Hi, Goose Creek runs along Rte. 747. From Roanoke/Vinton- Go down Rte 24, take a left onto 747. This will bring you to Rte. 122 in the city of Bedford. It's a long way. (?miles) Hope this helps! Va. Cuz VABEDFOR-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > VABEDFOR-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 38 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Lee, Bedford Co., VA, 1800 [Ed Marsh <emarsh@SPC.cc.tx.us>] > #2 Re:Baber [Freddie Spradlin <FSPRADLIN@delphi] > #3 Ivy Hill and the Wills family [Tom Wills <twills@eclipse.net>] > #4 Ivy Hill [ljohns@isgroup.net (Linda Johns)] > #5 GOOSE CREEK [KatCamp@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > Do not post/reply to VABEDFOR-D@rootsweb.com (DIGEST mode). > send all post/replies to VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com > All messages will be saved and sent to DIGEST subscribers, in turn. > When replying, do not "quote" the entire DIGEST message. > Delete the irrelevant portions and remember to change the SUBJECT line. > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Lee, Bedford Co., VA, 1800 > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:41:02 -0500 > From: Ed Marsh <emarsh@SPC.cc.tx.us> > To: VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com > > Harold, > > I have been interested in the Ludwell Lee line. Philadelphia Ludwell > Lee married William Ballard. > > 1 BALLARD, William b: Abt 1684 James City Co, VA d: K & Q VA > .+LUDWELL), Philadelphia (poss. Lee or b: 1682 Essex Co, Va > m: VA d: Aft 1754 Essex Co, Va > ..... 2 BALLARD, Bland b: Abt 1704 Essex Co VA > d: Jan 03, 1792 Spotsylvania Co, VA > .........+DEERING, Mary b: 1710 Orange Co VA m: Orange Co VA d: Aft > 1753 > ..... 2 BALLARD, Phillip b: Abt 1704 St. Ann's Parish Essex CO VA > d: Mar 08, 1778 Orange Co VA > ......... +JOHNSON, Ann Nancy b: Abt 1715 m: Abt 1733 > .....2 BALLARD, William b: 1715 York CO VA > d: Jun 12, 1794 Bedford CO VA > .........+BYRUM, Mary b: 1710 Yorkshire, England > m: 1734 Cedar Creek Hanover CO VA > d: 1765 Bedford Co., VA, Goose Creek MM, VA > .....*2nd Wife of William Ballard: > .........+CLARK, Rachel b: 1714 Louisa Co., VA (Prob.) > m: Aug 25, 1768 Campbell Co., VA d: Jun 10, 1792 Bedford Co VA > .....2 BALLARD, Thomas b: 1716 d: 1804 Will 6/30/1779 Albemarle Co VA > .........+POWERS, Mary b: Abt 1740 d: Bef 1779 > ..... *2nd Wife of Thomas Ballard: > .........+HESSON, Susannah b: Abt 1716 Louisa Co VA d: Aft > 1765 > .....2 BALLARD, Philadelphia b: 1718 > .....2 BALLARD, Alice b: Abt 1720 Caroline VA > .........+NOEL, John b: 1708 > ..... *2nd Husband of Alice Ballard: > .........+STANLEY, John b: Oct 11, 1691 New Kent Co VA > m: New Kent Co VA d: Jul 17, 1783 > .....2 BALLARD, John b: 1720 Essex CO, VA d: Mar 08, 1778 > > In later generations there are more Bedford Co-Lynch's Station > connections. As these were Quakers, I suggest looking at their records. > Also, what are your dates for FRANCIS LUDWELL LEE? Contact me if you wish > for further info/discussion. > > Ed > > Harold wrote: > > > Hello and thanks for reading. Am looking for any connection between > > Francis Ludwell Lee and the Lynch farm/plantation at or near Lynch's > > Station. Francis married Sallie Moorman in bedford Co. and is my ggg > > grandfather. Thanks for any help. > > -- > > Regards, > > Harold > > Spammers beware! Unsolicited e-mail subject to a $500 download > > and archiving fee. > > > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > > There is no way to temporarily suspend receiving messages from this > > list. You must follow the instructions to unsubscribe, then to > > resume, send the subscribe message. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re:Baber > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:49:08 -0600 > From: Freddie Spradlin <FSPRADLIN@delphi.com> (by way of jderald@jaws.greatwhite.com) > To: VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com > > Your message was not posted to the mailing list because you addressed it to: > VABEDFOR-L-request@rootsweb.com > > All messages to the list must go to: > VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com > > Regards, > Freddie S. > > On 21-JUN-1998 20:07:38.0 jderald said to FSPRADLIN > `Looking for information on the BABER Family of Bedford Cnty. > `Descendants of Robert BABER I > `1 Robert BABER I Bef. 1668 - Aft. 1709 > `.. +Sarah > `......... 