This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dunn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/889.1 Message Board Post: Still looking for my William Dunn. Does anyone know anything about the William Dunn in Botetourt County in 1779-80 buying and selling land with Benjamin Allen, David May in Glade Creek area? Indenture relationship with Samuel Todd? Charged by Andrew Armstrong in suit?

Am searching for the ancestry of Henry Kybert/Kibert/Keibert/Caiberd, who married Mary Walker on 23 February 1832 in Botetourt County, VA. I don't have an age for Henry but Mary was born circa 1795. I am descended through Henry & Mary's daughter Margaret Kybert. On her marriage record to John N. Huffman, she is listed as Margaret Walker, carrying her mother's maiden name because of her grandfather's dislike for Mr. Kybert. John N. Huffman & Margaret Walker/Kybert Huffman are listed in the 1860 Census for Craig County, VA. Thank you in advance for any information. Sincerely, Mike Peters [email protected]

Lemme tell 'ya -- I've been to Botetourt three times (from Oklahoma), and have never been in a nicer, friendlier, easy-to-use courthouse, library, genealogy society building, etc. In addition, the little town of Fincastle is beautiful as are the surrounding towns and scenery. I hope I can get back there sometime! Thanks, Rena, for being there for us. Cousin Mary from OK Mary Virginia Bryant Park, Stillwater, OK WILLIAMS, BRYANT/BRIANT, ALDERSON, WINFREY, DODD, TURPIN, ADAMSON. All VA & TN

Come to Fincastle Library's first Genealogy Research Class! Rena Worthen, Founder and President of the Craig - Botetourt Genealogy Club, will teach you the basics of how to start tracing your roots. You'll get help deciding what part of the family to work on, where to find information about them, and learn basic computer skills that will make your research as fun and easy as possible. The first class will feature Courthouse research. Loretta Caldwell will speak to us about what can be found in the courthouse. She will provide a sketch of where material is located; give guidance on making our trip to the courthouse successful. Once you're done, you can make copies of what you've found for your all your friends and relatives. Family trees make great Christmas and birthday gifts, and you might just find you're related to someone famous! The first class will be held Wednesday, April 21, 2004 at 6:15 PM at Fincastle Library in Fincastle, VA Call Rena Worthen at 540-473-8339 for more details. Sign up here for these FREE classes. Rena Worthen [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/floydmontgomeryheritage/index.htm http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798

If you are interested in my Family Histories check my webpage Floyd R & Kathryn G. Mason 115 E. Rainbow Drive Bridgewater, VA 22812-1733 See our Web Page http://home.rica.net/masonf3150/ Phone 540-828-4617

My gggg grandfather John Harbison was believed to have born in Pennsylvania in or about 1747. He is believed to have a brother James, b. 1730, and Arthur, b. 1752. The family is believed to have migrated to Augusta County, VA. John Harbison is recorded in Chalkley's Journal as having been licensed to marry in Virginia on May 1, 1765. I am a descendent of Cynthia Harbison, born 1836, Indiana, m. Samuel B. Hamilton, June 17, 1856, Henderson County, Illinois We have found little information re the Harbison (James, John, and Arthur) brothers in Augusta County since May 1965. I suspect they were living in the portion of Augusta County which subsequently (1770) became Botetourt County; thus we turn to Botetourt County for information. I would appreciate any information anyone can provide on the Harbison family, including: a.. Parents of James, John, and Arthur; b.. The names of any brothers and sisters of James, John, and Arthur c.. Relatives of James, John, and Arthur; d.. First and last name of John Harbison's bride; e.. Where the family lived in Virginia; f.. When did the Harbisons move on to the Lincoln/Mercer/Boyle Counties area ; g.. Locations of any Harbison Cemeteries in Kentucky; h.. Dates and places of birth of John's children: i.. Elizabeth, b. August 18, 1766; j.. Eleanor, b. 1768; k.. Mary, b. 1769; l.. James, b. 1770; m.. Agnes, b.. 1771; n.. Rachel; b. 1774; o.. Ann, b. 1776; p.. John Jr., b 1778; q.. Immigration information on the Harbison's, including but not limited to r.. Ship(s) on which they arrived; s.. Residence before immigrating to the US; t.. Relation of James, John, and Arthur to any other Harbisons, if known; I would also appreciate learning of any references in which I might be able to obtain the above information. James, John, and Arthur are known to have finally settled in the Perryville (Lincoln County, Mercer County, and subsequently sectioned out as Boyle County) area. Other spellings which might be applicable include Harberson and Harbeson - and perhaps more. I would be delighted to particularly hear from other Harbison Family researchers who might have information relative to the arm of the family I am researching. Larry Milnes

