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In a message dated 5/28/06 7:58:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man in > > his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go over > > 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? > > > My great-grandfather's four brothers left Floyd County, VA for then "west" Virginia about that time, 3 brothers to Fayette county and one to Kanawha County.I read somewhere that the New River (in Kanawha County) had been cleared of snags and boulders and was opened for major river travel southward (past Fayette County), continuing into southwestern Virginia near where they formerly lived. Also coal and salt mining had become major sources of employment. If you come to some conclusion, please let me know. The brothers lived there for about 2-3 years then returned to Floyd County, VA.. J.H. Wright [email protected]

Notes The County lines in Virginia Did not becoome Stablized until after 1880 ----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia Wilson<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: [VABEDFOR] Re: VABEDFOR-D Digest V06 #34 unsubscribe [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: VABEDFOR-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 34 Today's Topics: #1 Re: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedf ["Beverly Yeager" #2 Re: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedf [Lori Martin Administrivia: Do not post/reply to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (DIGEST mode). send all post/replies to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> All messages will be saved and sent to DIGEST subscribers, in turn. When replying, do not "quote" the entire DIGEST message. Delete the irrelevant portions and remember to change the SUBJECT line. You may search the archived postings to this list at URL: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VABEDFOR<http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VABEDFOR> Always be careful about opening unexpected attachments, particularly if you don't recognize the sender's address. ______________________________Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:41:13 -0400 From: "Beverly Yeager" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) I have William Ellis Martin, born 1831-1833 in Bedford County, Virginia, the son of William Joseph Martin and Eleanor Ellis. He was a soldier in the Civil War and served in Company B, 14th VA Infantry, CSA. William died from exposure during the Civil War at Williamsburg College Hospital, Virginia (in 1863). He was married to Emily Updyke. He is buried in the Martin Family Cemetery in Huddleston, Bedford County, Virginia. Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Martin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) > My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to > locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, > Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, > VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on > Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives > & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at their > records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major brick > wall. > > My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if > he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in > Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. > > We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin > & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & > Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's > the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, > suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to 1853 > in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any bells > with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of barrels). > > William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area as > well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why I > am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). > > Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man in > his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go over > 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? > > Much thanks, > Lori J. Martin > > > - ------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > ______________________________ ______________________________Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 14:04:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori Martin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) Thank you Beverly, but my William Martin lived until 18 Dec 1894 when, after drinking in Charleston, he somehow fell off his horse and drowned in the Elk Two Mile creek. He was found with his head in the creek. I have a very small article about it from a Charleston newspaper, plus some info from my husband's Uncle Virgil. It wasn't in the article, but my husband's uncle said that the horse came home without him and that's how they knew something was wrong. Thank you anyway! Lori Beverly Yeager wrote: I have William Ellis Martin, born 1831-1833 in Bedford County, Virginia, the son of William Joseph Martin and Eleanor Ellis. He was a soldier in the Civil War and served in Company B, 14th VA Infantry, CSA. William died from exposure during the Civil War at Williamsburg College Hospital, Virginia (in 1863). He was married to Emily Updyke. He is buried in the Martin Family Cemetery in Huddleston, Bedford County, Virginia. Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Martin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) > My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to > locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, > Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, > VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on > Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives > & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at their > records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major brick > wall. > > My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if > he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in > Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. > > We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin > & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & > Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's > the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, > suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to 1853 > in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any bells > with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of barrels). > > William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area as > well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why I > am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). > > Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man in > his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go over > 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? > > Much thanks, > Lori J. Martin > > > - ------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > ______________________________ ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== The Bedford Co VAGenWeb QueryPage is located at URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vabedfor/bedf-qry.htm<http://www.rootsweb.com/~vabedfor/bedf-qry.htm> - ------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. 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unsubscribe [email protected] wrote: VABEDFOR-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 34 Today's Topics: #1 Re: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedf ["Beverly Yeager" #2 Re: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedf [Lori Martin Administrivia: Do not post/reply to [email protected] (DIGEST mode). send all post/replies to [email protected] All messages will be saved and sent to DIGEST subscribers, in turn. When replying, do not "quote" the entire DIGEST message. Delete the irrelevant portions and remember to change the SUBJECT line. You may search the archived postings to this list at URL: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VABEDFOR Always be careful about opening unexpected attachments, particularly if you don't recognize the sender's address. ______________________________Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:41:13 -0400 From: "Beverly Yeager" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) I have William Ellis Martin, born 1831-1833 in Bedford County, Virginia, the son of William Joseph Martin and Eleanor Ellis. He was a soldier in the Civil War and served in Company B, 14th VA Infantry, CSA. William died from exposure during the Civil War at Williamsburg College Hospital, Virginia (in 1863). He was married to Emily Updyke. He is buried in the Martin Family Cemetery in Huddleston, Bedford County, Virginia. Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Martin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) > My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to > locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, > Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, > VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on > Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives > & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at their > records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major brick > wall. > > My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if > he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in > Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. > > We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin > & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & > Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's > the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, > suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to 1853 > in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any bells > with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of barrels). > > William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area as > well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why I > am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). > > Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man in > his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go over > 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? > > Much thanks, > Lori J. Martin > > > - ------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > ______________________________ ______________________________Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 14:04:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori Martin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) Thank you Beverly, but my William Martin lived until 18 Dec 1894 when, after drinking in Charleston, he somehow fell off his horse and drowned in the Elk Two Mile creek. He was found with his head in the creek. I have a very small article about it from a Charleston newspaper, plus some info from my husband's Uncle Virgil. It wasn't in the article, but my husband's uncle said that the horse came home without him and that's how they knew something was wrong. Thank you anyway! Lori Beverly Yeager wrote: I have William Ellis Martin, born 1831-1833 in Bedford County, Virginia, the son of William Joseph Martin and Eleanor Ellis. He was a soldier in the Civil War and served in Company B, 14th VA Infantry, CSA. William died from exposure during the Civil War at Williamsburg College Hospital, Virginia (in 1863). He was married to Emily Updyke. He is buried in the Martin Family Cemetery in Huddleston, Bedford County, Virginia. Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Martin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) > My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to > locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, > Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, > VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on > Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives > & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at their > records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major brick > wall. > > My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if > he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in > Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. > > We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin > & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & > Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's > the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, > suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to 1853 > in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any bells > with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of barrels). > > William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area as > well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why I > am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). > > Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man in > his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go over > 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? > > Much thanks, > Lori J. Martin > > > - ------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > ______________________________ ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== The Bedford Co VAGenWeb QueryPage is located at URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vabedfor/bedf-qry.htm - ------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Cynthia A. 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I have William Ellis Martin, born 1831-1833 in Bedford County, Virginia, the son of William Joseph Martin and Eleanor Ellis. He was a soldier in the Civil War and served in Company B, 14th VA Infantry, CSA. William died from exposure during the Civil War at Williamsburg College Hospital, Virginia (in 1863). He was married to Emily Updyke. He is buried in the Martin Family Cemetery in Huddleston, Bedford County, Virginia. Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) > My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to > locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, > Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, > VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on > Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives > & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at their > records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major brick > wall. > > My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if > he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in > Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. > > We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin > & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & > Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's > the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, > suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to 1853 > in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any bells > with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of barrels). > > William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area as > well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why I > am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). > > Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man in > his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go over > 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? > > Much thanks, > Lori J. Martin > > > - ------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > ______________________________

