Thanks Norma, Now to try and prove this is my John Keener. I had the wife as Mary Harris but no dates or locations. And to JOHN, I haven't heard of that book. Does it include an Ulrich Keener/Keiner/various spellings? If it does we may have the right family. You are right about one thing, the Keener's named all their children from the same list of names almost. One of the original immigrants Ulrich Keener did settle in Lancaster County, PA. before moving to Virginia. The other Adam Keener stayed in the Lancaster and York areas of PA I appreciate the information from both of you. Lynda At 08:28 PM 5/8/2004, you wrote: >Hello: > >I have the Kinnear Family Genelaogy by Emma Siggins White. She shows >McCune's in Youngsville, PA and they married into the Kinnear family >there. However, your Elizabeth is not in the index. Too many John >Kinnears in the index to isolate on your John. >Might be a connection for you - if your family moved to PA in the early >1800's. > >John, Columbus, OH > > > >At 07:52 PM 5/8/2004, you wrote: >>In a message dated 5/8/2004 10:20:56 AM US Eastern Standard Time, >>[email protected] writes: >>In reviewing my Aunt's research papers, I found a listing for my 4th Great >>Grandparents that I need >>to get verified. Is there a listing, book or CD that would contain the >>following data: >> >>John (Johann) Keener m. Elizabeth McCure/McCue 27 Aug 1793 at Augusta >>County, Virginia >> >>John's father, Ulrich Keener, is on the 1790 tax list for Shenadoah, >>Virginia. >> >>My Thanks for any help on this. >>Lynda >>Lynda in Augusta County Marriages 1748-1850 by John Vogt & T Wm Kethley, jr >>pg 339 >> >>Elizabeth McCune & John Kinnear 16 Aug, 1793; Ministers Return spells name as >>KEANER; d/o John; bond John McCune ; min - John McCue 27 Aug 1793 >> >>Hope this helps >> >>Norma Ooley Herman >> >> >>==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >>**************************************************************** >>List Administrator >>Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >>**************************************************************** > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

I have Elizabeth McCune, my 1st cousin 4 times removed, married to John Kinnear 8/16/1793. However, I have nothing on their births, deaths or children. I have lots of data on the McCunes but nothing on John's family. I would very much like to exchange information with anyone who can fill in my blanks. George Henry John Robert Gray wrote: > Hello: > > I have the Kinnear Family Genelaogy by Emma Siggins White. She shows > McCune's in Youngsville, PA and they married into the Kinnear family > there. However, your Elizabeth is not in the index. Too many John > Kinnears in the index to isolate on your John. > Might be a connection for you - if your family moved to PA in the > early 1800's. > > John, Columbus, OH > > > > At 07:52 PM 5/8/2004, you wrote: > >> In a message dated 5/8/2004 10:20:56 AM US Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> In reviewing my Aunt's research papers, I found a listing for my 4th >> Great >> Grandparents that I need >> to get verified. Is there a listing, book or CD that would contain the >> following data: >> >> John (Johann) Keener m. Elizabeth McCure/McCue 27 Aug 1793 at Augusta >> County, Virginia >> >> John's father, Ulrich Keener, is on the 1790 tax list for Shenadoah, >> Virginia. >> >> My Thanks for any help on this. >> Lynda >> Lynda in Augusta County Marriages 1748-1850 by John Vogt & T Wm >> Kethley, jr >> pg 339 >> >> Elizabeth McCune & John Kinnear 16 Aug, 1793; Ministers Return spells >> name as >> KEANER; d/o John; bond John McCune ; min - John McCue 27 Aug 1793 >> >> Hope this helps >> >> Norma Ooley Herman >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> **************************************************************** >> List Administrator >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> **************************************************************** > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

Hello: I have the Kinnear Family Genelaogy by Emma Siggins White. She shows McCune's in Youngsville, PA and they married into the Kinnear family there. However, your Elizabeth is not in the index. Too many John Kinnears in the index to isolate on your John. Might be a connection for you - if your family moved to PA in the early 1800's. John, Columbus, OH At 07:52 PM 5/8/2004, you wrote: >In a message dated 5/8/2004 10:20:56 AM US Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: >In reviewing my Aunt's research papers, I found a listing for my 4th Great >Grandparents that I need >to get verified. Is there a listing, book or CD that would contain the >following data: > >John (Johann) Keener m. Elizabeth McCure/McCue 27 Aug 1793 at Augusta >County, Virginia > >John's father, Ulrich Keener, is on the 1790 tax list for Shenadoah, Virginia. > >My Thanks for any help on this. >Lynda >Lynda in Augusta County Marriages 1748-1850 by John Vogt & T Wm Kethley, jr >pg 339 > >Elizabeth McCune & John Kinnear 16 Aug, 1793; Ministers Return spells name as >KEANER; d/o John; bond John McCune ; min - John McCue 27 Aug 1793 > >Hope this helps > >Norma Ooley Herman > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