Botetourt County was formed in 1770 from Augusta County. We are fortunate to have records intact from that time. NO FIRE has damaged our records. There are two genealogist on staff at the courthouse to aid in your research. Fincastle is the county seat of Botetourt County. The Fincastle Library was remodeled last year and expanded to include a Genealogy room. There are holdings in the room unique to any other Genealogy Room. Two being the Brugh Collection and the Kessler Collection. These were donated by researchers and only Fincastle library has them. The Craig-Botetourt Genealogy Club was founded by Rena Worthen in 2000 after completion of the Botetourt County Heritage Book. The group will also aid in your research. Their address is [email protected] The club will be giving free Genealogy Research Classes on the 3rd Wednesday of each month starting in April. The first speaker will tell us about Courthouse Research. She brings with her years of experience in first source research. Rena Worthen [email protected] www.geocities.com/genclub01 http://www.geocities.com/floydmontgomeryheritage/index.htm http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/1034 Message Board Post: There is a Williams family dna project being conducted by familytreedna. For more details go to www.familytreedna.com Click projects, click W, Click Williams. Fill out the form and your on your way to discovering your origins

Proposed Legislation Would Wreak Havoc for Genealogists and others, of course! A new bill before the U.S. Congress proposes to overturn one of the most fundamental concepts of the present copyright laws. If passed, facts would become copyrighted for the first time in U.S. history. The Database and Collections of Information Misappropriation Act (HR3261) would make it a crime for anyone to copy and redistribute a substantial portion of data collected by commercial database companies and list publishers. At first, that sounds like a good idea. However, a bit more thought shows that nobody would be able to republish stock quotes, historical health data, sports scores, or voter lists. In fact, a lot of genealogy information could not be republished. If passed, Google and all the other search engines would be crippled, probably driven out of business. These are online databases that collect information, or facts, from other online sites so that the user can quickly find the information they seek. If Google and the others are not allowed to collect facts that are now copyrighted, how will they be able to index the Web for you? Art Brodsky, spokesman for public advocacy group Public Knowledge, says the bill would let anyone drop a fact into a database or a collection of materials and claim monopoly rights to it. This would contradict the core principle of the Copyright Act, which states that mere information and ideas cannot be protected works. Let's say that a commercial genealogy service such as Ancestry.com or OneGreatFamily.com publishes the fact that your great-great-grandparents had a child named John. Once that "fact" has been published by any commercial service, that original publisher would hold the copyright on the fact, and no one else would be allowed to publish it again. The Family History Library, the New England Historic Genealogical Society, Genealogical Publishing Company, and others would be prohibited from publishing that information again in any of their online or printed works. In fact, private individuals would similarly be barred from publishing the information in their own derivative works. If a commercial site publishes a fact about your ancestors, you would not be able to place that fact on your own Web site or in any book or report that you give to others. The language in this proposed legislation contradicts the core principle of the present copyright acts, which state that mere information and ideas cannot be protected works. You can read more about this proposed legislation in Wired News at http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,62500,00.html

In the 1910 and 1920 censuses for Botetourt County, there is a couple named Andy and Ida TALLEY/TOLLEY. He is 30 in 1910, and she is 23. They have a daughter Virgie L. who is aged 3. Can anyone tell me if they know any more about this family, especially who their daughter, Virgie (called Virginia in 1920) may have married. In 1930, they are living in Alleghany County, and he is now called Andrew J. Virgie/Virginia is not there. Thanks. Kathy

