Any Matheny's marrying a Devericks? John Matheny married Pleasie Devericks? Norma Lewis wrote: > Monica: Beard is an old Augusta name, you will find it in Chalkleys and in the > Library of VA digital records. You can find URL's for both sites on the > USGenWeb Augusta County site. McCulloch is McCullough and McCauley - all > interchangeable. You should research all those names to see if they connect. > Miller is so vast I find it almost impossible to research. There are PA/German > Muellers, English and Scotch-Irish Millers from several sources and they all > meld in the Valley of VA - so confusing. > > I am interested in Matheny in VA and Matney and Mattingly. Daniel Mathena came > to America from England, landed in MD but was chased out because of his > religion (Catholic I think) to Fauquier (?) County VA circa 1680's. The > Mattinglys came to MD in 1664 and the Matneys spin off that family. All the > US Matheny-Metheny families are descended from Daniel. This family has been > traced back to 900 France and is a very interesting family. I'm involved with > an English researcher trying to prove the Mattingly-Matney families are > descended from them. Variations are de Matteneye, de Matenly, etc. I have a > good friend who descends from the WV Mathenys and I think these Augusta County > and Rockingham County Mathenys are related to them. I just noticed in my index > that one of them married a Coiner, so I can claim both Matneys and Mathenys > now, didn't know that before. > > I consider any Coiner-Coyner-Koiner-Kyner and Keinath blood relations as I > must have a tiny drop of Michael Keinadt's blood left in me somewhere. I > wonder what a geneticist would say about that? > Norma > > Monica Berry wrote: > > > > Rockbridge Co Va and Augusta Co, Va families I am researching > > include: > > Barker, Beard, Berry, Conner, Fanning, Little, McCulloch, Miller > > (two lines), Peters, Rough or Rowe, Taylor, Thompson > > Other surnames I find (not bloodlines) include:Lunsford, Matheny, > > Moore Toman > > It is alittle confusing sometimes as some children are indicated > > to have been born in Augusta Co, but I find the family in the > > Rockbridge Census. > > If anyone else is looking for these lines, please let me know. > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > The Augusta County mailing list page has instructions on how to > > subscribe and unsubscribe from the list > > Visit it at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapulask/augustaquery/augustalist.htm > > *************************************************************** > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > The Augusta County IRC channel is open Fridays at 7:00 PM EST > to find out more, see the IRC page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapulask/augustaquery/augustairc.htm > ***************************************************************

Monica Berry: Not sure how I missed your inquiry, but I am also researching the Barker line in Augusta County. I do not have your e-mail address. Thought maybe we could share stories. Lauri

Tracey: We have discussed this on this list in the past few months. Go to www.rootsweb.com and click on the archives, there is a good searcher there where you can find this info. Mossy Creek Academy was at Mossy Creek, near Mt. Salon, on the Augusta/Rockingham border. Good Luck. Norma TH3978@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone know of a source which gives a little history of this school? I > think one of my relatives may have taught there before and after the Civil War > but I don't know where to go to prove it. > >

I don't know if Augusta County readers are aware of it yet, but the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) library catalog is now on line at: http://dar.library.net/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carmen J. Finley finleyc@sonoma.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Does anyone know of a source which gives a little history of this school? I think one of my relatives may have taught there before and after the Civil War but I don't know where to go to prove it. Sincerely Tracy Hunter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My HUNTER family http://members.aol.com/th3978/index.html In Augusta Co., Va - HUNTER, GOOD, BOYERS, LANDES, LOWMAN, BAKER, RIMEL In Rockingham Co., Va - HUNTER, SITES, SMITH, BOWMAN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am seeking information that would lead to the origins of George Elliott (my gggg grandfather) who arrived in Rowan County, NC (now Mecklenburg) around 1750. Based on circumstantial data, I believe he may have been related to Elliotts who arrived and may have remained in the Shennandoah Valley area sometime between 1740-50. His wife was Jane ?. I would value hearing from anyone who had a stray George Elliott who disappeared along the Wagon Trail around that time. He established a large and proud family down in Mecklenburg County. Jim Elliott msajde@inet.net

Augusta County readers may be interested in this progress report from RootsWeb Review. The Augusta VAGenWeb page carries a link to this project. Carmen Finley -------------------------- THE IMMIGRANT SHIP TRANSCRIBERS GUILD (ISTG) IS GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS. When the guild began its work on September 16, 1998, there were 50 volunteers within a week. Now nearly 500 volunteers are transcribing ship passenger lists that will be posted on the ISTG Web site. The guild accepts new volunteers on a quarterly basis. The next group will be accepted in April, 1999, so if you are interested in joining at that time, please read the FAQ under Guild Information. More than 300 passenger lists are now posted at the Web site and new passenger lists are posted weekly. <http://istg.rootsweb.com Written by <author's name, e-mail address, and URL, if given> Previously published by RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative, RootsWeb Review, Vol. 2, No. 5, 3 February 1999. You may visit RootsWeb's main Web page at <http://www.rootsweb.com>.

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John, I am a direct descendant of the Bane's. I would like to exchange more info on the branch that you are working on. My line comes through Mont. Co. Thanks! Diana Kinzer Heath ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ USGenWeb County Coordinator for: Roanoke Co., Roanoke City & Salem City, VA at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~varoanok/index.html Wood Co., WV at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvwood/indexa.htm Mason Co., WV at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvmason/ Rootsweb Mail List Owner/Admin for: VAROANOK-L@Rootsweb.com WVWOOD-L@Rootsweb.com KINZER-L@Rootsweb.com GRALEY-L@Rootsweb.com MILLER-L@Rootsweb.com SCHMIDT-L@Rootsweb.com BERNHARD-L@Rootsweb.com KARP-L@Rootsweb.com GenConnect Surname Boards Admin. for: KINZER, CORNS & MILLER. MY HOME PAGE: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/e/a/Diana-K-Heath/ ***Proud Rootsweb Sponsor*** -----Original Message----- From: John Cawley <jcaawley@email.com> To: VAAUGUST-L@rootsweb.com <VAAUGUST-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 12:59 AM Subject: [VAAUGUST-L] Annie C Irvine Bane >I have been trying to research Annie C Bane (b:1871, Rockbridge Co; >d:1924.04) that wed Andrew Tolley Knick, but have been quite >unsuccessful locating her parents until a clue I received recently. A >friend indicated that she was actually born Annie C Irvine and wed ??? >Bane, having two children (Will and Mary), after which she wed Andy >Knick and had two children (Emma Rachel and Vernie Lee). Can anyone >confirm this and/or have any further information on Annie's parents. >Thanks very much in advance to anyone that can help with this. > >-- John > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >The Augusta County mailing list page has instructions on how to > subscribe and unsubscribe from the list > Visit it at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapulask/augustaquery/augustalist.htm >*************************************************************** >

Harry and anyone else concerned: I got some messages mixed up and and apparently sent one to the wrong person. I therefore, apologize to all and beg your forgiveness for my wrong doings.. G. Lee

I have been trying to research Annie C Bane (b:1871, Rockbridge Co; d:1924.04) that wed Andrew Tolley Knick, but have been quite unsuccessful locating her parents until a clue I received recently. A friend indicated that she was actually born Annie C Irvine and wed ??? Bane, having two children (Will and Mary), after which she wed Andy Knick and had two children (Emma Rachel and Vernie Lee). Can anyone confirm this and/or have any further information on Annie's parents. Thanks very much in advance to anyone that can help with this. -- John

To All: I am sorry to have taken up the space on this list discussing wine and water..and to Harry I apologize if I have upset you, which it appears I have, however there are times when one must apply simple logic to information, no matter how well you can backup your presentation.. Simple logic tells me that people have always drank water and will continue to do so as long as it is available..You believe what you like and I will do the same...LAST WORD... G. Lee Hearl Abingdon, Va....

