Hello Neil, In response to your question regarding the use of tobacco as a medium of exchange, I offer the following from my own family history; PAYMENT FOR TRANSATLANTIC TRIP ABOARD THE SAILING SHIP "AGREEMENT" Be it known to all men by these present that I, John Faulkner of Hogg Pen Neck in the county of Kent in the province of Maryland, Cordwaynder, [A person who makes shoes from Cordovan leather or a shoe maker] in consideration of three-hundred pounds of tobacco, well and truly paid to me by Richard Fitzallen, the receipt whereof I do acknowledge by these present, have assigned unto Mr. Daniel Jennifer of St. Maries all my right title, interest claim and demands of and to all those lands and rights to land which are become due unto me for or by reason of the condition of Plan Facon [A french word - fashion, manner, style] of the right Honorable Ceceleus Baltimore, Lord Proprietary Of the province of Maryland, for the transportation of myself and Elizabeth, my wife, and Thomas, Francis, and John, my children, with Eliza Bloxom and Thomas Jones, my servants, into the said Province on or about the twenty-second day of January, 1665, And do hereby, for the considerations aforesaid, assign and make over all my rights, title, interest, claim and demands of, and to all the premises to the said Daniel Jennifer to the only proper use and behold of him, his heirs and assignees forever. As witness my hand and seal this nineteenth day of November, 1665. John Faulkner X /s/ Nicholas Pichard X /s/ Edmond Barton X =============================== macbd1 wrote: > Our ancestral Virginia frontiersmen and women in the mid-1700's were sometimes taxed in terms of 'pounds of tobacco.' I'm wondering whether our ancestors actually paid 'in tobacco' (barter) or whether they paid 'in cash' after they marketed their tobacco. If 'in cash' this payment was likely made in Spanish milled dollars (coins) from my study. > > I note within Chalkey's Chronicles many court entries of "Hemp Certificates: (then a list of names.)" Does anyone know what these entries mean? Were these possibly to certify certain ancestral farmers were qualified to market hemp, or did these 'certificates' possibly have something to do with the hemp quality or payments, I wonder. Hemp was used for manufacturing rope, was it used for other purposes such as for bags (like burlap) or other products in those days? > > Many court entries simply state: "Liquors rated." (No names.) I doubt the court was conducting anything like today's wine-tasting (rating) parties.... or, did this more likely have something to do with setting the 'tax-rate,' I wonder. Some of our frontier ancestors didn't like the government over-taxing liquor since this was a higher-priced 'value-added' product from corn -- which was much easier to transport to distant markets than grain or flour. There was a so-called 'Whiskey-Rebellion' in the early 1790's as many of you probably know. > > Can anyone shed more light on these topics? Understanding such entries helps us appreciate the lives and times of our ancestors, not just jotting down names. Responding to the list might be helpful to others but I welcome private responses as well. > > Neil McDonald > > ==== VABOTETO Mailing List ==== > PLEASE do not send MIME/Base 64 "encoded" attachments to the list.

Rena: Didn't realize there were that many. There are only a few HIVELYs out there! I have: John CALDWELL, married Mary HIVELY, 22-Oct-1804 John CALDWELL, married Anne HIVELY, 5-Sept-1816 (no more info) James HIVELY, married Francis HUFFMAN, 11-Sept-1818 John HIVELY, married Sally LAKE, 11-Jan-1820 Fanny HIVELY, married Peter CIRCLE, 28-Nov-1807 All this information from marriage records of Botetourt County. Thanks for any information ... does anyone connect? Rich in Nitro, West Virginia ============================================================ > -----Original Message----- > From: RENA WORTHEN [mailto:doreatr@rbnet.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 8:20 PM > To: RLHively > Cc: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: HIVELY, CALDWELL, CIRCLE, HUFFMAN surnames > > > Can we get some first names on your Huffman/Caldwell/Hiveley/Circle > families?? I am from Botetourt Co. There are too many to answer with a > blanket question.. Rena > > ---------- > From: RLHively <richhively@earth1.net> > To: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: HIVELY, CALDWELL, CIRCLE, HUFFMAN surnames > Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 8:01 PM > > Looking for information on these surnames that intermarried in the early > 1800's in Botetourt County, then seemed to disappear. > > Any information appreciated. > > Rich in Nitro, West Virginia > > > ==== VABOTETO Mailing List ==== > Remember to always post messages to: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com > even if you're subscribed in digest mode. > ALWAYS use an appropriate Subject: line (NOT starting with Re: ) >

Seeking info on: John Snider m.1831 Mary Engart in Botetourt Co and Jacob Snider m.1827 Catharine Fleager in Botetourt Co Thanks for any clues on their whereabouts, Richard R. Weber

