Hello everyone, I am researching the family of Joseph H JONES and Mary W DICKEY of Bedford and Campbell Counties, VA. Yes, I can hear your cries of sympathy at being stuck with a surname like JONES, but I refuse to give up hope! Joseph JONES was born in 1804 in either Bedford or Campbell County. The identity of his father is uncertain. One of his descendants claims the father's name was Jesse JONES, while another claims it was James JONES. Joseph was married 12 Nov 1827 to Mary W DICKEY in Campbell County. Mary had been born in Bedford County in 1804, the daughter of James DICKEY and Margaret WILSON. According to family tradition, the Peaks of Otter could be seen from the family home. Having never been to Bedford County, I have no idea how far away one can see the Peaks. One of Joseph's and Mary's sons claimed to have been born "near Lynchburg" in Bedford County. Joseph and family stayed in Bedford County until about 1841/42 when they moved to Ross County, OH, and then from there on to Davis County, IA in about 1848. Does anyone have any leads, clues, ideas, etc. on this family? Especially clues to the true identity of Joseph's father? Your help would be most appreciated. Thanks. Sincerely, Gary D Treat

Is anyone on the list researching the family of Samuel McGehee = Mary Ladd/Lead? Samuel, b. ~1700 was the son of William and Mary Carr McGehee, brother to James and Rebecca Prewitt McGehee. After Samuel's death, Mary married (2) David Crews. Children of Samuel and Mary Ladd McGehee: 1. Samuel McGehee b. 1723, last known in Botetourt Co.VA 2. Hulda McGehee, 1725-1771 = Maddox Stanley 3. Robert McGehee, b. 1730 last known in Botetourt Co. VA with brother Samuel 4. Elizabeth McGehee b. 1733 = Gatley Crew 5. Sarah McGehee b. 1735 = Pleasants Stanley. This family went to Bedford Co.VA 6. Lydia McGehee b. 1737 = Mr. Unknown in 1758 7. Ann McGehee b. 1740 = David Crews, son of David who married her mother. Family to Bedford Co. 8. Martha McGehee b. 1742= Thomas Hogg 9. ?John McGehee b. 1744= someone out of unity of the Quaker church. I am trying to connect the McGehee families that lived in Bedford Co. VA in the late 1700's to early 1800's, including my Samuel McGehee b. circa 1750 Caroline Co. = Francis Saunders. Samuel and Francis were in Amherst Co. VA circa 1780's-1800, prior to relocating to Bedford Co. Thanks. Susan Howe, showe@erols.com

Hello, Bedford Co. subscribers. My name is Pam Kuester, and I'm new on this list, as of yesterday, July 8. I need your help, please, for I have seen in DAR records and heard it mentioned in family records that my ancestor, Matthew Talbot, Sr., b. 1699 England, who resided in Bedford Co., VA until his death in 1758, was "the Colonel of the Bedford County Militia" up until his death. I need to prove or disprove this, and I am seeking the help of those of you familiar with researching in Bedford County. I do know that the Talbot family was rather prominent in early Bedford, and that they were instrumental in the setting up of the courts and were also members of the Bedford Co. Burgesses, but I can't "prove" that either. Would there be records of this in the Bedford Co. courthouse? Please advise me as to how to go about this, and I thank you in advance for any help you can provide. Yours, Pam Kuester Pamela Meeks Kuester pam@kuesterlaw.com Ongoing Geneological Research In Lines of: MEEKS, O'NEAL, CHAMBERS, BAGGARLEY, MIDDLEBROOKS, BUCKNER, TALBOT, TILLMAN, BURNLEY, AVERY, FERRERS, de CLARE, DESPENSER, BIGOD, and ROYAL LINES OF PLANTAGENET, HENRY I, II, III, EDWARD I, II, III, WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR, and CHARLEMAGNE. Love conquers all.

