This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/17.22.1 Message Board Post: Would you happen to know if there ever was a Fincastle County, in VA? I see this Fincastle, Botetourt Co., VA. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome

In a message dated 1/19/04 10:01:41 PM, [email protected] writes: << Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:12:30 -0600 From: "Marie Crossley" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [VABOTETO-L] Davis / Austin Line Looking for information on Mary Elizabeth Austin (f. William Austin m. Sarah Custer) who married John Davis (f. __________Davis m. Ellendor __________). John and Mary Elizabeth (Austin) Davis had two know children, George and (Ellen) Ella Davis. Ella married Robert Welch Graves and were Alabama a short time where a couple of their children were born. By 1900 they were in Baton Rouge, Louisiana; 1910 in New Oreleans were both lived out their lives. Any information on this line would be appreciated. I have pictures of Ella in her later years of life and of her children. Marie in Elmo, Texas >> Hello Marie The following is from "Related Families of Botetourt County Virginia" by J. William Austin II and Rebecca H R Austin, Roanoke, VA Oct 1977 pg 15. Like many of the things I quote from this book I caution that I have found errors so you should use this information as a guide. The books give the parents of John Davis as John and Ellender Davis b. 1815 ( I don't know if this means John or Ellender was born 1815). It also list them as the parents for William Davis who married Sarah Austin, sister to Mary E. Austin. I know this is a real long shot here but the George Davis, son of John and Mary E. Austin Davis wouldn't by chance be George Whitefield Davis who married Maria del Carman Delores Juaranta ATOCHA who was from New Orleans, LA who had ties to the Botetourt Co,. VA AMMEN line? I think your George would have been too young but it never hurts to ask. Name: William AUSTIN Birth: 1795 Father: Isaac AUSTIN Sr Mother: Mary Martha MALCOMB Marriage: 27 Apr 1824 Spouse: Sarah CUSTER Birth: 1802 Father: George CUSTER Mother: Margaret MYERS Children 1 F: Jane AUSTIN Birth: 1826 Spouse: James DODD Marriage: 20 Apr 1846 2 F: Catherine AUSTIN Birth: 1828 Spouse: Thomas MERRITT Marriage: 21 Nov 1847 3 F: Margaret AUSTIN Birth: 1829 Spouse: Jackson CRAWFORD Marriage: 17 May 1859 4 F: Sarah AUSTIN Birth: 1832 Spouse: William DAVIS Marriage: 6 Jan 1859 5 F: Cynthia AUSTIN Birth: 1839 Spouse: John CLARK Marriage: 29 Mar 1859 6 M: William H AUSTIN Birth: 1841 Spouse: Martha A BRICKLEY 7 F: Mary E AUSTIN-(twin to Elizabeth) Birth: 1843 Spouse: John DAVIS Marriage: 3 Oct 1867 8 F: Elizabeth AUSTIN- (twin to Mary E) Birth: 1843 9 M: Isaac AUSTIN Birth: 1835 Please report corrections or additions to... Karen Kessler Cottrill [email protected] Karen Kessler Cottrill WV Kessler/Kesler/Keslar Family Historian I am making no claims that the above information is correct and should not be posted as so. This is being given as personal information to be used for further research and not all has been documented.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1.7 Message Board Post: Dixie, Tis message was sent to me via the the board postings I mad for your benefit. Perhaps you might want to contact this gentleman named Ron? Linda _____________________________________________ Posting made byRon: ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Chattin To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [VABOTETO-L] Re: James & John McCreary 1830 Botetourt County census I have a James McCrery that owned property on Glade Creek. James sold the Galde Creek property to his brother Andrew H. and James moved to I think Kentucky. Deed book 13, Page 192, Botetourt County Circuit Court. The pages are difficult to read. Also, James had a son my the name of Daniel. In Deed Book 35, Page 580 Andrew H. sold the property to George Layman and Polly Layman and in to Priscilla Layman Gross and Thomas Gross. James McCrery was dead sometime around 29 July 183. In will book P, page 125. James McCrery purchased the land from Mary Preston Howard. Mary was married to John Howard and she was the sole owner after his death. James Howard obtained a Grant 1792 from David Goode, Pat. Bk. 28, 83. Another Grant in 1791 of 400 acres on Glade Creek, Pat. Bk. 25, 348. Also, check in Kegley's Va. Frontier by F.B. Kegley, Dated 1938. Lots of materail on Botetourt County, Va. RonChattin Roanoke, Virginia [email protected] _______________________________________________