Thank you Beverly, but my William Martin lived until 18 Dec 1894 when, after drinking in Charleston, he somehow fell off his horse and drowned in the Elk Two Mile creek. He was found with his head in the creek. I have a very small article about it from a Charleston newspaper, plus some info from my husband's Uncle Virgil. It wasn't in the article, but my husband's uncle said that the horse came home without him and that's how they knew something was wrong. Thank you anyway! Lori Beverly Yeager <[email protected]> wrote: I have William Ellis Martin, born 1831-1833 in Bedford County, Virginia, the son of William Joseph Martin and Eleanor Ellis. He was a soldier in the Civil War and served in Company B, 14th VA Infantry, CSA. William died from exposure during the Civil War at Williamsburg College Hospital, Virginia (in 1863). He was married to Emily Updyke. He is buried in the Martin Family Cemetery in Huddleston, Bedford County, Virginia. Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Martin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) > My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to > locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, > Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, > VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on > Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives > & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at their > records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major brick > wall. > > My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if > he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in > Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. > > We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin > & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & > Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's > the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, > suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to 1853 > in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any bells > with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of barrels). > > William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area as > well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why I > am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). > > Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man in > his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go over > 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? > > Much thanks, > Lori J. Martin > > > - ------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > ______________________________ ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== The Bedford Co VAGenWeb QueryPage is located at URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vabedfor/bedf-qry.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

