Okay - this might be a 'duh' for everyone else but I just found a cool map that has helped me put all of these counties together. I've seen the countie formation site (love it!) but this one gives an idea of mountains, and water ways too. Granted it's a Civil War map, so off from the 1700s that I'm trying to figure out - but cool none the less. And now I need to join the Warren County list, lol. Enjoy! - www.civilwartraveler.com/about/maps/ValleyMap.pdf Julie in CA --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.