Hi: I am a new subscriber interested in contacting researchers who are woking on the following surnames: Melton, Pollard, Pendleton, Wade, Walden. I have considerable data on Melton and Walden and will freely exchange. I am actually just beginning to do Pollard, Pendleton and Wade but am planning a trip to Bedford Co and would like to contact researchers. Thank you. Eldred Melton

Dear Brenda and Lara, Thank you for the Quaker information. William Par(r)ish who married Martha (Patty or Patsy) Goode in Bedford County, Virginia on December 7, 1778 is my 4th great grandfather. When I saw the marriage in Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, I was under the impression that Hinshaw had bound into the work all the early Bedford County marriages as a chapter --- without regard to whether or not they were Quaker. For that reason, I had not made a great deal of William's being Quaker. William and Patsy moved on to Madison County, Kentucky about 1793-1795 after he served two years in the Revolutionary War. In 1818, he applied for and received a Revolutionary War pension in Madison County. Last week, I reviewed William's 1787 patent for 396 acres of land on Beaverdam Creek in Bedford County at the Library of Virginia. The survey of this land and the index to that survey clearly use the two "r" spelling of William's name. It is unclear as to when William learned to read and write. It is apparent from the marriage bond and the land records that he could not write until at least 1793. Because clerks recorded his name oftentimes differently within the same document (and the same for his children in Madison County), it is difficult to tell if he was a one "r" Parish or a two "r" Parrish. There is no indication of his being or his children being Quakers in Madison County. The tendency seems to have been to the Christian Church. His namesake child was a magistrate and tavernkeeper in Madison County in the 1840's. If William comes from the Maryland Parrishes, it would solve a mystery that has eluded family researchers for more than a hundred years, for the research stops cold in Bedford County as to his siblings and parents. There was an account that appeared in the 1909 History of Shelby County, Indiana of my William Parrish of Bedford County, Virginia that William was Scottish of Irish extraction who came to Bedford "in the early days." Was he an Ulster Scot who, like so many thousands in the 1700's emigrated from their adopted Ireland into Philadelphia and then down through the Valley of Virginia even into North Carolina and Georgia? Certainly, it is well known that Ulster Scots were among the greatest Revolutionary War American supporters, and George Washington once said he would favor them to comprise his army. Does the research stop cold because William Parrish was the emigrant? Whether or not this William Parrish was an Ulster Scot, this may be the answer to some of the Virginia Par(r)ishes who do not seem to be "tieable" to other lines in Maryland and New England. And not very good records were kept of the sames of these emigrants. "One authority, a New England historian, counts that between 1730 and 1770 at least half a million souls were transferred from Ulster to the colonies, more than half the Presbyterian population of Ulster, and that at the time of the Revolution they made one-sixth of the total population of the colonies. Another and very careful authority fixes the inhabitants of Scottish ancestry in the nine colonies south of New England as about 385,000. He considers that less than half of the entire population of the colonies was of English origin, and that nearly or quite one-third of it had a Scottish ancestry." Source: The Scot in America And The Ulster Scot, Whitelaw Reid, MacMillan, 1912 At any rate, the chart that today is headed by William Parrish and Martha (Patsy) Goode Parrish is an enormous one spreading today throughout the United States. Edgar Edgar L. Parrish e4502w@aol.com

I am going to try this again!! In a message dated 98-07-08 15:34:13 EDT, JGallus457@aol.com writes: << Subj: [MDALLEGA-L] Fwd: NICHOLS-JOHNSON Date: 98-07-08 15:34:13 EDT From: JGallus457@aol.com Reply-to: MDALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com To: MDALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com In a message dated 98-07-08 15:20:01 EDT, JGallus457 writes: << Hi Helen, Look what I found!!! John NICHOLS b ca 1705 d. 1773 (Will Frederick Co. MD) m. ca 1731-32 Margaretha ? ca 1770 issue: John b 1735 d 1803 Jacob George Michael Charlotte John NICHOLS m. 1752-3 Martha J. PAYNE (Daughter of Flayle) John NICHOLS fought in the French and Indian War and both JOHN and son Flayle Rev. Patriots. issue: Floyd (Flayle)1753-4 ( State Senator Sevier Co. TN) John Archebald JESSE b 1776 Jane Mary Katherine Jane, born in Frederick Co. MD married Edward HANCOCK in 1783, a Rev. Patriot. Both died in Bedford Co. VA. Jesse NICHOLS b. 15 June 1776 - 8 Oct 1830 m. 27 Oct 1800 Sally FIELDS(Sarah) 1782-1858 (Buried in TN) issue: Samuel b 1801-1853 John F. Andrew J, Jane Martha Archer Jefferson Massie Harker 1815 Daniel 1817 Elizabeth 1820 Sarah Catherine Samuel S. NICHOLS m. July 8, 1823, Mary (Polly) LEFTWICH 1807 d. aft 1884 ( daughter of Willam LEFTWICH and Ruth AYERS) issue: Sarah J. RUTHA Ann Jesse Cumberland William Andrew J. Mary E. Lockey Harvey Walter (Walton) Martha J.{Twin} Calahill {Twin} Leroy This is from Walton and Dorothy NICHOLS. The papers are located in the Bedford County Museum.(VA) RUTHA Ann NICHOLS m Feb 2 1850, William Whitten JOHNSON Bedford Co. VA Issue: Powhatan Nov 15, 1851 Edward J. Nancy J. Sallie F. b ca 1863 Wm L. (?) ca 1864 Lockey A Verona Della 1869 Samuel W. b June 25, 1871 d. Sept 1910 Russel 1874 >> Oh heck---sorry I wasn't finished-- Samuel JOHNSON m. Blanche Davis PAYNE (these two are where my PAYNE lines cross {Martha PAYNE/JOHN PAYNE} brother and sister) issue: Ruby Belle b Jan 1900 d. Feb 1998 Eulia Mar 1876 Bevey Nov 1907 Haywood Apr. 1904 Henry Osby Jan 1896 William Thomas (Bill) Sept 1905 Mary Ethel Sept 1897 (This is the sister I look so much alike!!) My line is in bold. Do you know which end in Bedford our JOHNSONs lived on. My FRANKLINs are from the South end, but I wasn't sure about the JOHNSONs. For MDALLEGA-L and BEDFORD-L--For your information if anyone needs it. Looking for any PAYNES also in VA and MD. Je >>

