Tell us more about your Indian and Melungeon ancestors from NE Tenn and NC. Margaret Mabrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne M. Bornefeld" <jeanneb@fwi.com> To: <jbass@digital.net>; <vabedfor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [VABEDFOR] Dunsmore's War > What I have been looking for is more information on that whole area, > like the militia lists. They are the nearest thing to a census that many > of us have to rely on. My person in Dunmore's War was a poor scrub > farmer. I suspect his wife was Native American. I can't find her name. > Their son married a woman of East Indian maternal ancestry and is > referred to as Native American, and Melungeon. Their daughter married a > Cherokee. Many of the traders had Indian families along with their white > ones. Indian women told of the coming attacks on some of the forts > because they loved their men inside. It was a very mixed culturally > society in that area at that time. There were also escaped slaves that > were taken in by the Indians who then assimilated into their culture. > Some of us will never get their Native American families found working > in that area, but we keep trying. > > Some of the Virginians went down to the North of Holston Settlements and > demanded that everyone take an oath - I think it was to the state of VA > or some such thing - well, many refused and were forced to leave the > settlement. I think it was Richard Pearis who led them out and they went > down to SC around Greeneville. After the war I think Pearis left the US. > I don't remember if anyone went with him, but I bet they did, probably > Loyalists. Some of those people came back up to NE TN. Loyalists were > those loyal to King George and usually shop keepers and such. Tories > were marauders who just operated outside of the law against everyone. > Rebels were the winners and became patriots. There really is no way of > figuring out for sure which was which without provincial records, > because many were Rebels/Patriots and Loyalists, both. It depended whose > "Ox was being gored" at the time. It also, depended how each poor scrub > farmer's actions were perceived, and by whom. It was a civil war down > there! > > I have found that many of the people in Upper East TN, Western NC, but > not so much SW VA were in that time and place running from something. > maybe birth circumstances, debt, the law for whatever reason...and this > makes it so very difficult to find hide or hair of them. To compound > things there was so much misunderstanding among the races. I can prove > white and red and don't know about black, but the dna has not shown any. > East Indians were perceived as Black, as were many Native Americans. > There was slaughter on all sides. It was horrible and went on for a long > time after the "end" of the Revolution. Read the Provincial and State > Papers of the states that were formed out of the area. They will make > your hair stand on end, but you will get the true story, not someone's > conception of it. > > Please forgive my generalities. I am going from memory. I have read and > re-read much of our miserable killing of each other trying to find my > people, that what I have mostly remembered is movement and migration for > tracking purposes. Jeanne > > jbass@digital.net wrote: >> And you can imagine what happened to the slaves that helped him. >> Edwin >> >> slavery hate rhetoric - your imagine statement is pc proproganda. how >> about some proof instead of a pc rant. Wonder what happened to the white >> supporters of dunmore who likely were poor scrub farmers and not as >> valuable as the slaves. >> >> josephine >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: "Edwin \"Tex\" Irvin" <edwirvin@yahoo.com> >>> Sent: Jan 23, 2008 4:06 PM >>> To: vabedfor@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [VABEDFOR] Dunsmore's War >>> >>> I hope it was not me that was misunderstood. Perhaps I should have >>> clarified it better. Of course, Dunsmore's war was against the Indians. >>> He personally led half of an 1100 man force of militia, almost all >>> southwest Virginians, against Shawnee Chief Cornstalk. Andrew Lewis >>> commanded the other half. Some old historians, probably in error, >>> believed Dunsmore was in secret alliance with the Shawnees to butcher >>> the Virginians in an ambush, because the rebellion was brewing. >>> Dunsmore did not personally get too close to the fighting. 75 >>> Virginians were killed and 150 wounded. Immediately after the battle, >>> Dunsmore treated with the Indians and let Cornstalk off the hook. Hence >>> the conspiracy theories. A few years later, during the Rev. War, >>> Cornstalk was captured and put in jail. The kin of many he had >>> butchered broke into the jail and killed the old Indian who had >>> slaughtered so many settlers. Before some of the militia had gotten >>> home, the "shot heard round the world" >>> was fired at Concord, and the rest is history. Dunsmore later evacuated >>> Williamsburg and set up in Norfolk. He scrounged up an army of 600 >>> British regulars, many tidewater tories, and forced slaves to fight with >>> a promise of freedom. Bedford county and others raised the 1st Va. >>> Militia regiment, commanded by Col. Patrick Henry and Capt. William >>> Campbell, (Campbell county was named after him) late in 1775, and >>> marched to Norfolk to deal with Dunsmore's shenanigans. Dunsmore was >>> finally forced off the continent, and spent a few weeks on a ship in the >>> harbor, before finally leaving for good, I think, in the summer of 1776. >>> And you can imagine what happened to the slaves that helped him. >>> Edwin >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> To post to the list, email: VABEDFOR@rootsweb.com >>> To contact the list admin, email: VABEDFOR-admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> VABEDFOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> Josephine Lindsay Bass >> Confederate Southern American >> 216 Beach Park Lane >> Cape Canaveral, FL 32920 >> 321-206-6475 >> My Southern Family, >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/ >> Becky Bass Bonner >> Home of the *HARRISON* Repository >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~harrisonrep/ >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> To post to the list, email: VABEDFOR@rootsweb.com >> To contact the list admin, email: VABEDFOR-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VABEDFOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To post to the list, email: VABEDFOR@rootsweb.com > To contact the list admin, email: VABEDFOR-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VABEDFOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message