Norma Lewis wrote: This has been so interesting, Lee and Harry: If these early colonists had only moved further inland, they may have had a more successful settlement and saved many of their settlers. Their problem seemed to be one of ignorance and lack of medical knowledge, . . . Hi to G.Lee Hearl, Norma, Gene and others; I hope the following will answer your queries and statements and will lead to further research and learning for us all. G.Lee, you are right, the colonists were dumb for the most part. As the record shows ". . . The idle, lazy, and factious behavior of early Virginians was, in part, the result of a steady summer diet of salt water." The Labor Problem at Jamestown, 1607-1618, American Historical Review, LXXVI, 1971. Of the first group of 104 to come to Virginia, there were seven on the Council, 48 Gentlemen, six carpenters, 43 laborers and sailors made up the rest. "August 7, 1610, report by Sir Thomas Dale that the 300 disorderly persons he took with him to Virginia are mutinous and unchristian and are so disordered that only 60 of them are employable." The Complete Book of Emigrants 1607-1660, Peter Wilson Coldham, 1987. "April 3, 1617, Stephen Rogers, convicted of a killing and reprieved, ordered to be sent to Virginia at the instance of Sir Thomas Smith because he is a carpenter. ibid. Gene, yes to the Potomac River & other waterways, however, no settlers were living there in 1607-1609, the deaths due to salt & contaminated water occurred early before the settlers moved out of the James River area, into the beautiful Vir. countryside. "The first two summers in Vir. were disastrous; the third offered the first glimmer of hope. As of Oct. 1608, 244 colonists had come to Jamestown and 144 of them had subsequently died." Irene W.D. Hecht, The Virginia Colony, 1607-1640, A Study in Frontier Growth, Ph.D. diss., U. of Washington, 1969. Also Gene, "This close relationship between environment, disease, & mortality in 1607 Jamestown may be stated more generally for all Chesapeake estuaries." George H. Lauff, ed., Estuaries, American Association for the Advancement of Science, Washington, D.C., 1967. Norma, at first, it was not the policy of the London Company to spread out, they were interested in commercial profitability. Death and Indian's hindered outward movement for a few years. In the first group there was William Wilkinson, and Thomas Wotton, who were surgeon's, and Robert Hunt, a priest of the Church of England. Those three should have had a little medical knowledge. It was in the 1617-1619 period that movement increased, ". . . which did much to populate the James River basin as far as the falls." Conway Whittle Sams, The Conquest of Virginia, 4 Vols., 1916. My interest in this period is one of my ancestors, Capt. Peter Wynne came to Jamestown in 1608. All the listed surnames are very interesting of those who came first. Three books of great help: 'INSIDE THE GREAT HOUSE' planter family life in the 18th century Chesapeake society, by Daniel Blake Smith, Cornell University Press. 'HOW JUSTICE GREW' Vir. Counties: An Abstract of Their Formation, Martha W. Hiden, 1957. And,'THE CHESAPEAKE in the SEVENTEENTH CENTURY', by Thad W. Tate & David L. Ammerman, The University of North Carolina Press. History and Genealogy, makes life interesting. Harry

An Addition: *Per Nicholas Co. notes - (Forgot to put this) Robert came from Augusta Co. to Kanawha Co., VA(WV). para. 2. *Per Fellow Researcher - Sarah"Sally" Wilson was born 1782 in what is now Pendleton Co., WV, which at that time was in Augusta Co., VA. para. 3. Does anyone have any information or connection with this couple? I am told by a fellow researcher that Robert and Susan are my Sarah"Sally" Wilson's parents. I have no documentation or source info to confirm this. If anyone can help please contact me. This is all I know: Robert Wilson came into Kanawha Co., VA(WV)* about 1800 a few years later he died and left his wife with a large family of girls and one son. This I found in Nicholas Co. VA(WV) notes. The section of Kanawha Co. they lived in later became Nicholas Co. Sarah"Sally" Wilson b. Ca. 1782* married David Lilly, December 2, 1806 in Kanawha Co., VA(WV). If anyone can give me any positive feedback I would be grateful. Does anyone know the siblings of Sarah? Does anyone know of a will left by Robert Wilson or his wife Susan? Anything about this family and their ancestry would be a plus! Many Thanks..... Until Later...... Cindy Eagle Pettey

To all: Sometime ago I posted a message stating that Judge Henderson bought a great portion of Ky. for "a bunch of junk"..Someone wanted to know more about the junk. I made that statement based on a book, "The Wataugans" by Max Dixon..He gives several sources for his information. Dixon states that the purchase was made for 10,000 pounds English money. 2,000 pounds in cash, 8,000 pounds in "goods". G. Lee Hearl....

I found "the Secret Diary of William Byrd" most interesting reading and I will probably get it out of the library again and pay more attention to descriptions of everyday life in the Va. Colony..I hope others will read it.. Norma, you are correct in saying, "If they had settled further inland, they would have found better living conditions and better water." However, the area from Chespeake Bay along both sides of James river is very low and much swampland..also, they were very dependent upon the ships from Europe for their supplies for several years and were probably reluctant to go inland at first.. G. Lee.....

