Well, I think there are Illinois records available prior to 1818. It just depends on what boundary the area falls under *now*. The land covering Illinois wasn't under U.S. control until 1778 when it was captured from the British. Virginia then laid claim to the area covering and including Illinois and ceded it to the U.S. Government in 1784. The Northwest Territory was created from this in 1787 and it included present-day Illinois. It was further carved and shaped in 1800 when the Indiana Territory was created, and it included present-day Illinois. In 1809, the Illinois Territory was created with the capital as Kaskaskia. Then, in 1818, it was admitted as a state. So, depending on the year during the timeline, you might be able to find records for Illinois in these other areas. Not to say that anyone is "wrong", but to say that someone was born in Illinois prior to even 1778 is bordering upon the impossible. The French did own it until 1763 when they ceded it to the British after the French and Indian War, and then the British had it until 1778 when it was captured by the Americans. So, a 1757 birth year for Hugh Caperton was likely in an area known then as Augusta County, Virginia, but I wouldn't think it was in the present-day area of Illinois. Again, hope that's helpful to someone .... Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Rookard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > Marjorie is correct. > > I hope no one expends too much effort trying to track down records in > Illinois prior to 3 Dec 1818, when it became a state and was admitted to the > Union. > > The Territory of Illinois was created by an act of congress in 1809. By > territory, I mean wilderness; then known as Illinwek. > > Previous to this, what we now know as IL belonged to the Commonwealth of > Virginia, whose border stretched to present day western Wisconsin. > > This area was controlled by the French from 1675 until 1763, being reached > by the French Jesuit missionaries, Jacques Marquette and Louis Joliet on 20 > Jan 1673. > > The British had a short speight in here towards the end of European control, > just. previous to Virginia's accession. > > So, the county of Hugh Caperton's birth would have been Orange Co, VA, since > Augusta was not formed from it until 1778. > > > > > Marjorie wrote: > > > Daniel, In 1757, there was no Mattoon nor Coles Co. Illinois. Illinois did > > not become a state until 1818; I live in Illinois and I am positive about > > this. > > > > >Gay, > > >I have the following: > > >Hugh Adam Caperton b. ca 1757 Mattoon, Coles CO., IL > > >d. ca 1782 in Estill's Defeat > > >m. Elizabeth B. Miller b. ca 1757 Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef > > >1828 in KY. > > >Elizabeth B Miller was the daughter of Jacob Miller & Elizabeth Fudge. > Hugh > > >Adam Caperton was her 1st husband. I don't have a marriage date for them. > > I > > >show that they had 5 children: George b. ca 1777 in Bertie CO., NC; > > >Elizabeth; Conrad Caperton b. ca 1779; Hugh Caperton b. ca 1781 Bertie > CO., > > >NC d. 1847 Trigg CO., KY; and John Caperton b. ca 1785 Bertie CO., NC and > > >died bef 1880 in TN. > > >As far as the Thompson's are concerned I have some information on the > > >Thompson's being buried in the Wolfe Cemetery on J. V.Crenshaw Farm 2 > miles > > >North of Meadowview, VA. Willis G. Corbitt visited this cemetery in 1959 > > >and sent me the following list: > > > > > >THOMPSON, John Oct 1, 1807-Aug 9, 1878 > > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth H (FUDGE) April 1, 1807-July 6, 1880 (his > wife) > > >THOMPSON, Jane N. July 2, 1814-Jan 21 1873 ? > > >THOMPSON, John R. June 22, 1874-Dec 19, 1876 > ? > > >THOMPSON, Daniel T. March 24, 1888--Aug 23, 1888 > > >THOMPSON, Willie Hubert May 13, 1890--Feb 25, 1891 > (son > > >of S.F. & T.V.) > > >THOMPSON, John T. April 20, 1813--June 21, > 1813 > > >? > > >THOMPSON, ? June 18, 1850--? (dau > of > > >J.T. & E) > > >THOMPSON, Adam Fudge June 24, 1835--May 10, 1904 (son > > of > > >John & E.H.) > > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth A. (wife) May 30, 1847--Dec 5, 1888 (dau > of > > >Robert Thonmpson) > > >THOMPSON, Margaret (Snyder) July 18, 1860--? (nd wife of > Adam > > >F.) > > >THOMPSON, James H May 18, 1839--Feb 27, 1922 > > (son > > >of J & E.H.) > > >THOMPSON, Harriet Jane (DUTTON) Nov 10, 1842--July 8, 1909 (wife of > > James > > >H) > > >THOMPSON, Ella A. Oct 22, 1866--Apr 15, > 1887 > > >(dau of J.H. & H. J.) > > >THOMPSON, Paul B Aug 31, 1879--Dec 24, > 1879 > > ? > > >THOMPSON, Uda M. Feb 11, 1881--April 13, > 1915 > > >? > > >I don't know if these were listed in "High on a Windy Hill" by Catherine > S. > > >McConnell in 1962 or not. > > >The only reason I have an interest in John Thompson is because of the > > >Fudge-Miller line. > > >Happy Hunting, > > >Mickey > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Gay and Lyndon Nix" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:14 PM > > >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > > > > > > > > >> Mickey, > > >> John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. > > >> I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and > > >> Elizabeth Fudge. > > >> I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and > > >Polly > > >> Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor > tract > > >of > > >> Augusta Co, Va. > > >> > > >> What do you know of Alexander Thompson? > > >> This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. > > >> Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? > > >> > > >> Gay Nix > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? > > >> >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in > > >Alexander > > >> Thompson line? > > >> >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. > All > > >of > > >> Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. > > >> > > > >> >Mickey > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >> >**************************************************************** > > >> >List Administrator > > >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >> >**************************************************************** > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >> **************************************************************** > > >> List Administrator > > >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >> **************************************************************** > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >**************************************************************** > > >List Administrator > > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >