HEADRIGHTS Dominant form of Virginia grants until 1699. Origin was in The Greate Charter of 1618: “That for all persons…which…shall go into Virginia with the intent there to inhabite. If they continue there three years or dye after they are shipped there shall be a grant made of fifty acres for every person … which grants shall be made respectively to such persons…at whose charges the said persons going to inhabite in Virginia shall be transported…” Subsequent commissions to Royal Governors instructed them to follow the rules of the former company. These instructions were quite vague. For example, the earliest reads: “…50 acres of land for every person transported thither…until otherwise determined by His Majesty.” No restrictions on point of origin Immigrants merely had to enter Virginia. Persons claimed as headrights could have come from another colony as well as Europe or Africa. The first restriction on point of origin was a 1699 instruction to disallow negroes, and later a restriction to English citizens. No restrictions on age, gender, or race. Imported person had to survive 3 years (or die) before the headright became usable. Process for claiming headrights: · Claim importation at county court or Council & obtain a “certificate of entitlement” · Some of these are preserved in county court records · The certificate was used to obtain the warrant, thus predated the patent itself · No time limit imposed on use – a few were used 15-20 years after the fact Headright certificates were property and could be bought or sold · Certificates were commonly sold or traded · The person filing the patent may not have been the importer · Immigrants sometimes sold their own headright certificates · Value of 50 acres was generally less than cost of importation Misuse & corruption of the system increased over time, especially after about 1680: · Duplicate claims - clerks seldom checked for duplicates · Importation of the same person more than once · Temporary importations - ship’s captains often claimed the crew · Fictitious names & reuse of names sold by clerks – common practice by 1690s · Acquisition of large plots by speculators [The headright system was also used in Maryland, North Carolina, and South Carolina, though relatively few persons were claimed in the Carolinas.] TERMINOLOGY & OTHER GENEALOGICAL CLUES Residency Patents sometimes tell us where the patentee was living at the time. If not, we’d assume the patentee had been living on the land for a few years prior to the patent date – unless they were speculators. Citizenship Only an English citizen could own land, whether acquired by patent or purchase. Foreign- born residents became citizens by taking a loyalty oath. Before 1680, in Virginia, this required an act of the Council, which are preserved in Hening’s Statutes at Large. After 1680, the Governor could bestow citizenship, and those records are mostly missing. Age Patentees had to be 21. Males had to be 21 to sell land, make a will, sue or be sued, make a bond, or marry. Males aged 14 or more could own land, serve on juries (if a freeholder), choose a guardian, or witness documents. Seating & Planting Virginia patents required “seating and planting” within three years to perfect the title. This wasn’t defined until 1666, when the Assembly decided that “building a house and keeping a stock one whole yeare upon the land shall be accounted seating, and that clearing, tending and planting an acre of ground shall be accounted planting.” In theory, failure to seat or plant made the patent fair game for a subsequent patentee. In practice, the provision was often overlooked. Escheats When patentees died without heirs (or were convicted of a crime), the land was said to “escheat” and could be repatented by another person. Renewals Patents which lapsed by abandonment, failure to seat, or failure to pay quit rents could be patented, in whole or in part, by another person. Sometimes, however, land was repatented as a result of a sale of the land. Processioning Surveyors were appointed and not always competent. Inaccurate surveys caused many boundary disputes and lawsuits. In 1661 the Virginia Assembly required landowners to “goe in procession” once every four years to examine and agree upon the boundary lines of each tract. Responsibility was given to the parish vestries, which established precincts for the purpose. Selected landowners within each precinct plus two surveyors performed the task. Processioning occurred in the 50-day period after Easter from 1662-1691, thereafter in September-March. Processioning records, where they exist, verify ownership and neighbors. Acreage The acreage can be a rough clue to family size. One person could cultivate only about 50 acres, so grants larger than 100 acres usually meant male children or ownership of slaves or servants. Freeholders Only freeholders (normally a 50a minimum, but varied by county) were eligible to serve on juries, hold public office, or vote for Burgesses. Quit Rents Patents were technically long-term leases. A small annual rent was due to the Crown or Proprietor. If the land was sold, the new owner assumed the responsibility. In Virginia, only the 1704 lists of rent payers is preserved, but rent rolls also exist for other colonies. Some merchant accounts include references to rent payments. [No taxes were assessed on land.] Calendar Don’t forget to adjust for Julian dates. (Jan 1 – Mar 25 were actually in the prior year until 1752.)

