What I have been looking for is more information on that whole area, like the militia lists. They are the nearest thing to a census that many of us have to rely on. My person in Dunmore's War was a poor scrub farmer. I suspect his wife was Native American. I can't find her name. Their son married a woman of East Indian maternal ancestry and is referred to as Native American, and Melungeon. Their daughter married a Cherokee. Many of the traders had Indian families along with their white ones. Indian women told of the coming attacks on some of the forts because they loved their men inside. It was a very mixed culturally society in that area at that time. There were also escaped slaves that were taken in by the Indians who then assimilated into their culture. Some of us will never get their Native American families found working in that area, but we keep trying. Some of the Virginians went down to the North of Holston Settlements and demanded that everyone take an oath - I think it was to the state of VA or some such thing - well, many refused and were forced to leave the settlement. I think it was Richard Pearis who led them out and they went down to SC around Greeneville. After the war I think Pearis left the US. I don't remember if anyone went with him, but I bet they did, probably Loyalists. Some of those people came back up to NE TN. Loyalists were those loyal to King George and usually shop keepers and such. Tories were marauders who just operated outside of the law against everyone. Rebels were the winners and became patriots. There really is no way of figuring out for sure which was which without provincial records, because many were Rebels/Patriots and Loyalists, both. It depended whose "Ox was being gored" at the time. It also, depended how each poor scrub farmer's actions were perceived, and by whom. It was a civil war down there! I have found that many of the people in Upper East TN, Western NC, but not so much SW VA were in that time and place running from something. maybe birth circumstances, debt, the law for whatever reason...and this makes it so very difficult to find hide or hair of them. To compound things there was so much misunderstanding among the races. I can prove white and red and don't know about black, but the dna has not shown any. East Indians were perceived as Black, as were many Native Americans. There was slaughter on all sides. It was horrible and went on for a long time after the "end" of the Revolution. Read the Provincial and State Papers of the states that were formed out of the area. They will make your hair stand on end, but you will get the true story, not someone's conception of it. Please forgive my generalities. I am going from memory. I have read and re-read much of our miserable killing of each other trying to find my people, that what I have mostly remembered is movement and migration for tracking purposes. Jeanne jbass@digital.net wrote: > And you can imagine what happened to the slaves that helped him. Edwin > > slavery hate rhetoric - your imagine statement is pc proproganda. how about some proof instead of a pc rant. Wonder what happened to the white supporters of dunmore who likely were poor scrub farmers and not as valuable as the slaves. > > josephine > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: "Edwin \"Tex\" Irvin" <edwirvin@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Jan 23, 2008 4:06 PM >> To: vabedfor@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [VABEDFOR] Dunsmore's War >> >> I hope it was not me that was misunderstood. Perhaps I should have clarified it better. Of course, Dunsmore's war was against the Indians. He personally led half of an 1100 man force of militia, almost all southwest Virginians, against Shawnee Chief Cornstalk. Andrew Lewis commanded the other half. Some old historians, probably in error, believed Dunsmore was in secret alliance with the Shawnees to butcher the Virginians in an ambush, because the rebellion was brewing. Dunsmore did not personally get too close to the fighting. 75 Virginians were killed and 150 wounded. Immediately after the battle, Dunsmore treated with the Indians and let Cornstalk off the hook. Hence the conspiracy theories. A few years later, during the Rev. War, Cornstalk was captured and put in jail. The kin of many he had butchered broke into the jail and killed the old Indian who had slaughtered so many settlers. Before some of the militia had gotten home, the "shot heard round the world" >> was fired at Concord, and the rest is history. Dunsmore later evacuated Williamsburg and set up in Norfolk. He scrounged up an army of 600 British regulars, many tidewater tories, and forced slaves to fight with a promise of freedom. Bedford county and others raised the 1st Va. Militia regiment, commanded by Col. Patrick Henry and Capt. William Campbell, (Campbell county was named after him) late in 1775, and marched to Norfolk to deal with Dunsmore's shenanigans. Dunsmore was finally forced off the continent, and spent a few weeks on a ship in the harbor, before finally leaving for good, I think, in the summer of 1776. And you can imagine what happened to the slaves that helped him. 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