Harry Montgomery wrote: This has been so interesting, Lee and Harry: If these early colonists had only moved further inland, they may have had a more successful settlement and saved many of their settlers. Their problem seemed to be one of ignorance and lack of medical knowledge, which is understandable for those times. I wonder if the Indians kept them confined to the coast. Have you read anything about that, Harry? I'm afraid that I, like many others, use my research time for topics of interest and help for my own families and their times. I have done a lot of medieval research but havn't covered this area and this subject. You have shown us, once again, there is more to genealogical research than names and dates. If you don't understand the times and their problems, how can you understand the people? Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink - seems that comes from the middle of the sea, but seems to apply here. I can understand how they would be afraid to drink the water. Even their wells were salted? Very interesting! Norma > 1607, Lyon Gardiner Taylor,ed., Narratives of Early Virginia, > 1606-1625. > II-". . .our men were destroyed with cruell diseases, as Swellings, > Flixes, Burning Fevers, . . ." p.97, Travels & Works of Capt. John > Smith, President of Virginia and Admiral of New England, 1580-1631, > Edward Arber & A.G.Bradley, eds. Edinburgh, 1910. > III-Wyndham B.Blanton, "Epidemics, Real & Imaginary, and Other Factors > Influencing Seventeenth Century Virginia Population," Bulletin of the > History of Medicine, XXXI, 1957. > IV-Edward C.Raney, "Freshwater Fishes," in The James River Basin, > Past, Present, & Future, Virginia Academy of Science, James River > Project Committee, Richmond, Va., 1950. > V-". . . actual causes of death-typhoid, dysentery, & perhaps salt > poisoning." John Duffy, Epidemics in Colonial America, Baton > Rouge,La., 1953. > VI-"Our drinke [was] cold water taken out of the River, which was at a > floud verie salt, at low tide full of slime & fieth, which was the > destruction of many of our men." Observation of Master George Percy, > Narratives of Early Vir. 1606-1625. > VII-" . . . The ebb tide, though less saline, was very turbid, > organically polluted, and deadly. The trapped pathogeny of typhoid & > dysentery, thus floated back and forth past Jamestown with the summer > tide. The danger from contaminated water faded in Sept. River > discharge increased, pushing the salt incursion & its deadly > associated downstream toward Hog Point." The First English Towns of > North America, Geographical Review, LXVII, Carville Earle. > VIII-" . . . the annual summer invasion of saltwater up the James > River that contaminated the Jamestown water supply." Environment, > Disease, and Mortality in Early Virginia. Carville V.Earle. p.104. > IX-" . . . Highest discharge customarily comes in the spring, and > pushes the saltwater to its seaward maximum; on the James the retreat > is to Hog Point . . ." ibid., p.105. > For further reading and research on the subject of the James River > salt and death happening at early Jamestown, the following material > and authors may be of worth to all Augusta 'listers': Philip > L.Barbour, 'The Three Worlds of Capt. John Smith, Boston, 1964. > Richard L.Morton, 'Colonial Virginia: The Tidewater Period, 1607-1710, > Chapel Hill, N.C., 1960. Darrett B, and Anita Ratman, 'Of Agues & > Fevers: Malaria in the Early Chesapeake,' WMQ, 3rd Ser. XXXIII, 1976. > The Chesapeake in the Seventeenth Century, eds Thad W. Tate & David > L.Ammerman, 1979. Maynard M.Nickols, 'Sediments of the James River > Estuary, Virginia Geological Society of America, 1972. > > I stand by my early outline. > Harry.

Harry, You have given enough references to satisfy me..I have only one thing to say, "If those early colonists drank from the James river rather than from the springs in that area, they were really DUMB!!" G. Lee.......

I would love to find other researchers who are following these names: COUTS, STARK, WRIGHT, CALDWELL, GORDON, MASON, VAUGHN, BIRD/BYRD, COLLINS, CHOATES, Lefevers, Derossett, Bowers, Pearson, Askew, Hollenbeck, Meguiar, Fleener, Dyres, Wrights, Owens, Draughons, Appleton, Gwaltney, Reed, Butcher, Grim, Lockwood, Siddon, Moores, Andersons, Chriswell, Price, Sevrein (Levin), Minton, Hill, Strodes, Moon, Freeman, and Ruffins.

The following query was posted to the Augusta County Query Page on Sun Jan 31 07:22:01 1999 PLEASE ADRRESS YOUR REPLY TO: joeandann3@aol.com (Joe Goodpasture) Seeking information on Jacob GOODPASTURE who lived on Lewis Creek in Brock's Gap section of Augusta (now Rockbridge) county in 1753. Name originally may have been Vollenweider or Fulweider. Had son, Abraham Goodpasture, from whom I am descended. May have had son, Solomon, who spelled name Goodpaster. Jacob's wife's name may have been Anne. PLEASE ADRRESS YOUR REPLY TO: joeandann3@aol.com (Joe Goodpasture)