persons? Mathias INGLE and Barbara WEAVER, married 30 May 1787, in Botetourt Co VA. WE SHARE ! Lonnie charles thomas dugan [1940-] - email << LCTDUGAN@aol.com >> born a thomas, adopted by a dugan my INGLE family is GGG grandmother, Catherine INGLE [1801-1887] born VA GGG grandfather, George Slater THOMAS [1798-1870] born VA GGGG grandmother?, Mary INGLE [1773-1850+] born PA All living together in Lee Co VA, 1850. Karen INGLE Langendorfer - email << KARENL@WILLAPABAY.ORG >> web pages << http://www.willapaby.org/~karenl/karen.html >> Karen's GG Grandfather, Elijah INGLE [1824-1905], born Ballerdsville, KY in Henry or Oldham Co KY was orphaned and raised by his uncle Nealey INGLE. Elijah's parents are most sought. Also searching any common ancestry which may hinge on a Henry INGLE [1761-1840+] of VA and KY, a Revolutionary War Veteran. Henry married first Sarah HANSON, 08 May 1793 in Fincastle, Botetourt Co VA and perhaps later a Polly WEBB, 15 Nov 1824 in KY. We we are finding some history for Henry INGLE [Sr.?] who may be child of a Wiliam David Ingle and a Margaret Hancock. Lonnie, 3G grandson of Virginia Pioneers

Can anyone help Nanette? `How would I get information about the Botetourt Hotel in Buchanan, VA? `I believe relatives of mine (the Haney's) either owned or operated the `hotel in the 1860's. `Any help you give me would be greatly appreciated. `Thank you! `Nanette Richard `nrichard@worldnet.att.net

Looking for descendant information on the family of Thomas Powell and Rebecca Markham who were married in Bedford Co on Jan 8, 1803. Any info would be helpful. Thanks Brenda Marble BMarble@aol.com

Here is the fourth installment of names from my scrap book. Peter Baxter Hipes Ashby Hazel Finch Mamie Irene Wilhelm Leonard Woodson Winger Mary M Young R E L Austin Georgia A Nininger Buhrman Booze Rev. Thomas Rowson Morris Annie Radford Beale Lula John Crowder Ida Marie Firebaugh Otho Lewis Fringer Annie Goode Vines Haden B Austin Rev G H Broyles R L Goode Evelyn C Linkenhoker Maggie Bowman Vines Henry Brugh Ralph Garland Waid Herman Dennis Strickler Mattie Finch Walter Loop Willie H Firebaugh Robert D Shirley E-mail me for more information or the article on the name or names you are researching. Darryl Winger

Good Evening, I am hoping that someone can help me define which William Ingle from Botetourt County was killed at the Battle of McMechen Narrows on September 27, 1777. Was this the William Ingle that was the husband of Mary Hancock and the father of Henry Ingle and Michael Ingle? Any help would be greatly appreciate. Karen Ingle-Langendorfer karenl@willapabay.org http://willapabay.org/~karenl/karen.html

<< (LTucker972@aol.com) wrote:<<I just found that i have Samuel Lowman and his wife Lydia houff they lived in Augusta then moved to Botetetourt Co>> Linda: "Annals of Tazewell County Virginia from 1800-1922"; author John Newton Harmon; page 566 lists the following information: Mary Elizabeth Kahle married DAVID T. LOWMAN on June 6 1920. One daughter, Elizabeth Ann, b Mar10, 1925. "Annals of Southwest Virginia 1769-1800"; author Lewis Prestion Summers; Vol 1; page 218 lists the following information (excerpted):..."At a court continued and held for Botetourt County the 12th day of February, 1774. Present: Benjamin Hawkins, Wm. Fleming, Andw. Woods and John Robinson, Gent. Elobick Ross & Company, Plffs agst James Lawrence & James Lawrence, Defts In Dbt. This day came the parties & c. & also a Jury, towit: Charles Campbell, James Burnsides, John Murray, George Francisco, JACOB LOWMAN, William Mann.......(several others listed).....who retd. a verdt. in favor of the plff. Judgt. for one hundred pounds." Also in the above book: (pg 452) "March 14, 1793 JOHN LOWMAN appointed Seal Master for this County, succeeding Philip Spickard, deceased and (pg 453) April 10 1793 JOHN LOWMAN appointed Constable". Although I did not find a Samuel, it does show that Lowmans were an established family in this area. Hope the above helps in your search. Both of these books are available for purchase through the Tazewell Historical Society and at several other Genealogical Book Dealers. Gloria (RAGLADY@aol.com)

Samuel Lowman is my GGGgrandfather he married Lydia Houff. He lived in Augusta Co. Va. then went to Botetourt Co. Va. where he died . he was buried in the Lowman -Burks Cem. Located at Pound Bottom on Burks farm 5 miles S.E. of Eagle Rock according to a book on Cem. of Botetourt. It lists his birth as 1808 death as 1813 -----5years old his wife???????????? Lydia born 18 13 death as 1886-------their son Jacob was born 1783??????? Please would you have information on this? Their son was Abraham Lowman who married Elizabeth brodbeck (Brubeck) Linda

