Hi Pat, Thanks so much for all the information. I am descended from Robert Poague/Elizabeth Preston's son Thomas Poage who married Agnes McClanahan (daughter of Robert and Sarah) on April 27, 1762. Their daughter Mary (Polly) Poague married Thomas Wilson and their daughter Agnes is my great great grand mother. Does this connect? Many years ago I did field work for my master's thesis on urban geography in Londonderry without a clue at the time that my ancestors came from there. I am so anxious to see Derry again with different eyes. We will have a walking tour of he city which I am really looking forward to. Jane Patricia J Weisshaus wrote: > Jane, > > I can't believe it. I, too, am descended from Robert McClenachan through > his daughter, Agnes McClenachan Wilson Dean. > > I believe that Sarah Breckenridge was the daughter of Alexander > Breckenridge and Jane Preston, although there are those who dispute this. > Following are the notes I have from my genealogy database: > > "Although most historians agree, the fact that whether or not Sarah is > the daughter of Alexander Breckenridge is disputed by James Malcolm > Breckenridge in WILLIAM CLARK BRECKENRIDGE ; HIS LIFE, LINEAGE AND > WRITINGS, page 119. > > As further confirmation of her birth, it is clearly stated that she is > Alexander's daughter by grand nephew, Rev. Robert J.Breckenridge in letter > to Lyman Draper dated 18 Aug. 1851 found in PRESTON AND VIRGINIA PAPERS OF > THE DRAPER COLLECTION OF MANUSCRIPTS, 6ZZ2a (Roll 122). > > Death date can be assumed to be near June 17, 1794 by Augusta County Court > Record Book XXIII, page 126 because Alexander McClenachan and Alex St. > Clair are appointed administrators of the estate of Sarah McClenachan > (CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, Volume I, page > 277). Although a copy of this decree was found in the Family History > Library, I have not yet found any probate. > > The marriage possibly took place in Ireland before emigration and will > probably be impossible to establish, given the nature of Irish records. > > TODO: Try to find marriage in Ireland before emigration" > > According to what someone wrote on this list, they probably came from > Donegal in the Lettterkenny area. I dn't know if it is possible (I don't > think so) to find a marriage for Robert and Sarah Breckenridge. I don't > know if church records for Donegal, Letterkenny area, are available in Dublin . > > I have a friend who lives in Antrim, and she is constantly reading > newspapers which go back pretty far in Dublin. You might want to take a > look at that. > > Good luck and contact me after you get back. I'm curious to know from which > child you are descended. > > Pat > > At 02:54 PM 5/9/2004, you wrote: > >I am descended from Alexander Breckenridge as well as Robert Poague and Robert > >McClanahan. At least Breckenridge settled in Chambersburg PA for a short time > >before going to Staunton VA. I live about 12 miles from Chambersburg. I > >am leaving > >for Ireland next week and while I expect very little free time in > >Londonderry can > >anyone suggest any books that might be available there or questions I can > >ask the > >guides and others I meet about these families or generally about emigrants > >of the > >1720-40's - where they would have left from etc. Most of these families > >seem to > >have been from the Londonderry area. Jane > > > >Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > > > Pat, > > > Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was > > > born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. > > > Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. > > > James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in > > Augusta > > > Co, Va. > > > Gay Nix > > > > > > >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship > > > >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in > > some way. > > > > > > > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of > > interested > > > >to anyone. > > > > > > > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to > > > >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of > > > >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about > > > >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married > > > >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by > > > >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, > > > >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only > > > >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See > > if any > > > >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in > > same > > > >area. > > > > > > > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states > > > >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of > > > >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one > > > >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I > > > >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I > > > >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and > > > >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex > > > >St. Clair witness. > > > > > > > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship > > > >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, > > > >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is > > > >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. > > > > > > > >Pat > > > > > > > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > >>Deborah, > > > >>I only have information on James Patton. > > > >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. > > > >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and > > all the > > > >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got > > > >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. > > > >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus > > and the > > > >>grave yard, so much history in the area. > > > >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. > > > >> > > > >> Gay Nix > > > >> > > > >> > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > ****************************************************************
