You said: "And then, to complicate it even more, there was a whole passel of Irvins just across the Blue Ridge. They married into the Logans and Doaks. I think most of them went to Kentucky or Indiana." There were some Ervins on the early personal property tax lists of Russell County, VA, and some of the other settlers there were from Halifax Co., VA: Wilsons and Lawsons, Boyds, among others. Starting with 1787, James Ervin in the Upper District of Russell. http://www.rootsweb.com/~varussel/census/index.html Michelle (Wilson) Ligon