20 Aug 1998 - Julie at ... Julie.Lineberry@gte.net - tried several times to send you an e-mail regarding your response to my Botetourt County query on the James William Mills marriage of 1788. However, they keep bouncing back. Please contact me with another e-mail so that I may reply. Thank you. Edward E. Mills, edemills@aol.com

I am looking for information on the desendants of the following people. Bryan McDonald, born Abt. 1686; died 1757 in Botetourt County, Virginia. He was the son of Bryan McDonald or McDonnell and Jane Doyle. He married Catherine Priscilla Robinson 1715. Edward McDonald born. 1761 married Keziah Stephens 9 Sept 1786 in Montgomery Co. Thanks -- Stephen W. McDaniel 1432 Geology Building EM Facility, IGPP University of California Riverside, CA 92521 (909) 787-2998 mrmcd@ucrac1.ucr.edu (work) mrmcd@southwest.net (home)

I have extensive records of my ancestor, Peter Reilly's life in Huntingdon Co, PA. However, he died in Botetourt on July 14, 1812. I have no indication that he served in the War of 1812, but that thought certainly comes to me. He served in the Rev War and served afterwards in the militia for many years. - Was there military action in Botetourt during the War of 1812? - Does a list of casualties and/or military personnel exist for that War? - Are there suggested avenues that I might pursue to find out about Peter in Botetourt? TIA Barry Reilly

Suzanne : I paid $2.00 per copy for some documents. Mrs. Dottie Kessler, Researcher in the Clerk of the Court's office found them. The Botetourt County Historical Society was very helpful. There E-mail address is ehonts@aol.com Mrs. Emily Honts is past president, but still very active. Hope this helps. Their dues are $5.00 a year and they send you a great news letter. Frank VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Sender: VABOTETO-L-request@rootsweb.com > Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) > by arl-img-8.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.12) with ESMTP id RAA16075; > Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:18:49 -0400 (EDT) > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA27485; > Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT) > Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT) > Message-Id: <4.0.1.19980818160547.00dd75d0@mail.ethos.net> > X-Sender: suzanne@mail.ethos.net > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:26 +0000 > Old-To: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com > From: "Suzanne" <suzanne@ethos.net> > Subject: Crowder Help > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Resent-Message-ID: <"Tz65o.A.TsG.V-e21"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> > To: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/412 > X-Loop: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: VABOTETO-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Hi all, > > Does anyone know what the price of copying documents and the address of > Fincastle courthouse is? > > I am trying to find information on the Crowder-Kinder clan. I went to the > library today and came across some information that has me very confused. > Maybe someone can help me, I have always thought that Abel Crowders' father > was Peter Crowder-Kinder...but today I found that his fathers name was > Abram. Does anyone have any information or maybe death records or maybe > marriage records that would tell the parents name. Abel Crowder married > Polly Shoemaker Dec 21 1810. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Suzanne > > searching for families in Virginia > > CROWDER, DAMEWOOD, DOWDY, POFF, WALTERS > > > > ==== VABOTETO Mailing List ==== > To signoff this list, send a message with ONLY the word unsubscribe > to: VABOTETO-L-request@rootsweb.com OR > to: VABOTETO-D-request@rootsweb.com IF in digest mode

Hi all, Does anyone know what the price of copying documents and the address of Fincastle courthouse is? I am trying to find information on the Crowder-Kinder clan. I went to the library today and came across some information that has me very confused. Maybe someone can help me, I have always thought that Abel Crowders' father was Peter Crowder-Kinder...but today I found that his fathers name was Abram. Does anyone have any information or maybe death records or maybe marriage records that would tell the parents name. Abel Crowder married Polly Shoemaker Dec 21 1810. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Suzanne searching for families in Virginia CROWDER, DAMEWOOD, DOWDY, POFF, WALTERS

Thanks to all for your help and suggestions for the request for info on the Montgomery's J. B. griff1221@aol.com