Excuse me if I'm a week late with this. There were, as it turns out, two Quaker "Goose Creek Monthly Meetings"; one in Loudon Co. and one in Bedford. -- Am. Encyc. of Quaker Genealogy.

E4502W@aol.com wrote: > > TO: VABEDFOR-L > FROM: E4502W@AOL.COM (EDGAR L. PARRISH) > > Would anyone know the location of a Beaverdam Creek shown in late 1700's > Bedford > County land patents? Is the creek still known by this name? Thanks for any > help. > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > PLEASE do not send MIME/Base 64 "encoded" attachments to the list. Hi Edgar, I show Beaverdam Creek in Bedford county, Virginia, entering the Staunton (Roanoke) River north of Hales Ford at Carter Island Ford, just below the present town of Goodview. It passes Goodview and splits into a West Fork of Beaverdam Creek and an East Fork. There is also a North Fork of Beaverdam flowing into the East Fork. There is a Beaverdam Baptist Church founded in 1803, near the East Fork, close to Chamblissburg, according to the Historical Map. It is still referred to as Beaverdam Creek now, I do believe. I believe this is the same Beaverdam on those early patents you refer to. They probably also reference the Staunton River. Are there any other references to landmarks? I hope this is the one you're looking for! Linda in Florida

TO: VABEDFOR-L FROM: E4502W@AOL.COM (EDGAR L. PARRISH) Would anyone know the location of a Beaverdam Creek shown in late 1700's Bedford County land patents? Is the creek still known by this name? Thanks for any help.

I'm descended from Daniel Candler Pioneer Quaker. Can anyone shed light on Daniel's son John b.1732 who stayed in the area. Has anyone the book, THE VIRGINIA CANDLERS? Thanks, Ed

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_899334392_boundary Content-ID: <0_899334392@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 98-07-01 11:21:05 EDT, FSPRADLIN@delphi.com writes: OK I am going to try this again!!! << `Hi, `I need help. (nothing new!!) How do I find any deaths prior to 1850 `(between 1834 and 1850) and after 1860 (1863-64)? It would answer a `lot of questions if I could find something. Are there any records `from this time period? `And if I find a listing in the death register, says died in Stauton `dist. but can't find them buried in Bedford Co. What do I do? They `had to have been buried in Bedford. `Any help is appreciated by this beginner!! `Jeri >> --part0_899334392_boundary Content-ID: <0_899334392@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <FSPRADLIN@delphi.com> Received: from rly-za03.mx.aol.com (rly-za03.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.99]) by air-za01.mail.aol.com (v45.13) with SMTP; Wed, 01 Jul 1998 11:21:05 2000 Received: from bos1c.delphi.com (bos1c.delphi.com [199.93.4.3]) by rly-za03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id LAA17711 for <JGallus457@aol.com>; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V5.1-8 #23839) id <01IYVUAQW99C8ZYOH5@delphi.com> for JGallus457@aol.com; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:09:50 EDT Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 11:09:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Freddie Spradlin <FSPRADLIN@delphi.com> Subject: Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown To: JGallus457@aol.com Message-id: <01IYVUAQWIWI8ZYOH5@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: INTERNET"JGallus457@aol.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I received a diagnostic message that is somewhat confusing. It would appear that your original message was addressed to VABEDFOR-L-@rootsweb.com vice VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com one too many dashes ;) Regards, Freddie S. listowner On 1-JUL-1998 08:33:50.5 JGallus457 said to FSPRADLIN `----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- `VABEDFOR-L-@rootsweb.com `----- Transcript of session follows ----- `... while talking to rootsweb.com.: `>>> RCPT To:<VABEDFOR-L-@rootsweb.com> `<<< 550 <VABEDFOR-L-@rootsweb.com>... User unknown `550 VABEDFOR-L-@rootsweb.com... User unknown `Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:18:24 EDT `To: VABEDFOR-L-@rootsweb.com `Subject: Death Registers Question `Hi, `I need help. (nothing new!!) How do I find any deaths prior to 1850 `(between 1834 and 1850) and after 1860 (1863-64)? It would answer a `lot of questions if I could find something. Are there any records `from this time period? `And if I find a listing in the death register, says died in Stauton `dist. but can't find them buried in Bedford Co. What do I do? They `had to have been buried in Bedford. `Any help is appreciated by this beginner!! `Jeri --part0_899334392_boundary--

Flo, It is still an active church. Grandma was funeral was there in February, 1998. Jeri

Flo, I can tell you that it is down the street from the Moose Lodge. You can see the Moose lodge from the road (Rt. 122) going towards Smith Mnt. Lake. The cemetery is on the left hand side of the road. My Great Grandparents are buried there. Almost in the road(LOL). Wave to my parents when you go by. They bought my Gr Grandparents house, across 122 from the Moose Lodge. It's a little white house on a hill. Hope this helps, Jeri

No one could be more geographically challenged than I. I can't drive around the small town where I live without a map book open beside me. But Harper's Ferry I must rescue from obscurity. It may be small, but it is historically very important. Remember John Brown ? Also, in the earliest days of the CW Stonewall Jackson had a lot of fun capturing locomotives there to destroy or ship south for the Confederate cause. Later, when WV was being carved from the mother state (with highly questionable legality), the new state was jogged eastward a bit so that those B&O rail lines crossing into VA from MD at Harper's Ferry could be in Northern hands. Both H.F. and Loudoun County, VA, are west of D. C. Loudoun juts further north than any other VA county, but Clarke and Frederick counties lie west of it and H. Ferry. D. E. Mayfield

The folks at rootsweb.com who provide the facilities for this list have added a new wrinke to the listserve software. From now on folks who have their email programs set to add an HTML version of their messages following the plain text posting, will have their messages returned to them. There's supposed to be a webpage at URL: www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm That will explain how to change the "Preferences" of most of the popular email programs around. Regards, Freddie S. owner-VABEDFOR@lists2.rootsweb.com

I recently found an 1825 record re. Henry and James Brown, brothers of Jesse Brown, deceased who were from Williamson Co. TN. Jesse had an estate in Bedford Co. VA. Does anyone know any more about these BROWNs in Williamson County, TN or Bedford Co.,VA? Thanks, Tracy J. Brown Tracy.Brown@eastmansoftware.com Weekends: TJBrownNH@aol.com (Descended from Joseph Brown of Bedford County, Va. and Hezekiah Brown of Clinton County, Ky) (Researching BROWN, DENT, LAWHORN, BANDY, WEST and other surnames)

Dear Bedford county researchers, For those who have written about Morgan's Church, I spoke to my aunt tonight and here is the address: The Reverend Richard Mallory Morgan's Baptist Church Post Office Box 477 Moneta, Virginia 24121 I'm told that there may be some of the church histories left for sale and that there has been some talk of a re-printing. It is 200 pages long and really interesting. There are bios on the ministers over the years and a chronological reading of excerpts from the minutes of the church from 1771 to the present. There are quite a few pictures. It's a wonderful little book and is hardbound. I don't know if Mr. Mallory gets many genealogical inquiries or not! The cemetery is not huge but does have quite a few burials. This particular building is the 6th building they have had and for a time they were split into two different churches, Old Morgans and Morgans churches, the Old Morgans Church being a Primitive Baptist faction that broke off and stayed in one of the older buildings. That group no longer exists. The church has physically moved about some, starting out on the north side of Goose Creek about a mile above Davis Mill. It is now further down toward the town of Moneta, near Hunting Creek. Flo, I'll get the picture of Mr. Wheeler out to you tomorrow. Linda