----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Chattin To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [VABOTETO-L] Re: James & John McCreary 1830 Botetourt County census I have a James McCrery that owned property on Glade Creek. James sold the Galde Creek property to his brother Andrew H. and James moved to I think Kentucky. Deed book 13, Page 192, Botetourt County Circuit Court. The pages are difficult to read. Also, James had a son my the name of Daniel. In Deed Book 35, Page 580 Andrew H. sold the property to George Layman and Polly Layman and in to Priscilla Layman Gross and Thomas Gross. James McCrery was dead sometime around 29 July 183. In will book P, page 125. James McCrery purchased the land from Mary Preston Howard. Mary was married to John Howard and she was the sole owner after his death. James Howard obtained a Grant 1792 from David Goode, Pat. Bk. 28, 83. Another Grant in 1791 of 400 acres on Glade Creek, Pat. Bk. 25, 348. Also, check in Kegley's Va. Frontier by F.B. Kegley, Dated 1938. Lots of materail on Botetourt County, Va. RonChattin Roanoke, Virginia [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:22 PM Subject: [VABOTETO-L] Re: James & John McCreary 1830 Botetourt County census > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1.4 > > Message Board Post: > > Somethimes spelling is changed in names; might check on Harshbarger/Harshberger as there were several in the area of Botetourt County/ Botetourt last "big" county organized in 1770's from Augusta. > > Here is a bit more which may help: > > 1810 Census of botetourt County (now somewhat shrunken): > Page 640 > McCrery, Ja Sr, 21201-20101-0-1 white males 0-10, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45, over 45; white females( the same classif.)/free color/slaves > Page 641 > McCrery, James, 10101-02200-0-0 > > > > > ==== VABOTETO Mailing List ==== > The Botetourt Co, VAGenWeb site is located at URL > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaboteto/botetot.htm > >

This earlier message copied below of special interest. Henrich Ickes arrived on Queen Elizabeth 16 Sept 1738. 30 yrs. later in the 1790's his son Michael moves from York Co. PA to live near this same group of people. My theory, the two groups knew each other in the old country and probably there is also some family connection. I know that Pepper, Price and Wall were close neighbors of his in VA. Does the name Ekiss, Ickes or various spellings of each turn up in anyone's genealogy or the families of the ship landing 5 Sept.? Are the records of St. Peter's Evangelical Lutheraon Church for the 1790-1810 published? Thanks Barb Also, I have a poor copy of a photo of a stone marker in Virginia which reads: "SITE OF ST PETER'S EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH 1750 - 1885." "St Peter's Was The First Church West Of The Alleghenies And The Third Lutheran Church In Virginia. It's Original Members Were Pioneers Who, Having Suffered Religious Persecutions, Had Come From The Palatinate In Germany To Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, September 5, 1738, Thence To And Around The Horse Shoe Bottoms On New River. This Monument Erected in 19?? Is In Memory Of These Sturdy God-Fearing Pioneers. Richard Haeven (Haeyener), Philip Harless, Adam Harman, Jacob Harman, Valentine Harman, Jacob Harnberger, Israel Laurton, Samuel Pepper, Augustine Price, Henry Price, Jacob Shell, Adam Wall (Wail?)." A committee of four of the above was named, but barely readable.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wilson,Harrison,Helper Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/839.1 Message Board Post: My 3rd greatgrandmother was Marjory Margrey Wilson of Craig Creek,Botetourt co Virginia. She was born about 1790,her father John Wilson. She had brothers James,Thomas,Josiah John Jr. and sister Jane. Her brothers James and Thomas also married Harrison. Thomas married Lucy 11/18/1808, James Nancy 12/14/1809. Margrey grandfather was James Wilson grandmother Elizabeth Helper. There kids Josiah,John, Thomas,Jane,Jemima,Ellinor,and James.