LAND GRANT PROCESS “Patent” and “Grant” are used interchangeably. Some people like to refer to “patents” as colonial grants and to “grants” as state grants. TWO SOURCES OF COLONIAL GRANTS: · Proprietary Grants: Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, North & South Carolina, Maine, New Hampshire, Virginia’s Northern Neck. · Crown Grants: Virginia, Massachusetts, North Carolina after 1729, South Carolina after 1719. · Some other sources of land – e.g., leases from Indians – usually later formalized as patents. GENERAL PROCESS: Not all colonies followed precisely the same process, but patents generally involved several steps. These steps took time and money: · Entry − also called a claim, application, or petition. This involved marking the proposed boundaries and notifying the granting authority of the desire to claim the land. Generally a fee was required. · Waiting period – At some stage of the process, other claimants or neighbors could identify disputes (caveats). Some waiting periods were built-in, patents being processed in periodic batches rather than immediately after submission. · Warrant - An order by the granting authority entitling the land to be surveyed. Sometimes an order directly to the surveyor. · Survey – later called a plat. A fee was required to the surveyor. The survey was either copied into or attached to the final grant documents. · Patent - the formal issuance & recording of the title. Always recorded in a central location and often also at the county level. Generally several fees were required. As with nearly all old records, what exists today is a transcription of the patents rather than the original. Be alert for clerical errors. SOURCES FOR VIRGINIA PATENTS · Virginia colonial grants (both Crown and Northern Neck) are available online at http://www.lva.lib.va.us/dlp/land/ · Crown grants are available in abstracted form in Cavaliers and Pioneers. o 1623 to 1666 (Volume 1) First three volumes by Nell Marion Nugent o 1666 to 1695 (Volume 2 o 1695 to 1732 (Volume 3) o 1733 to 1774 (Volumes 4-7) by Dennis Ray Hudgins and The Virginia Genealogical Society. · Northern Neck Grants (between Potomac and Rappahannock) abstracted in Northern Neck, Virginia, Land Grants, by Gertrude E. Gray o 1694 to 1742 (Volume 1) o 1742 to 1775 (Volume 2) - Volumes 3 and 4 are state grants in the same geography o Earlier grants in Northern Neck Grants No. 1, 1690-1692 (Note that not all these grants were preserved. There are patents recorded in county books that do not exist in the colonial books. How many are missing is unknown.) · Several abstract books are organized by county – e.g. Early Virginia Families Along the James covers Henrico and Goochland counties. · Some online transcripts available at: http://www.ultranet.com/~deeds/pool.htm