Hello, I am interested in the GISH families in the region before 1840. Espcially, I am interested in Matilda GISH. I saw one reference that the GISH families might have been Mennonite. If so, are there any Mennonite records in Botetourt Co.? Pat Smith Patricia Smith smithpat@iex.net

I've lost the info on the Simpson Surname. Can anyone provide the info that Debbie sent? Any other info on the Simpson's of Pittsylvania Co. would greatly be appreciated. Bill Simpson KSTATE 89@aol.com

Would any one have any information on the Montgomery's in Botetourt Co in mid to late 1700's? My ancestor was James Montgomery b 1774, Botetourt Co, VA and later settled in Rhea Co, TN c 1800 and died c 1844 in Rhea Co. He married Elizabeth Lowery.I do not know if they were married in VA or TN. I sure would like to find his parents. Any suggestions would be appreciated. J. B. griff1221@aol.com

I am looking for information on the Holston (Holstein)Family, Henry b 1720 d 1805(I have a copy of will) in Botetourt Co. He married Mersey McClure, they had eight children. (1) Stephen m Jane Looney-my gggggrandparents(2) Rachel(3)Sarah(4)Mary(5)Mersey(6)Elizabeth(7)Ruth(8)Henry anything would be appreciated. Jerry Grass

Hi List, Does anyone know if there is still a store in Clifton Forge called People's Store? My great uncle J. H. Barger worked there in the 1920s. Also, is there a website somewhere that might possibly have photos online of Clifton Forge? Thanks very much for any advice or help. Karen Miles-Mitchum darkwolf@usit.net

I have a 1822 marriage bond for George BOWER and Polly SULLYBARGER(Solenbarger, etc.). At the beginning it saids that George BOWER and Jacob KESSLER was bound to governor for the marriage. At the bottom it states, "Jacob Kesslar make oath the Polly was above the age of 21 years". Who is Jacob KESSLER and is her related to Polly or George? I did find a Jacob Kessler who was married to a Barbara BOWER (dau. of Philip Bower) in 1819. Is Barbara and George BOWER sister and brother? Why will Jacob sign for groom and bride? Where was Polly(Mary) parents? George BOWER and Jacob KESSLER later had land dealings together. Please, can someone help me. Debbie Bowers Johns at dejo@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

According to my mother, there is still a practice in those areas where preachers are rare and a circuit preacher comes around once a year or less. The couple will declare themselves and go ahead and live together until the preacher finally shows up. Then, they get married legally. This could be a couple of years or more if there was a change in preachers and the second was a while in being found. Diane Wrightsman wrote: > > Okay, Botetourt County experts - help me on this one. Here's the scenario: > > My 4th great-grandfather, John Wrightsman Sr, was an early settler in the > county. He married Christian(e) Coulter 29 Aug 1784. > > New (to me!) information from "Botetourt County, Virginia, Early Settlers" > has recorded "Christena" as his wife (on a deed) as early as 1780. > > Now, I know that an earlier wife with the name Christena is not impossible, > but it is not likely. > > My question is this: how common was it in this area and time for a man and > woman to live together as husband and wife without the "benefit of clergy?" > Something is nagging at my memory that it was actually quite common. > > If, indeed, they were not married, how is it that her name would have been > on the deed? > > Thanks for your help! > > Diane Wrightsman > > ==== VABOTETO Mailing List ==== > Planning a Family Reunion? Post your schedule at URL: > http://members.aol.com/camorrison/vareunio/reunion.htm

I added more Floyd County,Va. Marriage information and the Will of Issac Boothe in the Will section Also the family info of James Boothe and Katherine Lester which is in the Family Bible section. Check for this info in the site Below I am thinking of putting a Brick Wall Section/Lost,Misplaced & Found in my site. if anyone has comments Please contact me.Researching JEWELL, HATCHER, HOWARD, HALL, FARLEY, GRAHAM, BOOTHE, HICKLIN, GREEN, EPPERLY, FISHER, FURROW, BAXTER, BISHOP, COLLINS, CUNNINGHAM, SMITH, BOYER, TYNAN, THRASHER , COX, OBENCHAIN AKERS, ALTIZER, VANOVER doreatr@rbnet.com rena@genealogy.org http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798/index.html

Edward, Hi, I Don't know if you received the answer yet. So I'll give you what I found. Grooms book 1.MILLS,James& Sarah LEMAR 14 May 1788; min- Edward Crawford (Presby.) 2.MILLS, William & Sarah LEMAR 14 May 1788; b- Nicholas Welsh con- William LAMAR, brother who test. age of bride as over 21- 13May1788 wit- Alexander Wilson and William Crow copied from:Botetourt County Marriages, 1770-1853, volume 1, pg.211 Brides book 1.LEMAR, Sarah & James MILLS 14 May 1788; min- Edward Crawford (Presby.) 2. LEMAR, Sarah & William MILLS 14 May 1788; b- Nicholas Welsh con- William LAMAR, brother who test. age of bride as over 21- 13May1788 wit- Alexander Wilson and William Crow copied from:Botetourt County Marriages, 1770-1853, volume 2, pg.477 I found no listing in the brides book under surname LAMAR. Hope this helps, Donna -----Original Message----- From: EdEMills@aol.com <EdEMills@aol.com> To: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com <VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 1998 8:11 PM Subject: Request for Look-Up 10 Aug 1998 - Botetourt County - Request for Look-Up - William James Mills, or James William Mills, b. c 1760’s, married 14 May 1788, Botetourt County, VA, Sarah ___. The switch in the groom’s first and middle names is reflected in two separate documents, probably the marriage bond and the minister’s return. Request a look-up to verify surname of the bride... Lemar or Lemax or ___ and any other information that may be recorded with the bond. Thank you for your assistance. Edward E. Mills, P.O. Box 1447, Westford, MA 01886 edemills@aol.com ==== VABOTETO Mailing List ==== When replying to a posted message, make a conscious decision whether the reply should go to the list, or privately to the originator.

10 Aug 1998 - Botetourt County - Request for Look-Up - William James Mills, or James William Mills, b. c 1760’s, married 14 May 1788, Botetourt County, VA, Sarah ___. The switch in the groom’s first and middle names is reflected in two separate documents, probably the marriage bond and the minister’s return. Request a look-up to verify surname of the bride... Lemar or Lemax or ___ and any other information that may be recorded with the bond. Thank you for your assistance. Edward E. Mills, P.O. Box 1447, Westford, MA 01886 edemills@aol.com

How do you access a Mime message after you download it? My computer tells me that it can't access the message because it can't locate the path America.exe. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. Would like to have the Early Settlers and Simpson info off this message. Bill Simpson KSTATE 89@aol.com

Hi Debbie, Which Persinger is Isabella from? I have a Persinger in my Dudding family from Botetourt, Rebecca? I also have a Barbara or Barbary Bar or Bear that married that married a Hans Lionberger and these names were changed some with each generation . They were in Frederick co, VA, but came from PA and before that SWIT. wonder if there could be a connection? Maybe one of the Bars or Bears came to Botetourt?( maybe Indian name also!) Just thought I would throw this in for thought! Nancy in WV

I am looking for the children of James B. SIMPSON and Mary Jane WAGONER SIMPSON. James B. and Mary was married in 1843. They had at least 3 children, Rufus, Almira, and Henry. Where are their descendants today? James B. Simpson was my g-g-grandfather by his 2nd marriage to Ann Matilda HESLEP KELLY. Debbie Bowers Johns at dejo@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I am researching GEORGE(b. 1800 in Md) AND MARY M. SULLENBARGER BOWER(b.abt. 1803). There was at least 6 children according to 1850 Botetourt County census records: Mary S.(21), Philip(18), David(16), sarah(14), Barbara J.(11), and William L. (7). Please contact me if you are related to a Bower(s). I know only the family of William L.(my g-grandfather)His grandchildren added the (s) to the name. Where is the other children's families at? BOTETOURT COUNTY BOWER(S), WHERE ARE YOU? Debbie Bowers Johns at dejo@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com