2 Edward BABER 1682 - WFT Est. 1687-1776 > `......... 2 Thomas BABER Abt. 1688 - > `......... 2 Robert BABER II Abt. 1690 - Abt. 1747 > `............. +Margaret WELCH > `.................... 3 Elizabeth BABER > `........................ +William WALKER > `.................... 3 William BABER > `.................... 3 Sarah BABER > `........................ +? COCKERMAN > `.................... 3 Juriah BABER > `.................... 3 John BABER > `.................... 3 Charles BABER > `.................... 3 Rachel BABER > `........................ +William WEBB > `.................... 3 Ann (Nancy) BABER > `.................... 3 Robert BABER III Abt. 1725 - 1786 > `........................ +Jane PENDLETON Abt. 1725 - > `Aft. 1786 ............................... 4 Jane BABER > `................................... +Thomas FARMER > `............................... 4 Mary BABER > `................................... +? PERRIN > `............................... 4 William BABER Abt. 1758 - 1830 > `................................... +Susannah SOUTHERN > `Abt. 176 2 - 1832 > `............................... 4 John BABER Abt. 1760 - 1809 > `................................... +Sally MOORMAN Abt. > `1772 - Aft. 1820 > `............................... 4 James BABER 1763 - 1836 > `................................... +Milly or Melley > `ARTHUR 1762 - 1 842 > `......... 2 John BABER Abt. 1692 - > > fspradlin@delphi.com 3448 W. 170th St., Torrance, CA 90504-2402 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Ivy Hill and the Wills family > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:42:44 -0400 > From: Tom Wills <twills@eclipse.net> > To: VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello to everyone out there. Is anyone out there savvy enough about Bedford > County that can tell me where a place called Ivy Hill is located? I have > ancestors in the WILLS family that may be buried in that area. > > Thanks in advance. > > Tom Wills > Tom Wills twills@eclipse.net > Visit my web page at http://www.eclipse.net/~twills/index.htm > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Ivy Hill > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:51:39 -0400 > From: ljohns@isgroup.net (Linda Johns) > To: VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello Bedford researchers, > > I accidentally deleted the message from a Mr. Wills regarding Ivy Hill > in Bedford county, but here goes, anyway... > > I do not have any information on the Wills family but "Ivy Hill" is > shown on my Bedford County Historical Map as being located in the > eastern section of the county, just north of St. Stephen's Episcopal > Church and not far from Poplar Forest, the Jefferson estate. It's just > north of the Lynchburg Road and near the old Radford place. I'm very > familiar with this neighborhood, as I had an aunt who lived in this area > for many years, but can't recall the specific house at this time. There > is an Ivy Creek shown nearby. The Radford family still lives on their > old homeplace. Is there a picture or description of Ivy Hill? I still > have numerous cousins in Bedford county who may be familiar with the > home if it is still standing. > > Regards, > > Linda Dyal Johns > Florida > > Researching surnames: BLANKENSHIP, CARTER, DILLON, DUDLEY, ENGLISH, > HAILE/HALE, HAYNES, HUTTS, and PAGAN > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: GOOSE CREEK > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:45:55 EDT > From: KatCamp@aol.com > To: VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com > > Can anyone tell me where "Goose Creek" is in Bedford County? Supposedly my > husband's grandfather and great grandfather were born there. > > Thanks. > Kathy -- MZ