Can we get some first names on your Huffman/Caldwell/Hiveley/Circle families?? I am from Botetourt Co. There are too many to answer with a blanket question.. Rena ---------- From: RLHively <richhively@earth1.net> To: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: HIVELY, CALDWELL, CIRCLE, HUFFMAN surnames Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 8:01 PM Looking for information on these surnames that intermarried in the early 1800's in Botetourt County, then seemed to disappear. Any information appreciated. Rich in Nitro, West Virginia ==== VABOTETO Mailing List ==== Remember to always post messages to: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com even if you're subscribed in digest mode. ALWAYS use an appropriate Subject: line (NOT starting with Re: )

Looking for information on these surnames that intermarried in the early 1800's in Botetourt County, then seemed to disappear. Any information appreciated. Rich in Nitro, West Virginia

Our ancestral Virginia frontiersmen and women in the mid-1700's were sometimes taxed in terms of 'pounds of tobacco.' I'm wondering whether our ancestors actually paid 'in tobacco' (barter) or whether they paid 'in cash' after they marketed their tobacco. If 'in cash' this payment was likely made in Spanish milled dollars (coins) from my study. I note within Chalkey's Chronicles many court entries of "Hemp Certificates: (then a list of names.)" Does anyone know what these entries mean? Were these possibly to certify certain ancestral farmers were qualified to market hemp, or did these 'certificates' possibly have something to do with the hemp quality or payments, I wonder. Hemp was used for manufacturing rope, was it used for other purposes such as for bags (like burlap) or other products in those days? Many court entries simply state: "Liquors rated." (No names.) I doubt the court was conducting anything like today's wine-tasting (rating) parties.... or, did this more likely have something to do with setting the 'tax-rate,' I wonder. Some of our frontier ancestors didn't like the government over-taxing liquor since this was a higher-priced 'value-added' product from corn -- which was much easier to transport to distant markets than grain or flour. There was a so-called 'Whiskey-Rebellion' in the early 1790's as many of you probably know. Can anyone shed more light on these topics? Understanding such entries helps us appreciate the lives and times of our ancestors, not just jotting down names. Responding to the list might be helpful to others but I welcome private responses as well. Neil McDonald

looking for a William Henry Kesler b. 1750 VA Rev. War Soldier, don't have a wife's name. Can anyone tell me about him and/or his Ancestry.

On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 10:56 PM EDT walnbrl@gate.net (Billie R. Lewis) wrote >>> In what state or territory? This was in response to my message - "Does anyone have access to the 1860 census schedules? If so, would you mind looking up Frederick TANNER, page 227' >>> This lookup request was for the 1860 Botetourt Co., Va. census, page 227. Sorry. Thank you, Maxine Crabtree ivytree29@aol.com

Has anyone on the list looked at the county booklet for Botetourt County - the Publick Claims booklets? I see them listed in the Iberian Publishing Co. Catalog for 1997. If someone happens to have this booklet for Botetourt Co. and is willing to do a lookup for me, please contact me privately. Thanks in advance. Joanne Joanne A. Smith Mello jomello@innercite.com

This reply is in reference to Nancy Szatkowski's post about ancestors being taken by indians. Do you know what tribe it was that took them? I have found a wonderful mailing list for the Cherokee Nations where you might be able to get some information if it was the Cherokee Tribe. The Url is: CherokeeGene-D@rootsweb.com Sincerely, Pat Ellison RESEARCHING: ELLISON, DOGAN, HANCOCK, PACE AND ORANGE

--WebTV-Mail-2085693613-637 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I just sent the attached URL and then I noticed that it is supposed to have an l added to the end of it like this: html instead of htm It is a free data base for the month of January only. Sorry I goofed. Betty --WebTV-Mail-2085693613-637 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.98) by postoffice-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:01:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <VABOTETO-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-101-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id RAA19942; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26562; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:44:37 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:44:37 -0800 (PST) From: densmom@webtv.net X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRyjomiPeo/XjixVnQ65BPsmAUVmwIVAIC+8Ne5qoUi8eAcbghNMzPKAJ8g Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:54:37 -0600 (CST) Old-To: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Soldiers in War of 1812 Message-ID: <12863-36A67ACD-922@mailtod-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <"ir7uaC.A.2eG.1hnp2"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/669 X-Loop: VABOTETO-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: VABOTETO-L-request@rootsweb.com I just received the following URL, and it is supposed to be good for only a month: http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/familytree/records/w1812/list/1,2824,,00.htm Betty ==== VABOTETO Mailing List ==== The VAGenWeb's QueryPage for the "Unknown County" is at URL: http://people.delphi.com/fspradlin/vaquery.htm --WebTV-Mail-2085693613-637--

