I have Joseph showing on Lee CO VA census, 1850, and it appears that he may have children close to him. Dop you recordnize any part of this group or do you think there is any clue to other THOMAS groups? Joseph THOMAS, [1765], blind in 1850, born Bedford Co VA. Living with him were Mary [1808] and Pleasant [1840]. This Joseph may or may not be the same as the one above [Joseph Thomas son of John Thomas m Elizabeth; moved to Lee CO from Loudon CO in 1803 had a son James b 9-19-1802 m Hannah from Smythe CO about 1824. [ per GRTHOMAS@driveninc.com ] George Slater THOMAS [1798-1870] m. abt. 1824 to Catherine INGLE [1801-1887]. Children: Alvin m Mary Ann Baldwin, Mary, Henry m Sidney E. McKinney, Susannah m William Harris, John, Pleasant m Mary Ann Davison, William m Almeda Sowder, George m Martha A. Main, Elizabeth m Richard Nunn. Mary INGLE, assumed to be mother-in-law, [1773-1850+] born PA lived with George and Catherine. Joseph THOMAS Jr [1798] m. Elizabeth [1815] born Claiborne Co TN. c: Mary, Lucy, Margaret, Charles [1842], George Slater THOMAS [1844] m 9/26/1867 in Lee Co VA Rebecca HOBACK dgtr of David HOBACK [ not verified and [Mary] Anne MOORE HOBACK of Montgomery Co VA.], Joseph [1847], Martha [1849], Hester A. [1851], Catharine & Sarah [1853], James [1857], Jennie B. [1865]. Joseph R. [or N.] THOMAS [1815] m. Catherine [1823] c: Lucinda [1841], Eliza J. [1844], Nancy E. [1845], Susan M. [1847], William M. THOMAS [1849] m. 1-8-1874 in Lee Co VA to Sarah BOLEN THOMAS [1851] dgtr of William and Cynthia BOLEN, Martin W. [1850], Sarah C. [1852], Mary J. [1855]. Joseph THOMAS [1829] m. Elizabeth HARRIS [1832] lived entire life in Lee Co VA. ============================================================ George Slater THOMAS [1844] m 9/26/1867 in Lee Co VA Rebecca HOBACK dgtr of David HOBACK and [Mary] Anne MOORE HOBACK of Montgomery Co VA. Courtesy of braydic@aol.com. "Lee County Virginia Marriage Register 2 - 1853-1884" by Elizabeth M. Carpenter shows GEORGE S. THOMAS, age 23, single born in Claiborne County Tennessee married REBECCA HOBACK, age 19, single born in Union County Tennessee married on Sep 26, 1867 in Lee County Virginia. They were married by Alexander E. Woodward, listed as Minister. George's parents are listed as Joseph and Elizabeth Thomas. Rebecca's father is listed as David Hoback. [not verifed David Hoback married [Mary] Anne Moore of Montgomery Co VA.] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: b.hyden@juno.com, To: Lctdugan@aol.com, Lonnie, I can't say for sure, but my guess is that Alexander E. Woodward was a minister. His father was Valentine Woodward, seventh child of Jesse and Mary Hyden Woodward(b. Jan. 25, 1800 Stafford Co, VA.-d. Jan. 29, 1885 Lee Co. Va.), Valentine was a Methodist minister and resided in Sugar Run about five miles from Jonesville, Va. I have also seen his name mentioned as a part of the Methodist Camp Ground in Jonesville. The Woodwards intermarried with my Hydens and several from both sides became Methodist ministers. All I have on Alexander E. Woodward is that he was born Apr. 23, 1831 and married Maggie E. Burckon (Bierkon). Don Hyden ============================================================ Beyond this, I have a couple of thousand descended from George Slater Thomas [1798-1870] and Catherine Ingle THOMAS [1801-1887]. ============================================================ Thanks, Lonnie see < http://www.willapabay.org/~karenl/karen.html > and look at "Family Documents"

I agree with Linda, when y'all ask a 'blanket question' could you please provide a 'blanket answer'? What big town (visible on the map) is it near and does anyone know where Harper's Ferry is? I can find it in the old High School History Book in the text but not on a map of any kind. Only know that it was originally in VA but as they subdivided and created W. VA from VA... I 'think' it is now considered in W. VA. Where? I'm geographically challenged, i.e., I was raised on the West Coast of this here U.S. and know absolutely 'zilch' about the area of my progenitor's original habitation in the Colonies. But I want to over come this handicap and with only the questions listed I find myself with only ONE oar in the water. Try not to get too sooty down thar in Florida... Have a Happy 4th of July where ever you are, Lisa Grimes Researching: MOSS, MASSIE, MACON, JOHNSON, HARRIS, RICE, RUSSELL, STRATTON, McCALL, CAMPBELL & CAMPBELL, BARBER(BARBOUR), WATKINS, ROSSER, PRITCHETT, WORTHING, GRIMES, JOHNSTON, SMITH, HAGGERTY, GREEN(e), HERRINGTON, STAMPS and a 'few' more in the Colonial VA, W VA,PA, KY, NC, SC, GA, LA, OH, TX, NM and points West.