FModderno@aol.com wrote: > > Harper's Ferry is in Maryland, just across the Potomac from Loudoun County, > where Waterford, VA, and Loudoun County's Goose Creek are. Migrants from > Pennsylania and the port of Philadelphia (Germans, Scotch-Irish and others) > crossed the Potomac River at Harper's Ferry and also a little further > downstream at what is now the US Route 15 bridge connecting Maryland and > Virginia. > > The Great Wagon Road that traversed from Pennsylvania down through the > Shenandoah Valley, on the western side of the Blue Ridge Mountains, and on to > Tennessee, Texas and Georgia, etc., went through Loudoun County. Those who > did not take the Great Wagon Road on through the Shenandoah, took the route > that is now US 15 through Loudoun County and down through Virginia on the > Eastern side of the Blue Ridge Mountains. > > If Harper's Ferry is mentioned in your information about your ancestors, then > Loudoun County's Goose Creek and Waterford are where your Quaker Meeting House > must be located. See my previous message about Waterford's Quaker Meeting > House. > > Francine > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > Planning a Family Reunion? Post your schedule at URL: > http://members.aol.com/camorrison/vareunio/reunion.htm Hi Francine! I'm glad you straightened me out on that. We went to Harpers Ferry a couple of times and I had in my mind that the little point of land it sits on was West Virginia, with the tip of the point being the convergence of the Potomac and Shenandoah Rivers. We left there and drove over Maryland Heights to the Antietam Battlefield and it was a beautiful drive. In any event, one of the best tools I have found for locating towns and even obscure geographic features is this site http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html Just go there and type in Harpers Ferry, and whatever else you may have on it, and it will give you all the information you can imagine, plus maps, etc. I found some pretty unknown and unheard of locations with this query form. It's amazing. By the way, Harper's Ferry is beautiful and I've always wanted to visit Waterford. I've heard and read so much about it over the years. Linda

Dear Bedford Researchers, I am trying to determine the parents or siblings of Thomas Calvin Hodges who is my gg-grandfather. Here is the information I have. Thomas Calvin married Harriet S. Mitchell, dau. of Daniel, 5 Nov. 1849 in Bedford Co. VA. They were 22 and 21 years of age. In the 1860 Bedford Co. census they had Sarah E. 8, William Eldredge 5 (My ggrandfather) Robert M. 3 John W. 1 They lived next door to Benjamin HODGES, a year younger than Thomas, and Jesse & Sallie HODGES who are the right age to be Thomas's parents. (A Jesse had married a Sallie Wood 23 Oct 1826 in Bedford Co.) My Thomas(he may have gone by Calvin) enlisted at Liberty May 1, 1862. At the end of the war he was a prisoner of War. A Jesse D. HODGES enlisted at Liberty on March 2, 1862. He died of wounds and a Register of Claims of Deceased Officers and Soldiers was presented for him by his father Jesse HODGES. Harriet MITCHELL died, and Thomas C. married Mary Susan CALLAHAN and had several more children. Thomas died in 1899 and is in buried in Fairview Cem.,at Buchanan, Va. My GGrandfather William Eldredge HODGES married Sarah Virginia WOOD in Bedford County at Caleb Fuqua's Farm 21 Febrary 1878. Does anyone have any information about any of these Hodges, that might give me a lead? Sincerely, Lynn Snead Blankenship San Saba, TX jerlyn@centex.net

FloCox@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone on the list have a mailing address for the Morgan' Baptist Church, > built in 1771? Is it still in operation? > God bless you all, Flo > FloCox@aol.com > > Researching: > Barton, Birchfield, Bishop, Boothe, Cox, Dooley, Drake, Franklin, Harper, > Huff, Kefauver, Loyd, Marks, McFalls, McQuain, Raines, Simmons, Wheeler - all > from the VA/WV areas. > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > The VAGenWeb's QueryPage for the "Unknown County" is at URL: > http://people.delphi.com/fspradlin/vaquery.htm Hi Flo, I just sent you a message. It is very much in operation and I will call my aunt in Moneta and get the address for you. In fact, she will probably be there for services tonight and I'll wait until she gets in later this evening. They published an excellent history of the church in 1971, in celebration of their 200 years as a congregation and I have a copy. I have a number of relatives buried in the churchyard there. Linda