Hi, Did your Martin's marry into the Huddleston's at any point? Do you have a Job Martin? If so, I may be able to help a little. My Huddleston who married a Martin started in Bucks County, PA - moved to Bedford County, VA and than on to Kanawha County, VA/WV in the same time frame you have below. I have a lot more documentation on the Huddleston's than the Martin's. Kathie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lori Martin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:18 PM > Subject: [VABEDFOR] William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly > Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) > > >> My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to >> locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, >> Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, >> VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on >> Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives >> & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at >> their records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major >> brick wall. >> >> My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if >> he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in >> Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. >> >> We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin >> & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & >> Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's >> the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, >> suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to >> 1853 in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any >> bells with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of >> barrels). >> >> William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area >> as well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why >> I am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). >> >> Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man >> in his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go >> over 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? >> >> Much thanks, >> Lori J. Martin >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ >> countries) for 2¢/min or less. >> >> >> ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== >> Messages from this list are "warranted" to be free from viruses ... >> BUT some virus might masquerade as a mailing list message >> ALWAYS be careful with unexpected attachments in email messages. >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/345 - Release Date: 5/22/2006 >> > > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > The archives of this list can be searched at URL: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=VABEDFOR > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== Remember, all messages to be posted to the list should be addressed to: [email protected]

Hey There, I don't know the date or dates, but my father-in-law left Radford, VA before 1948 to work in the mines in Gary, W V. Happy Hunting doc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Rynd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [VABEDFOR] William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) > Have you been to the Roanoke Library in Roanoke Va, They have an excellent > Genealogy Dept. They also,have other states. > Alot of men went to West Va. to work in the coal mines.I have great uncles > who went there and worked in the mines, some returned to Bedford Co. > Helen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lori Martin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:18 PM > Subject: [VABEDFOR] William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly > Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) > > >> My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to >> locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, >> Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, >> VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on >> Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives >> & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at >> their records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major >> brick wall. >> >> My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if >> he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in >> Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. >> >> We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin >> & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & >> Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's >> the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, >> suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to >> 1853 in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any >> bells with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of >> barrels). >> >> William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area >> as well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why >> I am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). >> >> Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man >> in his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go >> over 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? >> >> Much thanks, >> Lori J. Martin >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ >> countries) for 2¢/min or less. >> >> >> ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== >> Messages from this list are "warranted" to be free from viruses ... >> BUT some virus might masquerade as a mailing list message >> ALWAYS be careful with unexpected attachments in email messages. >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/345 - Release Date: 5/22/2006 >> > > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > The archives of this list can be searched at URL: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=VABEDFOR >

Have you been to the Roanoke Library in Roanoke Va, They have an excellent Genealogy Dept. They also,have other states. Alot of men went to West Va. to work in the coal mines.I have great uncles who went there and worked in the mines, some returned to Bedford Co. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: [VABEDFOR] William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke, VA), Kanawha, VA (now WV) > My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to > locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, > Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, > VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on > Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives > & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at their > records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major brick > wall. > > My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if > he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in > Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. > > We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin > & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & > Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's > the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, > suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to 1853 > in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any bells > with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of barrels). > > William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area as > well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why I > am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). > > Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man in > his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go over > 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? > > Much thanks, > Lori J. Martin > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > Messages from this list are "warranted" to be free from viruses ... > BUT some virus might masquerade as a mailing list message > ALWAYS be careful with unexpected attachments in email messages. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/345 - Release Date: 5/22/2006 >

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Go to Rootsweb.com. Find mailing lists, and follow the instructions. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Perz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:49 PM Subject: RE: [VABEDFOR] William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to possibly Roanoke... > >> > How does one unsubscribe from this list? >> > >> >> The best and easiest way is to follow the instructions received in the >> welcome email that you got when subscribing to the list. > > Yes, I understand that. If one does not have that welcome email at hand > through, say, computer crash, which is what happened to me, I wonder if > someone on the list might care to help me unsub. > > Thank you. > > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > This list is intended for the exchange of genealogical information or > questions concerning Bedford Co, VA, families.