Hello again, Upon further searching, there were actually two Quaker meeting houses along Goose Creek...the one described in the previous message is the Lower Meeting House and there was an "Upper Goose Creek Meeting House" near Taylor's Mountain, much farther upstream, near where the Beale Treasure is supposed to be. I notice on the Bedford County Historical Map there is also a notation above Enoch's Creek, one of the branches of Goose Creek, near Raven Rock, that "The Quaker, David Crenshaw, came here in 1782" with an arrow pointing to a location on Goose Creek. Does anyone have any information on Crenshaw? Did he establish a meeting house there, as well? Goose Creek must have been the Hollywood Boulevard of Quaker Meeting Houses in that part of the world...just kidding. Linda

Ed Marsh wrote: > > I would like to know more about the Quaker Meeting House on Goose Creek. I have > CANDLER ancestors, Quakers who moved from South River to Goose Creek. I assumed > (probably incorrectly) that they moved just a short ways from the present > Lynchburg because their children appeared in Campbell Co.a short time later. > > Linda Johns wrote: > > > hortonmay@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > Linda, I think that Goose Creek starts above Montvale and meanders in a SE > > > direction. > > > EH May > > > Bedford Va > > > > Hi, > > > > You know someone else corrected me on that. I told them that this is > > what comes from living down here in the flatlands so long...we can't > > figure out which way water flows. And to further complicate matters, > > the St. Johns, Florida's largest river, which is not far from me, > > actually does flow north for some 250 miles to the Atlantic Ocean. > > Check it out. > > > > I have no idea why I started out describing Goose Creek backwards. Brain > > fade, I suppose. Anyway, to one and all, it starts up there in the > > mountains, near Powell's Gap, and heads south along the same general > > path described, but in reverse. I guess I just don't know of any rivers > > in Virginia that flow north... > > > > Kathy, were your ancestors Quaker, by any chance? There's a famous > > Quaker Meeting House on Goose Creek. > > > > Linda in Florida, amid the smoke and ash > > > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > > The VAGenWeb's QueryPage for the "Unknown County" is at URL: > > http://people.delphi.com/fspradlin/vaquery.htm Hi Ed and Bedford researchers, I have some notes on the Bedford County Goose Creek Meeting House but the historic marker there pretty well sums it up. From A GUIDEBOOK TO VIRGINIA'S HISTORICAL MARKERS: "Quaker Baptist Church" A Quaker meeting was established on Goose Creek in 1757, and a meeting house built. Fear of Indians caused most of the Quakers to move elsewhere though some of them returned. Unsuccessful attempts were made to reestablish the Goose Creek meeting. Before 1824, a church was established near here, known as Difficult Creek Baptist Church. The present Church (Quaker Baptist), built in 1898, stands near the site of the old building. Bedford county: Route 24, 3.0 miles east of interesection of Routes 122 and 24. End of quote. There is, also, located nearby Morgan's Baptist Church, oldest Baptist Church in the county, founded 1771, which was formerly known as Goose Creek Baptist. Morgan's is closer to Moneta and on the other side of Goose Creek from the Quakers. The Quakers were downstream, below Davis Mills, between Body Camp Creek and Difficult Creek, nearer to Huddleston. I'm posting this to the group, even though Ed asked the question, as this may be of some interest to others, as well. I know that I have, speaking for myself, learned a great deal on Bedford county just reading the posts that come through whether or not they apply to me, and this may be helpful to others. Linda in Florida

Sorry, I meant to say that Harper's Ferry is in West Virginia -- however it's at the "point" where West Virginia, Virginia and Maryland all meet at Loudoun County, VA. Loudoun is bordered by both West Virginia and Maryland -- as well as near Blue Ridge Mntns. and Shenandoah Valley. It is in the northeast corner of Virginia about 35 miles east-northeast of Washington, D.C., on the Potomac River. Francine

In a message dated 98-06-28 14:50:39 EDT, VABEDFOR-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I guess I just don't know of any rivers > in Virginia that flow north... >> The most famous does. Going southward is going UP the Shenandoah, confuses everyone. D. E. Mayfield