In a message dated 5/8/2004 10:20:56 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: In reviewing my Aunt's research papers, I found a listing for my 4th Great Grandparents that I need to get verified. Is there a listing, book or CD that would contain the following data: John (Johann) Keener m. Elizabeth McCure/McCue 27 Aug 1793 at Augusta County, Virginia John's father, Ulrich Keener, is on the 1790 tax list for Shenadoah, Virginia. My Thanks for any help on this. Lynda Lynda in Augusta County Marriages 1748-1850 by John Vogt & T Wm Kethley, jr pg 339 Elizabeth McCune & John Kinnear 16 Aug, 1793; Ministers Return spells name as KEANER; d/o John; bond John McCune ; min - John McCue 27 Aug 1793 Hope this helps Norma Ooley Herman

Thank you, yes he is...now I have more family to include. Deborah Ray Piper Spencer Co., IN [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > Deborah, > Is your John PATTON the son of Henry PATTON, Jr. and Sarah LYNN? If so, he > is the brother to James PATTON 1692. > Velma > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

Deborah, Is your John PATTON the son of Henry PATTON, Jr. and Sarah LYNN? If so, he is the brother to James PATTON 1692. Velma

does anybody have the list of passengers on the Ship Wapole in 1738 that is mentioned in that web page. reportedly Robert Gwin my 6Ggrandfather was on that ship, he later buys land in Calfpasture from James Patton thanks George Young

In reviewing my Aunt's research papers, I found a listing for my 4th Great Grandparents that I need to get verified. Is there a listing, book or CD that would contain the following data: John (Johann) Keener m. Elizabeth McCure/McCue 27 Aug 1793 at Augusta County, Virginia John's father, Ulrich Keener, is on the 1790 tax list for Shenadoah, Virginia. My Thanks for any help on this. Lynda http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lynda77/index.html ELLIS KEENER CONNECTIONS - GENEALOGY SITE __________________________________________________________________ This email checked by Norton's Antivirus newest definitions before it was sent.

Was Margaret Patton who married Wm Lynn (Sarah's brother) Henry's 1st cousin? Their dau. Margaret Lynn married John Lewis (i.e. Patton & Lewis land grants). In one report I have read that the Lynn family had connections to the governor who was able to get John Lewis out of hot water after he killed his landlord in Ireland. Does anyone know what the connection was? It might be of interest to know that John Lewis' mother Mary Calhourn was the great aunt of Francis Calhoun who m Arch Hamilton. They moved to Augusta Co. and their descendents are well represented in the early days. Also, Henry & Sarah Lynn Patton's son Robert m Margaret Woods and died in Sudsbury, Chester Co. PA. in 1755. Was Margaret the niece of Michael Woods who lead a group from Lancastor Co. PA to Albemarle co. in the 1740's? Kincaids seem to be tied to these people in a minor way. There are Kincaids in each of the named areas that we haven't been able to tie together. I am hoping that by understanding this group I might find clues. Sue in Newport ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Ray Piper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 7:52 AM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > Hello, > > I am trying to find my brick on this line. Henry Patton m. Sarah Lynn, they were from Scotland, their son John married Agnes X in Augusta Co., VA 23 Mar 1754. Their issues were Agnes "Annie" and Isabel. Agnes married William Patterson. Thank you in advance for information. John Patton was in Rev. War and is a DAR line. > > Deborah Ray Piper > Spencer Co., IN > [email protected] > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