In doing a search on this, here is what I found at this website. http://www.ala.org/ala/washoff/washnews/news2004/13mar08.htm Hope this helps. Cora Sue ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ALAWON ISSN 1069-7799 Volume 13, Number 13 8 March 2004 American Library Association Washington Office Newsline ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- In this issue:Alternative Database Protection Legislation Introduced ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- On March 2, following on the heels of the House Judiciary Committee's favorable referral of H.R. 3261, the Database and Collections of Information Misappropriation Act, the House Energy and Commerce Committee reported the Judiciary bill with "an unfavorable recommendation." Rep. Stearns (R-FL) and 18 co-sponsors then introduced a more narrow alternative version of database protection legislation, H.R. 3872, the Consumer Access to Information Act of 2004. Although H.R. 3261 was the result of years of negotiation, it continued to be opposed by libraries because it would fundamentally allow database producers to lock up facts. Rep. Stearns stated at the March 2 hearing that he opposed H.R. 3261 because the bill could lead to costly litigation and "put a chill on the use of information because of the fear of litigation." New Energy and Commerce Chairman Joe Barton, R-TX and ranking member John Dingell, D-MI, supported the bill and opposed H.R. 3261. H.R. 3872 narrowly defines the definition of misappropriation of a database and calls for Federal Trade Commission oversight and enforcement while prohibiting private parties the right to sue. The Committee approved the bill with no amendments. The introduction of H.R. 3872 is considered a positive political step by libraries and other opponents of database legislation because it continues to emphasize the fundamental rift between the stakeholders and will likely make it more difficult for any bill to pass this year. Libraries continue to maintain that any database legislation is unnecessary but are grateful to those Representatives who, recognizing the deep flaws in H.R. 3261, proposed an alternative. ACTION NEEDED: Anyone in a state whose representative co-sponsored H.R.3872 should thank their representative for voting against a favorable recommendation of H.R. 3261 and for attempting to develop an alternativein H.R. 3872. For the text of both bills, go to: http://thomas.loc.gov To contact the co-sponsors of H.R. 3872, go to Contact Congress at http://capwiz.com/ala CO-SPONSORS OF H.R. 3872: Mr. Stearns (R-FL) Ms. Schakowsky (D-IL) Mr. Boucher (D-VA) Mr. Upton (R-MI) Mr. Dingell (D-MI) Mr. Shadegg (R-AZ) Mr. Markey (D-AZ) Mr. Pickering (R-MS) Mr. Deutsch (D-FL) Mr. Terry (R-NE) Mr. Towns (D-NY) Mr. Issa (R-CA) Mr. Gordon (D-TN) Mr. Rush (D-IL) Ms. Eshoo (D-CA) Mr. Green (D-TX) Ms. McCarthy (D-MO) Ms. Solis (D-IL) Mr. Gonzalez (D-TX) \o/ The Lord Inhabits Praise

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LOONEY, CALDWELL, BAKER, BECKNER, YOUNG Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/155.165.309 Message Board Post: Jim, Nancy CALDWELL, last child of William CALDWELL and Priscilla LOONEY, was my 3rd great grandmother. Nancy was b. 19 Jan 1814; d. 19 Mar 1899. She m. John BAKER on 25 Mar 1834 in Botetourt. They had 13 children. I am descended from their daughter, Amanda Clementine BAKER who m. Ferdinand Luther "Nan" BECKNER. I have transcribed William CALDWELL's will. He names each of his children by name....all 19 of them!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CAldwell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/155.165.308 Message Board Post: Hello, I am a descendant of this line. Where can I find this book or a photocopy of it. I am willing to pay postage and cost to copy. Thank You!! Michelle Orr-Holbert daughter of Barbara Caldwell 5th great granddaugher of Archibald Caldwell. [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Austin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/1033 Message Board Post: Could someone look at the marriage records book for the probable years of 1866 -1867 and see if there is a marriage license listed for Andrew J. Austin and Athelinda Smith?? I have COPD, which is a lung disease, and cannot travel up there and go thru the old records because of dust and possible mold spores and I really, really need to find out who the parents of these 2 are listed as being. I'd deeply appreciate it if there's anyone out there willing to look for me.