Botetourt Co., VA Looking for information on Mary Elizabeth Austin (b. Botetourt Co., VA), (f. William Austin m. Sarah Custer) who married John Davis (f. __________Davis m. Ellendor __________). John and Mary Elizabeth (Austin) Davis had two know children, George and (Ellen) Ella Davis (b. 1867 in Botetourt co., VA). Ella married Robert Welch Graves and were Alabama a short time where a couple of their children were born. By 1900 they were in Baton Rouge, Louisiana; 1910 in New Oreleans were both lived out their lives.

Looking for information on Mary Elizabeth Austin (f. William Austin m. Sarah Custer) who married John Davis (f. __________Davis m. Ellendor __________). John and Mary Elizabeth (Austin) Davis had two know children, George and (Ellen) Ella Davis. Ella married Robert Welch Graves and were Alabama a short time where a couple of their children were born. By 1900 they were in Baton Rouge, Louisiana; 1910 in New Oreleans were both lived out their lives. Any information on this line would be appreciated. I have pictures of Ella in her later years of life and of her children. Marie in Elmo, Texas

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hardbarger, Painter, Harshbarger, Harles, Adams, Harman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1.6 Message Board Post: This may not be exactly on message for your John Hardbarger, but, the Quaker-Lutherans seemed to move together in those days. When I was researching the Robert (P) Stapleton family of PA and VA, who came to America and settled in Oley Township, Berks, Co. PA, among others of his faith. Among the many names affiliated with German/Dutch origins after being born in England, I recall the names Kelchner, Painter/Bender (Bender German for Painter), Harshbarger, along with Stableton, as a few who intermarried. They moved first to Augusta County, VA which eventually changed names to Shenandoah, Botetourt, Montgomery, and other counties. You know the spellings of all those names changed with each iteration, but most attach to one original name. In the case of your JOHN HARDBARGER, his kin could easily have been that of the Harshbarger who married Elizabeth Kelchner, dau. of Henry Kelchner, in 1793, Shenandoah Co. Also, I have a poor copy of a photo of a stone marker in Virginia which reads: "SITE OF ST PETER'S EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH 1750 - 1885." "St Peter's Was The First Church West Of The Alleghenies And The Third Lutheran Church In Virginia. It's Original Members Were Pioneers Who, Having Suffered Religious Persecutions, Had Come From The Palatinate In Germany To Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, September 5, 1738, Thence To And Around The Horse Shoe Bottoms On New River. This Monument Erected in 19?? Is In Memory Of These Sturdy God-Fearing Pioneers. Richard Haeven (Haeyener), Philip Harless, Adam Harman, Jacob Harman, Valentine Harman, Jacob Harnberger, Israel Laurton, Samuel Pepper, Augustine Price, Henry Price, Jacob Shell, Adam Wall (Wail?)." A committee of four of the above was named, but barely readable. Jacob Hornbarger was the wife of Elizabeth Stapleton. I have a bit of info about a Richard P. Harles and Anna M. Preiss (Price). The Phllip Harless on the marker was Johan Philip Harless. The old church was replaced with the present St. Michael's Lutheran Church, probably near Harles' burial place at Longshop, VA, along with Preiss and Agnes Hoffman.