Harper's Ferry is in Maryland, just across the Potomac from Loudoun County, where Waterford, VA, and Loudoun County's Goose Creek are. Migrants from Pennsylania and the port of Philadelphia (Germans, Scotch-Irish and others) crossed the Potomac River at Harper's Ferry and also a little further downstream at what is now the US Route 15 bridge connecting Maryland and Virginia. The Great Wagon Road that traversed from Pennsylvania down through the Shenandoah Valley, on the western side of the Blue Ridge Mountains, and on to Tennessee, Texas and Georgia, etc., went through Loudoun County. Those who did not take the Great Wagon Road on through the Shenandoah, took the route that is now US 15 through Loudoun County and down through Virginia on the Eastern side of the Blue Ridge Mountains. If Harper's Ferry is mentioned in your information about your ancestors, then Loudoun County's Goose Creek and Waterford are where your Quaker Meeting House must be located. See my previous message about Waterford's Quaker Meeting House. Francine

Does anyone on the list have a mailing address for the Morgan' Baptist Church, built in 1771? Is it still in operation? God bless you all, Flo FloCox@aol.com Researching: Barton, Birchfield, Bishop, Boothe, Cox, Dooley, Drake, Franklin, Harper, Huff, Kefauver, Loyd, Marks, McFalls, McQuain, Raines, Simmons, Wheeler - all from the VA/WV areas.

Hi, I live in Loudoun County, which is the home of Waterford, where the Quaker Meeting House is -- Waterford is a beautiful antique country village that is a national historical site. It was founded by Quakers and is near (or on?) Goose Creek (I live next to Goose Creek in my part of Loudoun, before it empties into the Potomac River). Information on Waterford and probably the meeting house is at the following site: <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~valoudou/waterf.html"> http://www.rootsweb.com/~valoudou/waterf.html</A> Photos of Waterford are at the following commercial site for a Waterford B&B: http://www.waterfordbarn.com/ <A HREF="http://www.waterfordbarn.com/">The Barn at Waterford - Bed and Breakfast - N...</A> Hope this is helpful, Francine

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_899038686_boundary Content-ID: <0_899038686@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I posted this message to the Floyd Co. rootsweb in answer to a question. I later decided that others may have the same question, so I am forwarding the letter I wrote to Laurie. Donna --part0_899038686_boundary Content-ID: <0_899038686@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <VAFLOYD-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from relay30.mx.aol.com (relay30.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.30]) by air08.mail.aol.com (v45.13) with SMTP; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:38:45 -0400 Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by relay30.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id IAA17123; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA10934; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:34:21 -0700 (PDT) From: DpwZZTOP@aol.com Message-ID: <7d3e4515.35963820@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:33:35 EDT Old-To: VAFLOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: New Cemetery Book Old-Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 Resent-Message-ID: <"X3wyhD.A.QqC.Mhjl1"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: VAFLOYD-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: VAFLOYD-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: VAFLOYD-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <VAFLOYD-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1827 X-Loop: VAFLOYD-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: VAFLOYD-L-request@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear Laurie, There was a cemetery book published around 1986, but it was very hard to find the people you are looking for. It was not indexed very well and there was lots of mistakes. In 1998, the Franklin County Genealogical Society and the Franklin County Historical Society merged. We are now the Franklin County Heritage Society and have published a new cemetery book. We printed over 200 copies, which sold out immediately. We have now reprinted the new version and have more copies available. The new cemetery book is indexed by name and cemetery. We have tried to correct the mistakes from the old book and have added several cemeteries that were left out. Our main focus was on the small family cemeteries. This is because they are in the most danger of being lost. Time, weather and land developers are taking their toll on these cemeteries. Our effort has been not only to archive these graves, but to save them as well. Thank you for writing, Donna Wingfield Franklin County Heritage Society --part0_899038686_boundary--

I would like to know more about the Quaker Meeting House on Goose Creek. I have CANDLER ancestors, Quakers who moved from South River to Goose Creek. I assumed (probably incorrectly) that they moved just a short ways from the present Lynchburg because their children appeared in Campbell Co.a short time later. Linda Johns wrote: > hortonmay@aol.com wrote: > > > > Linda, I think that Goose Creek starts above Montvale and meanders in a SE > > direction. > > EH May > > Bedford Va > > Hi, > > You know someone else corrected me on that. I told them that this is > what comes from living down here in the flatlands so long...we can't > figure out which way water flows. And to further complicate matters, > the St. Johns, Florida's largest river, which is not far from me, > actually does flow north for some 250 miles to the Atlantic Ocean. > Check it out. > > I have no idea why I started out describing Goose Creek backwards. Brain > fade, I suppose. Anyway, to one and all, it starts up there in the > mountains, near Powell's Gap, and heads south along the same general > path described, but in reverse. I guess I just don't know of any rivers > in Virginia that flow north... > > Kathy, were your ancestors Quaker, by any chance? There's a famous > Quaker Meeting House on Goose Creek. > > Linda in Florida, amid the smoke and ash > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > The VAGenWeb's QueryPage for the "Unknown County" is at URL: > http://people.delphi.com/fspradlin/vaquery.htm