SOUTHERN COLONIAL LAND GRANTS VIRGINIA COLONIAL GRANTS CROWN GRANT CHRONOLOGY: 1606 – 1616: London Company controlled land – Individual grants were promised but not actually made. 1616: London Company paid dividends of land at 50 acres/share. “Ancient planters” who arrived before 1616 received one share for their “personal adventure”. A few individuals also received land as compensation for services to the Company. 1617: Joint-stock grants authorized to private associations at 100a per share (many of these associations were called “Hundreds”) – 44 of these grants were made through 1625 to associations or individuals, perhaps half actually settled. The associations had authority to make their own internal grants. 1618: “The Greate Charter” proposed and adopted in 1618.[1] Several types of grants authorized, though only 184 were actually issued prior to dissolution of the company: · Shareholders: 100a/share plus a second 100a when first 100a was planted. · 100a to “Ancient Planters” (free of quitrent if transported at their own expense) and another 100a when first was planted. Half-shares to arrivals after 1616 (if transported at own expense). · Arrivals after 1618 promised 50a if transported at their own expense. 1624: London Company dissolved. Royal Governors were instructed to follow the rules of the “late company”. Former stockholders could still claim 100a per share. Some grants were made rewarding service to the company, and later the colony. 50 acres was still awarded for “every person transported thither”. 1625-1699: Essentially all Crown grants were headright patents (except for proprietary grants.) 1699-1776: Fee-simple (“treasury right”) grants allowed as of June 21, 1699 at five shillings per 50 acres, and quickly became the dominant form. Headright grants continued, but headrights were now limited to “His Majesty’s Christian subjects comeing to reside here”, and their volume declined dramatically after about 1715. NORTHERN NECK (between the Potomac and Rappahannock Rivers) was a special case. 1649 King Charles II gave the unclaimed lands in the Northern Neck to seven Proprietors. No grants were made by the Proprietors, but some grants continued to be made by the Crown. 1688 Culpeper, who had bought the rights to the Northern Neck charter, was granted an exclusive proprietorship by James II. He promptly died and Lord Fairfax inherited. Very few grants made until 1690. 1690 Fairfax began making grants under conditions similar to the Crown grants. The only differences were the absence of headrights and the “seating and planting” requirement. Minor Numbers of Patents: · Some Indian land was leased to white settlers, most later confirmed by patent. · Minor numbers of patents were allowed for certain frontier defenders. · French & Indian war veterans were given bounties, but not implemented until 1779. Edwin's note: The above makes it sound much simpler than it really was. The actual process was a trainwreck. Charles II granted huge tracts of land to his favorites at the Court, and much of this land was already claimed by someone else. Lord Fairfax inherited 5 million acres from his mother, I believe the daughter of Lord Culpepper. Seventeen year old George Washington surveyed much of the land for Fairfax. The claims and counterclaims were fought in various courtrooms for a hundred years, well into the 1800's. In fact, I recently saw reference to a case still pending in the Federal courts. (more to come)

Thanks, Sue: I have not seen the revised edition of the Brunswick book. I have the first one. If I buy anymore old books, my wife will kill me. I have many already. I just bought a scanner. Now, I have to learn how to use one. I am clueless with computers. If I get it figured out, I will post some excerpts on this forum that pertain to the old Brunswick/Lunenburg/Bedford area. Edwin

In a message dated 1/31/08 3:11:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, vabedfor-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:56:51 -0500 > From: Raymond Ryan <rwryan295@verizon.net> > Subject: [VABEDFOR] Correction - Franklin Co., Va. > To: VABEDFOR@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <019D81D4-77D0-48E5-BA72-7AF932839408@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > Based on what was recently posted, copied and pasted below, Franklin > Co., Va. was not formed in 1785. Rather it was formed from both > Bedford and Henry counties in 1786, based on an order of the > 'gentlemen justices' dated Nov. 29, 1785. Later a part of Patrick > Co., Va. was added which is reflected in the current configuration of > Franklin County. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edwin "Tex" Irvin" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:09 AM > Subject: [VABEDFOR] old County lines > > I'm sure this is old news to most of you, but I will post it anyway. > > 4-5 Formation of Counties of VA > from > Charles City County, est. 1634 > to > Franklin County, est. 1785 > To be completely correct from "Virginia Counties: Those resulting from Virginia Legislation" by Morgan P. Robinson, Franklin was formed in 1786 from Bedford and Henry and part of Patrick. The county was named after Benjamin Franklin Doug Burnett ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Edwin, there is also a second printing --"Brunswick County, Virginia, 1720-1975 Revised to 2000" by Gay Neal with material by Henry L. Mitchell, Jr. and Dr. W. m. Pritchett I didn't see any Irvines in there either, sorry. Dr. William M. Pritchett wrote the book "Civil War Soldiers from Brunswick County, Virginia" there are no Irvines listed -similar are Charles R. Irving, pg. 534 and a biti of a stretch- Frederick William Ivernizzi, pg. 539; any interest in either of these names I can send you the quotes. Stith listings in the CW book are too numerous to list here. Sue On Thu Jan 31 4:42 , 'Edwin \'Tex\' Irvin' sent: There is a book--"Brunswick County, Virginia, 1720-1975" by Gay Weeks Neale. This is a modern history book (1975) with footnotes and bibliographies and great appendices. It has a good index. This book deals mostly with the later, smaller Brunswick, that wound up east of Bedford. Particularly around the Meherrin River. But it has some goodies on very early families in that portion of Brunswick that became Bedford, Campbell, and Halifax. You may find it at a library or Amazon. If you "google" the title, under google books, they will give you a list of libraries that have it. There is a lot of info about the Stith family, and their kin. It lists the very early justices and clerks and sheriffs and surveyors. Militia lists, war rosters, land grants, etc. Many, many families are mentioned. It is worth a look. Sadly, my Irvines are not there. Edwin ---- Msg sent via CWNet - http://www.cwnet.com/