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I just found that i have Samuel Lowman and his wife Lydia houff they lived in Augusta then moved to Botetetourt Co. I'm told he is buried in the Lowman- Burks Cem. near Springwood Va. I have nothing on this family except he had a son Abraham Jacob Lowman. Anyone have any information on these families? Any cem. listings for this Cem. it might tell when he was born and died 1700??? Thanks Linda

Does anyone know if Barbara Brown Eakley is on-line, or how to contact her? She is the author of a new book on Bedford Co. Tracy J. Brown Tracy.Brown@eastmansoftware.com Weekends: TJBrownNH@aol.com (Descended from Joseph Brown of Bedford County, Va.) (Researching BROWN, DENT, LAWHORN, BANDY, WEST and other surnames)

Suzanne, The Godwin Cem. you mentioned is the Slicer-Godwin Cemetery in Fincastle. Email me and I will give you more specific directions to the cemetery. In the Foutz Cemetery, near Bonsack there is a John H. Crowder buried there. (5-15-1849 - 3-29-1918 In the Slicer-Godwin Cem., there is a Mary Susan Crowder buried there. (4-1837 - 12-27-1919) In the Zion's Hill Church Cem., off Rt. 655 and Rt. 681 there are several buried here: Mary E. Crowder 1856 - 1940 wife of William Crowder 1851 - 1920 Martha Jane Austin Crowder, wife of G.A., 9-28-1858 - 1-3-1913. Those are all the listings for Crowder in the Botetourt Co., Cemetery Book. Cindy In a message dated 98-04-08 01:23:12 EDT, you write: << ------------------ X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 14:22:14 -0500 From: "Suzanne" <suzanne@ethos.net> To: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980406192214.0068e568@ethos.net> Subject: CROWDER-DOWDY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am working on the Crowder family from Botetourt County. Several members of my family are buried in the Godwin Cemetery. Does anyone on this list know where this cemetery is located? I plan to go into Roanoke in July and I want to spend some days at that cemetery. Also looking for any decendants of Benjamin and Kate Dowdy. TIA, Suzanne >>

I am working on the Crowder family from Botetourt County. Several members of my family are buried in the Godwin Cemetery. Does anyone on this list know where this cemetery is located? I plan to go into Roanoke in July and I want to spend some days at that cemetery. Also looking for any decendants of Benjamin and Kate Dowdy. TIA, Suzanne

Please do not post messages to the list that are not concerned with Botetourt County genealogy, as occurred with the "Ann Landers" posting. If you see one and must reply, please keep it private and don't reply to the list. Thanks, Freddie S. owner-VABOTETO@lists.rootsweb.com

As a former middle school art teacher in Chesterfield County, Va. I have seen this project in our school and can see both sides of the aisle. So many adults think that children are embarrassed by their lineage or lack of lineage - or that they shouldn't have to discuss it - if a child truly feels that way I know no teacher who would make a child discuss something that would embarrass him/her. In my classes children talked openly about their adoption, divorce of their parents, illnesses and death, and many other topics just as normal conversation when they were working on projects. Many times I would join in one these discussions and we have discussed genealogy - as that was an interest of mine. As those of you with children in today's world are aware .... they know more than we ever did at their ages -- about almost any topic. I believe that the best way our children develop and learn to live with problems/worries is to be able to discuss them. The children with the most problems appear to be those who cannot discuss their problems "truthfully" with others and it eats at them - eventually showing up in some other form, behavior problems, etc.! Most of today's children are much more tolerant and caring of each others differences than earlier generations or than we adults give them credit for - possibly because they share of themselves more than we did. One of the most genuinly touching experiences that I had was discussing lineage with our head custodian, a gentlemanly black man. He said that they could trace their family back to the slave family on an early North Carolina farm. He said he wished he could go farther but that there were no records at which to look but they have family reunions every summer including all of the relatives of this former slave. The children understand this story and look at him with wonder ...... not because they felt sorry for him but because all of those people come from such great distances to celebrate what they have - not what they are missing. Maybe we should take note.