I just received the following URL, and it is supposed to be good for only a month: http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/familytree/records/w1812/list/1,2824,,00.htm Betty

Does anyone have access to the 1860 census schedules? If so, would you mind looking up Frederick TANNER, page 227. Thank you, Maxine Crabtree ivytree29@aol.com

I have recently uncovered some more Minnich/Minnick facts to add to what I know in hopes that someone will see something that they are familiar with . CHARLES AUSTIN MINNICH Dec 22 1826 - October 22 1911 in Botetourt County married Catherine Susan Foster in Roanoke County Virginia This couple moved to giles county but they had the following children James William Minnich Joseph Winfield Minnich Mary Virginia Minnich (My great grandmother) Amanda Ann Minnich Samuel Wesley Minnich Sarah Elvira Minnich Hedrick Minnich I thank you in advance for your assistance and look forward to hearing from you soon. Alison Martin Brunow.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------28D3C05D939250A280351275 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi List Members! Just wanted my fellow list members to know about my new web site! I have only started a week ago, so please bare with me! I have many more families and info to add... If you have any links you would like added, just let me know. Comments and criticisms are welcome! Vicky Agee http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Farm/7184/index.html --------------28D3C05D939250A280351275 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Vicky Agee Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Vicky Agee n: Agee;Vicky org: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798/index.html adr;dom: ;;http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/files/cem2.htm ;;;; email;internet: r&vagee@swva.net note: Searching: Aul/All/Alls/Akers/Austin/Beckner/Brickey/Caldwell/Dove/East/Inge/Moses/Pace/Perdue/Smith/Shrewsbury/Thomason Agee/Barringer/Davis/Goodwin/Hylton/Pratt/Reed/Sowers/Slaughter/Webb x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------28D3C05D939250A280351275--

Wasn't sure if I had posted this or not. It so darn frustrating trying to track down these Jenkins. Elijah JENKINS b. 18 Feb 1770 Botetourt County, VA m. Elizabeth Myers 3 Nov 1792 in Clark Co., KY. Would love to find something out about his/their Virginia roots, parentage, etc. Could anyone help me connect or lead me to books, sources, etc? I promise I'll wash your feet in public first chance I get. VBG Sandra

Samuel RICHARDSON married Eliza Jane HAMPTON, daughter of Anna HOUSMAN and William B. HAMPTON, on 8 Sep 1857 in Botetourt County. After that, I have nothing on this family. Did Samuel die in the war? Did Samuel and Eliza Jane have any children? Another dead end line on my HOUSMANs that I'm trying to beef out... --jsl

Hi- I'm new to the list, and I'm looking for ARMSTRONG, originally from BOTETOURT Co., Va, moved to MERCER Co., KY. Rebecca ARMSTRONG (b. Botetourt Co) m. Abraham SHARP 3-22-1879 in Bedford Co., VA. Rebecca's father was William ARMSTRONG, m. Catherine? Rebecca & Abraham had 7 children: Catherine, Mary, William, Priscillla, John, Adam, Elizabeth,Jacob & Abraham, Jr. Rebecca, Catherine, Mary & William were kidnapped by Indians. Rebecca & Catherine were ransomed, William & Mary recaptured. Mary escaped to return to Indians. Interested in lineage of William & Catherine, and siblings of Rebecca. From where did this line originate? Any relatives out there? Thanks Nancy Sharp Szatkowski nszat@worldnet.att.net

I still have a problem with the dates on Susannah Obenchain that married William Obenshain. According to the Marriage Records in Fincastle Peter Ovenchain and Chrisiana Beckner were married December 24, 1822 and Susannah and William were married March 24, 1831. There is only a nine year span between their marriages. Are we sure that Peter and Chrisiana are Susannah's parents. I also have Susannah's birth date as November 18, 1813. Help!!!! Lynda

There were some AILS/ALLS (?) who were early settlers in Mason/Lewis County area of Ky, around 1800. Don't know if this is of use. BISHOP: I have quite a bit of information about John BISHOP who came over from England around 1630s and founded a dynasty of BISHOPS. Many of his descendants came down the trails into Virginia, Ky, etc. VIERS/VIARS/VOIERS/etc. I am searching for any pre 1776 info on Robert VOIERS/VIERS who was born somewhere in Virginia 5/3/1757, enlisted in the Botetort Militia during the Revolution, then drifted west with the front line of pioneers through what is now WV into Ky. I have been searching for years for his family. I am fairly certain he is not Robert VIA. The birthdates differ by several years and there is a listing of a Robert VIA as a soldier in a different regiment. Sue Bishop