I found this information in Burton's "Death records in Botetourt County" that might be helpful, Patte Wood Hardbarger, Henry (widower) - b Pa - d 10 May 1865 parents not known - cd old age rep by son John Hardbarger Hardbarger, William - b ca 1854 Bot Co - d 1 July 1854 - f John Hardbarger - m Susan - cd disentary - rep by father Harshbarger, Henry - b ca 1819 Bot Co - d 20 Aug 1865 Augusta Co age 46 years - f Jacob Harshbarger - m Elizabeth -cd pneumonia - rep by wife Frances GILMORE Harshbarger, Mary Eve - d by Dec 1802 - d by Dec 802 - Ref WB B p25 will dated 11 Apr 1799 - Ch Christley, Jacob, Samuel I also have a marriage of Jacob Harshbarger to Sarah Ammen, (d Michael and Catherine Ann Deardorf Ammen) 1814 in Botetourt. Ammen, Durst - d by Sep 1805 Bot Co - ref: WB B p111 - will dated 29 Apr 1805 - Wife Eve; Ch: Barbara (md Christian Herchbarger), Eve, David, Jacob (lame), Michael, John Frantz, Christian - d by Feb 1824 Bot Co - Ref WB C p540 547 560, will dated 23 June 1821 - wife [Anna]; Ch: 1 Michael, 2 Christian, 3 Mathias, 4 Barbara (md BASEHOAR), 5 Henry, 6 Magdalin (md Isaac GAIBY), 7 Elizabeth (md HARSHBARGER), 8 Anna (md WORTZ), 9 John 10 Susanna (WB G p 119 says son Mathias d about 1830) exrs Michael Frantz, Isaac Gaiby. Painter, Susan - b ca 1796 Bot Co -d 11 NOV 1868 BOT CO DEATH BK - AGE 72 Y - f Christian Harshbarger - m M - cd consumption - rep by hus John Painter [md 1819] On Sunday, January 18, 2004, at 01:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Hi Emma, > Do you have information on John and Elizabeth Hardbarger? I am > researching my great-greatgrandfather, Henry Isaac Hardbarger, born in > 1863. I am chasing down a Henry Hardbarger from Botetourt that may be > John and Elizabeth's son. I'm trying to determine if I'm on the right > track. My Henry ended up in Alleghany County (not all that far away). > Any information you may have would be helpful. > > Dixie Halber > > ______________________________X-Message: #2 > Date: 18 Jan 2004 09:54:57 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: [VABOTETO-L] Re: James & John McCreary 1830 Botetourt County > census > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Dixie, > > I have little info on John & Elizabeth (McCrery) Hardbarger. > > 'Botetourt co VA Marr 1770-1853, Vol 2:498' compiled by Vogt & > Kethley, c.1987. > - Elizabeth MCCREERY [sic] & John HARDBARGER > 12 Sep 1853; groom 33, a tanner & widower b. Botetourt > s Henry & Mary Hardbarger - bride 23 b. Botetourt Co. d. > John & Nancy McCreery age proved by Jacob G Moore min - Absalom > C. Dempsey 15 Sep 1853 > > On 1880 Census Roanoke Co VA there is a Jacob & Elizabeth Hardbarger > with a son Henry O. age 7. Maybe Jacob & John are one and the same. > You might look at that > census. > > Hope this is some help, > > Emma