I did have a class in 9th grade called "Family Life" - covered some health and hygiene in San Diego, CA and it also covered learning about our family. We had to do a report and I remember taking the material out of my "baby book". Much was true, and some was false - now that I have been researching since 1974. This was, needless to say, many, many years ago. My granddaughter in the 6th grade in Spokane, WA did a report on her family for a class project. Here in Spokane, our local society and/or D.A.R. are invited to go to certain classes to give them a one hour (public relations mostly) review on doing family history. Some 5-6th grades and some high school. I think that this is as it should be - for they are NOT taught geography and precious little American History today - so prehaps this is one way that they will eventually have a more rounded education. I remember when college age adults were asked "where was Bosnia" - the answers were incredible and not one knew. They have not a clue as to geography or America History. Sad, tho, it may be. Bette ---- Visit my homepage: http://www.cet.com/~toppline/

She is entitled to her opinion. As a matter of fact, I agree that while methods of research may be an appropriate field of study, the results of those are personal and each individual's business; it has no place as a school project. Sincerly, Earl

---------- > From: JYoung6180 <JYoung6180@aol.com> > To: PADUTCH-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com; PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Ann Landers Column, April 5, critical of genealogical research > Date: Sunday, April 05, 1998 4:06 PM > > Did anyone besides me read Ann Landers' column in today's paper? She received > a letter from "Louisville Mom" who wrote to complain about the fact that her > children who were adopted from Korea were being asked in school to do a > project on family history. The Mom was expressing the opinion that schools > should keep out of such family information and should not be encouraging > children to look into their family backgrounds. She went on to say that some > children (those in foster care or from troubling family situations) may be > embarassed by such a project. Ann Landers' response was as follows: "I'm > glad you wrote. Your letter gives me an opportunity to speak out about family > trees, lineage and other topics that should have no place in our schools. It > is nobody's business whether a child's family came over on a slave ship or the > Mayflower. Teachers should not be asking about family background. If I had > to draw a picture of my family tree it would look like a shrub. My parents > and grandparents immigrated from Russia, and beyond that, I don't have a clue > as to my lineage, and I have never given it a moment's thought." > > Well guys--I think we should all clobber Ann with letters!!!!!! She obviously > is looking at a person's interest in their lineage as something that would > connote snobbery. She is implying that society would think there is something > inferior about the child whose parents arrived on the slave ship compared to > those with Mayflower ancestors. I think those who do not have a natural > curiosity about their family history (no matter what that history is) have the > misconception that those of us with an interest in genealogy do our research > out of some sort of desire to feel superior to others. (MY ancestors arrived > in 1727, just when did YOUR ancestors arrive--oh not until 1855--then I MUST > be superior to YOU!) I think we need to set Ann Landers straight as to WHY > we are interested in the pursuit of our family history--as well as the history > of the times our ancestors lived in in general. > > I can't remember when I have gotten this worked up about something I read in > an advice column in the newspaper but Ann Landers has clout--and is in a > position to impact on the thinking of others. Therefore, it is our > responsibility to correct this misstatement of fact. > > In the first place, schools should not, and DO not, mandate a family history > research project--at least they don't in New Jersey where I live. I would > assume a similar situation exists elsewhere. Students in New Jersey schools > are given a list of projects to chose from with family history research being > one of the choices (and even within this topic the children can chose to study > a famous person or anyone they choose--it does not have to be their own > ancestry). Family history reseearch is a popular choice from the list of > topics as curiosity about one's history is a natural thing for most people--no > matter what that history is concerned with, and regardless of whether that > history takes us to Colonial America, Europe, Asia, or Africa. The history is > still there--no matter WHERE your people came from! We all studied history in > school with each of us prefering an emphasis on the history that we were most > interested in based on our family and ethnic backgrounds--that is also natural > and even desirable. Are we so shallow and rooted only in the present day that > we do not even give a thought as to the accomplishments and sacrifices of our > ancestors? How can any student be expected to have an interest in, and > understanding of, history if they are not encouraged to associate those events > of long ago with thoughts of what it must have been like to have lived through > them--and with the knowledge of the fact that their own forbears did just > that. Whether it be the remarkable tribute to the strength of human character > that kept the slave families alive through the generations of our American > past, or the survival of the Jewish people in more recent times; or the > sacrifices made by my own German ancestors who set sail into the unknown in > the mid 1700s to come to a new home called Pennsylvania by means of a perilous > sea voyage. What was the driving force behind all of the actions of these > peoples? In my opinion it was to seek a better life for themselves and a hope > for the future of an even better life for their descendants. To take the time > to find out who these ancestors were, to learn their names, dates, and what > their lives were all about, is an extremely important part of teaching our > next generation of Americans, wherever they came from, and no matter what > their background, to have respect for themselves and those who came before > them. What better lesson could there ever be for today's, or any day's, > school children. > > OK--now I will get off my soapbox for today. Anyone who would like to copy > this to any other list has my complete unrestricted permission to do so! > > Joan Myers Young > > > > ==== STEWART Mailing List ==== > "My" Stewarts are described in "Oak Leaves A Family History of the Descendants of Daniel Stewart of Appin, Argyll, Scotland 1751-1819" > > > >

Subject: Cemetery Lookups Date: Sunday, April 05, 1998 1:07 PM I regret that i will be unable to do any more lookups for you . I will let you know if & When i'm feeling better. Rena at doreatr@rbnet.com