Hello, I came through John Patton and Agnes Snodgrass daughter Agnes"Annie" who married William Patterson and their daughter Nancy who married Esq.George Josiah Reeder in Wythe Co., VA in 1818. Do you have any information on this line? Thank you. Your James is the son or brother of Henry? Deborah Ray Piper Spencer Co., IN [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyndon and Gay Nix" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > Deborah, > I am a descendant of James Patton through his daughter Mary who md William > Thompson. > Which one do you descend from? > James Patton as far as I know and from Patricia Givens Johnson the writer of > many books as shown on the Patton page never owned any Ships. > He was a sea captain and worked for Walter Lutwidge. > If you are from Col. James Patton then you need the soft cover book about > William Thompson she wrote. > Another item that is not correct and many people take the source from The > Family Tree by Mary Preston Gray is James married Mary Borden, > James md Mary Osborne. > There is no marriage record found for James Patton. > He lived in Whitehaven where he was a employee for Lutwidge. > As you notice source says married about, meaning they didn't find a marriage > and guessing at the date. > William and Mary(Patton) Thompson had son Henry who named a son Osbourne. > Most of the other information is correct and I am very proud of being a > descendant of this man who helped build America. > I don't believe that Mary (Osborn) was born in Augusta Co, Va. > I haven't had a chance to go through all that was on that Patton page so > there may be some other corrections. > That is why we have to go over the research others have done to make sure we > get our family tree correct. > It is a good place to start and very helpful in ones research. > Get back with me on how do you connect to James Patton? > > Gay Nix > > > > > >Wow, thanks George this is my line... > > > >Deborah Ray Piper > >Spencer Co., IN > >[email protected] > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:45 PM > >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > > > > > >> have you seen this web page? > >> http://lady3248.tripod.com/jamespatton1692.htm > >> > >> this might get you some good info > >> > >> George young > >> > >> > >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> **************************************************************** > >> List Administrator > >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> **************************************************************** > >> > >> > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >**************************************************************** > >List Administrator > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

George, A good place to start looking is on the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild website at http://www.immigrantships.net/index.html This site has transcribed the passenger lists for immigrant ships and is searchable by year, ship name, passenger, port of departure, port of entry, etc. Give it a whirl in attempting to find your ancestor. My own ancestor immigrated to America in 1738, so I'm familiar with looking thru ship lists that arrived in that year as well. I don't remember seeing a listing for a "Wapole" and didn't find it when looking again this morning. But, hopefully, you'll have better luck. Michael Sellers ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > does anybody have the list of passengers on the Ship Wapole in 1738 that is > mentioned in that web page. > > reportedly Robert Gwin my 6Ggrandfather was on that ship, he later buys land > in Calfpasture from James Patton > > thanks > George Young > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

Deborah, I am a descendant of James Patton through his daughter Mary who md William Thompson. Which one do you descend from? James Patton as far as I know and from Patricia Givens Johnson the writer of many books as shown on the Patton page never owned any Ships. He was a sea captain and worked for Walter Lutwidge. If you are from Col. James Patton then you need the soft cover book about William Thompson she wrote. Another item that is not correct and many people take the source from The Family Tree by Mary Preston Gray is James married Mary Borden, James md Mary Osborne. There is no marriage record found for James Patton. He lived in Whitehaven where he was a employee for Lutwidge. As you notice source says married about, meaning they didn't find a marriage and guessing at the date. William and Mary(Patton) Thompson had son Henry who named a son Osbourne. Most of the other information is correct and I am very proud of being a descendant of this man who helped build America. I don't believe that Mary (Osborn) was born in Augusta Co, Va. I haven't had a chance to go through all that was on that Patton page so there may be some other corrections. That is why we have to go over the research others have done to make sure we get our family tree correct. It is a good place to start and very helpful in ones research. Get back with me on how do you connect to James Patton? Gay Nix >Wow, thanks George this is my line... > >Deborah Ray Piper >Spencer Co., IN >[email protected] >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:45 PM >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > > >> have you seen this web page? >> http://lady3248.tripod.com/jamespatton1692.htm >> >> this might get you some good info >> >> George young >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> **************************************************************** >> List Administrator >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> **************************************************************** >> >> > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** > > >

Thanks very much, George. That is very interesting! I appreciate your sharing it with us. Velma

Wow, thanks George this is my line... Deborah Ray Piper Spencer Co., IN [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > have you seen this web page? > http://lady3248.tripod.com/jamespatton1692.htm > > this might get you some good info > > George young > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

have you seen this web page? http://lady3248.tripod.com/jamespatton1692.htm this might get you some good info George young

Hello, I am trying to find my brick on this line. Henry Patton m. Sarah Lynn, they were from Scotland, their son John married Agnes X in Augusta Co., VA 23 Mar 1754. Their issues were Agnes "Annie" and Isabel. Agnes married William Patterson. Thank you in advance for information. John Patton was in Rev. War and is a DAR line. Deborah Ray Piper Spencer Co., IN [email protected]

I borrowed mine at the public library. Peggy

Hello Are any of these books on line? Thanks, Emma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Hanes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Indian Tribes That lived in and near Ausgusta Co. > I agree, I found information about some of my Callaway kin in " The > Frontiersman". > > Peggy Hanes > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

I would love to hear from anyone who is researching the Hoover, Smith or Hise families and especially those with ties to Pendleton & Highland Co. You may contact me directly ([email protected]) Karen Hoover

I agree, I found information about some of my Callaway kin in " The Frontiersman". Peggy Hanes