I would lean more toward the Shaon possibility as the Shaon and Kasey families were closely entwined for many years. Also, the names Elizabeth and Eleanor are used in both families. Just an additional thought..........the Kasey surety caught my attention! Sally Kasey E., Kasey and Shaon desc.

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How does one unsubscribe from this list? > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VABEDFOR] William MARTIN, born 1831 Bedford Co., VA (to > possibly Roanoke... > > > I would lean more toward the Shaon possibility as the Shaon and Kasey > families were closely entwined for many years. Also, the names > Elizabeth and > Eleanor are used in both families. Just an additional > thought..........the > Kasey surety caught my attention! > > Sally Kasey E., Kasey and Shaon desc. > > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > This list is intended for the exchange of genealogical information or > questions concerning Bedford Co, VA, families. >

Lori, The marriage bonds of Bedford County, Virginia, list the marriage of William Martin, Jr., son of Joseph Martin (not William Martin), to Eleanor (not Elizabeth) Ellis on Oct 5, 1830, (not 1831) at Bedford County. The "Jr." in this case denoting a younger William Martin, rather than a son of a William Martin. If you are sure that your William Martin was a son of a William Martin and his wife's given name was Elizabeth, then this would seem to preclude this William Martin, Jr., from being your ancestor. Here is the listing from the Bedford County Rootsweb site: * Oct. 5, 1830; William Martin, Jr., s Joseph & Eleanor Ellis, dt Benjamin; Newlon Kasey, Surety Also, the first William Martin listed in the 1850 Kanawha County, Virginia, census was age 19, but appears to be the son of Dioclesian Martin, not William Martin. The second William Martin listed in the 1850 Kanawha County, Virginia, census was age 16 and appears to be the son of Eliza Martin. If your William Martin's mother was Elizabeth, then this second William Martin would seem more probably your ancestor, but with a date of birth in 1834 rather than 1831. The third William Martin listed in the 1850 Kanawha County, Virginia, census was age 14 and apparently the son of John Wright, which seems to preclude him from being your ancestor. Did you obtain your William Martin's parents' names from his marriage record? If not, you may want to double check your source for their names. Hope the above is of some help to you. Best wishes, Bob Grant Lori Martin wrote: >My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at their records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major brick wall. > > My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. > > We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to 1853 in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any bells with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of barrels). > > William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area as well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why I am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). > > Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man in his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go over 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? > > Much thanks, > Lori J. Martin > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > >==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== >Messages from this list are "warranted" to be free from viruses ... >BUT some virus might masquerade as a mailing list message >ALWAYS be careful with unexpected attachments in email messages. > > > -- Robert N. 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My husband & I are getting very frustrated and discouraged in trying to locate proof of his GGGgrandfather, William MARTIN, a Kanawha County, Va/WVa man, being born to a William & Elizabeth Martin in Bedford County, VA in 1831. We've been through all the censuses, several records on Ancestry.com, asked for research to be performed at the WV State Archives & we've even been down to the Bedford County Museum in VA to look at their records, all without gleaning anything concrete. This is a major brick wall. My understanding is that William MARTIN was born approximately 1831 (if he didn't lie on his 1856 Kanawha marriage record about his age) in Bedford County to parents named William & Elizabeth Martin. We have found two possibilities for William's parentage: William Martin & Elizabeth Shaon, married in 1816 in Bedford; and William Martin & Elizabeth Ellis, married in 1831. We have no way yet of confirming he's the son of either couple or neither couple. Does anyone have any tips, suggestions, clues, on how to find some kind of birth record prior to 1853 in Virginia? Or, even better, does this William Martin ring any bells with anyone? His occupation was that of a cooper (maker of barrels). William &/or his family may have also lived in the Roanoke County area as well before moving to Kanawha County/Kanawha Valley area (which is why I am also sending this to the Roanoke & Botetourt mailing lists). Speaking of which, do any history buffs out there know why a young man in his early 20s would leave the Bedford county &/or Roanoke area to go over 200 miles over to Kanawha circa 1845? Much thanks, Lori J. Martin --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