Does anyone know if the Bells tie in with the Bollings? I have a Powhatan Bolling Bell b abt 1800 in Buckingham Co., VA. The family tradition has been that there was a connection to Pocahontas. I just wondered if there was a connection. Thanks. Edith On Jan 31, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Drema Swader wrote: > > > Quoted from the book Pocahontas Descendants with Correction and > Additons > (by Stuart E. Brown, et al): > "Col. Robert and Ann Stith Bolling's descendants (seven children, > etc., > etc.) are sometimes referred to as "white" Bollings to distinguish > them > from the descendants of Colonel Robert and Jane Rolfe Bolling who, in > the same context, and because of their descendancy from Pocahontas, > are > sometimes referred to as "red" Bollings." > > Drema >

Good catch, Raymond. I mis-stated Robert Bolling as being the great-grandson of Pocahontas, when it was in fact his first wife, Jane Rolfe, who was the granddaughter of Pocahontas. Quoted from the book Pocahontas Descendants with Correction and Additons (by Stuart E. Brown, et al): "Col. Robert and Ann Stith Bolling's descendants (seven children, etc., etc.) are sometimes referred to as "white" Bollings to distinguish them from the descendants of Colonel Robert and Jane Rolfe Bolling who, in the same context, and because of their descendancy from Pocahontas, are sometimes referred to as "red" Bollings." Drema Raymond Ryan wrote: > In reply to the Bolling and Stith postings, the following is provided: > > Robert Bolling married Jane Rolfe abt. 1675 and they had a son, John > Bolling, who married Mary Kennon. This was the Pocahontas line, as > Jane Rolfe was her granddaughter. > > Ann Stith married Robert Bolling abt. 1681, and they had seven > children. Consequently Ann Stith is not a descendant of Pocahontas. > She was born 1665 in James City Co., Va. and died July 17, 1709 at > "Kippax," Prince George Co., Va., which has just been formed from > Charles City Co., Va. in 1703. Ann Stith was the daughter of John > Drury Stith and Jane Gregory. > > I close with a note that one should be careful when taking what has > been written in publications, in particular some of the books in > regard to the descendants of Pocahontas, as many of them are bogus. > There was but one son of Robert Bolling and Jane Rolfe, namely John > Bolling and he, in turn, had only one son, also named John Bolling. > This latter John Bolling married Elizabeth Blair and they had > thirteen children, seven sons, and six daughters. Their descendants > are the true descendants of Pocahontas. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To post to the list, email: VABEDFOR@rootsweb.com > To contact the list admin, email: VABEDFOR-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VABEDFOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