Kathy, I can tell you I have to cross it on Rt. 122(Moneta Rd.) when I go to my Grandparents. Theres Goose Creek, then right after there's another. I just can't think of th name. Then my Grandfathers land. Hope this helps a little. Jeri

Can anyone tell me where "Goose Creek" is in Bedford County? Supposedly my husband's grandfather and great grandfather were born there. Thanks. Kathy

Hello Bedford researchers, I accidentally deleted the message from a Mr. Wills regarding Ivy Hill in Bedford county, but here goes, anyway... I do not have any information on the Wills family but "Ivy Hill" is shown on my Bedford County Historical Map as being located in the eastern section of the county, just north of St. Stephen's Episcopal Church and not far from Poplar Forest, the Jefferson estate. It's just north of the Lynchburg Road and near the old Radford place. I'm very familiar with this neighborhood, as I had an aunt who lived in this area for many years, but can't recall the specific house at this time. There is an Ivy Creek shown nearby. The Radford family still lives on their old homeplace. Is there a picture or description of Ivy Hill? I still have numerous cousins in Bedford county who may be familiar with the home if it is still standing. Regards, Linda Dyal Johns Florida Researching surnames: BLANKENSHIP, CARTER, DILLON, DUDLEY, ENGLISH, HAILE/HALE, HAYNES, HUTTS, and PAGAN

Hello to everyone out there. Is anyone out there savvy enough about Bedford County that can tell me where a place called Ivy Hill is located? I have ancestors in the WILLS family that may be buried in that area. Thanks in advance. Tom Wills Tom Wills twills@eclipse.net Visit my web page at http://www.eclipse.net/~twills/index.htm

Your message was not posted to the mailing list because you addressed it to: VABEDFOR-L-request@rootsweb.com All messages to the list must go to: VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com Regards, Freddie S. On 21-JUN-1998 20:07:38.0 jderald said to FSPRADLIN `Looking for information on the BABER Family of Bedford Cnty. `Descendants of Robert BABER I `1 Robert BABER I Bef. 1668 - Aft. 1709 `.. +Sarah `......... 2 Edward BABER 1682 - WFT Est. 1687-1776 `......... 2 Thomas BABER Abt. 1688 - `......... 2 Robert BABER II Abt. 1690 - Abt. 1747 `............. +Margaret WELCH `.................... 3 Elizabeth BABER `........................ +William WALKER `.................... 3 William BABER `.................... 3 Sarah BABER `........................ +? COCKERMAN `.................... 3 Juriah BABER `.................... 3 John BABER `.................... 3 Charles BABER `.................... 3 Rachel BABER `........................ +William WEBB `.................... 3 Ann (Nancy) BABER `.................... 3 Robert BABER III Abt. 1725 - 1786 `........................ +Jane PENDLETON Abt. 1725 - `Aft. 1786 ............................... 4 Jane BABER `................................... +Thomas FARMER `............................... 4 Mary BABER `................................... +? PERRIN `............................... 4 William BABER Abt. 1758 - 1830 `................................... +Susannah SOUTHERN `Abt. 176 2 - 1832 `............................... 4 John BABER Abt. 1760 - 1809 `................................... +Sally MOORMAN Abt. `1772 - Aft. 1820 `............................... 4 James BABER 1763 - 1836 `................................... +Milly or Melley `ARTHUR 1762 - 1 842 `......... 2 John BABER Abt. 1692 - fspradlin@delphi.com 3448 W. 170th St., Torrance, CA 90504-2402