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HARDBARGER Classification: Census Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1.5 Message Board Post: Reply from some research for your use: Census from 1790 to 1930 Harshbarger surname: HARDBARGER AB , (1810 US Census) VA, AUGUSTA, NO TWP LISTED, HARDBARGER ABRAHAM , (1820 US Census) VA, BROOKE, WELLSBURG, HARDBARGER HENRY , (1820 US Census) VA, BOTETOURT, NO TWP LISTED, HARDBARGER HENRY , (1860 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, SALEM P O, Age: 83, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER ISAAC , (1860 US Census) VA, ALLEGHANY, COVINGTON P O, Age: 36, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER JACOB , (1860 US Census) VA, BOTETOURT, NO TWP LISTED, Age: 13, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER JACOB , (1860 US Census) VA, RITCHIE, RITCHIE C H P O, Age: 30, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER JACOB , (1860 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, SALEM P O, Age: 25, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER JAS , (1860 US Census) VA, BEDFORD, DAVIS MILL P O, Age: 23, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER JOHN , (1860 US Census) VA, BOTETOURT, NO TWP LISTED, Age: 44, Male, White, Born: VA My notes: Family #275: John/44/Farmer/$1300(+)value Elizabeth/30/ Jacob/16/labor George/14/ Robinson/5/ John/3/ Frances/1/ All persons born in Virginia ------------------------------------------------------------------------ HARDBARGER NATHANIEL , (1860 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, SALEM P O, Age: 37, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER WASHN , (1860 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, SALEM P O, Age: 40, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER ALEXANDER , (1870 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, CATAWBA TWP, Age: 10, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER ELIZA , (1870 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, BIG LICK TWP, Age: 26, Female, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER ELIZABETH , (1870 US Census) -------------------------------------------------------- VA, ROANOKE, SALEM TWP, Age: 40, Female, White, Born: VA My notes: Family 146/147: Elizabeth/40/Keeping House/$700 Nancy/6/at Home Philips, Mary/29/at Home --------------------------------------------------------------- HARDBARGER GEORGE W , (1870 US Census) VA, BOTETOURT, FINCASTLE TWP, Age: 24, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER JACOB , (1870 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, CATAWBA TWP, Age: 41, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER JOHN , (1870 US Census) VA, BOTETOURT, AMSTERDAM TWP, Age: 13, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER NANCY , (1870 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, CATAWBA TWP, Age: 50, Female, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER ROBERT , (1870 US Census) VA, BOTETOURT, AMSTERDAM TWP, Age: 15, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER SARAH , (1870 US Census) VA, ALLEGHANY, CLIFTON TWP, Age: 36, Female, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER WASHINGTON , (1870 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, CATAWBA TWP, Age: 50, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER ALEX G , (1900 US Census) VA, ALLEGHANY, COVINGTON, Age: 39, Male, White, Born: IN HARDBARGER HENRY C , (1900 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, BIG LICK DIST, Age: 27, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER HIRAM , (1900 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, 2-WD ROANOKE, Age: 47, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER MARGARET E , (1900 US Census) VA, ROCKBRIDGE, KERRS CRK DIST, Age: 41, Female, White, HARDBARGER THOS W , (1900 US Census) VA, ROCKBRIDGE, KERRS CRK DIST, Age: 43, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER GEORGE W , (1910 US Census) VA, BOTETOURT, BUCHANAN, Age: 64, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER HENRY I , (1910 US Census) VA, ALLEGHANY, 2-WD COVINGTON, Age: 47, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER LINWOOD , (1910 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, CAVE SPRING, Age: 1, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER MARGARET C , (1910 US Census) VA, LUNENBURG, BROWNS STORE, Age: 20, Female, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER MARY E , (1910 US Census) VA, PITTSYLVANIA, 2-WD DANVILLE, Age: 51, Female, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER THOMAS W , (1910 US Census) VA, ROCKBRIDGE, KERRS CRK, Age: 52, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER WILLIAM J , (1910 US Census) VA, ROANOKE, BIG LICK, Age: 28, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER C JACOB , (1930 US Census) VA, ROCKBRIDGE, KERRS CRK DIST (SOUTH PART), Age: 40, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER GEORGE M , (1930 US Census) VA, BOTETOURT, BUCHANAN DIST (NORTHWEST PART), Age: 44, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER HENRY I , (1930 US Census) VA, ALLEGHANY, 1-WD COVINGTON, Age: 67, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER JOHN H , (1930 US Census) VA, BOTETOURT, BUCHANAN DIST (NORTHWEST PART), Age: 46, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER LORIE F , (1930 US Census) VA, ALLEGHANY, COVINGTON DIST (NORTHEAST PART, Age: 21, Female, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER THOMAS W , (1930 US Census) VA, ROCKBRIDGE, KERRS CRK DIST (SOUTH PART), Age: 72, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER T HARRY , (1930 US Census) VA, ROCKBRIDGE, KERRS CRK DIST (SOUTH PART), Age: 35, Male, White, Born: VA HARDBARGER WILLIE R , (1930 US Census) VA, BOTETOURT, BUCHANAN DIST (NORTHWEST PART), Age: 42, Male, White, Born: VA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Rockbridge Marriages: 1778-1850 (county formed in 1778 from Augusta and Botetourt Counties) lists taken from Lexington courthouse by author of the book, ROCKBRIDGE COUNTY VIRGINIA MARRIAGES 1778-1850. McCrery, William & Mary Ann King 1 Sept 1817; ward of James Thompson Min-Samuel Houston, Presbyterian McCrory, James M & Susan Hughs 4 Sep 1823; d John s William min-James Morrison, Presbyterian John & Margaret Walker 24 Nov 1801; d Alexander bond or license only McCreary, Rebecca & Lewis Ginger 7 Jun 1821; d Esther min-Samuel Houston, Presbyterian McCreary, Jpolly & Joseph Martin 4 Feb 1813; d Hugh s Lylla min-Samuel Houston, Presbyterian Hardbarger, Frederick & Catharine F Hughes 4 Dec 1850; d Thomas dec’t & Jane; Min-Andrew B Davidson, Presbyterian Hardbarger, William F & Adeline High 12 Feb 1848; d Sarah bond or license only Hardbarger, Elizabeth & William Hammand 1 Apr 1833; d ane dec’d’ min- Andrew B Davidson Hardbarger, Elizabeth G & Nimrod Bennington 1 June 1848; d Thomas; min-John Brown, Presbyterian Hardbarger, Elizabeth & John Campbell 1 Sept 1801; widow Frederick; min-James Harper, Assoc. Reform Hardbarger, Mary & John Speer 21 Feb 1792; d Frederick min-John Brown, Presbyterian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1.4 Message Board Post: Somethimes spelling is changed in names; might check on Harshbarger/Harshberger as there were several in the area of Botetourt County/ Botetourt last "big" county organized in 1770's from Augusta. Here is a bit more which may help: 1810 Census of botetourt County (now somewhat shrunken): Page 640 McCrery, Ja Sr, 21201-20101-0-1 white males 0-10, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45, over 45; white females( the same classif.)/free color/slaves Page 641 McCrery, James, 10101-02200-0-0