ATTENN: Robert Ryan: Do you have The Names & Birth Dates for <John Bolling & Elizabeth Blair's Thirteen Children THANKS CUZ A T <atpowelljr@aol.com> In reply to the Bolling and Stith postings, the following is provided: Robert Bolling married Jane Rolfe abt. 1675 and they had a son, John Bolling, who married Mary Kennon. This was the Pocahontas line, as Jane Rolfe was her granddaughter. Ann Stith married Robert Bolling abt. 1681, and they had seven children. Consequently Ann Stith is not a descendant of Pocahontas. She was born 1665 in James City Co., Va. and died July 17, 1709 at "Kippax," Prince George Co., Va., which has just been formed from Charles City Co., Va. in 1703. Ann Stith was the daughter of John Drury Stith and Jane Gregory. I close with a note that one should be careful when taking what has been written in publications, in particular some of the books in regard to the descendants of Pocahontas, as many of them are bogus. There was but one son of Robert Bolling and Jane Rolfe, namely John Bolling and he, in turn, had only one son, also named John Bolling. This latter John Bolling married Elizabeth Blair and they had thirteen children, seven sons, and six daughters. Their descendants are the true descendants of Pocahontas. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.<BR> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489</HTML>

There is a book--"Brunswick County, Virginia, 1720-1975" by Gay Weeks Neale. This is a modern history book (1975) with footnotes and bibliographies and great appendices. It has a good index. This book deals mostly with the later, smaller Brunswick, that wound up east of Bedford. Particularly around the Meherrin River. But it has some goodies on very early families in that portion of Brunswick that became Bedford, Campbell, and Halifax. You may find it at a library or Amazon. If you "google" the title, under google books, they will give you a list of libraries that have it. There is a lot of info about the Stith family, and their kin. It lists the very early justices and clerks and sheriffs and surveyors. Militia lists, war rosters, land grants, etc. Many, many families are mentioned. It is worth a look. Sadly, my Irvines are not there. Edwin

This is at least a partial list of some of the Elders at the Hat Creek Presbyterian Church. I received it from a direct descendant of old John Irvine. She adds a note below. John Irvin 1742-1788 (Edwin's note--this John raised my Christopher) Capt Charles Cobbs Paulet Clark 1810-? 1855 Major Irvin (John's son)-1814 Capt John Marshall Capt Plubius Jones1810- Joshua Morris Capt William Smith 1810- Benjamin Chapman 1810- ( my note: MY 3rd great grandfather who's grandson married Sarah Fairfax Irvin) (not Edwin's note) William Armistead 1810- William Clark James Clark Matthew F. Irvin Dr Robert Smith - 1879 Orthodox Creed Clark -1900 Pleasant Clark 1855- Clement clark 1855- Plunis clark 1855-1892 Bolar Clark 1857- Bolar Clark -1871 Dr S. H. Hudnall 1876-1892 Albert Clark 1876- Albert L. C;lark -1871 Edwin's note--My gggg-grandfather, orphan Christopher Irvin, was raised by old John. We are still debating as to how they relate to one another. John may have been an uncle or great uncle? It is a work in progress. That is why I contribute to this forum. If I can help someone with their search, maybe someday they will uncover proof of who Christopher's father was. We feel certain he is the son of one of the Otter River Irvines. We just can't prove which one. There were several Christophers. Mine went to Wilkes county, Georgia, about 1793? Not the more famous Indian fighter Christopher who went to Kentucky with the Calloways. And Floyd, I see your Publius was an elder. We chat occasionally with the present day Reverend Hahnlen. He is writing a history of the Church. He has very little time, and is not in the best physical health, so try not to bury him with requests. But I am sure he will try to answer a few queries. Especially if you drive over there and attend Sunday services. Ha. Our little Irvine research group is trying to organize a get-together this September, at the Bedford Genealogy Fair. I, like many of you, have never set foot in Virginia, the cradle of my family. I am looking forward to coming, and I hope to meet some of you. Edwin

This forum seems to be rolling along quite well. I am learning much. And I stand corrected on the direct line of Pocahontas. I was quoting from memory, from old history books, which someone pointed out, are often flawed. It's like the Mayflower. Everyone in New England was on that ship. My line of Irvines has a similar story. They came over in 1729, on the "George and Ann" supposedly with the McDowells. If everyone you see listed on those ships was really on them, they would have sunk in the British harbor. Ha. I loved the stories about Dunsmore's war. Great stuff. I will see what I have on the Hat Creek Church. Records are slim, due to several fires, but I think I have a list of the elders. All I have to do is find it. Edwin