Harold, I have been interested in the Ludwell Lee line. Philadelphia Ludwell Lee married William Ballard. 1 BALLARD, William b: Abt 1684 James City Co, VA d: K & Q VA .+LUDWELL), Philadelphia (poss. Lee or b: 1682 Essex Co, Va m: VA d: Aft 1754 Essex Co, Va ..... 2 BALLARD, Bland b: Abt 1704 Essex Co VA d: Jan 03, 1792 Spotsylvania Co, VA .........+DEERING, Mary b: 1710 Orange Co VA m: Orange Co VA d: Aft 1753 ..... 2 BALLARD, Phillip b: Abt 1704 St. Ann's Parish Essex CO VA d: Mar 08, 1778 Orange Co VA ......... +JOHNSON, Ann Nancy b: Abt 1715 m: Abt 1733 .....2 BALLARD, William b: 1715 York CO VA d: Jun 12, 1794 Bedford CO VA .........+BYRUM, Mary b: 1710 Yorkshire, England m: 1734 Cedar Creek Hanover CO VA d: 1765 Bedford Co., VA, Goose Creek MM, VA .....*2nd Wife of William Ballard: .........+CLARK, Rachel b: 1714 Louisa Co., VA (Prob.) m: Aug 25, 1768 Campbell Co., VA d: Jun 10, 1792 Bedford Co VA .....2 BALLARD, Thomas b: 1716 d: 1804 Will 6/30/1779 Albemarle Co VA .........+POWERS, Mary b: Abt 1740 d: Bef 1779 ..... *2nd Wife of Thomas Ballard: .........+HESSON, Susannah b: Abt 1716 Louisa Co VA d: Aft 1765 .....2 BALLARD, Philadelphia b: 1718 .....2 BALLARD, Alice b: Abt 1720 Caroline VA .........+NOEL, John b: 1708 ..... *2nd Husband of Alice Ballard: .........+STANLEY, John b: Oct 11, 1691 New Kent Co VA m: New Kent Co VA d: Jul 17, 1783 .....2 BALLARD, John b: 1720 Essex CO, VA d: Mar 08, 1778 In later generations there are more Bedford Co-Lynch's Station connections. As these were Quakers, I suggest looking at their records. Also, what are your dates for FRANCIS LUDWELL LEE? Contact me if you wish for further info/discussion. Ed Harold wrote: > Hello and thanks for reading. Am looking for any connection between > Francis Ludwell Lee and the Lynch farm/plantation at or near Lynch's > Station. Francis married Sallie Moorman in bedford Co. and is my ggg > grandfather. Thanks for any help. > -- > Regards, > Harold > Spammers beware! Unsolicited e-mail subject to a $500 download > and archiving fee. > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > There is no way to temporarily suspend receiving messages from this > list. You must follow the instructions to unsubscribe, then to > resume, send the subscribe message.

Looking for information on Andrew Allen. At this point, all I know is that Andrew ALLEN married Lavina Roberts in March 1823 in Franklin County, VA and William Allen posted the bond for him. I don't know if William ALLEN was father, brother or even cousin. I'm not even sure if Andrew and Lavina lived in Franklin County at the time of their marriage so I'm checking other nearby counties. Andrew and Lavina eventually settled in Illinois where they had a son in 1841 named Joseph Sidney Allen. There were probably other children born before Joseph. Do these names ring a bell with anyone? Does anyone have a connection with Andrew ALLEN or Lavina ROBERTS? Does anyone have any ideas on where I can check for more information? Thanks in advance for any help. Mary Allen

Hi, I am looking for any information on this Burgess family who was in Laurens County, S.C. by 1779 and who migrated to Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi after the death of Joel Burgess, Sr. in 1803 in Laurens Co.. Joel Burgess Sr. B. abt. 1742 in Bedford Co. D 1803 in Laurens Co., S.C., Virginia married Eleanor/Ellen Hayth B. abt. 1748 Bedford Co., Va. D. after 1830 in Newton Co., Ga.. drew a land lottery in 1827 Newton Co. and a gold lottery in 1832 Paulding Co.. Children: 1. Elijah Burgess B. abt. 1764 in Bedford Co., Va., D. 1821 in Walton Co., Ga. 2. Walter Burgess B. abt. 1765 in Bedford Co., Va., D ? in Laurens Co., S.C.? 3. Mary Ann Burgess B. abt. 1767Bedford Co., Va. D. ? in Laurens Co., S.C. ? M. William Wynn Hendricks/Henderson 4. Thomas Burgess probably went to Indiana ? 5. William Burgess B. abt. 1776 Bedford Co. Va.D? probably in Coosa County, Ala. M. Nancy Box 6. Roland Burgess B. abt. 1770 in Bedford Co., Va.D. after 1840 was living in Tuscaloosa Co. Ala. in 1840 M. Margaret Dillard. 7. Joel, Burgess, Jr. B. 1765-1769in Bedford Co. Va. D. probably in Laurens Co., S.C. M. Elizabeth (Alsy) Brownlee 8. John C. (Cargill)? Burgess B. in Laurens Co.1790 D. probably after 1850 in Benton (Calhoun) County Alabama M. Susan Wyatt 9. Jane (Jenny) Burgess B.? D.? M. Thomas Gore in Spartanburg Co., S.C. 10. Sarah Keziah (Sally) Burgess B. 1790-1795 D. abt. 1842 in Tippah Co., Ms.M. George Medford Dec. 29, 1808 in Morgan Co., Ga. 11. Eleanor "Nelly" Burgess B. ? D? M. William Hughes 12. Martha/Patty B.? D? M (1) William Chandler (2) Robert Box Thank you, Jan Burgess Morrow