HeritageQuest is still available from Godfrey Library. I was just on their site. Judith Arnn-Knight wrote: > Fern--I am not sure it is indexed. It is available full-text through > HeritageQuest but there is no indication of an index being published > with the volumes. Each has a table of contents but, again, I see no > indication of an index for any/all of them. If you tell me what you > are looking for I can check. I did not see any Bufords, Earlys, etc > as the main names for which charts are given but they may be embedded > in names I did not recognize. > > If any of you wants to use Heritage Quest it is available lots of > places; the Godfrey Library in CT used to include it in their > membership but the contract has expired. The Family History Centers > have it I think and probably your local library does--check with them > for access. We live in rural NC and I was amazed and overjoyed to see > that the Library Division of NC buys a subscription for public > libraries. I can access the info from home by using the global > password for our county that I got when I registered at the library. > For those of you who belong to the NE Genealogy and Historical Society > [think that is close] they also offer access through a membership to > their society. > If you are not familiar with it--do check your local library--LOTS of > great info to include full-text books, all the censuses [although not > all are indexed completely yet] plus access to PERSI, a database of > genealogy periodicals produced by the Allen County [IN] Public Library. > > judy arnn-knight > > > Fern wrote: >> Does anyone on this list have the Index for the 4 volume set of books >> entitled "Some Prominent Virginia Families" by Louise P. du Bellet?? >> >> Thank you, Fern >> >> >> ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message containing ONLY >> the one word "unsubscribe" to [email protected] >> Leave the subject line blank or use the word unsubscribe. >> >> >> > > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > The archives of this list can be searched at URL: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=VABEDFOR > > >

Fern--I am not sure it is indexed. It is available full-text through HeritageQuest but there is no indication of an index being published with the volumes. Each has a table of contents but, again, I see no indication of an index for any/all of them. If you tell me what you are looking for I can check. I did not see any Bufords, Earlys, etc as the main names for which charts are given but they may be embedded in names I did not recognize. If any of you wants to use Heritage Quest it is available lots of places; the Godfrey Library in CT used to include it in their membership but the contract has expired. The Family History Centers have it I think and probably your local library does--check with them for access. We live in rural NC and I was amazed and overjoyed to see that the Library Division of NC buys a subscription for public libraries. I can access the info from home by using the global password for our county that I got when I registered at the library. For those of you who belong to the NE Genealogy and Historical Society [think that is close] they also offer access through a membership to their society. If you are not familiar with it--do check your local library--LOTS of great info to include full-text books, all the censuses [although not all are indexed completely yet] plus access to PERSI, a database of genealogy periodicals produced by the Allen County [IN] Public Library. judy arnn-knight Fern wrote: > Does anyone on this list have the Index for the 4 volume set of books entitled "Some Prominent Virginia Families" by Louise P. du Bellet?? > > Thank you, Fern > > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message containing ONLY > the one word "unsubscribe" to [email protected] > Leave the subject line blank or use the word unsubscribe. > > >

Thanks Judy, good to hear from you again............. It has an index, Higginson Books is selling it for $5.00 Fern ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Arnn-Knight" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [VABEDFOR] Question about a book please > Fern--I am not sure it is indexed. It is available full-text through > HeritageQuest but there is no indication of an index being published with > the volumes. Each has a table of contents but, again, I see no indication > of an index for any/all of them. If you tell me what you are looking for > I can check. I did not see any Bufords, Earlys, etc as the main names for > which charts are given but they may be embedded in names I did not > recognize. > > If any of you wants to use Heritage Quest it is available lots of places; > the Godfrey Library in CT used to include it in their membership but the > contract has expired. The Family History Centers have it I think and > probably your local library does--check with them for access. We live in > rural NC and I was amazed and overjoyed to see that the Library Division > of NC buys a subscription for public libraries. I can access the info > from home by using the global password for our county that I got when I > registered at the library. For those of you who belong to the NE > Genealogy and Historical Society [think that is close] they also offer > access through a membership to their society. > If you are not familiar with it--do check your local library--LOTS of > great info to include full-text books, all the censuses [although not all > are indexed completely yet] plus access to PERSI, a database of genealogy > periodicals produced by the Allen County [IN] Public Library. > > judy arnn-knight > > > Fern wrote: >> Does anyone on this list have the Index for the 4 volume set of books >> entitled "Some Prominent Virginia Families" by Louise P. du Bellet?? >> >> Thank you, Fern >> >> >> ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message containing ONLY >> the one word "unsubscribe" to [email protected] >> Leave the subject line blank or use the word unsubscribe. >> >> >> > > > ==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ==== > The archives of this list can be searched at URL: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=VABEDFOR > >