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HARDBARGAR/HARSHBARGER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Page 532 of will Book A , 1770-1801, Botetourt County. Inventory of estate of Solomon McCrery April 8,1800 by: Nicolas Carper, James McConall, Christian Harshberger Recorded: April, 1800 Teste: William Hite Dc Page 533 Appraisement of Estate of Micheal Solvenberger December 17, 1799 By: Samuel Harshberger, Jacob Gish, David Noftzinger Recorded: June, 1800 Teste: H. Bowyer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: JAMES/SMITH/LAUGHORN(e)/LAUGHLIN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1.2 Message Board Post: There is a John McCrery listed as a land owner in the 1815 Directory of Botetourt County Landowners for Boterourt County. He has two pieces of land listed as Deeded. Perhaps there may be a will out there as landowners are generally able to pass on their goods with having something more than debt1

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Dixie, I have little info on John & Elizabeth (McCrery) Hardbarger. 'Botetourt co VA Marr 1770-1853, Vol 2:498' compiled by Vogt & Kethley, c.1987. - Elizabeth MCCREERY [sic] & John HARDBARGER 12 Sep 1853; groom 33, a tanner & widower b. Botetourt s Henry & Mary Hardbarger - bride 23 b. Botetourt Co. d. John & Nancy McCreery age proved by Jacob G Moore min - Absalom C. Dempsey 15 Sep 1853 On 1880 Census Roanoke Co VA there is a Jacob & Elizabeth Hardbarger with a son Henry O. age 7. Maybe Jacob & John are one and the same. You might look at that census. Hope this is some help, Emma

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jack, Hardbarger, Drumheller, Halber, Bring, Widro Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GBC.2ACI/947.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Emma, Do you have information on John and Elizabeth Hardbarger? I am researching my great-greatgrandfather, Henry Isaac Hardbarger, born in 1863. I am chasing down a Henry Hardbarger from Botetourt that may be John and Elizabeth's son. I'm trying to determine if I'm on the right track. My Henry ended up in Alleghany County (not all that far away). Any information you may have would be helpful. Dixie Halber

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Davidson, Ingart, Engart Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/382.445.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have tried to E-mail you twice. I keep getting a message back that says something like, "cannot deliver message in 4 hours." Please E-mail ME, and I can then try to return some new information to you. Thanks! Bill Davidson

Hi List, John William Engles, b. abt 1773, Germany, married Hulda Stanley 1 Aug 1811, died bef Mar 1840 in Botetourt Cty. His wife, Hulda Stanley, daughter of Pleasant Stanley and Delphia Hunter was born abt 1793 in Bedford Cty, VA. Their children were John William Engles, Jr., Isaac, David, Sarah and Joseph. John William Engles, Jr., b. 1811 Botetourt Cty, married Mariah Johnston 8 Mar 1842 and they had 9 kids. Mariah and her children appear in the 1875 Coffeeville, KS census and John married 2nd wife Sarah Tinnel in 1873 in Roanoke, VA. Mariah died in 1886 in Coffeeville, KS. Is this gossip column stuff? Can anyone shed light on this? Or refer me to somewhere? I would like very much to share Engles info with someone. Bob Eckerman

Can anyone give me any information on the family of Emmett & Lizzie (CAMPBELL) LACKS, of Botetourt County. They were married there in 1903, and they had several children. When did they die? Thank you. Kathy Campbell Jacksonville, FL