Hi Judy, This is not my direct line but I do have some of the Ross' in my file dealing with Craig County. I checked Ancestry and found this: Hope it helps. Sandy Family Background assembled by Jessie Ross, while she was living in New Castle Virginia. Ross - means promontory. One of the early "Chief of the Ross" was Makintagert, meaning Son of the Priest. The family was scarcely less powerful and wealthy than the ruler. Some of the family were noblemen and married to ruling families. The Coat of Arms had on it three rampant lions. The Scottish name of Ross was derived from the residence of its bearers in the highland of Scotland, and the word Rose means a rising or headline Our forefathers brought to this country a name very ancient and honorable* It has been less than 900 years since the English people commonly had Surnames or family names. Just as Sunday School pupils know Adam, Eve, Joseph, David, John; so did the early English have but one name. Even as late as the last century did some of the countries pass laws forcing some of their people to have a family name . Names were originally selected in four general ways. 1st Something in connection with the sire as; John had a son(Johnson). 0' or Mc indicate "son of" 2nd. Some personal appearance or characteristic as Tall, Short, Red,Black 3rd. Location of the home. Ford (Bradford) Ross. 4th. Occupation such as Weaver, Bishop, Smith To be a priest meant having to be educated. Thrift, sobriety, strong will, courage, high ethical standards or religious standards seem to be some of the attributes of the early men to bear the name of Ross. The Ross ancestors came from the highlands of Scotland to America with the earliest English settlers. Among the early settlers were Thomas Ross on the James River before 1622 Virginia James and a Thomas in James City Virginia 1642 Alexander Ross of Virginia 1650 John Ross of Gloucester Co. Virginia 1652 William Ross of Northcumberland Co. Virginia 1654 Others were in Connecticut, Massachusetts and New Hampshire. The records of these &re only fragmentary. Sometime before 1687 one William Ross made his home in New Kent county, Virginia, where he left Issue of William, Lydia and Ruth Hugh Ross of Elizabeth City Virginia before 1690, was the father of Hugh, Francis, and William who settled in North Carolina George Ross of Balblair Scotland: in Delaware about 1703, and later resided in Pennsylvania, was the father of Margaret, John, Agnes, Ann and Jacob. By a second marriage, George Ross (signer of the Declaration of Independence) had James and five daughters. There were numerous emigrants later. John Ross 1706 Chester Pennsylvania. Alexander Ross, 1706 married Catherine Chambers, whose children were John, George, David, Mary, Catherine, Lydia and Albneathe. Thomas Ross settled in Bucks Co. Pennsylvania 1720, where he left two sons John and Thomas. It may be that sometime we shall be able to connect our Ross kin to those of even earlier settlers. The same names are with us as are among the Ross families of Pennsylvania Great grandfather James Ross Born March 23, 1779-Died Oct, 23 1862; born near Salem Virginia (near Roanoke), came to Sinking Creek Virginia about 1800, and married Jane (Jenny) Black July 16, 1806 (she died April 18, 1868), and established a home on what is now known as the William Po (Billy) Ross farm. They are buried in the Ross Cemetery. John Black and John Ross were security on the marriage bond for James Ross and Jane Black July 16, 1806 ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:33 PM Subject: [VABOTETO-L] John Ross Jr This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ROSS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/1032<http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/1032> Message Board Post: I am trying to find any information on John Ross Jr 's family born abt 1750 in Fermanough County, Ireland died After 1793 in Botetourt CO Virginia. John Jr married Mary MacDonald on Dec 11, 1777 in Botetourt CO Virginia. They had 6 sons and 4 daughter, they were: James Ross b. 1778, William Ross b. 1780, Edward Ross b. 1782, George Ross born 1784, Thomas Ross b. 1786, Robert Ross b. 1788, Susan Ross b. 1790, Mary Ross b. 1792, Jane Ross b. 1794 and Grizelda Ross b. 1796 all these children were born in Virginia. Any information on any of these children especially William Ross b. 1780 will be very help. Thanks Judy ==== VABOTETO Mailing List ==== The VAGenWeb's Surname Register is located at URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaunknow/vasurnam.htm<http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaunknow/vasurnam.htm>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ROSS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACI/1032 Message Board Post: I am trying to find any information on John Ross Jr 's family born abt 1750 in Fermanough County, Ireland died After 1793 in Botetourt CO Virginia. John Jr married Mary MacDonald on Dec 11, 1777 in Botetourt CO Virginia. They had 6 sons and 4 daughter, they were: James Ross b. 1778, William Ross b. 1780, Edward Ross b. 1782, George Ross born 1784, Thomas Ross b. 1786, Robert Ross b. 1788, Susan Ross b. 1790, Mary Ross b. 1792, Jane Ross b. 1794 and Grizelda Ross b. 1796 all these children were born in Virginia. Any information on any of these children especially William Ross b. 1780 will be very help. Thanks Judy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GBC.2ACI/1031 Message Board Post: Does anyone know if there is a list for the Colonial Baptist Church Cemetery, Blue Ridge. Thanks, Henry Webber Tulare, CA.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GBC.2ACI/1030 Message Board Post: Does anyone know if there is a list for the Colonial Baptist Church Cemetery, Blue Ridge. Thanks, Henry Webber Tulare, CA.