hortonmay@aol.com wrote: > > Linda, I think that Goose Creek starts above Montvale and meanders in a SE > direction. > EH May > Bedford Va Hi, You know someone else corrected me on that. I told them that this is what comes from living down here in the flatlands so long...we can't figure out which way water flows. And to further complicate matters, the St. Johns, Florida's largest river, which is not far from me, actually does flow north for some 250 miles to the Atlantic Ocean. Check it out. I have no idea why I started out describing Goose Creek backwards. Brain fade, I suppose. Anyway, to one and all, it starts up there in the mountains, near Powell's Gap, and heads south along the same general path described, but in reverse. I guess I just don't know of any rivers in Virginia that flow north... Kathy, were your ancestors Quaker, by any chance? There's a famous Quaker Meeting House on Goose Creek. Linda in Florida, amid the smoke and ash

Folks, I did not expect the interest in Ivy Hill I stirred up. Since some of you seem to be familiar with the area, let me ask one more obscure question. Is anyone out there familiar with the lands of Henry Brown and John Fisher? It is supposed to be near Leftwich Pond at Ivy Hill. The land my direct ancestor, Justinian Wills and His wife Elizabeth were granted land use of land by James Calloway for the remainder of their lives in 1795. A recent book "The Browns of Bedford County" mentions an Elizabeth Wills living on land between Mr. Brown and Mr. Fisher c1850. I think this is my ancestors wife. If so, It may give me a clue as to where he might be buried. I'm assuming somewhere close by. Probably in a private plot someplace. Thanks in advance. Tom Wills Tom Wills twills@eclipse.net Visit my web page at http://www.eclipse.net/~twills/index.htm

DITTO Linda Johns wrote: > Bedford Researchers, > > So is Ivy Hill still standing or not? I'm really curious as I can't > remember ever seeing it and I thought I had been all over that > neighborhood. If so, is it near the Radford place, or is that not it > that is shown on the historical map? Wracking my brain here... > > I hate it when these interesting questions come through and you all must > respond directly to the poster and I never get to know the answer. > Makes me crazy. It's like losing your radio signal in the middle of a > really good trivia quiz. Ya'll quit that! > > Linda > > Linda in Florida > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > Remember to ALWAYS post messages to VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com > even if you're subcribed in digest mode. > ALWAYS use an appropriate Subject: line (NOT starting with Re: )

The Franklin County Heritage Society has decided to reprint the new Cemetery book. We have copies available for $35.00 plus $4.00 shipping and handling. If interested, send a check to: Beverly Merritt Franklin County Heritage Society P. O. Box 316 Ferrum, VA 24088 Donna Wingfield

Bedford Researchers, So is Ivy Hill still standing or not? I'm really curious as I can't remember ever seeing it and I thought I had been all over that neighborhood. If so, is it near the Radford place, or is that not it that is shown on the historical map? Wracking my brain here... I hate it when these interesting questions come through and you all must respond directly to the poster and I never get to know the answer. Makes me crazy. It's like losing your radio signal in the middle of a really good trivia quiz. Ya'll quit that! Linda Linda in Florida

KatCamp@aol.com wrote: > > Can anyone tell me where "Goose Creek" is in Bedford County? Supposedly my > husband's grandfather and great grandfather were born there. > > Thanks. > Kathy > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > The VAGenWeb's Surname Register is located at URL: > http://people.delphi.com/fspradlin/vasurnam.htm Hi Kathy, Goose Creek runs the length of Bedford county from roughly the southeast corner to the northwest corner, with a number of tributaries, such as the "Stoney Fork of Goose Creek" and numerous other little branches. It enters Bedford county from Campbell near the present town of Huddleston and meanders along in a northerly direction, ending up near Powell's Gap toward Botetourt County. There are a good many historic sites along the way. Linda Johns Florida

I want to take a moment to thank everyone for responding to my posting on Ivy Hill. I received so many responses. Thanks to everyone who took the time to help. Tom Wills Tom Wills twills@eclipse.net Visit my web page at http://www.eclipse.net/~twills/index.htm

Have you read the book about Beale Treasure, one book suggest that Goose Creek may be on the treasure map.

Yes, I second that. My suspicion is that it now lies within Lynchburg proper. KatCamp@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me where "Goose Creek" is in Bedford County? Supposedly my > husband's grandfather and great grandfather were born there. > > Thanks. > Kathy > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > The VAGenWeb's Surname Register is located at URL: > http://people.delphi.com/fspradlin/vasurnam.htm