Because it is not my line, I have never looked closely at the Pocahontas "connection" or "non-connection" to the STITH family. I have studied my own line, and I am proud that my mother was a STITH. I really don't think that there have knowingly been false implications made in the previous discussion. As I have tried to point out along the way, and several of you have also, there are differing opinions on some of these "facts". I suppose that is the usual in family history. Thanks, Velma **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Based on what was recently posted, copied and pasted below, Franklin Co., Va. was not formed in 1785. Rather it was formed from both Bedford and Henry counties in 1786, based on an order of the 'gentlemen justices' dated Nov. 29, 1785. Later a part of Patrick Co., Va. was added which is reflected in the current configuration of Franklin County. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin "Tex" Irvin" To: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: [VABEDFOR] old County lines I'm sure this is old news to most of you, but I will post it anyway. 4-5 Formation of Counties of VA from Charles City County, est. 1634 to Franklin County, est. 1785

In reply to the Bolling and Stith postings, the following is provided: Robert Bolling married Jane Rolfe abt. 1675 and they had a son, John Bolling, who married Mary Kennon. This was the Pocahontas line, as Jane Rolfe was her granddaughter. Ann Stith married Robert Bolling abt. 1681, and they had seven children. Consequently Ann Stith is not a descendant of Pocahontas. She was born 1665 in James City Co., Va. and died July 17, 1709 at "Kippax," Prince George Co., Va., which has just been formed from Charles City Co., Va. in 1703. Ann Stith was the daughter of John Drury Stith and Jane Gregory. I close with a note that one should be careful when taking what has been written in publications, in particular some of the books in regard to the descendants of Pocahontas, as many of them are bogus. There was but one son of Robert Bolling and Jane Rolfe, namely John Bolling and he, in turn, had only one son, also named John Bolling. This latter John Bolling married Elizabeth Blair and they had thirteen children, seven sons, and six daughters. Their descendants are the true descendants of Pocahontas.

Good catch, Raymond. I mis-stated Robert Bolling as being the great-grandson of Pocahontas, when it was in fact his first wife, Jane Rolfe, who was the granddaughter of Pocahontas. Quoted from the book Pocahontas Descendants with Correction and Additons (by Stuart E. Brown, et al): "Col. Robert and Ann Stith Bolling's descendants (seven children, etc., etc.) are sometimes referred to as "white" Bollings to distinguish them from the descendants of Colonel Robert and Jane Rolfe Bolling who, in the same context, and because of their descendancy from Pocahontas, are sometimes referred to as "red" Bollings." Drema Raymond Ryan wrote: > In reply to the Bolling and Stith postings, the following is provided: > > Robert Bolling married Jane Rolfe abt. 1675 and they had a son, John > Bolling, who married Mary Kennon. This was the Pocahontas line, as > Jane Rolfe was her granddaughter. > > Ann Stith married Robert Bolling abt. 1681, and they had seven > children. Consequently Ann Stith is not a descendant of Pocahontas. > She was born 1665 in James City Co., Va. and died July 17, 1709 at > "Kippax," Prince George Co., Va., which has just been formed from > Charles City Co., Va. in 1703. Ann Stith was the daughter of John > Drury Stith and Jane Gregory. > > I close with a note that one should be careful when taking what has > been written in publications, in particular some of the books in > regard to the descendants of Pocahontas, as many of them are bogus. > There was but one son of Robert Bolling and Jane Rolfe, namely John > Bolling and he, in turn, had only one son, also named John Bolling. > This latter John Bolling married Elizabeth Blair and they had > thirteen children, seven sons, and six daughters. Their descendants > are the true descendants of Pocahontas. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To post to the list, email: VABEDFOR@rootsweb.com > To contact the list admin, email: VABEDFOR-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VABEDFOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

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