Rena: Is there any chance the films will be available for inter library loan? Thanks, Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rena Worthen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: [VABOTETO-L] Fincastle Herald 9-5-1895 > Here are some excerpts from > The Fincastle Herald 9-5-1895 > > > Died at her home on Glade Creek, August 22nd, Mrs. Charles Orange, who has > for months been a sufferer from consumption. Mrs Orange is mourned by a > large circle of friends and relatives. > > > Basket dinner at White Church > > The third Quarterly meeting of the Fincastle charge will be held at "White > Church" September 15th inst. Rev. B. F. Ball will preach at 11 a.m., and > there will be dinner on the grounds, then a sermon at 3 p.m. Rev. B. F. Ball > will preach in the Methodist church at Fincastle at 8 p.m. same day. The > quarterly comference will be held Monday, September the 16th. > > > Married > At the bride's residence near Lauderdale, August 29th, 1895, by Rev. W. Y. > Cline; Mr. Beda McFalls to Miss Ella Carter, all of this county. > > Hon. E. J. Brugh, Nominated for the House of Delegates. > > Mr. G. L. Hart, of Roanoke, visited friends in Fincastle Monday, having made > the trip on his wheel in one hour and 28 minutes. > > This is a sample of a paper that was donated by a Fincastle resident and > recently sent to the Library of Virginia by the Craig Botetourt Genealogy > Club to be filmed. This is in the second batch of papers collected and sent. > We have received our first shippment (The Buchanan News) back along with > film which will be housed at the Fincastle Library. It will be a great > addition to the Genealogy room at the Fincastle Library. > > http://www.mainstreetnewspapers.com/articles/2004/03/02/fincastle/news/news0 > 2.txt > > You may need to copy and paste this address in your brouser. It should end > with .txt underlined. > > Rena Worthen [email protected] > http://www.geocities.com/floydmontgomeryheritage/index.htm > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798 >

Here are some excerpts from The Fincastle Herald 9-5-1895 Died at her home on Glade Creek, August 22nd, Mrs. Charles Orange, who has for months been a sufferer from consumption. Mrs Orange is mourned by a large circle of friends and relatives. Basket dinner at White Church The third Quarterly meeting of the Fincastle charge will be held at "White Church" September 15th inst. Rev. B. F. Ball will preach at 11 a.m., and there will be dinner on the grounds, then a sermon at 3 p.m. Rev. B. F. Ball will preach in the Methodist church at Fincastle at 8 p.m. same day. The quarterly comference will be held Monday, September the 16th. Married At the bride's residence near Lauderdale, August 29th, 1895, by Rev. W. Y. Cline; Mr. Beda McFalls to Miss Ella Carter, all of this county. Hon. E. J. Brugh, Nominated for the House of Delegates. Mr. G. L. Hart, of Roanoke, visited friends in Fincastle Monday, having made the trip on his wheel in one hour and 28 minutes. This is a sample of a paper that was donated by a Fincastle resident and recently sent to the Library of Virginia by the Craig Botetourt Genealogy Club to be filmed. This is in the second batch of papers collected and sent. We have received our first shippment (The Buchanan News) back along with film which will be housed at the Fincastle Library. It will be a great addition to the Genealogy room at the Fincastle Library. http://www.mainstreetnewspapers.com/articles/2004/03/02/fincastle/news/news0 2.txt You may need to copy and paste this address in your brouser. It should end with .txt underlined. Rena Worthen [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/floydmontgomeryheritage/index.htm http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798