Was Agnes McClenachen Wilson Dean the dau. of Robert & Sarah or was the Agnes that m Thomas Pogue? I'm confused. Sue in Newport ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Ehemann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > Hi Pat, Thanks so much for all the information. I am descended from Robert > Poague/Elizabeth Preston's son Thomas Poage who married Agnes McClanahan (daughter > of Robert and Sarah) on April 27, 1762. Their daughter Mary (Polly) Poague married > Thomas Wilson and their daughter Agnes is my great great grand mother. Does this > connect? Many years ago I did field work for my master's thesis on urban geography > in Londonderry without a clue at the time that my ancestors came from there. I am > so anxious to see Derry again with different eyes. We will have a walking tour of > he city which I am really looking forward to. Jane > > Patricia J Weisshaus wrote: > > > Jane, > > > > I can't believe it. I, too, am descended from Robert McClenachan through > > his daughter, Agnes McClenachan Wilson Dean. > > > > I believe that Sarah Breckenridge was the daughter of Alexander > > Breckenridge and Jane Preston, although there are those who dispute this. > > Following are the notes I have from my genealogy database: > > > > "Although most historians agree, the fact that whether or not Sarah is > > the daughter of Alexander Breckenridge is disputed by James Malcolm > > Breckenridge in WILLIAM CLARK BRECKENRIDGE ; HIS LIFE, LINEAGE AND > > WRITINGS, page 119. > > > > As further confirmation of her birth, it is clearly stated that she is > > Alexander's daughter by grand nephew, Rev. Robert J.Breckenridge in letter > > to Lyman Draper dated 18 Aug. 1851 found in PRESTON AND VIRGINIA PAPERS OF > > THE DRAPER COLLECTION OF MANUSCRIPTS, 6ZZ2a (Roll 122). > > > > Death date can be assumed to be near June 17, 1794 by Augusta County Court > > Record Book XXIII, page 126 because Alexander McClenachan and Alex St. > > Clair are appointed administrators of the estate of Sarah McClenachan > > (CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, Volume I, page > > 277). Although a copy of this decree was found in the Family History > > Library, I have not yet found any probate. > > > > The marriage possibly took place in Ireland before emigration and will > > probably be impossible to establish, given the nature of Irish records. > > > > TODO: Try to find marriage in Ireland before emigration" > > > > According to what someone wrote on this list, they probably came from > > Donegal in the Lettterkenny area. I dn't know if it is possible (I don't > > think so) to find a marriage for Robert and Sarah Breckenridge. I don't > > know if church records for Donegal, Letterkenny area, are available in Dublin . > > > > I have a friend who lives in Antrim, and she is constantly reading > > newspapers which go back pretty far in Dublin. You might want to take a > > look at that. > > > > Good luck and contact me after you get back. I'm curious to know from which > > child you are descended. > > > > Pat > > > > At 02:54 PM 5/9/2004, you wrote: > > >I am descended from Alexander Breckenridge as well as Robert Poague and Robert > > >McClanahan. At least Breckenridge settled in Chambersburg PA for a short time > > >before going to Staunton VA. I live about 12 miles from Chambersburg. I > > >am leaving > > >for Ireland next week and while I expect very little free time in > > >Londonderry can > > >anyone suggest any books that might be available there or questions I can > > >ask the > > >guides and others I meet about these families or generally about emigrants > > >of the > > >1720-40's - where they would have left from etc. Most of these families > > >seem to > > >have been from the Londonderry area. Jane > > > > > >Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > > > > > Pat, > > > > Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was > > > > born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. > > > > Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. > > > > James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in > > > Augusta > > > > Co, Va. > > > > Gay Nix > > > > > > > > >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship > > > > >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in > > > some way. > > > > > > > > > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of > > > interested > > > > >to anyone. > > > > > > > > > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to > > > > >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of > > > > >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about > > > > >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married > > > > >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by > > > > >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, > > > > >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only > > > > >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See > > > if any > > > > >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in > > > same > > > > >area. > > > > > > > > > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states > > > > >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of > > > > >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one > > > > >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I > > > > >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I > > > > >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and > > > > >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex > > > > >St. Clair witness. > > > > > > > > > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship > > > > >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, > > > > >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is > > > > >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. > > > > > > > > > >Pat > > > > > > > > > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > > >>Deborah, > > > > >>I only have information on James Patton. > > > > >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. > > > > >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and > > > all the > > > > >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got > > > > >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. > > > > >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus > > > and the > > > > >>grave yard, so much history in the area. > > > > >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. > > > > >> > > > > >> Gay Nix > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >
Agnes was the daughter of Robert McClenachan and Sarah Breckenridge. Pat At 01:20 PM 5/10/2004, Sue/Alex wrote: >Was Agnes McClenachen Wilson Dean the dau. of Robert & Sarah or was the >Agnes that m Thomas Pogue? I'm confused. >Sue in Newport >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jane Ehemann" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 7:12 AM >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > > > > Hi Pat, Thanks so much for all the information. I am descended from >Robert > > Poague/Elizabeth Preston's son Thomas Poage who married Agnes McClanahan >(daughter > > of Robert and Sarah) on April 27, 1762. Their daughter Mary (Polly) Poague >married > > Thomas Wilson and their daughter Agnes is my great great grand mother. >Does this > > connect? Many years ago I did field work for my master's thesis on urban >geography > > in Londonderry without a clue at the time that my ancestors came from >there. I am > > so anxious to see Derry again with different eyes. We will have a walking >tour of > > he city which I am really looking forward to. Jane > > > > Patricia J Weisshaus wrote: > > > > > Jane, > > > > > > I can't believe it. I, too, am descended from Robert McClenachan through > > > his daughter, Agnes McClenachan Wilson Dean. > > > > > > I believe that Sarah Breckenridge was the daughter of Alexander > > > Breckenridge and Jane Preston, although there are those who dispute >this. > > > Following are the notes I have from my genealogy database: > > > > > > "Although most historians agree, the fact that whether or not Sarah is > > > the daughter of Alexander Breckenridge is disputed by James Malcolm > > > Breckenridge in WILLIAM CLARK BRECKENRIDGE ; HIS LIFE, LINEAGE AND > > > WRITINGS, page 119. > > > > > > As further confirmation of her birth, it is clearly stated that she is > > > Alexander's daughter by grand nephew, Rev. Robert J.Breckenridge in >letter > > > to Lyman Draper dated 18 Aug. 1851 found in PRESTON AND VIRGINIA PAPERS >OF > > > THE DRAPER COLLECTION OF MANUSCRIPTS, 6ZZ2a (Roll 122). > > > > > > Death date can be assumed to be near June 17, 1794 by Augusta County >Court > > > Record Book XXIII, page 126 because Alexander McClenachan and Alex St. > > > Clair are appointed administrators of the estate of Sarah McClenachan > > > (CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, Volume I, page > > > 277). Although a copy of this decree was found in the Family History > > > Library, I have not yet found any probate. > > > > > > The marriage possibly took place in Ireland before emigration and will > > > probably be impossible to establish, given the nature of Irish records. > > > > > > TODO: Try to find marriage in Ireland before emigration" > > > > > > According to what someone wrote on this list, they probably came from > > > Donegal in the Lettterkenny area. I dn't know if it is possible (I don't > > > think so) to find a marriage for Robert and Sarah Breckenridge. I don't > > > know if church records for Donegal, Letterkenny area, are available in >Dublin . > > > > > > I have a friend who lives in Antrim, and she is constantly reading > > > newspapers which go back pretty far in Dublin. You might want to take a > > > look at that. > > > > > > Good luck and contact me after you get back. I'm curious to know from >which > > > child you are descended. > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > At 02:54 PM 5/9/2004, you wrote: > > > >I am descended from Alexander Breckenridge as well as Robert Poague and >Robert > > > >McClanahan. At least Breckenridge settled in Chambersburg PA for a >short time > > > >before going to Staunton VA. I live about 12 miles from Chambersburg. >I > > > >am leaving > > > >for Ireland next week and while I expect very little free time in > > > >Londonderry can > > > >anyone suggest any books that might be available there or questions I >can > > > >ask the > > > >guides and others I meet about these families or generally about >emigrants > > > >of the > > > >1720-40's - where they would have left from etc. Most of these >families > > > >seem to > > > >have been from the Londonderry area. Jane > > > > > > > >Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > > > > > > > Pat, > > > > > Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton >who was > > > > > born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. > > > > > Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John >Preston. > > > > > James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in > > > > Augusta > > > > > Co, Va. > > > > > Gay Nix > > > > > > > > > > >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a >relationship > > > > > >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was >in > > > > some way. > > > > > > > > > > > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of > > > > interested > > > > > >to anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 >(I to > > > > > >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant >of > > > > > >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks >about > > > > > >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly >married > > > > > >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, >Ireland by > > > > > >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, > > > > > >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who >was only > > > > > >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. >See > > > > if any > > > > > >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges >in > > > > same > > > > > >area. > > > > > > > > > > > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he >states > > > > > >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the >parish of > > > > > >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our >Lord one > > > > > >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife >and son I > > > > > >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and >whereas I > > > > > >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and > > > > > >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son >John...." Alex > > > > > >St. Clair witness. > > > > > > > > > > > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a >relationship > > > > > >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from >Ireland, > > > > > >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden >name is > > > > > >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. > > > > > > > > > > > >Pat > > > > > > > > > > > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > > > >>Deborah, > > > > > >>I only have information on James Patton. > > > > > >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. > > > > > >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and > > > > all the > > > > > >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful >country, got > > > > > >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. > > > > > >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage >campus > > > > and the > > > > > >>grave yard, so much history in the area. > > > > > >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Gay Nix > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > > **************************************************************** > > > List Administrator > > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************