This is at least a partial list of some of the Elders at the Hat Creek Presbyterian Church. I received it from a direct descendant of old John Irvine. She adds a note below. John Irvin 1742-1788 (Edwin's note--this John raised my Christopher) Capt Charles Cobbs Paulet Clark 1810-? 1855 Major Irvin (John's son)-1814 Capt John Marshall Capt Plubius Jones1810- Joshua Morris Capt William Smith 1810- Benjamin Chapman 1810- ( my note: MY 3rd great grandfather who's grandson married Sarah Fairfax Irvin) (not Edwin's note) William Armistead 1810- William Clark James Clark Matthew F. Irvin Dr Robert Smith - 1879 Orthodox Creed Clark -1900 Pleasant Clark 1855- Clement clark 1855- Plunis clark 1855-1892 Bolar Clark 1857- Bolar Clark -1871 Dr S. H. Hudnall 1876-1892 Albert Clark 1876- Albert L. C;lark -1871 Edwin's note--My gggg-grandfather, orphan Christopher Irvin, was raised by old John. We are still debating as to how they relate to one another. John may have been an uncle or great uncle? It is a work in progress. That is why I contribute to this forum. If I can help someone with their search, maybe someday they will uncover proof of who Christopher's father was. We feel certain he is the son of one of the Otter River Irvines. We just can't prove which one. There were several Christophers. Mine went to Wilkes county, Georgia, about 1793? Not the more famous Indian fighter Christopher who went to Kentucky with the Calloways. And Floyd, I see your Publius was an elder. We chat occasionally with the present day Reverend Hahnlen. He is writing a history of the Church. He has very little time, and is not in the best physical health, so try not to bury him with requests. But I am sure he will try to answer a few queries. Especially if you drive over there and attend Sunday services. Ha. Our little Irvine research group is trying to organize a get-together this September, at the Bedford Genealogy Fair. I, like many of you, have never set foot in Virginia, the cradle of my family. I am looking forward to coming, and I hope to meet some of you. Edwin