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Hello, My name is Debbie Nelms Hitchcock of McMinnville, Tennessee. I am researching the NELMS family name. If you have any family genealogy records you would like to share or should you recognize any names below, please contact me. Listed below is a sample of my family members, beginning with my gg-grandfather. 1. JAMES WESLEY NELMS was born 1822 in Kingsport, Tennessee, and died 1869. He married MARTHA L. SLAUGHTER 1851, daughter of ISAAC SLAUGHTER and LOUISA. Children of JAMES NELMS and MARTHA SLAUGHTER are: 2. i. ROBERT NELMS, b. 1852; d. St. Charles, Virginia. 3. ii. GEORGE MURRIEL MONROE NELMS, b. June 27, 1853, Kingsport, Sullivan County, Tennessee. 4. iii. ARCHIBALD BATEMAN NELMS, b. October 22, 1854, Kingsport, Tennessee; d. February 20, 1936, Pennington Gap, Virginia. iv. ANN NELMS, b. 1855. 5. v. CHARLES WESTLEY NELMS, b. October 1857; d. October 18, 1920. vi. DAVID E. NELMS, b. 1861; m. EMMA WILSON, March 20, 1884, Kingsport, Sullivan County, Tennessee. 6. vii. JOHN MALAIRE NELMS, b. 1865, Jellico, Campbell County, Tennessee; d. February 15, 1924, Burlington, Ward County, North Dakota - Section 40 of cemetery. viii. MARTHA L. NELMS, b. 1865; m. JESSE SHIPMAN, February 08, 1880. 7. ix. JAMES FRANKLIN NELMS, b. 1870; d. 1943, Surgoinsville, Tennessee. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Debbie Nelms Hitchcock

Request: I am looking for information about the parents of Benjamin Robinson(1755-1848). He enlisted in the Revolutionary Army in Caroline County,VA in 1776, fought in the battles of Germantown and Brandwine in PA and Tappon in New Jersey. He spent the winter(1776/77) at Valley Forge,PA. He was discharged in 1781 on the banks of the catabaw river. I would appreciate any information about Benjamin and his parents or where I may locate such information. RRR

Hi Everyone, I am seeking information on the parents of Lucy James who married William Scott about 1741 in Bedford Co. Their children were: Thomas, William, Aston, George, James, Evan, John, Sarah Lee, Obadiah b. 15 Feb 1764 in Bedford Co., Peter, Joseph, Charles, and possibly Susannah. I found a deed of a Thomas James during this time in Bedford and in Prince Edward Co. Does anyone have any information on the parents of Lucy. Contact me at Pat48084@aol.com

Hi! I'm looking for information on John Burke b ca 1758 in Maryland or Virginia, died March 29, 1839 Lee Co., VA, He was a Revolutionary War soldier. John married Mary Stevens May 3, 1786 in Bedford Co., VA. Mary was born 1767 in Bedford Co., VA, died Oct 30, 1846 Lee Co., VA. Their Children: Lydia Burke b 1788 John Burke b 1790 Catherine (Caty) Burke b 1792 Thomas Burke b 1793 Robert Burke b 1797 Lucy Burke b 1800 David Burke b 1804 Any info an this family would be greatly appreciated. Robin

Looking for info on above Wright ancestor. Anything about her would be very much appreciated. Catherine WRIGHT b: c 1790, Bedford. VA; d: abt 26 Jan 1875. Married John ST. CLAIR, Jr. 27 Apr 1806. Thanks, Jan Williamson VJyizit@aol.com

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Richard Moss (d 1820 Bedford Co.). Widow Sally and children sold all land on the same day (11 Mar 1832) and disappeared. Was there an Indian removal based on the Act of 1830 carried out in Bedford County? Children: Henry, Peter, Sally, Richard, Anne, John, Mildred, William and Edward. Norman Ricker normhr@ij.net

Hello and thanks for reading. Am looking for any connection between Francis Ludwell Lee and the Lynch farm/plantation at or near Lynch's Station. Francis married Sallie Moorman in bedford Co. and is my ggg grandfather. Thanks for any help. -- Regards, Harold Spammers beware! Unsolicited e-mail subject to a $500 download and archiving fee.

Looking for others doing research on Hardin and Harper. Henry Harper m. Esther Hardin......... haggis@ix.netcom.com